Superman heat vision

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Colossus-Big C
Superman sits there and concentrates a full powered heat vision at these guys heads for 1 hour. No holding back at all.
What happens

1. Thor
2. Doomsday
3. Black adam
4. Wonder woman
5. Superboy prim
6. Silver surfer
7. Hulk

Digi
I hope that list is ordered.

Colossus-Big C
Its not

Enzeru
In myyyyyyyyy opinion ...

The following characters would be harmed, but could ignore it:
Doomsday
Superboy-Prime (Pre Teen Titans BS)

The following characters would scream in agony, but could handle it:
Thor
Wonder Woman

The following characters wouldn't be able to handle the damage and go down after a whole while:
Black Adam (besides WW3 not very impressive)
Silver Surfer (great durability, but it's not really his main defense, since he has other abilities to recover from damage)

The following character would go down very quickly:
Hulk since he does not have any invulnerability and the Heat Vision would instantly start harming him and probably burn away his face and probably knock him out, before he would reach the needed level to start healing against the damage ... basically similar to his confrontation with Gladiator, but in this case even with far more damage)

Existere
Originally posted by Enzeru
In myyyyyyyyy opinion ...

The following characters would be harmed, but could ignore it:
Doomsday
Superboy-Prime (Pre Teen Titans BS)

The following characters would scream in agony, but could handle it:
Thor
Wonder Woman

The following characters wouldn't be able to handle the damage and go down after a whole while:
Black Adam (besides WW3 not very impressive)
Silver Surfer (great durability, but it's not really his main defense, since he has other abilities to recover from damage)

The following character would go down very quickly:
Hulk since he does not have any invulnerability and the Heat Vision would instantly start harming him and probably burn away his face and probably knock him out, before he would reach the needed level to start healing against the damage ... basically similar to his confrontation with Gladiator, but in this case even with far more damage) There's a number of things that leap out here as being 'lolwut', but the biggest by far is ranking Surfer's energy durability as being below Thor, Diana's or (depending on the incarnation) Doomsday.

Colossus-Big C
I was assuming everyone would be dead

Mindship
I've never seen Surfer harmed by any degree of heat. If anything, extremes of temperature are exactly the type of thing his galactic glaze is supposed to protect him against.

If Superman really wants to hurt Surfer, punching him is his best option.

Enzeru
Originally posted by Existere
There's a number of things that leap out here as being 'lolwut', but the biggest by far is ranking Surfer's energy durability as being below Thor, Diana's or (depending on the incarnation) Doomsday.

I actually saw it more as a complete durability test and ignored Silver Surfer's ability to deal with energy.
Besides that, I see Thor being more durable then the Silver Surfer and that's why I placed him above Silver Surfer.

SuperiorTech
Originally posted by Enzeru
In myyyyyyyyy opinion ...



The following character would go down very quickly:
Hulk since he does not have any invulnerability and the Heat Vision would instantly start harming him and probably burn away his face and probably knock him out, before he would reach the needed level to start healing against the damage ... basically similar to his confrontation with Gladiator, but in this case even with far more damage)


Not the best example to use from what I can remember That's from the post-Onslaught period when Hulk was separated from Bruce he was getting progressively weaker to the point where Dead-pool pierced him with a signpost.

Enzeru
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Not the best example to use from what I can remember That's from the post-Onslaught period when Hulk was separated from Bruce he was getting progressively weaker to the point where Dead-pool pierced him with a signpost.

It still applies that Hulk does not have invulnerability, but just a damn good healing factor which makes it look like he has invulnerability.

Do you personally think that the Hulk can take Superman's FULL heat vision to the face, if Superman is not holding back?

I don't.

Existere
Originally posted by Enzeru
I actually saw it more as a complete durability test and ignored Silver Surfer's ability to deal with energy.
Besides that, I see Thor being more durable then the Silver Surfer and that's why I placed him above Silver Surfer. OP is pretty specific about the trial the characters are undergoing: they get blasted for an hour with heat vision. Surfer is arguably the most well-equipped character on this list (sans possibly Prime, your mileage may vary) to deal with that.

Enzeru
Originally posted by Existere
Surfer is arguably the most well-equipped character on this list

No doubt in that one.

SuperiorTech
Originally posted by Enzeru
It still applies that Hulk does not have invulnerability, but just a damn good healing factor which makes it look like he has invulnerability.

Do you personally think that the Hulk can take Superman's FULL heat vision to the face, if Superman is not holding back?

I don't.

Hulk has a very high resistance to Heat most recent example would be him withstanding Apollo while going up Mount Olympus to face Zeus or being completely unharmed from point blank Nova blast from Human Torch.Hulk's natural durability plus ridiculous healing factor combine to place him higher on the list than you have him.

carver9
Originally posted by Enzeru
It still applies that Hulk does not have invulnerability, but just a damn good healing factor which makes it look like he has invulnerability.

Do you personally think that the Hulk can take Superman's FULL heat vision to the face, if Superman is not holding back?

I don't.

Hulk is completely immune to heat.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk is completely immune to heat. And you base this on?

JakeTheBank
Full powered non holding back heat vision for an hour directed at their heads?

He likely kills everyone on that list.

OneDumbG0
Originally posted by Existere
OP is pretty specific about the trial the characters are undergoing: they get blasted for an hour with heat vision. Surfer is arguably the most well-equipped character on this list (sans possibly Prime, your mileage may vary) to deal with that. thumb up Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Full powered non holding back heat vision for an hour directed at their heads?

He likely kills everyone on that list. thumb up

carver9
Originally posted by Parmaniac
And you base this on?

