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Odinforce Thor for the vast majority. One EMP blast and it's lights out again for not just Jean Grey but the PF itself.

Jean one shots him

Which Odin Force Thor? Which Phoenix incarnation?

What difference would it make what version Phoenix? The Force itself was almost completely destroyed by a planetary level EMP attack. I think it's safe to say the Odinforce can produce an EMP attack on that level. If Xorn did it, the Odinforce should be able to.

I find it hard to believe that a force as fundamental to the universe as the Phoenix Force being almost completely destroyed by an EMP attack isn't PIS. And at the height of its power, the Phoenix Force >>> Odin Force.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I find it hard to believe that a force as fundamental to the universe as the Phoenix Force being almost completely destroyed by an EMP attack isn't PIS. And at the height of its power, the Phoenix Force >>> Odin Force. Any high level Phoenix is beyond Thor

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I find it hard to believe that a force as fundamental to the universe as the Phoenix Force being almost completely destroyed by an EMP attack isn't PIS. And at the height of its power, the Phoenix Force >>> Odin Force.

How do we know this? Using only canon showings, Odinforce has infinitely better feats than the Phoenix Force. Hell the Odinforce has more impressive fights than the Phoenix Force too. And unlike the PF, the OF has never been shattered into a billion billion pieces and almost died.

I am baffled. I hate Jean Grey and the Phoenix Force and I still know that the Phoenix Force sabotaged itself in Morrisons Planet X arc. Jean Grey had to die so she could ascend and carry out her Phoenix work. Jean Grey even says that she's not sure how long the PF will allow her to stay.

Phoenix Force curbstomps.

Pheonix

OF Thor wins. We've already seen him shut down the world's media signals and whatever else he did (maybe electricticity? Can't recall) during that Captain America "death" tribute. That seemed liked a pretty casual use of power from him. He could shut down so many things on a planetary level if he had wanted to that the Zopzop theory sounds plausable.

Originally posted by Kasper Gutman
OF Thor wins. We've already seen him shut down the world's media signals and whatever else he did (maybe electricticity? Can't recall) during that Captain America "death" tribute. That seemed liked a pretty casual use of power from him. He could shut down so many things on a planetary level if he had wanted to that the Zopzop theory sounds plausable.

Casual?

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2818/xmtdps125go3.jpg

Sorry, does that scan have anything to do with the Captain America death tribute? Think we're talking about two different things.

Phoenix would win

Thor once defeated racheal summers he used an antiblast against her and she fell down badly injured...Thor wont get down easy, if thor used his Godblast against phoenix maybe he can defeat her, also if he used his other divine poweres. Rune lord thor will probably own phoenix... he was effectively omnipotent. Pluse thors Godblast the maximum damage it can do is rip the fabric of the universe...so yeah myabe he can slay phoenix if he used his godblast...thor can also destroy galaxies with his godblast..

Originally posted by ozz81
Thor once defeated racheal summers he used an antiblast against her and she fell down badly injured...Thor wont get down easy, if thor used his Godblast against phoenix maybe he can defeat her, also if he used his other divine poweres. Rune lord thor will probably own phoenix... he was effectively omnipotent. Pluse thors Godblast the maximum damage it can do is rip the fabric of the universe...so yeah myabe he can slay phoenix if he used his godblast...thor can also destroy galaxies with his godblast..

Rachael also defeated Galactus. Doubt if a Godblast would do much damage. Phoenix is abstract which is above skyfather.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Rachael also defeated Galactus. Doubt if a Godblast would do much damage. Phoenix is abstract which is above skyfather.

But she's been put down by much, much less than a Godblast. Xorn almost killed the actual PF with an EMP attack.

Originally posted by zopzop
But she's been put down by much, much less than a Godblast. Xorn almost killed the actual PF with an EMP attack.

You just won't leave that alone huh?

I'd rather talk about how Rachael overloaded Necrom (a dude casually tossing planets while turning them into suns) and spread his atoms thru space.

Thor nor Odin himself can even be mentioned in the same tone as anyone in this scan:

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/392/1659274abstractssuperce.jpg

phoenix ftw

Originally posted by Sundipped
Thor nor Odin himself can even be mentioned in the same tone as anyone in this scan:

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/392/1659274abstractssuperce.jpg http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g340/Fernando072295/Scan10186.jpg http://images.killermovies.com/forums/customsmilies/biscuits.gif

Originally posted by Sundipped
Thor nor Odin himself can even be mentioned in the same tone as anyone in this scan:

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/392/1659274abstractssuperce.jpg Who is LT and Eternity bowing to anyways? Stranger or Jean?

thor is out of his league here..

and x-men forever isn't continuity i believe

at Damborgson :- wow that pics amazing did odin defeat galactus , what actually happened in that commic?

Originally posted by ozz81
at Damborgson :- wow that pics amazing did odin defeat galactus , what actually happened in that commic?

Odin koed himself and Galactus recovered immediately like nothing happened. His helmet and everything was completely restored.

Ok cool , but what happend to galactus next does he retreat or not or how does thor deal with him???

Originally posted by Damborgson
http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g340/Fernando072295/Scan10186.jpg http://images.killermovies.com/forums/customsmilies/biscuits.gif

Ha Ha very funny. Now he's in Odinsleep. Big G's like where'd he go?

Originally posted by guy222


and x-men forever isn't continuity i believe


All concepts and fundamental duties of the abstract forces still remain the same tho.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Who is LT and Eternity bowing to anyways? Stranger or Jean?

Stranger. It's really a future vision of Stranger to have all concepts bowing before him after he erases current reality and recreates it with him being the only one remaining.