Archangel vs Captain America
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Oslaught1262
warren cannot fly in this combat
Bentley
Well, Archangel is way stronger, has a healing factor and can send several missiles at once, his physiology is also quite enduring.
Steve still wins imo.
Sin I AM
Originally posted by Bentley
Well, Archangel is way stronger, has a healing factor and can send several missiles at once, his physiology is also quite enduring.
Steve still wins imo.
i disagree with this entire statement....save the missle comment, oh and that steve wins. everything else is just wrong
Don Corleone
Originally posted by Sin I AM
lol steve rules
I agree. He makes good sigs too.
psycho gundam
archangel for the majority
the wings just see like obstacles cap can't safely overcome.
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archdecap1.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archdecap2.jpg
Sin I AM
Originally posted by psycho gundam
archangel for the majority
the wings just see like obstacles cap can't safely overcome.
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archdecap1.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archdecap2.jpg
surely you jest. Are you implying cap would have difficulty dealing with Warrens pinions?
Don Corleone
Originally posted by Bentley
Well, Archangel is way stronger, has a healing factor and can send several missiles at once, his physiology is also quite enduring.
Steve still wins imo.
Do you have any scans of AA lifting , showing strength ?
psycho gundam
Originally posted by Sin I AM
surely you jest. Are you implying cap would have difficulty dealing with Warrens pinions? that's exactly what i'm saying
Bentley
Originally posted by Sin I AM
i disagree with this entire statement....save the missle comment, oh and that steve wins. everything else is just wrong
Everything I said is true though
Bentley
Originally posted by Don Corleone
Do you have any scans of AA lifting , showing strength ?
He has been stated to be stronger than most humans in order to resist the pressure of his high speed flight. That, in his Angel form, I'd assume Archangel is further enhanced.
I've read Angel just in Defenders and Champions though, it will take me a while to find a good scan.
Sin I AM
Originally posted by Bentley
He has been stated to be stronger than most humans in order to resist the pressure of his high speed flight. That, in his Angel form, I'd assume Archangel is further enhanced.
I've read Angel just in Defenders and Champions though, it will take me a while to find a good scan.
yes, your assuming, and IF there was any strength difference it wouldnt be enough to give warren a significant advantage, and u would be hard-pressed to find any feat that steve couldnt duplicate and proceed to shat on.
steve has bullet dodging feats sans shield so pinions wont do squat, and the thread starter took away his greatest offense (his flight) thereby neutering him
Bentley
I agree that Steve can take him, but I'm pretty sure Warren's stats are higher, at least enough to matter if he could land three hits in a row -which won't happen unless he wounds Steve first-.
With enough strength Archangel could jump around and send feathers against Cap. I'm just not the right poster to prove or disprove that ability.
psycho gundam
this guy has bullet-dodging also
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/flechettes.jpg
Sin I AM
Originally posted by psycho gundam
this guy has bullet-dodging also
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/flechettes.jpg
ha!! wolverine would rather take a bullet than dodge it
psycho gundam
he didn't have a choice
leonidas
ima say cap, though not for a sweep.
Sin I AM
Originally posted by psycho gundam
he didn't have a choice
do me a favor and post the entire fight
psycho gundam
Originally posted by Sin I AM
do me a favor and post the entire fight http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight1.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight2.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight3.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight4.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight5.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight6.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight7.jpg
Trackz
have you seen current ArchAngel? He takes this easily.
psycho gundam
he's a mini-apocalypse now
zopzop
Has Archangel ever won a fight? Ever? I'm going with Captain America for now.
rotiart
Other than leading apocalypses
Former minions... How is archangel any more powerful than previously? Ruthless maybe... Stronger?
StiltmanFTW
Steve can't block all of Warren's feathers and definitely can't heal quick enough from his neurotoxin.
Mindset
Originally posted by zopzop
Has Archangel ever won a fight? Ever? I'm going with Captain America for now. Yes.
zopzop
Originally posted by Mindset
Yes.
lookaround
Who? Anyone in Cap's league?
the ninjak
Warren takes this I reckon 8.5/10
Sin I AM
you boys are seriously underestimating Cap...plus that fight with Logan as its apparent from his internal monologue Wolverine was pulling punches
zopzop
Originally posted by Sin I AM
you boys are seriously underestimating Cap...plus that fight with Logan as its apparent from his internal monologue Wolverine was pulling punches
Trackz
Originally posted by Sin I AM
you boys are seriously underestimating Cap...plus that fight with Logan as its apparent from his internal monologue Wolverine was pulling punches archangel has ascended to apocalypse level...even in that fight, warren wasn't focusing on wolverine.
jalek moye
Didn't he beat Crimson dynamo?
Sin I AM
Originally posted by Trackz
archangel has ascended to apocalypse level...even in that fight, warren wasn't focusing on wolverine.
yes but the current warrens powerset hasnt been fleshed out...so its assumed normal AA
Trackz
Originally posted by Sin I AM
yes but the current warrens powerset hasnt been fleshed out...so its assumed normal AA even so archangel is vicious, if steve loses the shield the fights over...I doubt the shield would do much damage either way.
vansonbee
Originally posted by psycho gundam
this guy has bullet-dodging also
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/flechettes.jpg
Originally posted by psycho gundam
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight1.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight2.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight3.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight4.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight5.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight6.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_fight7.jpg Wolverine could of dodge it, if it wasn't in close quarters and come on! Its Wolverine, there no point in dodging it anymore XD
StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by zopzop
lookaround
Who? Anyone in Cap's league?
