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This thread will be dedicated to Sebastian Shaw.


http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/main1.jpg


It will be divided into a few main sections:
Section I: Biographies/Origin/Powerset
Section II: Absorption/Battle/Strength feats

Section I: Biographies/Origin/Powerset


Lets start things off with a few of Sebastian's Bios:

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Section I: Biographies/Origin/Powerset


Sebastian's origin (part I):

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_origin1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_origin2.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_origin3.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_origin4.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_origin5.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_origin6.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_origin7.jpg

Section I: Biographies/Origin/Powerset


Sebastian's origin (part II):

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Section II: Absorption/Battle/Strength feats


Physically dominates Colossus:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_colossus1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_colossus2.jpg

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And again:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_colossus3.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_colossus4.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_colossus5.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_colossus6.jpg

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Decapitates Donald Pierce:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_donaldpierce1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_donaldpierce2.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_donaldpierce3.jpg

Section II: Absorption/Battle/Strength feats


After being pushed out of a ship by Emma Frost, Shaw became significantly more powerful thanks to the kinetic energy he absorbed after hitting the ground:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_emma1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_emma2.jpg

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Jumps to incredible heights and shreds through that same ship:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_emma3.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_emma4.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_emma5.jpg

Section II: Absorption/Battle/Strength feats


Shaw vs. Emma Frost (part I):

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_emma6.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_emma7.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_emma8.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_emma9.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_emma10.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_emma11.jpg

Section II: Absorption/Battle/Strength feats


Shaw tools Fantomex:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_fantomex1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_fantomex2.jpg

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Absorbs Gambit's attack:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_gambit1.jpg

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Absorbs Gambit's energies on another occasion in order to destroy the Cronus Device:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_gambit2.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_gambit3.jpg

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Shaw and Gambit own some guards:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_guards1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_guards2.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_guards3.jpg

Section II: Absorption/Battle/Strength feats


Sebastian absorbs Holocaust's blast and redirects it back at him tenfold:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_holocaust1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_holocaust2.jpg

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Owns Extremis Tony:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_ironman1.jpg

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Tanks/absorbs Extremis Iron Man's repulsor blast:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_ironman2.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_ironman3.jpg

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Absorbs a somewhat barbaric physical attack from Jean Grey:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_jean1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_jean2.jpg

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Chokes-out Karma:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_karma1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_karma2.jpg

Section II: Absorption/Battle/Strength feats


Shaw vs. Magneto:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_magneto1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_magneto2.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_magneto3.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_magneto4.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_magneto5.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_magneto6.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_magneto7.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_magneto8.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_magneto9.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_magneto10.jpg

I'd say Sebastian did quite well against Magneto (better than most would have)- especially considering the entire battlefield was composed of metal.

Section II: Absorption/Battle/Strength feats

'Out-speeds' Nightcrawler:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_speed_nightcrawler1.jpg

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Endures a freezing blizzard manifested by Storm, and owns her and Nightcrawler (2 birds with 1 stone):

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_nightcrawler1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_nightcrawler2.jpg

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Even the highly advanced Nimrod recognizes that physical attacks are useless against Sebastian, and proceeds to passively redirect him into space:

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(of course Sebastian's re-entry/crash landing back to earth would only serve to empower him.)

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Shaw utterly shit-stomps Red Lotus:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_redlotus1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_redlotus2.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_redlotus3.jpg

Section II: Absorption/Battle/Strength feats


Sebastian one-shots Rogue /w/ all the powers of She-Hulk:

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Tanks/absorbs Rogues attack on another occasion, and one-shots her yet again:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_rogue5.jpg

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Physically destroys a Sentinel:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_sentinel1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_sentinel2.jpg

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Absorbs the blasts from a group of energy-weapon-wielding Baddies:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_energy1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_energy2.jpg

Section II: Absorption/Battle/Strength feats


Owns Storm:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_storm1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_storm2.jpg

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Owns Sunspot once:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_sunspot1.jpg

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And twice:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_sunspot2.jpg

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One-shots Warpath:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_warpath1.jpg

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Wrecks Wolverine:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_wolverine1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_wolverine2.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_wolverine3.jpg

A few things you might need to add:

There was a scene where Shaw verbally rapes Sabretooth and makes him back off with his tail between his legs.

