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Help us find out who would win. The suspense is killing.

Galvatron without doubt..

Yet as they were past and future versions of themselves, when Galvatron would kill Megatron, Galvatron would cease to be. Read Target:2006 for a study of this.

And the movie was mid 80s, not 90s.

That's what I told him, but no he still writes it was the 90s. Stupid idiot, doesn't pay attention to anythin.

Originally posted by lordmegatron1
Help us find out who would win. The suspense is killing.

Galvatron had numerous small upgrades over Megatron. The total effect of all these would be a clear victory for Galvatron, usually.

In the G1 comics it was often asked (though never properly resolved) who would win between Galvatron & Optimus. In the comics it was hinted Galvatron should have a slight edge, I suppose winning 6 out of 10 fights. In which case he'd beat Megatron at least 8 out of 10 times.

Galvatron uses Unicron tech, no surprise he should hold an edge.

Also, alt-modes. Megatron needs to be fired, Galvatron can self-aim.

Galvatron is essentially an upgraded version of Megatron.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Galvatron without doubt..

Yet as they were past and future versions of themselves, when Galvatron would kill Megatron, Galvatron would cease to be. Read Target:2006 for a study of this.

And the movie was mid 80s, not 90s.

It depends on which Galvatron we're talking about. Galvatron II came from an alternate timeline, meaning what he would do to Megatron wouldn't, in any way, affect himself.

Actually, every Galvatron from the Marvel comics is an alternate timeline version, given the movie events never take place in the mainstream timeline.

The Target: 2006/Time Wars version of Galvatron is by far the most powerful Transformer outside of Unicron. We're talking "solo the Autobot and Decepticon armies without breaking a sweat" powerful.

Characters as powerful as Megatron got taken out in one punch. Hell, a combiner lost a slugfest against him (Piranacon. Underwater.)

Originally posted by cdtm
Actually, every Galvatron from the Marvel comics is an alternate timeline version, given the movie events never take place in the mainstream timeline.

The Target: 2006/Time Wars version of Galvatron is by far the most powerful Transformer outside of Unicron. We're talking "solo the Autobot and Decepticon armies without breaking a sweat" powerful.

Characters as powerful as Megatron got taken out in one punch. Hell, a combiner lost a slugfest against him (Piranacon. Underwater.)

I would argue that if Time Wars Galvatron killed Megatron, he too would cease to exist, unlike Galvatron II.

Target 2006 timeline is actually the same universe as the mainstream UK timeline. It was shown that the future could be altered when the future 2006 timeline was changed after the events of the Time Wars. It is possible that when Unicron was killed much earlier in the 90s rather than 2006, the Target 2006 future might have had also drastically altered.

Galvatron II's future was never meant to be THE future, unlike Target 2006, it was described as an "Alternate Future" in the opening of "Rythim of Darkness.

What I meant by "alternate timeline" in my first post was "parallel universe". (Sorry that I had to triple post but as you know, this site has a 15 minute limit to edit posts)

True, it was meant to be the mainline future, but Regeneration One changed all of that.

Plus there's the fact TF originated in Marvel, where time travel = alternate universe hopping by default per company policy (Says as much on Marvel.com)

Originally posted by cdtm
True, it was meant to be the mainline future, but Regeneration One changed all of that.

Plus there's the fact TF originated in Marvel, where time travel = alternate universe hopping by default per company policy (Says as much on Marvel.com)
Firstly, I know that but there were still times where time travel actually changed the future instead of creating an alternate universe.

Secondly, Regeneration One is not canon to the Marvel UK continuity, it's only a sequel to the US stories. Simon Furman himself has said that he took inspirations from the UK stories but they're not necessarily canon to RG1 aside from a few stories that was referenced.

I'm not arguing that Time Wars future didn't happen in the main timeline, I'm arguing that it's not necessarily an alternate universe (unlike Galvatron II's future) but rather a future that never happened. There's a distinction.

Heck, we've already seen the future got reseted. The original UK future had Decepticons as outlaws, after the Time Wars story, the future timeline got reseted to a timeline in which Decepticons ruled Cybertron and Autobots were freedom fighters. The new future was distincly a reseted future instead of an alternate universe to the original future.

You see where I'm going with this?

Proof for RG1 being seperate from UK stuff:
* Wreckers are alive, yet they were killed in Time Wars.
* As far as I remember, Ultra Magnus didn't know who Galvatron was prior to their encounter in Cybertron in RG1. Yet, Ultra Magnus had a rich history with Galvatron in the UK continuity, so there's no way he can't remember who Galvatron is.

The only UK story, RG1 directly referenced was the Deathbringer arc...which was already referenced in the original US stories, meaning it was more or less canon to the US continuity.

Galvatron has upgrades from the freaking Unicron. He wins.

Originally posted by coco11
Proof for RG1 being seperate from UK stuff:
* Wreckers are alive, yet they were killed in Time Wars.
* As far as I remember, Ultra Magnus didn't know who Galvatron was prior to their encounter in Cybertron in RG1. Yet, Ultra Magnus had a rich history with Galvatron in the UK continuity, so there's no way he can't remember who Galvatron is.

The only UK story, RG1 directly referenced was the Deathbringer arc...which was already referenced in the original US stories, meaning it was more or less canon to the US continuity.

Huh... Good points.

If they could be seperate continuity, it's too bad Simon Furman couldn't have come up with a way to preserve Megatron though. Sure, the true Megatron vs Straxustron was a good story, but I rather liked Megatron's character development in Time Wars. All undone with the retcon.

And poor Rodimus Prime! His UK ending is the saddest thing ever, stuck in as a decrepit vessel for Unicron's evil, unintentionally influencing the younger generation to follow the dark paths.

At least the Dinobot stuff is a sort of canon though. How about the US joker tyrant wanna be Starscream Grimlock vs the UK leader who cares about his men and makes good decisions Grimlock?

Originally posted by cdtm
Huh... Good points.
Thanks.

Originally posted by cdtm
If they could be seperate continuity, it's too bad Simon Furman couldn't have come up with a way to preserve Megatron though. Sure, the true Megatron vs Straxustron was a good story, but I rather liked Megatron's character development in Time Wars. All undone with the retcon.


I personally would have prefered if they would have just treated UK comics as a seperate continuity in the first place. That way, the writers wouldn't have had to come up with a retcon like the clone arc.


Originally posted by cdtm
And poor Rodimus Prime! His UK ending is the saddest thing ever, stuck in as a decrepit vessel for Unicron's evil, unintentionally influencing the younger generation to follow the dark paths.

Agreed. I think Rodimus' arc was supposed to be continued but unfortunately it didn't.

Originally posted by cdtm At least the Dinobot stuff is a sort of canon though. How about the US joker tyrant wanna be Starscream Grimlock vs the UK leader who cares about his men and makes good decisions Grimlock?
I find it funny that the Autobots thought (US) Grimlock would make a good leader.

I think US Blaster was a rather cool character, shame that he didn't appear much in the UK stories and the later US stories written by Simon Furman, guess he didn't like the character as much as Grimlock...

Also about the Target 2006 future, if we take the Facebook edition of Ask Vector Prime into account, it IS actually an alternate universe.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ask_Vector_Prime