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Shin Evil Ryu

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1. Seth

2. Sagat

3. Vega (SFIV)

4. Gouki

5. Gouken

6. Shin Vega

7. Gill

8. Shin Gouki

9. Oro

10. The Oni

11. Ryu

The Satsui No Hado restores Ryu after every bout. Can Evil Ryu destroy all hos foes?

Does Satsui No Hado translate to steroids in Japanese? I think that's the moral of the story that the games trying to preach.

Satsui No Hado (Steroids) is a cheap and easy way to get stronger faster, at the expense of losing humanity (and heart problems later on with steroid use) That's why Ryu is so against the idea of going down that road, because he know he'll reach his true potential (True health) by going all natural.

How else do you explain Ryu all of a sudden changing personality, getting horrible body acne, his voice dropping a couple of octaves and being in roid rage mode 24/7?

He stops at number 4.

Originally posted by TheGoldenSpy
Does Satsui No Hado translate to steroids in Japanese? I think that's the moral of the story that the games trying to preach.

Satsui No Hado (Steroids) is a cheap and easy way to get stronger faster, at the expense of losing humanity (and heart problems later on with steroid use) That's why Ryu is so against the idea of going down that road, because he know he'll reach his true potential (True health) by going all natural.

How else do you explain Ryu all of a sudden changing personality, getting horrible body acne, his voice dropping a couple of octaves and being in roid rage mode 24/7?

He stops at number 4.

SGS = Roid rage?

lol

Lol

The moral of the story is, not to let your desire to become the best consume you. Nothing to do with "cheapness".

It's Killing in the pursuit of power VS Fighting in the pursuit of power.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Lol

The moral of the story is, not to let your desire to become the best consume you. Nothing to do with "cheapness".

It's Killing in the pursuit of power VS Fighting in the pursuit of power.

Agree with you, Ryu must not become the victim of his own desire. Well anw isn't Evil Ryu= Ryu full power??

1. Seth = he'd destroy him

2. Sagat = sf1 ending

3. Vega (SFIV) = Vega would get pwned

4. Gouki = Gouki must unleash his full power in order to beat Evil Ryu

5. Gouken = dunno

6. Shin Vega = dunno i guess Evil Ryu

7. Gill = dunno

8. Shin Gouki = Shin gouki

9. Oro = Oro

10. The Oni = Oni> shin Akuma> Evil Ryu

11. Ryu = Ryu would get raped

You are aware that you got Ryu fightin the same dude 3 times in this thread, Frisky?

1. Seth /Win

2. Sagat /Win

3. Vega (SFIV) /Win

4. Gouki /Win

5. Gouken /?

6. Shin Vega /?

7. Gill /?

8. Shin Gouki /Win

"Shin" Evil Ryu has taken the SNH to a level beyond even Shin Akuma. The hole is his chest comes from his heart disapearing due to the fact that Ryu is now solely powered by Evil energy. Think of Akuma at the the end of the Ryu Final, just a shell with SNH in it. He is menat to be a step below Oni in SFIV.

9. Oro /?,

He's prolly gonna lose tho.

10. The Oni /Lose

11. Ryu /?

Prolly gonna lose, dependin on what Evil Ryu's actual plot involvment is, if there's any.

I can't see Evil Ryu win against Shin Akuma. the Evil Ryu in sf4 can't control his power while Akuma has full control of it and he's got more experience with SNH.
Against Ryu, if we take off the PIS, Ryu lose cuz Evil Ryu = untaped full power Ryu.

Originally posted by No End N Site


"Shin" Evil Ryu has taken the SNH to a level beyond even Shin Akuma. The hole is his chest comes from his heart disapearing due to the fact that Ryu is now solely powered by Evil energy. Think of Akuma at the the end of the Ryu Final, just a shell with SNH in it. He is menat to be a step below Oni in SFIV.


Where did you get this info from?

Originally posted by crimson_2010
I can't see Evil Ryu win against Shin Akuma. the Evil Ryu in sf4 can't control his power while Akuma has full control of it and he's got more experience with SNH.
Against Ryu, if we take off the PIS, Ryu lose cuz Evil Ryu = untaped full power Ryu. Ryu has more potential than Akuma though.

Haven't seen a Shin Evil Ryu though. And that looks like hair.

Edit. Oh you just meant he boss fight. Did it specify him being weaker than Oni? Thought they were presented as about the same.

1. Seth/Win

2. Sagat/Win

3. Vega (SFIV)/Win

4. Gouki/Tough fight, but I think Evil Ryu will win

5. Gouken/I dunno: Gouken may win 'cause the Power of Nothingness appears to be a good "anti SnH"

6. Shin Vega/I dunno... 50/50 here

7. Gill/I dunno, too... 60/40 for Gill, imho

8. Shin Gouki/About the same raw power, but Shin Gouki has more experience and can control it better, so Shin Gouki wins

9. Oro/I think that Oro would have to use both arms to win

10. The Oni/Oni wins

11. Ryu/Evil Ryu wins (if we're talking about SF3 Ryu, and Capcom states that SF3 Ryu can use the Power of Nothingness, it may be 50/50)

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Ryu has more potential than Akuma though.