Withdranding a warp core bomb point blank in the face. Withstanding Ghost Riders hellfire along with human torch going nova. Smiling during entering reentry. The list goes on. WWH was never impacted by heat.



resist GR's powerful hellfire explosion

http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14tb3.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15pq0.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16uh0.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jo7.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18se9.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=19ho7.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20ej0.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=21wk9.jpg

Vs Human torch nova

http://img176.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=95399_AA-WWH02-019_122_115lo.jpg
http://img125.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=95401_AA-WWH02-020-21_122_619lo.jpg
http://img45.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=95410_AA-WWH02-022_122_800lo.jpg
http://img148.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=95422_AA-WWH02-023_122_1084lo.jpg

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by carver9
Withdranding a warp core bomb point blank in the face. Withstanding Ghost Riders hellfire along with human torch going nova. Smiling during entering reentry. The list goes on. WWH was never impacted by heat.



resist GR's powerful hellfire explosion

http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14tb3.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15pq0.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16uh0.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17jo7.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18se9.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=19ho7.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20ej0.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=21wk9.jpg

Vs Human torch nova

http://img176.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=95399_AA-WWH02-019_122_115lo.jpg
http://img125.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=95401_AA-WWH02-020-21_122_619lo.jpg
http://img45.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=95410_AA-WWH02-022_122_800lo.jpg
http://img148.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=95422_AA-WWH02-023_122_1084lo.jpg

None of what you posted is equal to Superman's heat vision at maximum power, let alone directed at Hulk's head for an hour.

Enzeru
Carver is wrong anyway:

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4193/worldwarhulkxmen002006.th.jpg

Superman would burn more then just Hulk's skin and hair.

Existere
Not that Scott's optic blasts are, you know, heat-based...

carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
None of what you posted is equal to Superman's heat vision at maximum power, let alone directed at Hulk's head for an hour.

Why isn't it? Human torch went Nova on him. Temperatures hotter than the core of the Sun. Then let's not forget this.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh019.jpg

Hulk was submerged in heats that were described as being hotter than a million suns and he withstood it for an entire fight. Heat doesn't work on Hulk...at all. Heat Vision is powerful, I agree...but Hulk durability is more powerful.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by carver9
Why isn't it? Human torch went Nova on him. Temperatures hotter than the core of the Sun. Then let's not forget this.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh019.jpg

Hulk was emerged in heats that were described as being hotter than a million suns and he withstood it for an entire fight. Heat doesn't work on Hulk...at all. Heat Vision is powerful, I agree...but Hulk durability is more powerful.

Because if Torch really did go all out on Hulk, he'd have set the ozone layer ablaze. Hellfire sears the soul and is a mystic means of attack.

If you really think Hulk no sold the heat of a million suns, you need professional help. Leave the hyperbole at home.

carver9
Originally posted by Enzeru
Carver is wrong anyway:

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4193/worldwarhulkxmen002006.th.jpg

Superman would burn more then just Hulk's skin and hair.

Hulks healing factor was tampered with that entire fight and Scott blast is MUCH more than just an heat based attack.

What else do you have?

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by carver9
Hulks healing factor was tampered with that entire fight and Scott blast is MUCH more than just an heat based attack.

What else do you have?

It's not portrayed as heat at all, traditionally.

It's concussive force.

Superman's heat vision also boasts massive concussive force if he lays it on.

Either way, I hope you're not trying to, in a round about way, argue Scott's optic blast > Superman's heat vision.

Enzeru
Originally posted by Existere
Not that Scott's optic blasts are, you know, heat-based...

It has nothing to do with the heat. It's the amount of damage I had in mind.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulks healing factor was tampered with that entire fight and Scott blast is MUCH more than just an heat based attack.
What else do you have?

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4474/blast3dj7.jpg

Superman is capable of inflicting more damage than that.

carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Because if Torch really did go all out on Hulk, he'd have set the ozone layer ablaze. Hellfire sears the soul and is a mystic means of attack.

If you really think Hulk no sold the heat of a million suns, you need professional help. Leave the hyperbole at home.

It was stated on panel Human Torch went Nova.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/confirmationoftorchnova.jpg

Stop using real world logic for a comic book Jake. We all know better than this.

I believe Sentry went all out on Hulk and His heat based attack did crap.

carver9
Originally posted by Enzeru
It has nothing to do with the heat. It's the amount of damage I had in mind.



http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4474/blast3dj7.jpg

Superman is capable of inflicting more damage than that.

Lol...a full power blast from Scott has as of yet to be measured. The only quote we have on how powerful a full powered blast from Scott was during the time he used it against Juggernaut and it was stated as being powerful enough to rip a planet in half.

carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It's not portrayed as heat at all, traditionally.

It's concussive force.

Superman's heat vision also boasts massive concussive force if he lays it on.

Either way, I hope you're not trying to, in a round about way, argue Scott's optic blast > Superman's heat vision.

Never said that.

Superman heatvision never did what Scott heat vision has done. Didn't Scott bfr Gorgon (Blackbolts Gorgon) from New York to Georgia that located in another continent? Superman concussive force doesn't match that at all and Scott was holding back.

As for the heat part, Superman heat vision by far is hotter but like I stated before, Hulk healing factor was being tampered with during the time on numerous of occasions and that was more than mere heat Scott was attacking him with.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by carver9
It was stated on panel Human Torch went Nova.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/confirmationoftorchnova.jpg

Stop using real world logic for a comic book Jake. We all know better than this.

I believe Sentry went all out on Hulk and His heat based attack did crap.

You're being ridiculous, Carv.

Nova from Johnny <<<< full powered no holding back heat vision burst from Superman. The fact he can directly use his heat vision beyond the epidermis and can directly attack the brain must also not mean anything.

I'm not using real world logic, I'm using the comic book logic which is based off of psuedo-real world logic and science. And Johnny can't go all out less he potentially set the world on fire. He can come close and can go all out as far as going just short of destroying the ozone layer, but that's it and that's been a Fantastic Four factoid for years.

Sorry, Sentry never displayed the power of one exploding sun, let alone millions. Don't use your scans as evidence that Hulk can legitimately endure that kind of hyperbolic power, because we know he can't.

Enzeru
Originally posted by carver9
I believe Sentry went all out on Hulk and His heat based attack did crap.

-___-"

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Sorry, Sentry never displayed the power of one exploding sun, let alone millions.

Ou he did. Won't be talking for the millions, but one sun should be in.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by carver9
Superman heatvision never did what Scott heat vision has done.

Phucking lulz.

bbrem123
Originally posted by Enzeru
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Ou he did. Won't talking for the millions, but one sun should be in.
argeed

carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Phucking lulz.

So you can show me Superman heat vision knocking someone from one continent to another?

I'll be waiting.

carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You're being ridiculous, Carv.