Classic Wolverine when he "showered" him with his pinions? Warren has some good showings as Archangel.
In a forum fight there's a starting distance. No way Cap is winning this.
Eternal Idol
Some good points being made in this thread in favor of Archangel. I have a feeling people are arguing for Captain America simply because he's Captain America, and not a B-lister like Archangel.
Archangel ftw.
Mshinu
Archangel for a majority at least.
Why does he have a penis pattern on his chest now?
Bentley
Angel is an A-lister.
biscuits
No, he seriously is ahah
biscuits
Sin I AM
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Some good points being made in this thread in favor of Archangel. I have a feeling people are arguing for Captain America simply because he's Captain America, and not a B-lister like Archangel.
Archangel ftw.
im arguing for Steve simply because Warrens whole advantage against other streets (his ability to fly) is taken away during this fight. Once the starting distance is covered he does not have the h2h feats to contend. You guys act like he's Bullseye with those wings of his or something
Eternal Idol
Originally posted by Sin I AM
im arguing for Steve simply because Warrens whole advantage against other streets (his ability to fly) is taken away during this fight. Once the starting distance is covered he does not have the h2h feats to contend. You guys act like he's Bullseye with those wings of his or something
Cap is not covering 0.5km while dodging both flechettes and wing swipes.
Eon Blue
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Cap is not covering 0.5km while dodging both flechettes and wing swipes.
the ninjak
Originally posted by Sin I AM
im arguing for Steve simply because Warrens whole advantage against other streets (his ability to fly) is taken away during this fight. Once the starting distance is covered he does not have the h2h feats to contend. You guys act like he's Bullseye with those wings of his or something
Warren doesn't need to fly to be a threat anymore. Those wings are insanely strong, held Logan against a wall and he uses them like two giant scissor blades.
Warren doesn't need to shoot projectiles but he will just to force Steve to use his shield defensively then running in and swipe away.
If Steve throws that shield Warren would swipe it aside or envelope himself with the wings.
Warren has every advantage in this fight even on the ground.
I gave Warren 8.5 only because Of Steve's better H2H knowledge but that won't help much here.
psycho gundam
using his wings and confirmation they still have paralyzing effect (worked on deadpool's mouth)
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/slashandparalysis.jpg
the ninjak
That swipe alone is disaster for anyone who doesn't have epic durability.
One swipe and at least 20 blades randomly entering your body that deplete all motor funtions.
Cap better be pushing hard against those wings unless one of those blades enter.
Metalmanx
Ninjak nailed it.
Archangel takes the majority here. Too many advantages.
psycho gundam
The ending to that issue was amazing
Trackz
steve might be able to win...archangel kinda sucks, fantomex kinda wrecked him and he flew away
StiltmanFTW
In a forum fight? Not really.
psycho gundam
Originally posted by Trackz
steve might be able to win...archangel kinda sucks, fantomex kinda wrecked him and he flew away nah, archangel showed he was invulnerable to fantomex's attacks and let genocide dispose of him so he could continue changing the world
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex21.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex22.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex23.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex24.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex25.jpg
in the fourth scan fantomex uses a "sentient bullet"* and landed a headshot to no lethal effect so....he really can't hope to do any more than that.
(* the bullet was molded from the skin of a mutant who had "conscious skin", so one would assume he can tell the bullets where he wanted them to end up or they understand who they are intended to kill and change course accordingly)
Trackz
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
In a forum fight? Not really. CIS still applies, no? Archangel isn't a bloodlusted killer anymore, he appears more reserved than before.
Lord Feron
Originally posted by psycho gundam
nah, archangel showed he was invulnerable to fantomex's attacks and let genocide dispose of him so he could continue changing the world
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex21.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex22.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex23.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex24.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_archangelvsfantomex25.jpg
in the fourth scan fantomex uses a "sentient bullet"* and landed a headshot to no lethal effect so....he really can't hope to do any more than that.
(* the bullet was molded from the skin of a mutant who had "conscious skin", so one would assume he can tell the bullets where he wanted them to end up or they understand who they are intended to kill and change course accordingly)
did that special bullet just bounce off his head???
Sin I AM
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Cap is not covering 0.5km while dodging both flechettes and wing swipes.
He done more with less
psycho gundam
that's the point he was trying to make ermm
Sin I AM
Originally posted by psycho gundam
that's the point he was trying to make ermm
no its not, he saying cap cant do it...im saying he can
psycho gundam
archangel can still glide
vansonbee
Originally posted by Lord Feron
did that special bullet just bounce off his head??? The bullet kind of bounce off the head set, he was wearing, but at least we know that hood is tougher than a bullet.
Sin I AM
Originally posted by vansonbee
The bullet kind of bounce off the head set, he was wearing, but at least we know that hood is tougher than a bullet.
so its his armor then and not natural durability?
vansonbee
Originally posted by Sin I AM
so its his armor then and not natural durability? Who knows, but I'm going with his armor that protected him. The writer could of made it more valid, if it hit in the forehead and bounce.
Eternal Idol
Originally posted by Sin I AM
He done more with less
Assuming he gets past the flechettes and closes the distance, he'll be wide open for wing swipe or two.
Archangel ftw.
psycho gundam
Originally posted by vansonbee
Who knows, but I'm going with his armor that protected him. The writer could of made it more valid, if it hit in the forehead and bounce. it's made from his own body
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/fight5.jpg
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