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who wins?

X-Man

Originally posted by Mindset
X-Man

Zoom.

Nate

how would nate deal with anti speed force or energy drain. eboard can also time travel at will or stop time. and move so fast part of the jla couldnt keep up.

Zoom

Originally posted by Prep-Man
how would nate deal with anti speed force or energy drain. eboard can also time travel at will or stop time. and move so fast part of the jla couldnt keep up. he timetravels and manipulates energy on his own. plus he can mindrape

Originally posted by 753
he timetravels and manipulates energy on his own. plus he can mindrape

And warp reality!!!!!

Originally posted by 753
he timetravels and manipulates energy on his own. plus he can mindrape

Pretty much what PZ is doing now. And with a higher power than Nate, Anti-Speed Force.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Pretty much what PZ is doing now. And with a higher power than Nate, Anti-Speed Force.

Higher power? Explain yourself.

AW SHIT SHOTS FIRED.

Anti-speed force is the opposite of the SF, which is a universal power. Currently, Eboard is unlocking all the limits within it. All the powers the Flash's haven't discovered.

In fights like this, the person with the faster reaction time wins. My money is on Zoom.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Anti-speed force is the opposite of the SF, which is a universal power. Currently, Eboard is unlocking all the limits within it. All the powers the Flash's haven't discovered. So what has he done?

Like I said, he currently stopped time, moved so fast the JLA couldn't even tag him, Since he's using the A SF, telepatch protection, casually travel through time, can deage people on the fly, etc... probably speed, energy drain as well.

Leme see energy drain.

Like i said, probably. A SF is just the opposite of SF. Eboard claimed that the Flash's weren't using it to its fullest capacity. Professor Zoom isn't even at his height, a couple more issues from now, he'll be at his fullest potential. Pretty crazy.

How would X-Man ever locate Zoom? He'd have to find him through the SF and the SF provides protection.

Originally posted by "Id"

We are just finding out, he can warp reality despite being detained, sedated, and drained via the Omega machine. Fairly Insane.


The energy the Omega machine drains is what makes the reality warp, Nate isn't doing it in spite of it IIRC.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
How would X-Man ever locate Zoom? He'd have to find him through the SF and the SF provides protection. Zoom cant hide from a potent precog.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I gonna wait on that.. It looks to me the machine was doing most of the work... meh.. We'll see.

I don't really need it, I have a scan where it states he is warping reality. That scan, and Dani comment serves to enforce my previous stance. Good stuff.

Originally posted by "Id"
Zoom cant hide from a potent precog.

He'll know he'll be coming but won't be able to stop him.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
He'll know he'll be coming but won't be able to stop him.

He can disarm Zooms intentions by stepping outside of time. Nathan can also cloak himself, making it impossible for Zoom to know where he is.

Oh snaps son, I dun pulled a reversal!

zoom can do the same and cloak his mind as well.

BTW, when are you going to finish the Fate respect thread?

Nate

Originally posted by Prep-Man
zoom can do the same and cloak his mind as well.

BTW, when are you going to finish the Fate respect thread?

I dont know, Dr. Fate is a really old hero with multiple incarnations, and like a billion appearances. And I thought Kyle was a tough project, Dr. Fate is a monstrous project. In fact I getting discouraged.

I've barely started. I got this much done within the Golden Age.
http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=713324

Seriously? I thought Fate would be a lot easier, but thought he had not as many appearances as Kyle.

Looking at the link now, nice.

Who do you think wins against GA Fate and X-Man?

Nice list, but I think Modern Fate would lose big time. I don't find him all that impressive. He went to another dimension to learn from somebody, so I hope he gets some impressive feats. On the other hand, Fate might not exist in the new DCU or relaunch.

Yeah last I checked Modern fate fails, almost had hard as modern Strange.

Naw they aint leaving out Fate. He holds a strong presence in the JSA. Guy can hope.

JSA are going to rest for a while. JSA won't be in the relaunch, either. Sorry, ID.

Balls. g_twitch

Dr. Fate actually might show up in JLA Dark. I can see him there.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I gonna wait on that.. It looks to me the machine was doing most of the work... meh.. We'll see.
Using his reality warping ability to power a machine.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/303b5c8i9194/prv9194_pg2.jpg

Nate wins this easily, though enjoys the slight challenge of it.

How does he win easily?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Grey

Despite all of Nate's other powers, i just base this on the fact that he has a precognitive borderlining clairovoyance. He could also choose to mess with Zoom's head like he did when he went up against the FF4.

i dont think hell be quick enough, plus the sf can act as protection agqinst psi abilities. guess we will agree to disagree.