Team Marvel vs. Team Imperiex

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shokosugi
Team Marvel


Odin w/ Destroyer Armor
RKT
Surtur w/ Twilight Sword
Loki w/ Norn Stones
BRB
Entire Asgard
Thanos
Annihilation wave (w/out Galactus and T&A)
Kree
Skrulls
Inhumans
Heralds (SS, Terrax, Stardust, ...)
5 Million members of Nova Corp
X-Men
Fantastic Four
Avengers



Vs.

Team Imperiex


Imperiex Primes
5 Million Imperiex Probes

JakeTheBank
Marvel.

Glorificus
Is this spite? Marvel easy.

Nihilist
LOL @ Shoko.

Marvel easy.

Galan007
Originally posted by shokosugi
Team Marvel

5 Million members of Nova Corp

Vs.

5 Million Imperiex Probes Originally posted by Digi
Maximum number of contenders

Let's keep it maximum 5 versus 5, with the exception of teams. More than 5 characters in a match is hard to discuss, threads like that often disappear in 2 days, imagine over 10 characters involved...

(Now, in some cases, an exception or two might be made with some threads. It's usually a judgement call on the moderator's part. But, of course, if a thread has like 25+ characters, it WILL be closed. NO exceptions) 10,000,000+ > 25. none


Anywho, Imperiex destroys the universe, ftw. doped

zopzop
Marvel. Any excess energy from Imperiex's death can be shunted into another dimension. There's at least 3 high skyfather level beings on Team Marvel that can accomplish that feat.

kevdude
Originally posted by zopzop
Marvel. Any excess energy from Imperiex's death can be shunted into another dimension. There's at least 3 high skyfather level beings on Team Marvel that can accomplish that feat.

What happens when he hollows it and continues with the rest of the MU? He does destroy them though.

shokosugi
Originally posted by Nihilist
LOL @ Shoko.

Marvel easy.

Are you nutz?

how about the 5 MILLION IMPERIEX PROBES!!!??

Parmaniac
You added Kree, Skrulls and the entire A-Wave

Nega bombs and the sheer masses of the A-Wave should keep them busy

DarkSaint85
Lol at the fact that the Avengers are here.

Pym soloes by BFRing all of them into innerspace (or whatever it is he calls that dimension).

shokosugi
Originally posted by Parmaniac
You added Kree, Skrulls and the entire A-Wave

Nega bombs and the sheer masses of the A-Wave should keep them busy

500,000 Imperiex Probes can handle the entire A-Wave, Kree and Skrulls.

Nihilist
Originally posted by shokosugi
500,000 Imperiex Probes can handle the entire A-Wave, Kree and Skrulls. Lol the Awave alone was said to be close to a billion

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Nihilist
Lol the Awave alone was said to be close to a billion

That doesn't include their hero units like the Centurions etc....

Nihilist
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That doesn't include their hero units like the Centurions etc.... True that was just Annihilus's bugs.

JakeTheBank
Reed Richards: Franklin, can you make the bad man go away for daddy?

/thread.

guy222
marvel

Parmaniac
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Reed Richards: Franklin, can you make the bad man go away for daddy?

/thread. Reminds me how retarded it was to include Franklin in Fear Itself.

WhiteWitchKing
Marvel. Imperiex is the only problem but you have guys like Odin, Surtur, and Rune Thor. Then you have Reed, Pym, and Thanos playing the strategy gaming.

The Probes are powerful sure but you're looking at Kree Sentries, Bolt power Sentries, Shi'Ar Imperial Guard, Centurions, Seekers, Super Skrulls, and 5 armadas (Nova Corps, A-Wave, Shi-Ar, Kree, & Skrull) that will take them to task.

Then you have a reality warper from the A-Wave, Maximus' voice based weapon and Inhuman city/gun, Shi-Ar negabombs, and a host of teleportation devices.

And then there's those Asgardians, In-humans, X-Men, FF, and Avengers as well.

Originally posted by kevdude
What happens when he hollows it and continues with the rest of the MU? He does destroy them though.

Reed already thought of that; he teleports the Earth into a different dimension.

guy222
marvel gonna win here

Ash_J_Williams
Marvel.

armedforbattle
So lets say the 5 million Nova corps take on the 5 million imperiex probes.