Haven't seen a Shin Evil Ryu though. And that looks like hair.

Edit. Oh you just meant he boss fight. Did it specify him being weaker than Oni? Thought they were presented as about the same.

If you are talking about the OP's picture that is just DLC costume for E. Ryu. BTW how does Ryu have more potential than Akuma?

I believe he was stated to. He is supposed to eventually overcome him, and not only that he has more power "good" rather than "evil" by the time of SF3, which is something even Akuma couldn't accomplish.

I think too that Ryu has more potential than Gouki.

But Ryu cannot express all his potential power with the Satsui no Hado, simply 'cause that energy is not for him.

Gouki basically embodies the "philosophy" of the Satsui no Hado, and he's totally in control of it (for example, Gouki killed his master and "killed" his brother without any regret, but he's also able to hold back his power and spare an opponent).

Ryu instead is a good hearted man, so the cruelty, hate and rage instilled with the SnH is in contrast with his soul: that's why Evil Ryu is fare more "berserk" than Gouki.

Gouki embodies and controls the SnH, while Evil Ryu is "possessed" by the SnH.

It's similar to the Orochi Power in... Let's say Goentiz and Iori. Goenitz, a true Hakkeshu, manages to retain the mannerisms and civility of a priest, while in his Riot of Blood state Iori, a Sacred Treasure tainted with the energy of Orochi, is totally mad.

Dead on for the most part. But isn't Oni a version of Akuma who sacrificed his humanity for more power? Losing control of himself to some extent.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Ryu has more potential than Akuma though.

Haven't seen a Shin Evil Ryu though. And that looks like hair.

Edit. Oh you just meant he boss fight. Did it specify him being weaker than Oni? Thought they were presented as about the same.

More potential? Maybe but he can't use SNH properly cuz his mind is not suited for it.

Oni is simply the SNH spirit taking over Gouki's body. he has no human emotion anymore;

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Where did you get this info from?

http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/satui.html#character_btn

translated @

http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV_AE/Evil_Ryu

In the first Street Fighter tournament, Ryu felt a sudden urge to win against Sagat at all costs. That urge was the Satsui no Hado. Under its influence, Ryu rose up suddenly and gave Sagat his scar via a cheap-shot Metsu Shoryuken. Ever since meeting Akuma, the Satsui no Hado's evil intent has gotten stronger over the years within Ryu. The critical point has finally been reached, and Ryu has given in to the evil Hado. Where his heart once was is now a gaping hole of evil energy and emptiness. Evil Ryu seeks only one thing - worthy opponents for a fight to the death.

And Oni for good measure.

By mastering the Satsui no Hado, the man has become consumed by it. His mind is gone, and his body has been transformed into something that is incapable of being called human. What was once his code of fighting only the strong has become a mad desire to destroy everything in his path. The Supreme Master of the Fist, Akuma, is no more. There is only Oni, a demon in the truest sense of the word.

I also believe that Ryu has the potential to become stronger than Akuma. For one, he's the main character, 2 he's a good guy, and 3, I remember Meioh Hades sayin that Juni or Juli was scannin folks in the cast and it turned out Ryu had more potential than Akuma, Ryu had the highest in the game. This occured in SFA3 and it is indeed true, I checked.

Originally posted by No End N Site
http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/satui.html#character_btn

translated @

http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV_AE/Evil_Ryu

In the first Street Fighter tournament, Ryu felt a sudden urge to win against Sagat at all costs. That urge was the Satsui no Hado. Under its influence, Ryu rose up suddenly and gave Sagat his scar via a cheap-shot Metsu Shoryuken. Ever since meeting Akuma, the Satsui no Hado's evil intent has gotten stronger over the years within Ryu. The critical point has finally been reached, and Ryu has given in to the evil Hado. Where his heart once was is now a gaping hole of evil energy and emptiness. Evil Ryu seeks only one thing - worthy opponents for a fight to the death.

And Oni for good measure.

By mastering the Satsui no Hado, the man has become consumed by it. His mind is gone, and his body has been transformed into something that is incapable of being called human. What was once his code of fighting only the strong has become a mad desire to destroy everything in his path. The Supreme Master of the Fist, Akuma, is no more. There is only Oni, a demon in the truest sense of the word.





I should have made myself clear. I was talking about the whole Evil Ryu has taken the SNH level beyond even Shin Gouki.

"Shin" Evil Ryu has taken the SNH to a level beyond even Shin Akuma"

Originally posted by crimson_2010
More potential? Maybe but he can't use SNH properly cuz his mind is not suited for it.

Oni is simply the SNH spirit taking over Gouki's body. he has no human emotion anymore; Oh I know he turns away from the SNH and never tried to develop it.

