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There was debate on comicvine, but didn't conclude which was more powerful through logical means.
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/the-infinity-gems-vs-the-mkraan-crystal/526938/

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/1375785-crystalcard.jpg vs. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/38780/1472180-infinity_gems.jpg

There was a person stating that M'Kraan was more powerful, because the Phoenix was guarding it and the Infinity gems were floating around the universe.

There are on panel scans stating :

a) the IG only works in the universe it's native to
b) the IG gets it's power from the Power Primordial of the Big Bang (stated by Warlock)
c) the PF is another name for the Big Bang (stated by Reed)
d) the M'kraan Crystal is multiversal (it's the same Crystal throughout the Multiverse, just like the LT).

So unless any of this has been retconed, IMHO the M'kraan Crystal "wins".

IG

Originally posted by zopzop
There are on panel scans stating :

a) the IG only works in the universe it's native to
b) the IG gets it's power from the Power Primordial of the Big Bang (stated by Warlock)
c) the PF is another name for the Big Bang (stated by Reed)
d) the M'kraan Crystal is multiversal (it's the same Crystal throughout the Multiverse, just like the LT).

So unless any of this has been retconed, IMHO the M'kraan Crystal "wins". Thanks

IG

Originally posted by the Darkone
IG

Originally posted by zopzop
There are on panel scans stating :

a) the IG only works in the universe it's native to
and the Ultraverse...

The Crystal's fighting skills are overmatched by the Gem's craftyness IMO. I'd have to give it to the Gems.

Originally posted by zopzop
There are on panel scans stating :

a) the IG only works in the universe it's native to
b) the IG gets it's power from the Power Primordial of the Big Bang (stated by Warlock)
c) the PF is another name for the Big Bang (stated by Reed)
d) the M'kraan Crystal is multiversal (it's the same Crystal throughout the Multiverse, just like the LT).

So unless any of this has been retconed, IMHO the M'kraan Crystal "wins".


Yea, because that was seen when the wielder of the IG had control over the 616 reality, and in turn all universes, right?

IG is more powerful, no question about it.

Originally posted by CortSether
Yea, because that was seen when the wielder of the IG had control over the 616 reality, and in turn all universes, right?

IG is more powerful, no question about it.

Dude, stop being a prick. It's not like I made any of that up. It's right there on panel. The "IG working only in it's native universe" was as recent as 2009 I believe. So unless you got something MORE recent that retcons that, I don't want to hear it.

Edit, got date wrong.

IG easy

The IG has more "powers" but it isn't more powerful. Misuse of the M'Kraan Crystal can destroy the mulitverse, and the IG is not a multiversal threat.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
and the Ultraverse...

The Crystal's fighting skills are overmatched by the Gem's craftyness IMO. I'd have to give it to the Gems.

Originally posted by zopzop
Dude, stop being a prick. It's not like I made any of that up. It's right there on panel. The "IG working only in it's native universe" was as recent as 2009 I believe. So unless you got something MORE recent that retcons that, I don't want to hear it.

Edit, got date wrong.

Those weren't the 616 gems first off, and second there was no recton of anything

The Infinity Gauntlet is a Shift Z item, while the M'Kraan according to that card is Shift X. The IG wins.

Originally posted by zopzop
Dude, stop being a prick. It's not like I made any of that up. It's right there on panel. The "IG working only in it's native universe" was as recent as 2009 I believe. So unless you got something MORE recent that retcons that, I don't want to hear it.

Edit, got date wrong.

Nobody is being a prick, you're just being sensitive.

And nothing was retconned. Anyway, Thanos already showed that he had total control of the 616 reality with the gauntlet, and when you have total control of 616 you have control over all realities since all divergent realities branch from 616.

Originally posted by CortSether
Nobody is being a prick, you're just being sensitive.

And nothing was retconned. Anyway, Thanos already showed that he had total control of the 616 reality with the gauntlet, and when you have total control of 616 you have control over all realities since all divergent realities branch from 616.

Except that can't be right. When the LT initially refused to intervene, he stated that Thanos was only a threat to one universe and he had the will to be content with it. If he truly was multiversal, the LT would have stepped in.

Originally posted by zopzop
Except that can't be right. When the LT initially refused to intervene, he stated that Thanos was only a threat to one universe and he had the will to be content with it. If he truly was multiversal, the LT would have stepped in.

Incorrect. LT stated that he didn't interfere because Thanos only desired to replace Eternity with himself. He said nothing about Thanos being a threat to one more multiple universes.

Um, if you read the IG respect thread or MrMaster's heirarchy thread it's clear that the IG was a multiversal threat. Thanos just never went that far with it before he was stopped. LT interfered when Adam Warlock had it because he was going to

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Incorrect. LT stated that he didn't interfere because Thanos only desired to replace Eternity with himself. He said nothing about Thanos being a threat to one or multiple universes.

Corrected.

Originally posted by zopzop
There are on panel scans stating :

a) the IG only works in the universe it's native to
b) the IG gets it's power from the Power Primordial of the Big Bang (stated by Warlock)
c) the PF is another name for the Big Bang (stated by Reed)
d) the M'kraan Crystal is multiversal (it's the same Crystal throughout the Multiverse, just like the LT).

So unless any of this has been retconed, IMHO the M'kraan Crystal "wins". i got this

i'll place one magic card face up

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/fluteofsummoningmaster.png

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i got this

i'll place one magic card face up

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/fluteofsummoningmaster.png Thats a bad magic card, what if "Mr. Master" has been discarded in the graveyard before?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i got this

i'll place one magic card face up

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/fluteofsummoningmaster.png

Originally posted by vansonbee
Thats a bad magic card, what if "Mr. Master" has been discarded in the graveyard before? impossible

lmfao

Originally posted by vansonbee
There was debate on comicvine, but didn't conclude which was more powerful through logical means.
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/the-infinity-gems-vs-the-mkraan-crystal/526938/

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/1375785-crystalcard.jpg vs. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/38780/1472180-infinity_gems.jpg

There was a person stating that M'Kraan was more powerful, because the Phoenix was guarding it and the Infinity gems were floating around the universe.

The IG is more powerful. Not only can it be argued that the IG can affect multiple universes and possible the multiverse, a user can use it to wish items like the M'Krann Crystal and UN into their hands. The M'Krann is just a destructive active while the IG gives you mastery over aspects of existence that allow the wielder to do things like mess with the UN's attack and likely shutdown the M'Krann with a mere wish.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i got this

i'll place one magic card face up

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/fluteofsummoningmaster.png

the crystal is more powerful, it also looks better

The Mr Master joke is awesome.

It's been a while since I saw him on

I thought Crystal wasn't multiversal just the powersource that runs through it was. So like multiple universes all drawing off the same source which is multiversal but the crystal itself is not.

Mkraan crystal destroyed previous multiverse and created the current one(along with infinity gems inside the multiverse)

It is nexus of ALL REALIIES(omniverse) Its the 2nd most powerful object in marvel after HOTU

IG is multiversal. Even an incomplete gauntlet (missing reality gem) easily merged two universes together. Sure, in a recent story, it was claimed to be "only" universal due to writer ignorance and plot-induced needs but, as this goes against well-established canon, it should be ignored.