Archangel vs Captain America

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Oslaught1262
warren cannot fly in this combat

Sin I AM
lol steve rules

Bentley
Well, Archangel is way stronger, has a healing factor and can send several missiles at once, his physiology is also quite enduring.

Steve still wins imo.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by Bentley
Well, Archangel is way stronger, has a healing factor and can send several missiles at once, his physiology is also quite enduring.

Steve still wins imo.


i disagree with this entire statement....save the missle comment, oh and that steve wins. everything else is just wrong

Don Corleone
Originally posted by Sin I AM
lol steve rules

I agree. He makes good sigs too.

psycho gundam
archangel for the majority

the wings just see like obstacles cap can't safely overcome.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archdecap1.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archdecap2.jpg

Sin I AM
Originally posted by psycho gundam
archangel for the majority

the wings just see like obstacles cap can't safely overcome.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archdecap1.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archdecap2.jpg


surely you jest. Are you implying cap would have difficulty dealing with Warrens pinions?

Don Corleone
Originally posted by Bentley
Well, Archangel is way stronger, has a healing factor and can send several missiles at once, his physiology is also quite enduring.

Steve still wins imo.

Do you have any scans of AA lifting , showing strength ?

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Sin I AM
surely you jest. Are you implying cap would have difficulty dealing with Warrens pinions? that's exactly what i'm saying wink

Prep-Man
Archangel.

Bentley
Originally posted by Sin I AM
i disagree with this entire statement....save the missle comment, oh and that steve wins. everything else is just wrong


Everything I said is true though confused

Bentley
Originally posted by Don Corleone
Do you have any scans of AA lifting , showing strength ?


He has been stated to be stronger than most humans in order to resist the pressure of his high speed flight. That, in his Angel form, I'd assume Archangel is further enhanced.

I've read Angel just in Defenders and Champions though, it will take me a while to find a good scan.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by Bentley
He has been stated to be stronger than most humans in order to resist the pressure of his high speed flight. That, in his Angel form, I'd assume Archangel is further enhanced.

I've read Angel just in Defenders and Champions though, it will take me a while to find a good scan.

yes, your assuming, and IF there was any strength difference it wouldnt be enough to give warren a significant advantage, and u would be hard-pressed to find any feat that steve couldnt duplicate and proceed to shat on.

steve has bullet dodging feats sans shield so pinions wont do squat, and the thread starter took away his greatest offense (his flight) thereby neutering him

Bentley
I agree that Steve can take him, but I'm pretty sure Warren's stats are higher, at least enough to matter if he could land three hits in a row -which won't happen unless he wounds Steve first-.

With enough strength Archangel could jump around and send feathers against Cap. I'm just not the right poster to prove or disprove that ability.

psycho gundam
this guy has bullet-dodging also

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/flechettes.jpg

big grin

Sin I AM
Originally posted by psycho gundam
this guy has bullet-dodging also

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/flechettes.jpg

big grin

ha!! wolverine would rather take a bullet than dodge it

psycho gundam
he didn't have a choice

leonidas
ima say cap, though not for a sweep.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by psycho gundam
he didn't have a choice

do me a favor and post the entire fight

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Sin I AM
do me a favor and post the entire fight http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight1.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight2.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight3.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight4.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight5.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight6.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight7.jpg

Trackz
have you seen current ArchAngel? He takes this easily.

psycho gundam
he's a mini-apocalypse now

zopzop
Has Archangel ever won a fight? Ever? I'm going with Captain America for now.

rotiart
Other than leading apocalypses
Former minions... How is archangel any more powerful than previously? Ruthless maybe... Stronger?

StiltmanFTW
Steve can't block all of Warren's feathers and definitely can't heal quick enough from his neurotoxin.

Mindset
Originally posted by zopzop
Has Archangel ever won a fight? Ever? I'm going with Captain America for now. Yes.

zopzop
Originally posted by Mindset
Yes.
lookaround
Who? Anyone in Cap's league?

the ninjak
Warren takes this I reckon 8.5/10

Sin I AM
you boys are seriously underestimating Cap...plus that fight with Logan as its apparent from his internal monologue Wolverine was pulling punches

zopzop
Originally posted by Sin I AM
you boys are seriously underestimating Cap...plus that fight with Logan as its apparent from his internal monologue Wolverine was pulling punches
thumb up

Trackz
Originally posted by Sin I AM
you boys are seriously underestimating Cap...plus that fight with Logan as its apparent from his internal monologue Wolverine was pulling punches archangel has ascended to apocalypse level...even in that fight, warren wasn't focusing on wolverine.

jalek moye
Didn't he beat Crimson dynamo?

Sin I AM
Originally posted by Trackz
archangel has ascended to apocalypse level...even in that fight, warren wasn't focusing on wolverine.

yes but the current warrens powerset hasnt been fleshed out...so its assumed normal AA

Trackz
Originally posted by Sin I AM
yes but the current warrens powerset hasnt been fleshed out...so its assumed normal AA even so archangel is vicious, if steve loses the shield the fights over...I doubt the shield would do much damage either way.

vansonbee
Originally posted by psycho gundam
this guy has bullet-dodging also

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/flechettes.jpg

big grin Originally posted by psycho gundam
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight1.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight2.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight3.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight4.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight5.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight6.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight7.jpg Wolverine could of dodge it, if it wasn't in close quarters and come on! Its Wolverine, there no point in dodging it anymore XD

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by zopzop
lookaround
Who? Anyone in Cap's league?