Nova from Johnny <<<< full powered no holding back heat vision burst from Superman. The fact he can directly use his heat vision beyond the epidermis and can directly attack the brain must also not mean anything.

I'm not using real world logic, I'm using the comic book logic which is based off of psuedo-real world logic and science. And Johnny can't go all out less he potentially set the world on fire. He can come close and can go all out as far as going just short of destroying the ozone layer, but that's it and that's been a Fantastic Four factoid for years.

Sorry, Sentry never displayed the power of one exploding sun, let alone millions. Don't use your scans as evidence that Hulk can legitimately endure that kind of hyperbolic power, because we know he can't.

OMG...Jake, "its stated on panel Human Torch went Nova". What more do you want? It was never stated that he held back...hell, it was stated he "wasn't" going to hold back and was there to drop him. HT used so much power against Hulk that he koed himself. He wasn't holding back JAKE.

Stop applying real world logic to a comic book.

I feel pretty much safe to say that Sentry is more powerful than Supes, especially his energetic powers that were described as being capable of destroying worlds (while holding hack).

If Sentry going all out was unable to damage Hulk with heat based attacks...I can't see Superman doing any different with heat vision.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by carver9
So you can show me Superman heat vision knocking someone from one continent to another?

I'll he waiting.

Superman's heat vision can extend to the moon and literally cannot be measured by any scientific means in the DCU and they're able to measure the temperature of the sun. He's broken through barriers Green Lanterns couldn't with his heat vision, powered huge engines capable of moving planets, etc.

His vision absolutely shits on Cyclops.

Rage.Of.Olympus
From my understanding, Superman's heat vision drains his endurance the most out of all his powers. At it's peak, it's undoubtedly a high herald level energy blast but it's power output drops from that point.

Everyone besides Wonder Woman and I guess Black Adam could withstand the initial assault which is the worst. Their durability should hold up for the rest of the hour from that point. All would be hurting, some worse than others.

If the intent is for the character's listed to survive a full power dose for an extended time, then few if any survive.

Parmaniac
Cyclops doesn't have heat vision

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Cyclops doesn't have heat vision

http://comicwallpaper.net/images/wallpapers/Cyclops%20Marvel%20Comics-934005.jpeg

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by carver9
OMG...Jake, "its stated on panel Human Torch went Nova". What more do you want? It was never stated that he held back...hell, it was stated he "wasn't" going to hold back and was there to drop him. HT used so much power against Hulk that he koed himself. He wasn't holding back JAKE.

Stop applying real world logic to a comic book.

I feel pretty much safe to say that Sentry is more powerful than Supes, especially his energetic powers that were described as being capable of destroying worlds (while holding hack).

If Sentry going all out was unable to damage Hulk with heat based attacks...I can't see Superman doing any different with heat vision.

Duh, he went all out as safely as he could. But it's common knowledge that if Johnny truly just said "eff it" and went to his maximum temp, he could very easily set the o-zone on fire. It's been a recurring plot point in the comics themselves. The fact that he didn't set the o-zone on fire is proof that he didn't use his 100% maximum level of power ever. He used a lot of firepower, obviously, but seeing as Marvel Earth is still around, not his full disposal.

I'm not.

Depending on the period of time you're citing his feats from, sure. Superman can destroy worlds as well (while holding back).

Sentry didn't pour forth all of his energy and directed at Hulk's head for an hour, either.

cdtm
Heat vision was the only attack that had an effect on Black Adam.. Mongul, who could tank Supermans punches, claimed a full dose of HV would kill him. In Hunter/Prey, his HV was the only thing that actually phased Doomsday, after he evolved past energy users like Doomsday and the Radiant. And didn't Superman penetrate Darkseids impenetrable barrier in Final Crisis with his HV?

If not for CIS, he could probably win almost every fight with a comparable brick using HV.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
http://comicwallpaper.net/images/wallpapers/Cyclops%20Marvel%20Comics-934005.jpeg

Yeah, that's his optic blast which has been described as and portrayed for the vast majority of his career as concussive force. Heat, at best, is probably a side effect from the impact of the blast. It certainly isn't the primary component.

Enzeru
Originally posted by carver9
OMG...Jake, "its stated on panel Human Torch went Nova". What more do you want?

Did you see who said it? Wasn't it a random cop who said it? What does a random cop actually know about superheroes and their powerlevels? If anything, the cop was simply overhyping it, to strike fear into the hearts of men and pull them back. LoL!

Originally posted by carver9
I feel pretty much safe to say that Sentry is more powerful than Supes, especially his energetic powers that were described as being capable of destroying worlds (while holding hack).

If Sentry going all out was unable to damage Hulk with heat based attacks...I can't see Superman doing any different with heat vision.

Yes, Sentry can destroy planets and even more.
But how can you think that he went totally out in his fight against WW Hulk?
Yes, he went totally out in that particular fight, but his power level was damn low, because of his agoraphobia and it was only enough to start busting the city.

And Hulk had problems dealing even with that.
For more information, read my huge post in the "Sentry VS Superman" thread, where I wrote few things about Sentry's power level.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Cyclop's optic blasts aren't heat based but there have definitely been times in continuity when it's been treated like heat vision. That's just sloppy writing though imo. Tbf, it was once stated that heat is a side effect of his optic blast, IIRC he heated up an object by using kinetic energy or something.

Parmaniac
It was very likely a nova blast cause he passed out after it, what he usually does after a nova blast.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Cyclop's optic blasts aren't heat based but there have definitely been times in continuity when it's been treated like heat vision. That's just sloppy writing though imo. Tbf, it was once stated that heat is a side effect of his optic blast, IIRC he heated up an object by using kinetic energy or something.

thumb up

Yeah, at best it's a side effect of his discharge but it's not the primary source of the energy.

Rage.Of.Olympus
It was a concentrated Nova Blast further empowered by Storm's lightning bolt. All in all, a pretty good durability feat for Hulk as he wasn't even phased.

He also withstood Sentry's energy projection, even when concentrated on him. Say what you will about the character, but he's still crazy powerful, undoubtedly an elite in raw power (Possibly higher at times) even without the Void. At least when confident.

carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Superman's heat vision can extend to the moon and literally cannot be measured by any scientific means in the DCU and they're able to measure the temperature of the sun. He's broken through barriers Green Lanterns couldn't with his heat vision, powered huge engines capable of moving planets, etc.