Also there is a scene where Shaw is said to hit like the Hulk.

And there was also a scene where X-51 scanned Shaw and stated it's physically impossible to beat him or something.

And that 2nd fight with Colossus wan't real, just pointing that out.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
A few things you might need to add:

There was a scene where Shaw verbally rapes Sabretooth and makes him back off with his tail between his legs. Not into posting verbal bashing feats. Thanks though.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Also there is a scene where Shaw is said to hit like the Hulk. It's in there.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
And there was also a scene where X-51 scanned Shaw and stated it's physically impossible to beat him or something. It's in there.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
And that 2nd fight with Colossus wan't real, just pointing that out. Yeah, I realized I forgot to add that in after my 15 minute editing window had expired.

Regardless, it *should* be fairly obvious that it wasn't the real Sebastian (t'was a projection courtesy of Cassandra Nova.) I mean, Shaw usually never sustains physical damage when he absorbs energy- yet he was bloodied up by a few strikes from Colossus in that scene. 1+1=?

...Not to mention he had effortlessly dominated Colossus years earlier. /shrug

So I have a question can shaw be overloaded? Or is he just unstoppable by physical damage means?

Originally posted by jalek moye
So I have a question can shaw be overloaded? Or is he just unstoppable by physical damage means? Years ago Shaw could be, and was, overloaded (his battle with Magneto is a good example.) However, judging by the plethora of energy he's absorbed since those days, I think it's safe to assume that overloading him has become significanty more difficult- though it still cannot be ruled out as a possibility, given a powerful enough opponent and/or an incompetent writer.

Originally posted by Galan007

...Not to mention he had effortlessly dominated Colossus years earlier. /shrug True, but Colossus was holding back because he thought Shaw was a normal human. Still props to Shaw though.

Anyways nice thread, it's about damm time.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
True, but Colossus was holding back because he thought Shaw was a normal human. Still props to Shaw though.

Anyways nice thread, it's about damm time. Actually if you read the scans, Colossus stopped holding back against Shaw and still got stomped... But enough spam, thanks for the props!

Galan there may also be a scene missing where Shaw was stuck in a energy bubble and punched his way out. Every punch he threw made him stronger or something like that.

And I'd put his fight with Namor in there also. He stopped a Imperious Rex punch from Namor with his hand and in the same issue he broke Norman Osborn's finger.

^ Funny. I threw this thread together so quickly that I completely forgot to add those feats in. Much obliged.


Section II: Absorption/Battle/Strength feats


Sebastian shatters a prison designed to house mutants and absorb their energies, in order to empower the Cronus Device (a task not even Gambit was capable of, apparently):

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_sebstrength4.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_sebstrength5.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_sebstrength6.jpg

Also note that each time Shaw punched the prison, he absorbed the subsequent energy released, thereby making him a bit stronger with each strike. ie. whether he punches something, or something punches him, physical strikes increase Shaw's power. Period.

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A quick scuffle between Sebastian and Namor:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_sebstrength1.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_sebstrength2.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_sebstrength3.jpg

Considering Namor has gone toe-to-toe with the likes of Hulk (among many others) in the past, the fact that Sebastian was able to tank an "Imperius Rex!" punch, AND bloody up Namor in the process, is extremely impressive.

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Just to put more emphasis on these scans, and Shaw's level of strength- Rogue /w/ Ms. Marvel's power compared a b*tchslap from Shaw (a b*tchslap which sent her plowing through an entire building, btw), to a punch from Hulk. Shaw then proceeds to one-shot her:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_sebstrength7.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_strength_rogue5.jpg

Shaw beats the bejesus out of Iron Man and Wolverine:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_s2.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_s3.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_s4.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_s5.jpg http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_s6.jpg

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An intellectual feat: after acquiring the parts from Tony, Shaw was able to rebuild Doom's time machine from the ground up:

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/th_shawmind1.jpg

What issue is that?