Classic Wolverine when he "showered" him with his pinions? Warren has some good showings as Archangel.

In a forum fight there's a starting distance. No way Cap is winning this.

Eternal Idol
Some good points being made in this thread in favor of Archangel. I have a feeling people are arguing for Captain America simply because he's Captain America, and not a B-lister like Archangel.


Archangel ftw.

Mshinu
Archangel for a majority at least.

Why does he have a penis pattern on his chest now? confused

Mindset
Why don't you?

Bentley
Angel is an A-lister.



biscuits



No, he seriously is ahah



biscuits

Sin I AM
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Some good points being made in this thread in favor of Archangel. I have a feeling people are arguing for Captain America simply because he's Captain America, and not a B-lister like Archangel.


Archangel ftw.


im arguing for Steve simply because Warrens whole advantage against other streets (his ability to fly) is taken away during this fight. Once the starting distance is covered he does not have the h2h feats to contend. You guys act like he's Bullseye with those wings of his or something

Daredevil1
cap ftw

Marvelknight
Steve 7/10.

Eternal Idol
Originally posted by Sin I AM
im arguing for Steve simply because Warrens whole advantage against other streets (his ability to fly) is taken away during this fight. Once the starting distance is covered he does not have the h2h feats to contend. You guys act like he's Bullseye with those wings of his or something

Cap is not covering 0.5km while dodging both flechettes and wing swipes.

Eon Blue
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Cap is not covering 0.5km while dodging both flechettes and wing swipes.

the ninjak
Originally posted by Sin I AM
im arguing for Steve simply because Warrens whole advantage against other streets (his ability to fly) is taken away during this fight. Once the starting distance is covered he does not have the h2h feats to contend. You guys act like he's Bullseye with those wings of his or something

Warren doesn't need to fly to be a threat anymore. Those wings are insanely strong, held Logan against a wall and he uses them like two giant scissor blades.
Warren doesn't need to shoot projectiles but he will just to force Steve to use his shield defensively then running in and swipe away.
If Steve throws that shield Warren would swipe it aside or envelope himself with the wings.

Warren has every advantage in this fight even on the ground.

I gave Warren 8.5 only because Of Steve's better H2H knowledge but that won't help much here.

psycho gundam
using his wings and confirmation they still have paralyzing effect (worked on deadpool's mouth)

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/slashandparalysis.jpg

the ninjak
That swipe alone is disaster for anyone who doesn't have epic durability.

One swipe and at least 20 blades randomly entering your body that deplete all motor funtions.

Cap better be pushing hard against those wings unless one of those blades enter.

Metalmanx
Ninjak nailed it.

Archangel takes the majority here. Too many advantages.

psycho gundam
The ending to that issue was amazing

Trackz
steve might be able to win...archangel kinda sucks, fantomex kinda wrecked him and he flew away

StiltmanFTW
In a forum fight? Not really.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Trackz
steve might be able to win...archangel kinda sucks, fantomex kinda wrecked him and he flew away nah, archangel showed he was invulnerable to fantomex's attacks and let genocide dispose of him so he could continue changing the world

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex21.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex22.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex23.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex24.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex25.jpg

in the fourth scan fantomex uses a "sentient bullet"* and landed a headshot to no lethal effect so....he really can't hope to do any more than that.

(* the bullet was molded from the skin of a mutant who had "conscious skin", so one would assume he can tell the bullets where he wanted them to end up or they understand who they are intended to kill and change course accordingly)

Trackz
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
In a forum fight? Not really. CIS still applies, no? Archangel isn't a bloodlusted killer anymore, he appears more reserved than before.

juggernaut74
Cap wins.

Lord Feron
Originally posted by psycho gundam
nah, archangel showed he was invulnerable to fantomex's attacks and let genocide dispose of him so he could continue changing the world

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex21.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex22.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex23.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex24.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex25.jpg

in the fourth scan fantomex uses a "sentient bullet"* and landed a headshot to no lethal effect so....he really can't hope to do any more than that.

(* the bullet was molded from the skin of a mutant who had "conscious skin", so one would assume he can tell the bullets where he wanted them to end up or they understand who they are intended to kill and change course accordingly)

did that special bullet just bounce off his head???

psycho gundam
yes

Sin I AM
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Cap is not covering 0.5km while dodging both flechettes and wing swipes.


He done more with less

psycho gundam
that's the point he was trying to make ermm

Sin I AM
Originally posted by psycho gundam
that's the point he was trying to make ermm


no its not, he saying cap cant do it...im saying he can

psycho gundam
archangel can still glide big grin

vansonbee
Originally posted by Lord Feron
did that special bullet just bounce off his head??? The bullet kind of bounce off the head set, he was wearing, but at least we know that hood is tougher than a bullet.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by vansonbee
The bullet kind of bounce off the head set, he was wearing, but at least we know that hood is tougher than a bullet.


so its his armor then and not natural durability?

vansonbee
Originally posted by Sin I AM
so its his armor then and not natural durability? Who knows, but I'm going with his armor that protected him. The writer could of made it more valid, if it hit in the forehead and bounce.

Eternal Idol
Originally posted by Sin I AM
He done more with less

Assuming he gets past the flechettes and closes the distance, he'll be wide open for wing swipe or two.

Archangel ftw.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by vansonbee
Who knows, but I'm going with his armor that protected him. The writer could of made it more valid, if it hit in the forehead and bounce. it's made from his own body

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/fight5.jpg

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