His vision absolutely shits on Cyclops.

Ooookkkkaaayyyy...Gladiator heat vision has been stated as being hotter than temperatures of stars, even stalemated Tyrant eye blast attack temporarily and he stool couldn't drop a weakened Hulk with his heat vision.

Green Lantern? Their constructs isn't as powerful as people tend to make them out to be...people from Lobo, Grundy to numerous of other has busted them. They have uber showing but majority of the time...Naah.

How much energy was required to powered this engine?

Colossus-Big C
isnt hulks durability like his strength? it Increases with anger/duration of fight?

Rage.Of.Olympus
It does.

cdtm
Gladiators HV stopping short of Hulks heart is PIS.

As PIS as all of his fights with Hulk, where he forgets he's vastly faster and stronger than most versions.

Colossus-Big C
wouldnt that mean he would be at his lowest since this isnt a fight or isnt getting angry?

Enzeru
Originally posted by carver9
Ooookkkkaaayyyy...Gladiator heat vision has been stated as being hotter than temperatures of stars, even stalemated Tyrant eye blast attack temporarily and he stool couldn't drop a weakened Hulk with his heat vision.

What? Didn't Gladiator burn Hulk so greatly with his Heat Vision, that you could literally see Hulks heart, before he managed to grab Gladiator and start healing again?

And these are two hours of Superman's Heat Vision in the face! Hulk won't be able to endure that.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by carver9
Ooookkkkaaayyyy...Gladiator heat vision has been stated as being hotter than temperatures of stars, even stalemated Tyrant eye blast attack temporarily and he stool couldn't drop a weakened Hulk with his heat vision.

Green Lantern? Their constructs isn't as powerful as people tend to make them out to be...people from Lobo, Grundy to numerous of other has busted them. They have uber showing but majority of the time...Naah.

How much energy was required to powered this engine?

Gladiator is also significantly inferior to Superman, so any semblance of a point you were trying to make is lost. Superman has better heat vision feats than Gladiator and he wouldn't have been merced like Glads was, either.

WTF. Lobo and Grundy are pretty powerful beings so them breaking GL constructs don't, as a result, make constructs weak.

Well, they were designed to move planets, so I'd imagine a lot.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Gladiator is also significantly inferior to Superman. Gladiator=Superman

Parmaniac
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
WTF. Lobo and Grundy are pretty powerful beings so them breaking GL constructs don't, as a result, make constructs weak. While I agree with this, I agree with him if his point is that Lantern constructs, or better said Lanterns in general, are not what they used to be.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Gladiator=Superman

In his wet dreams, maybe.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by cdtm
Gladiators HV stopping short of Hulks heart is PIS.

As PIS as all of his fights with Hulk, where he forgets he's vastly faster and stronger than most versions.

Gladiator starts out noticeably stronger than Grey Hulk, that's about it.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
In his wet dreams, maybe. He has legit planet busting feats, he also wrecked the core of a star

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Gladiator is also significantly inferior to Superman

Imho, Gladiator and Superman would be on par like 90% of the time.

Don't get me wrong, Carver can be an idiot but the character is regarded highly from what I've seen.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
He has legit planet busting feats, he also wrecked the core of a star

"Legit". Gladiator beating up an planetoid with no defined size or mass is by no means a "legit" planet busting feat.

You are aware of everything Superman has done, though, right? I get that you really don't like Superman, but you still have to acknowledge his feats, which at the end of the day, are superior to Gladiator by a decent margin. And that's without his absurd high end bullshit.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Imho, Gladiator and Superman would be on par like 90% of the time.

Don't get me wrong, Carver can be an idiot but the character is regarded highly from what I've seen.

They would be on par roughly with the edge to Clark until he was pushed to end it, yeah, much like how Gladiator fares against Thor.

And if Carv and others want to immediately go to Gladiator's best and most impressive feats in a comparison against Superman, it's akin to kamikazing yourself. I know it burns some people, but Gladiator isn't equipped for high end feat wars with Thor or Superman.

cdtm
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Gladiator starts out noticeably stronger than Grey Hulk, that's about it.

According to another poster named.. Carver, I think? He's vastly stronger than Thor. (Not saying I subscribe to his theory personally, mind..)

Which means he pretty much has to admit any Hulk short of Worldbreaker manhandling Glads is PIS. wink

I mean, Thor and Hulk were peers in strength, so if he wants to argue Glads is > Thor, logically it follows that Glads is > any Hulk that Thor can match. Therefore any Glads vs Hulk argument should be tossed out as PIS. ^_^


Which leaves us with arguing how Supermans HV would affect Hulk based on feats, and not some PISy Glads vs Hulk showing.

Existere
Originally posted by carver9
Superman heatvision never did what Scott heat vision has done. Scott leveled a forest.

Superman used heat vision to drill to the center of the earth.

Hmm.

carver9
Originally posted by Enzeru
Did you see who said it? Wasn't it a random cop who said it? What does a random cop actually know about superheroes and their powerlevels? If anything, the cop was simply overhyping it, to strike fear into the hearts of men and pull them back. LoL!



Yes, Sentry can destroy planets and even more.
But how can you think that he went totally out in his fight against WW Hulk?
Yes, he went totally out in that particular fight, but his power level was damn low, because of his agoraphobia and it was only enough to start busting the city.

And Hulk had problems dealing even with that.
For more information, read my huge post in the "Sentry VS Superman" thread, where I wrote few things about Sentry's power level.

The writer said it...Human Torch went Nova. The guy passed out after blasting Hulk with everything he had.

Sentry admitted he went all out...again, what more proof do you need? Another thing...Sentry NEVER displayed that type of power after his fight against WWH. Sentry wasn't pulling any strings.

Zack Fair
Originally posted by Existere
Scott leveled a forest.

Superman used heat vision to drill to the center of the earth.

Hmm.

Checkmate.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Existere
Scott leveled a forest.

Superman used heat vision to drill to the center of the earth.

Hmm.

http://www.sembeo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Respect-200x300.jpg

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Existere
Scott leveled a forest.

