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Stalemate?

Well we know both the Serpent & Zeus Destroy Pure Adamantium

Fear Itself #5, The Serpent Destroys caps Shield
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1960733-05_11_2011_11.jpg
Incredible Hulk 628 , A guy invoking Zeus destroys Adamantium
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1960733-05_11_2011_11.jpg

That's partly why I made the match.

Adamantium is nothing to Zeus,

and Serpent broke Cap's shield, albeit it looked like he put some effort into it.

Just want to point out :
Vibranium > Adamantium and Cap's shield is even stronger than regular Vibranium. It's the most indestructible object ever created by man and Serpent snapped it like plastic.

Back to thread topic, I think Serpent takes this. Odin level foes are above Zeus, IMHO.

Originally posted by zopzop
Just want to point out :
Vibranium > Adamantium and Cap's shield is even stronger than regular Vibranium. It's the most indestructible object ever created by man and Serpent snapped it like plastic.

Back to thread topic, I think Serpent takes this. Odin level foes are above Zeus, IMHO. vibranium isnt strong, it just absorbs kinetic force, its the vibranium adamantium fusion that makes the shield stronger than regular adamntium

colossus broke vibranium before...

Why did Odin ask Zeus to not interfear in Fear Itself?

http://joeshusterawards.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/herc009_cvr_02.jpg

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Why did Odin ask Zeus to not interfear in Fear Itself?

http://joeshusterawards.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/herc009_cvr_02.jpg Did he now?

Yes! read herc #6

An encounter with the Serpent is something Zeus should do his best to avoid.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Why did Odin ask Zeus to not interfear in Fear Itself?
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Yes! read herc #6
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/1588/herc5015.th.jpg

I hope that's not the scene your referring to because what you said and what's actually in print are two very different things. Whatever, this type of shit is the norm with you.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
An encounter with the Serpent is something Zeus should do his best to avoid.

Let me guess, you're still parading around with the idea that Odin > Zeus.

Zeus would do just fine.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Let me guess, you're still parading around with the idea that Odin > Zeus.

Zeus has gone up in the world because Hercules is Pak's new favorite pet but until I see some more impressive shit -because frankly beating down the Hulk isn't anything to brag about in the circles Odin runs in- I'll stick to the stance that Odin > Zeus. Not only do I believe he can reach higher levels of power, Odin is a master strategist/tactician, an expert warrior, and his also the most powerful sorcerer in Asgard and possesses the knowledge of the Runes.

Even if we assume they have access to the exact same levels of raw power -and I don't see any reason why someone would reach that conclusion- Odin is still more accomplished and well rounded.

For the record, I think Zeus should avoid an encounter with the Serpent because I'm pretty certain it would result with a beatdown and any respect he may have gained recently would be lost.

Pak did the smart thing and simply excluded the Olympians from the event.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
An encounter with the Serpent is something Zeus should do his best to avoid.



http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/1588/herc5015.th.jpg

I hope that's not the scene your referring to because what you said and what's actually in print are two very different things. Whatever, this type of shit is the norm with you. where did you get that scan?

Zeus > All Assguard

Did Galactus beat Odin yet?

What has Serpent done to give everyone the idea that he can take Odin or Zeus? Him breaking Cap shield isn't enough. We are talking about 2 high end skyfathers.

On a serious note... Odin isn't as powerful as his classic self imo. Can't picture him shaking the Universe during a fight or destroying Galaxies but I would like to see more from Serpent before saying he could beat Odin or Zeus.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Zeus has gone up in the world because Hercules is Pak's new favorite pet but until I see some more impressive shit -because frankly beating down the Hulk isn't anything to brag about in the circles Odin runs in- I'll stick to the stance that Odin > Zeus. Not only do I believe he can reach higher levels of power, Odin is a master strategist/tactician, an expert warrior, and his also the most powerful sorcerer in Asgard and possesses the knowledge of the Runes.

Even if we assume they have access to the exact same levels of raw power -and I don't see any reason why someone would reach that conclusion- Odin is still more accomplished and well rounded.