Honestly he would be the most natural of all because he never even trained for it or tried to get it, he just had it in himOriginally posted by No End N Site
http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/satui.html#character_btn

translated @

http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV_AE/Evil_Ryu

In the first Street Fighter tournament, Ryu felt a sudden urge to win against Sagat at all costs. That urge was the Satsui no Hado. Under its influence, Ryu rose up suddenly and gave Sagat his scar via a cheap-shot Metsu Shoryuken. Ever since meeting Akuma, the Satsui no Hado's evil intent has gotten stronger over the years within Ryu. The critical point has finally been reached, and Ryu has given in to the evil Hado. Where his heart once was is now a gaping hole of evil energy and emptiness. Evil Ryu seeks only one thing - worthy opponents for a fight to the death.

And Oni for good measure.

By mastering the Satsui no Hado, the man has become consumed by it. His mind is gone, and his body has been transformed into something that is incapable of being called human. What was once his code of fighting only the strong has become a mad desire to destroy everything in his path. The Supreme Master of the Fist, Akuma, is no more. There is only Oni, a demon in the truest sense of the word.

I also believe that Ryu has the potential to become stronger than Akuma. For one, he's the main character, 2 he's a good guy, and 3, I remember Meioh Hades sayin that Juni or Juli was scannin folks in the cast and it turned out Ryu had more potential than Akuma, Ryu had the highest in the game. This occured in SFA3 and it is indeed true, I checked. Funny how he has mastered it and yet it consumed him, it seems like he would master it to keep from being consumed like Ryu. It makes sense in some ways though.

Originally posted by crimson_2010
More potential? Maybe but he can't use SNH properly cuz his mind is not suited for it.

That's the whole point. I think too that Ryu has more potential than Gouki, but Ryu cannot fully express his potential with the SnH.

Ryu can achieve his ultimate power using things like Gouken's Power of Nothingness and Oro's teachings (the Senjutsu master seems a "good powers" user).

About Oni... Gouki became the very embodiment of the SnH, wich totally transformed him in the body, mind and soul.

Speaking of the RYU Final manga, Ono and his team, once again, makes a reference to it.

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2011/07/05_onicostume.jpg

Gouki is revealed to be, like in the manga, a shell of a man and the very embodiment of the SnH, like Hades stated above. He is revealed to be made purely of Dark/Evil energy.

He's bringing sexy back.

Reminds me of Seth's alt. costume.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I should have made myself clear. I was talking about the whole Evil Ryu has taken the SNH level beyond even Shin Gouki.

"Shin" Evil Ryu has taken the SNH to a level beyond even Shin Akuma"

It doesn't say that, but I don't see Shin Akuma goin all "hollow" with a hole is his chest and then stated to be powered solely by the SNH. Also should be factored in the Shin Evil Ryu is the boss above Shin Akuma.Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Oh I know he turns away from the SNH and never tried to develop it.

Honestly he would be the most natural of all because he never even trained for it or tried to get it, he just had it in him Funny how he has mastered it and yet it consumed him, it seems like he would master it to keep from being consumed like Ryu. It makes sense in some ways though.

Thinkin the same thing but I guess by "consumed" they mean he literally became the SNH. The guy went totally Super Saiyin. We can see the Dragon Balls flyin around him in is intro. Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Speaking of the RYU Final manga, Ono and his team, once again, makes a reference to it.

Gouki is revealed to be, like in the manga, a shell of a man and the very embodiment of the SnH, like Hades stated above. He is revealed to be made purely of Dark/Evil energy.

Capcom really loves that manga, don't they.

Gouki, Goku.

Neat isn't it?

Especially when you notice this...
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8307/885223ujbbwrkl.jpg

What a coincidence... :P

He can also fly... someone is taking notes from someone...

He can also go Super 131

I just played SFA3 and saw Bison tank over a dozen nukes. What sort of durability would one make of that?

Is it canon?

And that would be fricking up there. Herald level durability if you ask me.

No, it wasn't canon. It happened in Charlie's ending. I still wouldn't put it past him, though. Since , in canon, he EASILY tanked One. It literally did nothing.

What Vega is capable of at max, with a body that would allow him to use the world supply of Psycho Power is unknown. CIS or plane arrogance also led to his defeat. There were many things he could have done to kill the entire cast, but for some reason, didn't do.

Yo, keep in mind that Bison tanked this and did that right after SFII, his weakest form.

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Shin Bison is like, crazy powerful, fa'real.

0:38-1:30

Why don't you post shit like that in his respect thread? Unless of course you already did and I missed it. In which case I apologize in advance. However if you haven't...uhuh

Originally posted by No End N Site
Yo, keep in mind that Bison tanked this and did that right after SFII, his weakest form.

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Shin Bison is like, crazy powerful, fa'real.

0:38-1:30

Awesome sig, dude. Best I've seen in a while!

I would also say, we really don't know how much stronger Shin Vega is over Sfii vega. All we can say is, he is FAR more powerful.