Superman used heat vision to drill to the center of the earth.

Hmm. Thats not a great feat, all he has to do is penetrate the dirt and the core is already hot and melted.

Cyclops feat > That

but i do admit supermans heat vision may be more powerful

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Thats not a great feat, all he has to do is penetrate the dirt and the core is already hot and melted.

Cyclops feat > That

but i do admit supermans heat vision may be more powerful

...

no expression

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
They would be on par roughly with the edge to Clark until he was pushed to end it, yeah, much like how Gladiator fares against Thor.

And if Carv and others want to immediately go to Gladiator's best and most impressive feats in a comparison against Superman, it's akin to kamikazing yourself. I know it burns some people, but Gladiator isn't equipped for high end feat wars with Thor or Superman.

I think they would be roughly on par until something pushes Superman enough to give him the edge. I don't see Clark having any advantage during most of the exchange. Just my personal opinion, but that's how I feel it would go.

True enough.

Zack Fair
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Thats not a great feat, all he has to do is penetrate the dirt and the core is already hot and melted.

Cyclops feat > That

but i do admit supermans heat vision may be more powerful

http://gallery.nekito.net/albums/album05/Angel_Confused.gif

carver9
Originally posted by Existere
Scott leveled a forest.

Superman used heat vision to drill to the center of the earth.

Hmm.

So you don't think Scott can drill through some dirt? Is this what you are telling me? A guy that knocked a 100tonner from one Continent to another can't drill through some dirt?

Parmaniac
I love Colossus big C

Existere
Originally posted by carver9
So you don't think Scott can drill through some dirt? Is this what you are telling me? A guy that knocked a 100tonner from one Continent to another can't drill through some dirt? Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Thats not a great feat, all he has to do is penetrate the dirt and the core is already hot and melted.
While I'm really in no place to argue with geophysicists such as yourselves, I'm pretty sure that the earth is made up of more than a hot sphere wrapped in top soil.

You're the experts though.

Zack Fair
Carv...facepalm

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by carver9
So you don't think Scott can drill through some dirt? Is this what you are telling me? A guy that knocked a 100tonner from one Continent to another can't drill through some dirt?

Do you really think that the only thing between us and the center of the Earth is some dirt?

Could you really be that ignorant?

There's really no excuse for this shit unless you've only received like an elementary school level education.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by carver9
So you don't think Scott can drill through some dirt? Is this what you are telling me? A guy that knocked a 100tonner from one Continent to another can't drill through some dirt? http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/graphics/FigS1-1.gif

Some dirt eh?

carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
They would be on par roughly with the edge to Clark until he was pushed to end it, yeah, much like how Gladiator fares against Thor.

And if Carv and others want to immediately go to Gladiator's best and most impressive feats in a comparison against Superman, it's akin to kamikazing yourself. I know it burns some people, but Gladiator isn't equipped for high end feat wars with Thor or Superman.

WTF. You are seriously underestimating the character. The ONLY Herald I would give an edge against Gladiator is Thor.

carver9
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Do you really think that the only thing between us and the center of the Earth is some dirt?

Could you really be that ignorant?

There's really no excuse for this shit unless you've only received like an elementary school level education.

laughing out loud

I understand the point you are making but like I've stated, Scott heat Vision has damaged high end beings...he can replicate the ft.

How far did Superman drill?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by carver9
WTF. You are seriously underestimating the character. The ONLY Herald I would give an edge against Gladiator is Thor.

Superman, Hulk, Surfer, Black Bolt, Shaman Nate Grey and a slew of other characters would take the majority over Gladiator.

carver9
Originally posted by Parmaniac
http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/graphics/FigS1-1.gif

Some dirt eh?

I know this. Still don't see anything Scott can not replicate.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by carver9
laughing out loud

I understand the point you are making but like I've stated, Scott heat Vision has damaged high end beings...he can replicate the ft.

How far did Superman drill?

In your opinion.

The centre of the Earth apparently.

For the record, I think most highly durable beings (Thor, Superman, Surfer etc.) would tank Cyclop's energy attacks in modern continuity.

Existere
Originally posted by carver9
laughing out loud

I understand the point you are making but like I've stated, Scott heat Vision has damaged high end beings...he can replicate the ft.

How far did Superman drill? Adeventures of Superman #618

Holding a small piece of a white dwarf star (apparently weighing like 100 tons or something), Superman drilled to the center of the earth with heat vision and then proceeded to rapidly heat and cool the star shard in order to simulate gravity across the earth, as Mxy has turned it off.

So yeah, pretty much on par with taking out a Sentinel, amirite? mmm

carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Gladiator is also significantly inferior to Superman, so any semblance of a point you were trying to make is lost. Superman has better heat vision feats than Gladiator and he wouldn't have been merced like Glads was, either.

WTF. Lobo and Grundy are pretty powerful beings so them breaking GL constructs don't, as a result, make constructs weak.

Well, they were designed to move planets, so I'd imagine a lot.

I'm not impressed by GL constructs. They get broken through on a regular basis.

Even though they were designed to move planets doesn't mean that it takes a lot of power to start it up.

How much power was required to start the engines? Sentry held the cosmic cube. How much power did it take to do that?

carver9
Originally posted by Existere
Adeventures of Superman #618

Holding a small piece of a white dwarf star (apparently weighing like 100 tons or something), Superman drilled to the center of the earth with heat vision and then proceeded to rapidly heat and cool the star shard in order to simulate gravity across the earth, as Mxy has turned it off.

So yeah, pretty much on par with taking out a Sentinel, amirite? mmm

Never said that Superman couldn't drill through Earth. A lot of beings are capable of doing this and Scott is one of them. I would put Superman heat vision over "any" man made drill.

carver9
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
In your opinion.

The centre of the Earth apparently.

For the record, I think most highly durable beings (Thor, Superman, Surfer etc.) would tank Cyclop's energy attacks in modern continuity.

Tank? In the beginning they would feel it imo but then they would power through it.

cdtm
Originally posted by Existere
Adeventures of Superman #618

Holding a small piece of a white dwarf star (apparently weighing like 100 tons or something), Superman drilled to the center of the earth with heat vision and then proceeded to rapidly heat and cool the star shard in order to simulate gravity across the earth, as Mxy has turned it off.