Now you have everybody else vs Imperiex Prime

Marvel in an Epic Shit Stomp.

Golgo13
Those imperiex probes would demolish nova corps. They are just poor mans green lanterns.

pym-ftw
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol at the fact that the Avengers are here.

Pym soloes by BFRing all of them to the microverse.
thumb up

armedforbattle
Originally posted by Golgo13
Those imperiex probes would demolish nova corps. They are just poor mans green lanterns.
okay but you still have the Awave, which is way more than 5 mil,
The Shiar empire, Skrulls, Asgardians, Kree, Inhumans and various earth heroes.
Then you have Stark, Pym, Banner, Reed and thanos on the tech/prep side of the battle. Galactus heralds which would be speed blitzing the shit out of everyone.
Then you still have the big guns: RKT, Odin in Destroyer, Loki Norn Stones, Surtur Twilight Sword.

Marvel Destroys big grin

Cogito
Marvel gets wrecked. Clearly some people never read OWAW

armedforbattle
Originally posted by Cogito
Marvel gets wrecked. Clearly some people never read OWAW
Lulz Worthy.
How could marvel lose?

kevdude
Marvel team dies still, this is funny. lol.

armedforbattle
How^

Glorificus
Marvel team stomps.

Golgo13
Originally posted by armedforbattle
okay but you still have the Awave, which is way more than 5 mil,
The Shiar empire, Skrulls, Asgardians, Kree, Inhumans and various earth heroes.
Then you have Stark, Pym, Banner, Reed and thanos on the tech/prep side of the battle. Galactus heralds which would be speed blitzing the shit out of everyone.
Then you still have the big guns: RKT, Odin in Destroyer, Loki Norn Stones, Surtur Twilight Sword.

Marvel Destroys big grin

I never said Imperiex wins, I was just comparing the Probes to Nova Corps. Nova corps would get destroyed. Imperiex has to wave his hand and most of the awave is gone.

armedforbattle
Originally posted by Golgo13
Imperiex has to wave his hand and most of the awave is gone.
Odin or RKT could do the same

Golgo13
Originally posted by armedforbattle
Odin or RKT could do the same

Imperiex is above Odin, though. Still, this is a stacked team.

armedforbattle
Originally posted by Golgo13
Imperiex is above Odin, though. Still, this is a stacked team.
Oh yeah, no question about it. Imperiex is above any single person here.
But its still a pretty easy when for marvel.

Cogito
It's not just Imperiex, who is way above anyone on the Marvel team, it's phucking 5 million high herald/low trans probes

Estacado
Originally posted by Cogito
Marvel gets wrecked. Clearly some people never read OWAW
This.
None of those guys stand a chance against Imperiex Prime.
As for the probes there are 5 million of them and when one get's killed it's energies are transfered back to Prime's ship so basically he can just keep recreating them his supplies are unlimited.

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Estacado
This.
None of those guys stand a chance against Imperiex Prime.
As for the probes there are 5 million of them and when one get's killed it's energies are transfered back to Prime's ship so basically he can just keep recreating them his supplies are unlimited.

What did Imperiex himself do that was that impressive that makes you think they would stand a chance? They wouldn't outright beat him one on one but it isn't one on one.

Originally posted by Cogito
It's not just Imperiex, who is way above anyone on the Marvel team, it's phucking 5 million high herald/low trans probes

Against 5 millions Nova Corps members.
The entire Skrull, Shi'Ar, and Kree empires.
A-Wave

20 million at least and that's being generous. It's likely larger.

You have Pym, Loki, Maximus, Thanos, Reed, and Stark who aren't entering the fray head on. Imperiex and his ship gets a nice dose of a few negabombs teleported in or that terrigen bomb that tore open the fault. The would need to absorb his power once unleashed or teleport them to another dimension which this team has experts on.

JakeTheBank
Imperiex isn't winning this.

Silent Master
Is the Marvel team allowed to use a time-stop?

Cogito
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Against 5 millions Nova Corps members.
The entire Skrull, Shi'Ar, and Kree empires.
A-Wave

Some hundreds or thousands of A-Wave bugs and a queen were killed by Drax, who is insignificant compared to a single probe.