BTW does anybody have any scans from Avengers Academy? I heard Shaw beats some people up in there.

Naw, he didn't beat anybody up. He got locked in a cell that drained his energy if he tried to charge up by punching the walls, so he asked for some books. Then he spent like 8 hours smacking himself in the forehead with em' until he had enough charge to break free.

Shaw builds up enough power to break out of a prison designed to absorb kinetic energy, via smacking himself in the head with a book for several hours. It is also insinuated that Shaw can absorb a punch from Thor:

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_00.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_f2ca94ff.jpg

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As he dishes out some ownage, Shaw explains that he isn't limited to just absorbing kinetic energy. He can absorb ANY form of energy... Electricity in this case:

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_1-2.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_2-1.jpg

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Shaw absorbs the MAGICAL energies of Hercules' sword-strike, before owning him:

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_3-1.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_4-1.jpg

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Owns Tigra:

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_5-1.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_6-1.jpg

Good showing, but a lot of inconsistencies.

Like up until First Class, Shaw was specifically kinetic energy. Years of him being only able to absorb kinetic energy. Now they're making him Bishop.

Box doesn't "wear" armor, he downloads his consciousness and body into the armor.

Apparently they're retconning Shaw's abilities in a sense. Per Avengers Academy, he has always been able to absorb all types of energy, but kinetic energy simply powers him up the most efficiently.

...I will say that he appeals to me less now. Cool ownage, but he's becoming more Rulk-like.

I agree.

Seems unnecessary and more along the lines of a "what the hell, let's give him a power up".

Cool scans, though.

Yes, it seems like they're saying. "Let's make Shaw that much harder to put down now that he got owned once"

I dunno, he was already able to absorb electric energy and other stuff, at least through lightning and other forms of attack.

I think this is just writers demonstrating that they don't really understand how expansive the term 'kinetic energy' really is.

Last time Storm hit him with lightning he got one-shotted I believe.

You mean in Ororo/Shaw first encounter?

I like it. I wish that was a powered Herc he fought. Shaw has always been a beast and with the current things that was recently shown in this comic, it was needed.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You mean in Ororo/Shaw first encounter?

I believe so.

Originally posted by carver9
I like it. I wish that was a powered Herc he fought. Shaw has always been a beast and with the current things that was recently shown in this comic, it was needed. So do I. Shaw's a villain and he needs to be uber.

He already was uber. There was no need to make him Bishop or Vulcan.

He owned Box hard.

Originally posted by carver9
I like it. I wish that was a powered Herc he fought. Shaw has always been a beast and with the current things that was recently shown in this comic, it was needed.

Why was it needed? Shaw was always a respected X-Villain and a credible threat, both physically and mentally.

This is just battleboard mentality right here.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Why was it needed? Shaw was always a respected X-Villain and a credible threat, both physically and mentally.

This is just battleboard mentality right here.

It would spread him out as a villain...give him room to show up in various of books and face powerful opponents "minus" the Xmen. I think its a good thing. It was also nice seeing him stomp Ironman as well, shows that he can hang with mid tier beings.

Originally posted by carver9
It would spread him out as a villain...give him room to show up in various of books and face powerful opponents "minus" the Xmen. I think its a good thing. It was also nice seeing him stomp Ironman as well, shows that he can hang with mid tier beings.

Yeah, battleboard mentality.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
He owned Box hard.

He sure did, but then again not sure why Jeffries didn't phase into the metal rather then just wear it as suit of armor. Oh well, they had to change his abilities for Shaw to stand a chance.

I find it comical that Tigra did better then Hercules and Box.

Herc is just a powerless noob running with fancy weapons...

Those fancy weapons are incredibly uber and add to the fact he is a highly killed hand to hand combatent so Shaw easily disarming him is lulz worthy.

Absorbs Hazmat's blast:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/12118664_s0.jpg

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One-shots a classic-age Sentinel:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/12118668_s2.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/12118671_s3.jpg

Shaw is amazing.

I'm just glad the recent issue toned him down a bit. The feats I posted above are things he's done in the past.