So yeah, pretty much on par with taking out a Sentinel, amirite? mmm

Don't forget about the time he sealed up a rift in space...

Or half a rift, as Orion and his Astro Force were handling the other half.

carver9
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman, Hulk, Surfer, Black Bolt, Shaman Nate Grey and a slew of other characters would take the majority over Gladiator.

In your opinion buddy. I think Gladiator would do much better than what Wonder Woman did during Sacrifice against an amped Superman. Every fight Gladiator has had with Black Bolt ended with him whispering in Gladiator ears.

Surfer would get worked.

Hulk would beat him but I don't consider Hulk a Herald.

Nate Grey...I agree.

So basically, I disagree with 50% of your stance.

Colossus-Big C
Cyclops can bust a small planet with his optic blast
http://lounge.moviecodec.com/images/attachment/cyclops-vs-spider-man-10526.jpg

Enzeru
Originally posted by carver9
Sentry admitted he went all out...again, what more proof do you need? Another thing...Sentry NEVER displayed that type of power after his fight against WWH. Sentry wasn't pulling any strings.

Are you trying to teach me about the Sentry ?_?
I already gave you the advice to check out the "Superman VS Sentry" thread to learn more about Sentry's power output, but since it's you, I will paste / copy 1/3 of the text here:

Originally posted by Enzeru

However, there were other writers, like for example Nicieza who was written the Sentry as actually very powerful. He too probably understood the concept of the character, since there was not a single moment which hinted out that Sentry was in a weak condition, so he let the Sentry go full out and now you should look very carefully at the scans and also read my words:

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2320/newthunderbolts014page0.jpg

On this scan you see them starting with the fight and Sentry is unsure about it, since he does not want to harm the planet. Photon then teleports them away.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8394/newthunderbolts014page1.jpg

You see them fighting in the Microverse and you see the golden sun-like energy escaling, Sentry's power release. They start destroying the entire area while fighting and still holding back, since Captain America is down there aswell.

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8394/newthunderbolts014page1.jpg

Photon then teleports Captain America away and Sentry and Photon are totally alone in the subatomic microverse and start releasing more power, while they're fighting.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8394/newthunderbolts014page1.jpg

And now pay good attention at the scan. Do you see what is happening? The first small panel shows huge amounts of Sentry's power being visible while he is in a microverse, which is subatomic, as you can judge it by the atoms and the molecules. The second small pannel shows their exact position - the position of the microverse, which is near Iron Man's armor. You see Sentry's golden energy being visible in the real universe, while he and Photon are in the Microverse.

It's basically ...

Universe = Microverse (Universe but in microscopic) ... of course we don't know how huge the microverse exactly was, but through the fact that we can see Sentry's power in the regular universe, while he is in a microverse, is pretty damn huge and puts him far above a planet buster. Far above.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8394/newthunderbolts014page1.jpg

In the next scan you see Photon teleporting Sentry and himself out of the microverse, out of the spot where they were on Iron Man's armor and crushing Iron Man in the process and you see Photon's power display, which is crystallish blue, while Sentrys was golden-fiery and was visible from the microverse.

Then you see Photon teleporting Sentry back to a microverse again and stating, that it will be too late when he gets out of the microverse. Can Sentry escape out of the microverse all by himself? Or is Photon going to release him, when they're gone? After that display, I don't even think that something like that matters anymore, since you saw Sentry's power level now.

Also basically the very first time where he had the chance to release a serious amount of energy, while in the past there was never an instance where he could have been able to release that much power, without destroying the Earth, since he was always an Earth bound hero.

Existere
Originally posted by carver9
Never said that Superman couldn't drill through Earth. A lot of beings are capable of doing this and Scott is one of them. I would put Superman heat vision over "any" man made drill. OK Carver boy. So Superman did this in about a page. Do you think it's reasonable to estimate that Scott could use his optic blasts to drill from the surface of the earth to the core in a page?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by carver9
In your opinion buddy. I think Gladiator would do much better than what Wonder Woman did during Sacrifice against an amped Superman. Every fight Gladiator has had with Black Bolt ended with him whispering in Gladiator ears.

Surfer would get worked.

Hulk would beat him but I don't consider Hulk a Herald.

Nate Grey...I agree.

So basically, I disagree with 50% of your stance.

Superman would beat Gladiator, so would Surfer. It doesn't really matter what you think because those aren't arguments you'd win.

Sooooooo you agree that Black Bolt would beat Gladiator? For the record, that's only happened once.

Hulk is still a herald bar World Breaker or some shit.

You'd agree a 100% if you wanted to be completely correct.

carver9
Originally posted by Enzeru
Are you trying to teach me about the Sentry ?_?
I already gave you the advice to check out the "Superman VS Sentry" thread to learn more about Sentry's power output, but since it's you, I will paste / copy 1/3 of the text here:

I don't care about your scans. It was referenced that Sentry wasnt holding back "more than once". You showing me other fights doesn't take away from that.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh010.jpg

Like I've stated before...Sentry never displayed power like he showed against WWH again. You hating that Hulk punched the juice out of him, sending him to the hospital doesn't take away from this, it just shows how badass Hulk is.

carver9
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman would beat Gladiator, so would Surfer. It doesn't really matter what you think because those aren't arguments you'd win.

Sooooooo you agree that Black Bolt would beat Gladiator? For the record, that's only happened once.

Hulk is still a herald bar World Breaker or some shit.

You'd agree a 100% if you wanted to be completely correct.

Superman wouldn't beat Gladiator.

Surfer wouldn't beat him either. I know its not Canon but their encounter is exactly how I think the fight would play out.

Yes, I agree Black Bolt could beat Gladiator and by the way, BlackBolt did that twice.

Whatever Rage.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by carver9
Superman wouldn't beat Gladiator.

Surfer wouldn't beat him either. I know its not Canon but their encounter is exactly how I think the fight would play out.

Yes, I agree Black Bolt could beat Gladiator and by the way, BlackBolt did that twice.

Whatever Rage.

Like I said, it matters very little what you think, Superman/Surfer would beat Gladiator. These aren't arguments you could possibly win, disagreeing is just setting yourself up for a fall.