Significant chunks of the Nova Corps was wiped out by less than a single probe. Frankly, other than Rich Rider, they're individually worthless.

I have no doubt that 5 million probes would also be plenty to destroy the Skrull, Shi'Ar, and Kree Empires.

Don't forget, when a probe's armor is breached it blows up in a big way. Then its energies are (as far as we've seen on panel) immediately recollected and the probe is remade, effectively making their numbers infinite.

Nope, don't think this is working out for Team Marvel.

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Cogito
Some hundreds or thousands of A-Wave bugs and a queen were killed by Drax, who is insignificant compared to a single probe.

Hundreds sure, not thousands.




They were wiped out by an entire armada which was more than a single probe.



It's fodder against fodder until Loki and Thanos have their say in things. You're forgetting the Shi'Ar's nuke can cover an area almost the size of a galaxy. The Inhuman's city had a canon powered by Bolt's scream with a range across star systems. Probes exploding would kill the fodders but the villains would simply nuke an entire area if they need to so long as they're not in the vicinity. If anything, it's the villains of the team that will walk out of this alive and take the win for Marvel.

5 million probes are just probes. None of them are going into this fight with strategy. 5 million probes that are nuked, bfr, and shrunk into the microverse.

Cogito
^ Clearly you're conveniently ignoring the fact that each of those probes is a high herald team wrecker at worst.

Golgo13
Originally posted by Cogito
It's not just Imperiex, who is way above anyone on the Marvel team, it's phucking 5 million high herald/low trans probes

Hmm, I think you may be in to something.

carver9
Originally posted by Cogito
^ Clearly you're conveniently ignoring the fact that each of those probes is a high herald team wrecker at worst.


Correction...the probes are mid to high herald.

Golgo13
High herald is about right.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
High herald is about right.

Mid to high Herald.

Golgo13
High herald.

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Cogito
^ Clearly you're conveniently ignoring the fact that each of those probes is a high herald team wrecker at worst.

They were herald level bricks that can blast things. There's nothing to indicate they're immune from pym particles, magic, or a negabomb that can nuke an area the size of a galaxy.

Golgo13
Seeing as the many heroes and teams the probes owned the nova corpa and imperial guard would be no different.

Cogito
Originally posted by carver9
Correction...the probes are mid to high herald.

The adults are talking, Carter.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
They were herald level bricks that can blast things. There's nothing to indicate they're immune from pym particles, magic, or a negabomb that can nuke an area the size of a galaxy.

What, Pym's going to take out 5 million probes now? The Avengers would go down in seconds.

And again, when the probes are destroyed they just reform.



Oh, and we haven't talked about Imperiex Prime yet.

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Cogito
The adults are talking, Carter.

What, Pym's going to take out 5 million probes now? The Avengers would go down in seconds.

And again, when the probes are destroyed they just reform.


Pym's got his Infinity Mansion to work from. He isn't taking 5 million probes but him, Reed, and Maximus can devise a weapon capable of such. Maximus turned Atilan into a giant cannon that harnished Bolt's scream. Reed made a weapon using the power of a star to kill Celestials. Unless the probes find a way to reach them, the probes are spending their time fighting the empires while the brains cook up the instruments of Imperiex's down fall.

And like I said, Thanos and Loki might just decide to screw everyone by detonating a negabomb.



Who didn't really do anything impressive. He has the big bang inside of him but his display of powers were slim. Surtur w/ Twilight Sword, Odin in the Destroyer, and Rune Thor should be more than enough to teleport him into say the negative zone and crack his armor.

armedforbattle
Originally posted by Cogito
The adults are talking, Carter.



What, Pym's going to take out 5 million probes now? The Avengers would go down in seconds.

And again, when the probes are destroyed they just reform.



Oh, and we haven't talked about Imperiex Prime yet.
You are completely underestimating the marvel team, obviously pym, stark and reed arent gonna charge into battle, they are gonna play it smart.

Cogito
It would take self-BFR, which isn't allowed, to protect the prep gods from 5 million probes.

abhilegend
Imperiex destroyed a universe on-panel.