For the record, I think Zeus should avoid an encounter with the Serpent because I'm pretty certain it would result with a beatdown and any respect he may have gained recently would be lost.

Pak did the smart thing and simply excluded the Olympians from the event. Zeus=Odin
Phuck your opinion

Recent shit is all that matters.

Zeus did an order of magnitude better against Galactus, with an amp that you yourself have claimed to be 'slight'. While Odin is/was having an earnest contest with Galactus.

Baseless supposition regarding Galactus' hunger levels in the respective showings aside, if that isn't enough to establish that the current status quo has them firmly in the same tier, then I don't know what is.

There is no way that Serpent would whoop Zeus' ass. I don't see how an honest non-asgard flag toting man could picture that happening

So he breaks Cap's shield with some visible umph. That's great. A portion of Zeus' power damaged adamantium.

It's a good fight. Zeus being kept out of the fray by writers in the same way Odin is, is further proof that they don't want powers that would threaten the Serpent being immediately present as combatants.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Zeus Destroy Pure Adamantium
Incredible Hulk 628 , A guy invoking Zeus destroys Adamantium
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1960733-05_11_2011_11.jpg in the next page it shows the missiles falling appart into component pieces, not destroyed in the reduced to burnt scrap type of way

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/missile.jpg

they are 96% intact (well, the component parts) and could be put back together, but most importantly the adamantium tips are perfectly fine

Originally posted by psycho gundam
in the next page it shows the missiles falling appart into component pieces, not destroyed in the reduced to burnt scrap type of way

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/missile.jpg

they are 96% intact (well, the component parts) and could be put back together, but most importantly the adamantium tips are perfectly fine ?

the adamntium casing the tip was sliced in half by the forcefield. how did you completely miss that? Look at the very first panel....

oh snap, you appear to be correct......

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Zeus=Odin
Phuck your opinion

My opinion is just the only logical conclusion I can reach. Are we not only assuming that Zeus is equal to Odin in raw power but is capable of doing anything the All Father can? People have always given Zeus an unusually high benefit of the doubt but that would be too far.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Recent shit is all that matters.

Okay? We can use showings only from the 90's and up. Odin still comes out on top.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Zeus did an order of magnitude better against Galactus, with an amp that you yourself have claimed to be 'slight'. While Odin is/was having an earnest contest with Galactus.

Baseless supposition regarding Galactus' hunger levels in the respective showings aside, if that isn't enough to establish that the current status quo has them firmly in the same tier, then I don't know what is.

Bravo for Zeus, like I said, he's going up in the world due to Pak but I'd still need to see more before I assume his on par with Odin. Not that it matters, people have been assuming that's the case long before the Galactus scene for whatever reason.

And I do believe they're in the same tier.

For the record, if Zeus faced a Galactus that had not yet fed and Odin is facing a Galactus that has, it would have a major impact on the battle. And these assumptions would be far from baseless. I'm not going to go into details of Galactus' hunger levels but if you press the point, I will.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
There is no way that Serpent would whoop Zeus' ass. I don't see how an honest non-asgard flag toting man could picture that happening

It not just that I like Asgard more than Olympus, I honestly believe that's how a battle between the two would go down whether people agree with it or not. The smartest option was to exclude Zeus from the event and I commend Pak for doing so. Your fooling yourself if you think that Zeus would some how walk away the victor if he were to pop in.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
So he breaks Cap's shield with some visible umph. That's great. A portion of Zeus' power damaged adamantium.

It's a good fight. Zeus being kept out of the fray by writers in the same way Odin is, is further proof that they don't want powers that would threaten the Serpent being immediately present as combatants.

Okay? For the record, I'm pretty sure a a nice chunk of Zeus' power was utilized. At the very least, that eagle that Hulk fought had a decent portion of Zeus' might. It doesn't exactly help Zeus help support that Zeus is equal to Odin but I like Zeus so I won't examine the scenes.

Think what you want bro, I'm just telling you my opinion of what would go down.

so when pak has zeus bust a galaxy you will stop arguing then?