I'm just giving you some advice.

carver9
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Like I said, it matters very little what you think, Superman/Surfer would beat Gladiator. These aren't arguments you could possibly win, disagreeing is just setting yourself up for a fall.

I'm just giving you some advice.

Rage...I don't care for your advise.

KK is Wang!
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/goofygoober2.jpg

carver9
Originally posted by KK is Wang!
Carver 9 your posts are those of a troll

STFU...CapitalPunishment.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by carver9
Rage...I don't care for your advise.

I guess you enjoy being wrong. It's really the only explanation for all your posts thus far.

Existere
Originally posted by carver9
STFU...CapitalPunishment. Carver, do you think Cyclops could optic blast from the surface to the core of the earth in a couple panels?

I'm just legitimately curious.

carver9
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I guess you enjoy being wrong. It's really the only explanation for all your posts thus far.

In not wrong and all of this is basically "your opinion".

Enzeru
Originally posted by carver9
Like I've stated before...Sentry never displayed power like he showed against WWH again. You hating that Hulk punched the juice out of him, sending him to the hospital doesn't take away from this, it just shows how badass Hulk is.

It just shows that Pak depowered the Sentry, so that he wouldn't kill Hulk in the process <_> Read the entire post and learn about the characters you want to argue about, otherwise it turns you into the troll everyone claims you to be.

carver9
Originally posted by Existere
Carver, do you think Cyclops could optic blast from the surface to the core of the earth in a couple panels?

I'm just legitimately curious.

I don't know. Cyclops has some amazing fts with his heat vision.

Spire
Superman wouldn't beat Gladiator.

carver9
Originally posted by Enzeru
It just shows that Pak depowered the Sentry, so that he wouldn't kill Hulk in the process <_> Read the entire post and learn about the characters you want to argue about, otherwise it turns you into the troll everyone claims you to be.

Nothing was stated that Sentry was depowered.

Sentry is of my favorite characters...I know about the character and your post will not add on to what I already know.

Existere
Originally posted by carver9
I don't know. The only accurate thing you've posted in this thread.

carver9
Originally posted by Existere
The only accurate thing you've posted in this thread.

Lol...everything I've posted has been accurate.

leonidas
Originally posted by Existere
The only accurate thing you've posted in this thread.

laughing out loud

oh you..., never leave again. big grin

The Sorrow
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Superman sits there and concentrates a full powered heat vision at these guys heads for 1 hour. No holding back at all.
What happens

1. Thor
2. Doomsday
3. Black adam
4. Wonder woman
5. Superboy prim
6. Silver surfer
7. Hulk

Thor, Black Adam, Wonder Woman and possibly Doomsday die, the rest should survive.

Enzeru
Originally posted by carver9
Nothing was stated that Sentry was depowered.

Sentry is of my favorite characters...I know about the character and your post will not add on to what I already know.

How about you actually read the post and pay attention when looking at the scans which show Sentry spending high quality time in his house, unable to leave it, because of his illness?

Damn dude, I was actually thinking that you aren't really ... mentally challenged, but right now - you really have no clue.

Leave it be.

Existere
Originally posted by leonidas
laughing out loud

oh you..., never leave again. big grin You keep me coming back, Leo.

DARTH POWER
They should all die! No one here should be tanking Supes full Heat Vision for an hour!

But I am a bit unsure about Surfer, as his Skin was made by Galactus to withstand the heat of the "Hottest Star"..

Originally posted by carver9
Superman wouldn't beat Gladiator.

Surfer wouldn't beat him either.

WTF??!

Zack Fair
Some funny shit right here.

zeel
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Superman sits there and concentrates a full powered heat vision at these guys heads for 1 hour. No holding back at all.
What happens

1. Thor
2. Doomsday
3. Black adam
4. Wonder woman
5. Superboy prim
6. Silver surfer
7. Hulk


he burns a hole right though all of them.

Mr.Mxyzptlk
Originally posted by carver9

Superman heatvision never did what Scott heat vision has done. Didn't Scott bfr Gorgon (Blackbolts Gorgon) from New York to Georgia that located in another continent? Superman concussive force doesn't match that at all and Scott was holding back.



The irony of that Carver...is that Gorgon punted Wolverine from New York to Georgia. It had nothing to do with Scott.

Sin I AM
IIRC didnt namor tank cylops blast when they were in the negative zone recently.....i vaguely remember that

jalek moye
Originally posted by carver9
I don't know. Cyclops has some amazing fts with his heat vision.

You mean optic blast, not heat vision

paisapower
They all die, It wont take long either

Parmaniac
Originally posted by jalek moye
You mean optic blast, not heat vision Carvision you need Carver's unique visor to see the world through his eyes.

KK is Wang!
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...everything I've posted has been accurate.

You got owned at comicvine Tollver9

carver9
Some survive and some fall.

h1a8
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Superman sits there and concentrates a full powered heat vision at these guys heads for 1 hour. No holding back at all.
What happens

1. Thor
2. Doomsday
3. Black adam
4. Wonder woman
5. Superboy prim
6. Silver surfer
7. Hulk

1. Dies
2. Adapts
3. Dies
4. Dies
5. Survives but is probably hurt (at his best of course)
6. Dies
7. Dies

Mr.Mxyzptlk
Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
The irony of that Carver...is that Gorgon punted Wolverine from New York to Georgia. It had nothing to do with Scott.

Just saying Carver, you were wrong right there.

leonidas
cyke's beam vs supes' heat vision?? seriously? anyway, full power for one hour? depends. are they simply standing there? (ie--no adapting, no absorbing) with no efforts at all to save themselves? ss is best suited to handle it, but i'm not sure he could do so passively. i don't see any of the others surviving at all--most couldn't handle even CLOSE to a full hour at full power.....

Zack Fair
Originally posted by leonidas
cyke's beam vs supes' heat vision?? seriously?

/thread.

JayDaDon
I haven't seen any evidence that heat even affects surfer. So he should do fine.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by carver9
Superman wouldn't beat Gladiator.

Wanna Battlezone it?

JayDaDon
Originally posted by carver9

Surfer would get worked.


trololol

By phucking gladiator??!!

carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Wanna Battlezone it?

