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Are there are any two characters, skyfather or below, who, as a team, can beat PC Validus in a slugfest?

PC Omega is probably above Skyfather....

despero and shaggy man?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
PC Omega is probably above Skyfather....
He is the personification of all hate

That by default makes him abstract

WWH and Thanos


wait you said below Skyfather, sry.

Yeah. Thanos is now abstract with his recent upgrade.

Originally posted by ares834
Yeah. Thanos is now abstract with his recent upgrade.

You forgot the Omniversal part

Thanos is an Omniversal Abstract, beyond beings like Galactus, Eternity or even LT.

PC Darkseid and the Infinity Man.

Indeed. Thanos can't die, therefore he wins.......everything..........somehow. He gets all the power of Death and that somehow makes him more powerful than death. Totally logical.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
WWH and Thanos


wait you said below Skyfather, sry.

I said Skyfather or below, and this team would still lose.

Originally posted by Simbon
I said Skyfather or below, and this team would still lose.
That team wouldnt lose. They couldnt even wake validus from his nap so there is no fight

Originally posted by Simbon
I said Skyfather or below, and this team would still lose.



Okok, two Skyfathers.

Rune King Thor and Superman 1 Million (under the Super Sun)

No one below Skyfather level is beating pre-crisis Validus in a slugfest... And even Skyfathers beating him in that manner are questionable. For instance, I don't see Odin beating Val in a purely H2H battle - he (Val) was several times more powerful than pre-crisis Superboy (the kid who casually pulled dozens of planets behind him.)

Originally posted by Simbon
I said Skyfather or below, and this team would still lose.

Sorry no. Thanos is now powerful enough to defeat Galactus.

Originally posted by ares834
Sorry no. Thanos is now powerful enough to defeat Pre-ret beyonder.
Fixed for accuracy

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Fixed for accuracy