Well, from a recent documentation I read on Zeus and Odin, they will be squaring off along with the gods of each realm (Herc, Thor, etc...). This is happening at the end of next year though, Sept or Nov. So all of your questions and thoughts of the 2 will be answered then because it was stated that the battle will not be over with until one of them falls. My money is on Zeus.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
where did you get that scan?

Herc #5.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
so when pak has zeus bust a galaxy you will stop arguing then?

I don't bust when I see large collateral damage like some tend to do but it definitely wouldn't hurt.

Originally posted by carver9
Well, from a recent documentation I read on Zeus and Odin, they will be squaring off along with the gods of each realm (Herc, Thor, etc...). This is happening at the end of next year though, Sept or Nov. So all of your questions and thoughts of the 2 will be answered then because it was stated that the battle will not be over with until one of them falls. My money is on Zeus.

Link?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Herc #5.

i thought that was going to happen in herc 6.1?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i thought that was going to happen in herc 6.1?

What was going to happen?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What was going to happen?

that hermes was sent to him
http://marvel.wikia.com/Herc_Vol_1_6.1

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Link?

I don't have a link. I got it from the same source that told me 3 yrs back that Superman was going to get weakened. I shared this info 3 yrs back and it happened. I got it from the same source that told me Hulk was going to get a major upgrade and I came on here and told you all after receiving this info that after his fight with Zeus, he is going to be upgraded past his WWH levels. I got it from the same source that told me Thor is going to get that a** tapped a couple of months from now.

My source has been on point and as long as this source is on point, I am going to continue to feed it to you all.

Based on feats, Odin > Zeus. Shit being said on panel is one thing. What characters actually do is another thing entirely.

As for the thread, I'd say it's still too early to call. If The Serpent is actually Odin's equal or near-equal, then he wins.

Originally posted by Harbinger
Based on feats, Odin > Zeus. Shit being said on panel is one thing. What characters actually do is another thing entirely.

As for the thread, I'd say it's still too early to call. If The Serpent is actually Odin's equal or near-equal, then he wins.

Exactly. Didn't Odin, in the beginning of the Fear Itself story, say WE'LL beat him like WE did before or something to his fellow Asgardians. Anyone that takes ODIN + ALL ASGARD to beat will STOMP Zeus.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Zeus=Odin
Phuck your opinion


I'll bottom line this for you I like Zeus more than Odin on panel they are suppose to be equal but your really don't want to start delving to deeply into this.Odin has feat that are not only better than Zeus but better than people who are suppose to be levels above him the quality of opponent Odin has faced are much better than Zeus.His limited appearances compared to Odin and not being a fleshed out as him at least in comics contribute to this but even in your standard appearance Odin comes across as more impressive.Take stock that Pak seems to like Zeus and the olympians and wants to use him and has had him coming across impressive and with the respect he deserves.

Serpent if reaches full potential. Meaning a few weeks of growth.

Kills Zeus.

Bumpity bump

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Why did Odin ask Zeus to not interfear in Fear Itself?

http://joeshusterawards.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/herc009_cvr_02.jpg He didn't the God head council degree by majority that the Serpent was only an asgardians matter So Zeus couldn't interfer. However it was noted that Zeus disagreed with that and he was in favor for fighting against him. 1 reason being that Olyimpas is now on earth

Originally posted by Harbinger
Based on feats, Odin > Zeus. Shit being said on panel is one thing. What characters actually do is another thing entirely.

As for the thread, I'd say it's still too early to call. If The Serpent is actually Odin's equal or near-equal, then he wins.

Zeus 7 or 8/10

Serpent wins.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
?

the adamntium casing the tip was sliced in half by the forcefield. how did you completely miss that? Look at the very first panel.... . It looks too clean to be breaking up. Each missile has the same straight line and they are falling back not through the shield as if they had been sliced

Personally I'd go with they fell apart on impact and not destroyed by the shields.

Originally posted by carver9
What has Serpent done to give everyone the idea that he can take Odin or Zeus? Him breaking Cap shield isn't enough. We are talking about 2 high end skyfathers.