I'm satified with Hulk being>>>Thor.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by carver9
I'm satified with Hulk being>>>Thor.

You're satisfied with a statement that's not true? You're a weird one, Carv.

If you ever want to prove Gladiator's superiority over Superman and explain why Kal can't beat him for the majority, feel free to get at me, bro.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by carver9
I'm satified with Hulk being>>>Thor.


based on?

carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You're satisfied with a statement that's not true? You're a weird one, Carv.

If you ever want to prove Gladiator's superiority over Superman and explain why Kal can't beat him for the majority, feel free to get at me, bro.

It's pretty much true to me but it doesn't matter.

Maybe in the future we can do a battlezone.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by carver9
It's pretty much true to me but it doesn't matter.

Maybe in the future we can do a battlezone.

Pretty much true to you =/= truth.

You can pick the judges and the stipulations, even. I don't want any excuses. sneer

Zack Fair
http://assets.gearlive.com/playfeed/blogimages/its-on-like-donkey-kong.jpg

bbrem123
Originally posted by carver9
I don't care about your scans. It was referenced that Sentry wasnt holding back "more than once". You showing me other fights doesn't take away from that.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh010.jpg

Like I've stated before...Sentry never displayed power like he showed against WWH again. You hating that Hulk punched the juice out of him, sending him to the hospital doesn't take away from this, it just shows how badass Hulk is.

wait what?...his fight with photon showed more...and also it was shown when MM made his powers go crazy vaporize a complete town...if i remember correctly...also u dont think WWH sentry was beyond seige sentry????

gogogadgetgo
Is this a concentrated beam aimed at one point or a Cyclops like blast where the entire head is enveloped?

dmills
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Thats not a great feat, all he has to do is penetrate the dirt and the core is already hot and melted.

Cyclops feat > That

but i do admit supermans heat vision may be more powerful Originally posted by carver9
So you don't think Scott can drill through some dirt? Is this what you are telling me? A guy that knocked a 100tonner from one Continent to another can't drill through some dirt?

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/3219490313_99be144405-picsay.jpg

Damborgson
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Thats not a great feat, all he has to do is penetrate the dirt and the core is already hot and melted.

Cyclops feat > That

but i do admit supermans heat vision may be more powerful Good Lord.

http://heavyfists.com/wp-content/uploads/sergiowilliams.gif

Did something similar to this ever happen to you?

dmills
Originally posted by Damborgson
Good Lord.

http://heavyfists.com/wp-content/uploads/sergiowilliams.gif

Did something similar to this ever happen to you?

Nah dawg. With him It'more like...

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/funny-sports-a-real-herp-derp-moment-1.gif

Damborgson
Originally posted by dmills
Nah dawg. With him It'more like...

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/funny-sports-a-real-herp-derp-moment-1.gif laughing out loud thats still to dignified.


http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2286/0ck2ak20tx1e2c1v2rnfn0c.gif

dmills
Originally posted by Damborgson
laughing out loud thats still to dignified.


http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2286/0ck2ak20tx1e2c1v2rnfn0c.gif

Yeah, but getting into a ring requires a certain amount of thought, hard work and preparation. I think this us more appropriate..

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/nnehr858env6ggzc1l9.gif

Damborgson
Originally posted by dmills
Yeah, but getting into a ring requires a certain amount of thought, hard work and preparation. I think this us more appropriate..

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/nnehr858env6ggzc1l9.gif This is true. But there is also the possibility that not even the slightest outside help was needed.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-u_UmNd2C2FE/TV8y1GxqyxI/AAAAAAAAAHM/HDMVa1tBBnw/s1600/dance_fail.gif

dmills
Originally posted by Damborgson
This is true. But there is also the possibility that not even the slightest outside help was needed.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-u_UmNd2C2FE/TV8y1GxqyxI/AAAAAAAAAHM/HDMVa1tBBnw/s1600/dance_fail.gif

That may well be true. However, one Thing that you've overlooked... It was both Carver and Big C that made those comments. Therefore I have to insist...

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1274987502_double-ko.gif

Damborgson
Originally posted by dmills
That may well be true. However, one Thing that you've overlooked... It was both Carver and Big C that made those comments. Therefore I have to insist...

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1274987502_double-ko.gif I respectfully concede the point. Welll played good sir.

dmills
Originally posted by Damborgson
I respectfully concede the point. Welll played good sir.

Thank you kind sir. And as just desserts for allowing me to partake in a most invigorating debate about the upper limits of tag team idiocy, I bid you farewell with this parting gift...

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1985218_o.gif

JayDaDon
^ laughing funniest part of that movie!

-Pr-
DO PEOPLE ON THIS SITE NOT F*CKING READ SUPERMAN COMICS?

Sweet jesus.

It's not just heat; it's also concussive force.

I swear, some people need to be e-slapped.

--

Also, Jake was right:

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Full powered non holding back heat vision for an hour directed at their heads?

He likely kills everyone on that list.

Starscream M
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Superman sits there and concentrates a full powered heat vision at these guys heads for 1 hour. its simply not possible...superman can't maintain full power heat vision for more than a minute without being drained

DARTH POWER
Originally posted by Starscream M
its simply not possible...superman can't maintain full power heat vision for more than a minute without being drained

Proof??!

Not that it matters.. A minute is all it would take.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
They should all die! No one here should be tanking Supes full Heat Vision for an hour!

But I am a bit unsure about Surfer, as his Skin was made by Galactus to withstand the heat of the "Hottest Star"..






Originally posted by -Pr-
DO PEOPLE ON THIS SITE NOT F*CKING READ SUPERMAN COMICS?

Sweet jesus.

It's not just heat; it's also concussive force.

I swear, some people need to be e-slapped.



Ah yes you're right.. Surfer dies too, and it'll take a lot less than an hour.. I deserve an e-slap!

-Pr-
Originally posted by Starscream M
its simply not possible...superman can't maintain full power heat vision for more than a minute without being drained

Says who?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Proof??!

Not that it matters.. A minute is all it would take.







Ah yes you're right.. Surfer dies too, and it'll take a lot less than an hour.. I deserve an e-slap!

sneer

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