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Doomsday & Ulik VS Vision

No prep/bfr. Vision is not holding back whatsoever & utilizes his phasing powers without restraint.











who wins?

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i don't get it

Vision can probably kill Ulik by crushing his brain or his heart. Now that leaves Doomsday. Which version is it? If it's DoS Doomsday, Vision can probably eek out a few wins. If it's any other version, Vision stands no chance. At least he can go intangible and it's an endless stalemate.

I see Vision beating DoS Doomsday/Ulik for the majority. Vision doesn't get enough respect on these boards.

DOS DD is too hard for Vision.

Originally posted by h1a8
DOS DD is too hard for Vision.

Jumpy

Originally posted by zopzop


Jumpy
He is. The moment vision tries that trick on DD the moment he koes himself.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/visionjuggs2.jpg

Vision tried the trick on Hulk and others and it didn't work. Also How was Hulk able to hit Vision when he was messing with Juggs? Is it because Vision was hardening himself in which anyone (including DD) could do if Vision decided to mess with them?

@psycho gundam

Hulk sucker punched a solidifying Vision that had Juggernaut on his knees. Not a bad feat for Vision. Shows that his intangibility trick works even on a Cl100 brick who is supposed to be "invulnerable".

@h1a8
The OP states : Vision is not holding back whatsoever & utilizes his phasing powers without restraint. That means he doesn't gently solidify to KO an opponent, he can go from intangible to "10 times the mass of depleted Uranium" and literally crush their brains or heart with his fist.

Originally posted by zopzop
@psycho gundam

Hulk sucker punched a solidifying Vision that had Juggernaut on his knees. Not a bad feat for Vision. Shows that his intangibility trick works even on a Cl100 brick who is supposed to be "invulnerable".

@h1a8
The OP states : Vision is not holding back whatsoever & utilizes his phasing powers without restraint. That means he doesn't gently solidify to KO an opponent, he can go from intangible to "10 times the mass of depleted Uranium" and literally crush their brains or heart with his fist.

three things

1. Didn't work on Hulk and other very durables when Vision tried it.
2. Juggs is indestructible so the feat was PIS (for two reasons).
3. DD is fast and relentless, the moment vision tries it he will be eating bony protrusions immediately.

Originally posted by h1a8
three things

1. Didn't work on Hulk and other very durables when Vision tried it.
2. Juggs is indestructible so the feat was PIS (for two reasons).
3. DD is fast and relentless, the moment vision tries it he will be eating bony protrusions immediately.

1) It doesn't "work" against other "durables" because Vision goes gentle to KO not kill them. The OP said Vision is NOT holding back and using his intangibility powers to their full effect

2) It's not like this is the first time an "invulnerable" character was hurt. Nightcrawler hurt him with a torch and Shatterstar cut out his eye.

3) At 10 times the mass of depleted Uranium I'm sure he can take a few hits from DoS Doomsday. Goes intangible, puts his fist through DDs face, then instantly goes to max density. If that don't work, just go intangible and the fight ends in a stalemate. Nothing DD can do to him, but at least Ulik would be dead.

Originally posted by zopzop
1) It doesn't "work" against other "durables" because Vision goes gentle to KO not kill them. The OP said Vision is NOT holding back and using his intangibility powers to their full effect

2) It's not like this is the first time an "invulnerable" character was hurt. Nightcrawler hurt him with a torch and Shatterstar cut out his eye.

3) At 10 times the mass of depleted Uranium I'm sure he can take a few hits from DoS Doomsday. Goes intangible, puts his fist through DDs face, then instantly goes to max density. If that don't work, just go intangible and the fight ends in a stalemate. Nothing DD can do to him, but at least Ulik would be dead.


1. Going gentle has nothing to do with why it didn't work. Read the comics for crying out loud. Their bodies were too tough and it actually hurt Vision more than it did them.

2. That is why we got the PIS rule. It isn't allowed.

3. The problem is that vision can't try all the scenarios at the same time (but one at a time). He doesn't know if it will work or not so HE WILL TRY. The moment he tries then the moment DD is pummeling him to ko or death.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Going gentle has nothing to do with why it didn't work. Read the comics for crying out loud. Their bodies were too tough and it actually hurt Vision more than it did them.

Proof? What issue? Scans?



It's happened repeatedly. How many times does it have to happen for it not to be considered PIS?



He's going all out. All he has to "try" is go intangible, pass through them, then turn 10 times denser than depleted Uranium. Then the fun starts.