On a serious note... Odin isn't as powerful as his classic self imo. Can't picture him shaking the Universe during a fight or destroying Galaxies but I would like to see more from Serpent before saying he could beat Odin or Zeus.

dude just went one on one wit da great one.. u know, the one who had a "herald my rage" tantrum not too long ago that destroyed celestial bodies along with it.
Dunno bout you, but Odin came out looking good against him.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
dude just went one on one wit da great one.. u know, the one who had a "herald my rage" tantrum not too long ago that destroyed celestial bodies along with it.
Dunno bout you, but Odin came out looking good against him.

Not denying anything you are saying but do you have scans?

After reading page 1 I'm mind****ed, Colossus big C was right 2 times.

What was he right about?

Originally posted by carver9
What was he right about? Corrected Zopzop about Vibraniums "durability" and the Hulk scan with the magical barrier cutting adamantium warheads.

Is hell still hot?

Originally posted by carver9
What has Serpent done to give everyone the idea that he can take Odin or Zeus? Him breaking Cap shield isn't enough. We are talking about 2 high end skyfathers.

On a serious note... Odin isn't as powerful as his classic self imo. Can't picture him shaking the Universe during a fight or destroying Galaxies but I would like to see more from Serpent before saying he could beat Odin or Zeus. Just like characters, objects such as shields have both high and low feats. Either that or the shields new limit has now been reduced to being able to be damaged by skyfather level power.

What feats does the shield have against non breaking?

Serpent via the fact that Odin needs an army to eradicate his brother.

Cap's shield has been slagged or bent multiple times now by Skyfathers. It's not a new limit.

Did this fight already happen?

Originally posted by the ninjak
Serpent via the fact that Odin needs an army to eradicate his brother. Asgardian soldiers = Hand Ninja, it was prove fact in Siege

Originally posted by carver9
Well, from a recent documentation I read on Zeus and Odin, they will be squaring off along with the gods of each realm (Herc, Thor, etc...). This is happening at the end of next year though, Sept or Nov. So all of your questions and thoughts of the 2 will be answered then because it was stated that the battle will not be over with until one of them falls. My money is on Zeus. Originally posted by carver9
I don't have a link. I got it from the same source that told me 3 yrs back that Superman was going to get weakened. I shared this info 3 yrs back and it happened. I got it from the same source that told me Hulk was going to get a major upgrade and I came on here and told you all after receiving this info that after his fight with Zeus, he is going to be upgraded past his WWH levels. I got it from the same source that told me Thor is going to get that a** tapped a couple of months from now.

My source has been on point and as long as this source is on point, I am going to continue to feed it to you all.

So... It seems I missed this event from last year. Scans?

lmao

Originally posted by carver9
Not denying anything you are saying but do you have scans?
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Odin

In a rather... uneventful fight... they engage in telepathy for a while until Galactus hits a soft spot and Odin then headbutts him. They plummet to Earth and then Galactus restores himself. Also takes a shot from Thor and doesn't miss a beat in his telepathic fight.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/07-27-201107.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/07-27-201109.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/07-27-201110.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/07-27-201111.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/07-27-201112.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/07-27-201113.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/07-27-201117.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/07-27-201118.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/07-27-201119.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/07-27-201120.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/09-02-201106.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/09-02-201107.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/09-02-201108.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/09-02-201111-12.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/09-02-201116.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Odin/09-02-201117.jpg

Even though it is a horrible showing for Galactus (he should one-shot kill all the Asgardians), it makes clear that Galactus was showing restraint all throughout the "battle".

Also, Surfer doesn't really want to fight for Galactus.

Originally posted by zopzop
Just want to point out :
Vibranium > Adamantium

Lol, no.

Originally posted by janus77
Even though it is a horrible showing for Galactus (he should one-shot kill all the Asgardians), it makes clear that Galactus was showing restraint all throughout the "battle".
Exactly. Remember what Thanos/Drax/Surfer did to Asgard and it's defenders? Odin had to jump in and save the day. If those three were capable of completely overwhelming Asgard's defenses, then Galactus for sure could have one shot the entire lot and then crushed Odin.


Surfer needs to start showing more loyalty to the guy that made him what he is. I mean it's not like Galactus is doing this out of spite or malice, he does what he does to survive because he's a needed universal force (confirmed by the LT and others).