Estacado
Originally posted by abhilegend
Imperiex destroyed a universe on-panel.
Not enough to take on kmc Odin,Thor & Surtur...you would need kmc Galactus for the job..uhuh

abhilegend
Originally posted by Estacado
Not enough to take on kmc Odin,Thor & Surtur...you would need kmc Galactus for the job..uhuh
I forgot about KMC odin.

Galan007
The Probes wiped out Kalanor, Karna, Daxam, Almerac, Warworld, Atlantis, etc. They were also shown to be well above the likes of Zod, Dianna, Wally, Kyle, J'onn, Mongul, Ignition, Supergirl, etc. Hell, even Legion/Mordru were hard-pressed to contend with a Probe.

That said, Probes are no less than high heralds... And they aren't weak to magic, as I've see suggested.

carver9
Originally posted by Galan007
The Probes wiped out Kalanor, Karna, Daxam, Almerac, Warworld, Atlantis, etc. They were also shown to be well above the likes of Zod, Dianna, Wally, Kyle, J'onn, Mongul, Ignition, Supergirl, etc. Hell, even Legion/Mordru were hard-pressed to contend with a Probe.

That said, Probes are no less than high heralds... And they aren't weak to magic, as I've see suggested.

But once pierced, that's the end of them.

SquallX
Originally posted by carver9
But once pierced, that's the end of them.

I guess you forgot the chain reaction that happens when said probe is pierce?

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
But once pierced, that's the end of them. Yes, but it's not as if they're easy to pierce. If they were, the teams of heralds they faced (and Mordru) would've shredded through them effortlessly... But that wasn't the case.

kevdude
Where would you place Mordru Galan?

Btw the Entropy Aegis (a burned out Probe) withstood the might of Darkseids Omega Effect also.

Galan007
Originally posted by kevdude
Where would you place Mordru Galan?

Btw the Entropy Aegis (a burned out Probe) withstood the might of Darkseids Omega Effect also. Mordru, on average, would certainly be above the herald tier, me thinks.

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Cogito
It would take self-BFR, which isn't allowed, to protect the prep gods from 5 million probes.

If you want to put it that way, all they would need is Annihilus' flagship or Atilan and Thanos' or Maximus tinkering with the force field. Or given Quasar's quantum bands and Annihilus cosmic control rod, Reed would make that force field last as long as they would need.

Assuming they get overwhelmed, so long as Thanos and Loki get away from the fray Marvel still has a chance against the probes. Both have shields and teleporting abilities assuming that they aren't already near those negabombs. Neither Loki nor Thanos would hesitate to nuke the entire field if need be.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Imperiex destroyed a universe on-panel.

After hollowing out the necessary planets. Odin teleports Earth to another dimension. :P

Igniz
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
If you want to put it that way, all they would need is Annihilus' flagship or Atilan and Thanos' or Maximus tinkering with the force field. Or given Quasar's quantum bands and Annihilus cosmic control rod, Reed would make that force field last as long as they would need.

Assuming they get overwhelmed, so long as Thanos and Loki get away from the fray Marvel still has a chance against the probes. Both have shields and teleporting abilities assuming that they aren't already near those negabombs. Neither Loki nor Thanos would hesitate to nuke the entire field if need be.



After hollowing out the necessary planets. Odin teleports Earth to another dimension. :P

Or Surtur unleashes a galaxy busting attack on the probes big grin

SquallX
Originally posted by Igniz
Or Surtur unleashes a galaxy busting attack on the probes big grin

Did you forget we're the Probes explode part once you breach there shell.

And also, the second the shell is destroy and blows up, said energy is once again returned to the ship to recreate a new probe. Unless the team destroys Imperiex's ship, there not winning this fight.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by SquallX
Did you forget we're the Probes explode part once you breach there shell.

And also, the second the shell is destroy and blows up, said energy is once again returned to the ship to recreate a new probe. Unless the team destroys Imperiex's ship, there not winning this fight. The jupiter ship isn't in this thread

It's also a massive target if it was

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by SquallX
Did you forget we're the Probes explode part once you breach there shell.

And also, the second the shell is destroy and blows up, said energy is once again returned to the ship to recreate a new probe. Unless the team destroys Imperiex's ship, there not winning this fight.

