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Who wins?

Both get to amp their physical stats in this fight.

Always seen Zeus as more of a brawler I'll take him

Stalemate

I'll back the young ginger skyfather.

I think Zeus beats him handily. Also Zeus no longer ages, while old man Odin is still aging even if it's very slowly. All hell I think Zeus walks the dog with him.

Where is rage?

is this bait then ?

Naah, I don't bait. Honestly... Odin is a beast physically and power output wise. I just wanted to know how the fight would go and Rage is a good person to get an argument for Odin.

All out 5/10IMHO
Weapons Odin 6/10
H2H Zeus 6/10

So can anyone tell me why exactly they're giving Zeus the win? Because he beat the shit out of the Hulk? We can play the feat game but not long into the discussion people will be b*tching about Odin having more appearances etc. I'd bet good money on one or more double standards being employed.

The gap is closer now than it probably ever was but Odin is on an entirely different level overall. I can accept Zeus rivaling the everyday Odin -his weakest form- but that's where the comparison ends.

Assuming they're equals, Odin wins on superior fighting skill if nothing else.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So can anyone tell me why exactly they're giving Zeus the win? Because he beat the shit out of the Hulk? We can play the feat game but not long into the discussion people will be b*tching about Odin having more appearances etc.

The gap is closer now than it probably ever was but Odin is on an entirely different level overall. I can accept Zeus rivaling the everyday Odin -his weakest form- but that's where the comparison ends.

I think because he is greek. Wrestling should be more common and in style for him then for Odin. While Odin as a norse/viking God is more of an weapon expert to me. The same reason why I would give Hercules the slight majority in h2h against Thor but give Thor the win in a weapon fight, not to mention the vast majority in an all out fight.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I think because he is greek. Wrestling should be more common and in style for him then for Odin. While Odin as a norse/viking God is more of an weapon expert to me. The same reason why I would give Hercules the slight majority in h2h against Thor but give Thor the win in a weapon fight, not to mention the vast majority in an all out fight.

So literally zero evidence.

And no, Hercules wouldn't get the majority over Thor in hand to hand. You think Hercules is slightly more skilled because of one showing? Okay, Thor's stat advantages trump the skill advantage.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So literally zero evidence.

And no, Hercules wouldn't get the majority over Thor in hand to hand. You think Hercules is slightly more skilled because of one showing? Okay, Thor's stat advantages trump the skill advantage.

You had a bad day, eh Rage?

Nah, the leniency given to the Olympians in threads -in particular when involving Asgardians- just baffles me.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So can anyone tell me why exactly they're giving Zeus the win? Because he beat the shit out of the Hulk? We can play the feat game but not long into the discussion people will be b*tching about Odin having more appearances etc. I'd bet good money on one or more double standards being employed.

The gap is closer now than it probably ever was but Odin is on an entirely different level overall. I can accept Zeus rivaling the everyday Odin -his weakest form- but that's where the comparison ends.

Assuming they're equals, Odin wins on superior fighting skill if nothing else.

Now THIS is what I was expecting.

So Rage... what feats does Odin have with his fist?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So literally zero evidence.

And no, Hercules wouldn't get the majority over Thor in hand to hand. You think Hercules is slightly more skilled because of one showing? Okay, Thor's stat advantages trump the skill advantage.

You said stat advantages as in plural. Do tell, what stat advantages does Thor have over Hercules?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
All out Odin 6/10
Weapons Odin 6/10
H2H Zeus 6/10
Fixed.

Originally posted by carver9
Now THIS is what I was expecting.

So Rage... what feats does Odin have with his fist?

How much power does Odin get access to? The entire Odin Force? People usually limit Odin in threads with Zeus. That should in itself tell you how they match up but whatever.

The weakest being Odin has struck is probably Thor. Of course, I could use Odin one shotting Surfer and Drax as the All Father can channel his energy in anyway he sees fit so it's all relative. I don't want to use feats that are too high up there. Simply no selling a punch from Thanos is a greater show of strength and durability than anything Zeus has done.

Originally posted by h1a8
You said stat advantages as in plural. Do tell, what stat advantages does Thor have over Hercules?

Strength and durability. Probably speed and stamina as well but those would be hard to prove.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So literally zero evidence.

And no, Hercules wouldn't get the majority over Thor in hand to hand. You think Hercules is slightly more skilled because of one showing? Okay, Thor's stat advantages trump the skill advantage.

Except we have it on file that the Lion of Olympus beat the mighty Thor. It's PROOF ! biscuits

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/hercvthor1.jpg/
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Lol, that was an awesome battle. Hercules is one dirty fighter though. Takes the below the belt tactic to an entirely new level.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, that was an awesome battle. Hercules is one dirty fighter though. Takes the below the belt tactic to an entirely new level.

Clearly

In earnest, all I've seen Herc do in battles is punch things. He even admits NUMEROUS times during his series and mini series that he only knows how to punch things. So I'm not sure where people get this image of an awesome pankration warrior from. Hell, they even made fun of his olympic performances in his mini:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/olympic1v.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/olympic2.jpg/

I mean I absolutely LOVE the guy, but the only way he's winning a H2H with Thor is either bloodlusted, or with some EXTREMELY cheap shots that Thor for some reason can't see coming (even though he'd totally expect it from him )

Back to the actual topic, Zeus doesn't fight. Zeus either uses his thunderbolt or runs and pretends to be a goat (true story). His recent portrayal vs. the Hulk doesn't change that. The guy has some awesome thunderbolt feats (the best being the chaos king one vs. Galactus), but that's about it. Oh, what, that he managed to raise a mountain and drop it on Typhon? That's a h2h feat? Rly? Please.

People think Hercules would beat Thor in hand to hand because of Blood Oath. It was an asinine and baseless showing based on pity. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Thor broke out of more holds and showed more maneuverability than Hercules in their other battles.

To be fair to the Olympian, he has shown notable wrestling skills.

You know it is one thing to say Odin vs Zeus in H2H no amping you can argue but amping Odin is way above Zeusas rage said. Heck the only time we seen Zeus amp his strength he dropped amountain on a titan. Odin on the other hand has also grown in size to amp his strength where is fought Doom with Galactus power and a cube and Shaking the mutilverse agaisnt Seth. Plus all the other big feats from the Odin power that we seen Zeus is still a few nothc below the All-father

stalemate.

Zeus wins.