Which would be an annoyance to Surtur. Odin could do his own omni-attack and those explosions would do a thing since he's got that Destroyer armor. The other thing he could do is teleport the probes into another dimension.

Rune Thor's force field withstood Mangog's attacks casually, he puts up a shield around the prep guys and no Probes are getting through. Assuming Loki himself hasn't used a shroud spell to hide their flagship from the Probes in the first place.

Golgo13
Originally posted by Galan007
Mordru, on average, would certainly be above the herald tier, me thinks.

Is Legion Mordru weaker than JSA Mordru, because Mordru on average should be Odin level or above.

kevdude
Originally posted by Galan007
Mordru, on average, would certainly be above the herald tier, me thinks.

That would make the Probes low or mid Trans tier. An editing in the trans forum updating the Probes above middle herald, we have Cyborg Superman and the Eradicator (fortress mode) in the high heralds and the Probes are way above them even tho they are labeled mid-tier. Dr. Fate is in the trans level and he was taxed at the end on Imperiex's ship at the end. I think if the JSA didn't help and unhook the Probes on the ship things would have turned out differently during the war.

cool

abhilegend
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
If you want to put it that way, all they would need is Annihilus' flagship or Atilan and Thanos' or Maximus tinkering with the force field. Or given Quasar's quantum bands and Annihilus cosmic control rod, Reed would make that force field last as long as they would need.

Assuming they get overwhelmed, so long as Thanos and Loki get away from the fray Marvel still has a chance against the probes. Both have shields and teleporting abilities assuming that they aren't already near those negabombs. Neither Loki nor Thanos would hesitate to nuke the entire field if need be.



After hollowing out the necessary planets. Odin teleports Earth to another dimension. :P
Only a select few planets were hollowed.

zopzop
Originally posted by zopzop
Marvel. Any excess energy from Imperiex's death can be shunted into another dimension. There's at least 3 high skyfather level beings on Team Marvel that can accomplish that feat.
laughing
Wow was I wrong about Imperiex. Team Imperiex should take this. The whole universal(multiversal?) embodiment of Entropy AND the Big Bang is just too much. We saw how DC entropy can even kill Death Avatars/Aspects.

Galan007
Originally posted by kevdude
That would make the Probes low or mid Trans tier.
cool I think a valid argument can be made. The fact that Mordru+the Legion were hard-pressed to combat a single Probe:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14100272/1.jpg.html
...is a huge testament to their power.

Now multiply that by 5 million and add a universal+ power to the roster, and I don't really see how a few skyfathers can compete, but w/e...

Silent Master
Easy, time-stop + energy drain + transmutation = easy win.

Galan007
Even the entropy/aegis armor (a burned out Probe) was capable of "rending space and time", and seemed to be beyond the influence of the Quintessence, and Linear Men-- so I don't think time manipulation would be a surefire path to victory against Imperiex or his Probes. I don't see energy draining as a likely tactic either, given the beings/energy manipulators they faced during OWAW. Just MO.

Regardless, I certainly hope that everyone at least agrees Imperiex can one-shot anyone on the other team.

KuRuPT Thanosi
I'm being serious here... Would RKT just need a mere gesture to kill or destroy many of the probes?

Galan007
He's considered Skyfather+, so a gesture should do it-- even if you believe the Probes are trans-level.

However, Imperiex only needs a gesture to end him as well. stick out tongue

Estacado
Originally posted by Galan007
He's considered Skyfather+, so a gesture should do it-- even if you believe the Probes are trans-level.

However, Imperiex only needs a gesture to end him as well. stick out tongue
This.
Also the 313wank is strong with the Asgardians.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Estacado
This.
Also the 313wank is strong with the Asgardians.
Yeah, KMC odin is unstoppable by anyone below abstracts

carver9
Originally posted by SquallX
Did you forget we're the Probes explode part once you breach there shell.

And also, the second the shell is destroy and blows up, said energy is once again returned to the ship to recreate a new probe. Unless the team destroys Imperiex's ship, there not winning this fight.


All of the probes don't explode.

DarkSaint85
Which ones don't?

And how can you tell if it would or not?

Golgo13
Carver vision?

SquallX
Originally posted by carver9
All of the probes don't explode.

Name me one of the probes there shells being ripped open didn't end up exploding.

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