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1.wolverine with no adimantium

2.Sabertooth with no adimantium

3.wolverine with adimantium

4.sabertooth with adimantium

5. Rulk






Who wins?

I don't like Walts chances here. Sabes beat him once but I don't know if if was adamantium or not.

Yeah hey Lolz sasy also looks like chewy Baka from star wars but with an amp lol

Sabretooth did not beat Sasquatch. Sasquatch was winning the fight and literally feel into a pit meant for Wendigo and thats how it ended. Rather large context being ignored there.

Also yes that was adamantium Sabretooth.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Sabretooth did not beat Sasquatch. Sasquatch was winning the fight and literally feel into a pit meant for Wendigo and thats how it ended. Rather large context being ignored there.

Also yes that was adamantium Sabretooth. I'm pretty sure Walt down and out while Creed walked away.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I'm pretty sure Walt down and out while Creed walked away.

Yeah because he feel into the pit meant for Wendigo.

It wasn't because of Sabretooth beat him one on one.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah because he feel into the pit meant for Wendigo.

It wasn't because of Sabretooth beat him one on one. True, but a win is a win. I mean Walter is suppose to be a genius.

Sure if you ignore the fact Sabretooth used prep and the trap wasnt meant for Sasqautch but Wendigo.

Ummm....has Reed Richards, Doom, Bruce Banner fell into traps before? You betcha. You can be a genius and still fall into traps.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Sure if you ignore the fact Sabretooth used prep and the trap wasnt meant for Sasqautch but Wendigo.

Ummm....has Reed Richards, Doom, Bruce Banner fell into traps before? You betcha. You can be a genius and still fall into traps. Ok, Sabretooth with prep beat Sasquatch, I do agree with that. I also recall Sasquatches punches not doing anything to Creed.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Ok, Sabretooth with prep beat Sasquatch, I do agree with that. I also recall Sasquatches punches not doing anything to Creed.

By nothing do you mean leaving Creed lying on his back in the snow, bloody and missing teeth? and that's when Walter fell into the trap a second later.

Originally posted by -K-M-
By nothing do you mean leaving Creed lying on his back in the snow bloody and missing teeth? and that's when Walter fell into the trap a second later. Bloody snow? Missing teeth? Maybe I need to see that agian, I dont' recall that.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Bloody snow? Missing teeth? Maybe I need to see that agian, I dont' recall that.

He was on his back in the snow, and he was bleeding and missing teeth. The first punch that landed made blood squirt out of his nose.

Originally posted by -K-M-
He was on his back in the snow, and he was bleeding and missing teeth. The first punch that landed made blood squirt out of his nose. Either way, Walt isn't beating adamantium Creed or Logan.

Accept Walter was getting the better of adamantium Sabretooth before the trap, and Sasquatch has knocked out Wolveribe before, and another time they fought and it went to a draw but Walter was the complete aggresor

Sasquatch would pulverize Logan's brain a-la-WWH.

Sabertooth didn't have Adamantium when Sasquashed beat him. SAS did have the advantage though.

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Sasquatch would pulverize Logan's brain a-la-WWH. Walter isn't packing that kind of power.

Sasquatch looses to wolverine with adamantium and Red Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
Sabertooth didn't have Adamantium when Sasquashed beat him.

Yeah he did, Jinzin even convinced me as I originally believed he didn't either.

Originally posted by X-Logan
Sasquatch looses to wolverine with adamantium and Red Hulk. He's not beating Creed either.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
He's not beating Creed either.

Sure if we ignore context and on-panel fights...which you have done thus far.

Does jinzin think adamantium Creed will loose to Sasquatch?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Does jinzin think adamantium Creed will loose to Sasquatch?

Never asked him.

He did however admit Sasquatch was even being downplayed in that mini.

Sasquatch has been downplayed alot I hear.

No not really, in Alpha Flight #1 (2011 series) he had a class 100 feat catching a boat and diverting it after it was being tossed by a hundred foot wave caused by Worthy Attuma.

Originally posted by -K-M-
No not really, in Alpha Flight #1 (2011 series) he had a class 100 feat catching a boat and diverting it after it was being tossed by a hundred foot wave caused by Worthy Attuma. class 100 don't mean jack against logan

Originally posted by Starscream M
class 100 don't mean jack against logan

I agree (to extent, he has been ko'ed by lower means), but class 100 with a healing factor and dynamic strength makes it different.

Originally posted by Starscream M
class 100 don't mean jack against logan It does in the sense that it can ko him. Not in one shot but it means that the person is clearly strong enough to do so.

Is it enough to win on it's own? no. But it's part of the package that works.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Walter isn't packing that kind of power.

Bull

No one except WWH was sinister enough to think of it is all.

Colossus, Thor, Walter, Juggs, several others could have done this.....they just didn't.

Originally posted by -K-M-
No not really, in Alpha Flight #1 (2011 series) he had a class 100 feat catching a boat and diverting it after it was being tossed by a hundred foot wave caused by Worthy Attuma. Well in Open Seson he was weak, in the Wolverine arc he was sliced and diced by Wild Child and left bleeding in a pool of his own blood, in Omega Flight he couldn't break out of chains was badly mauled, and he was one-shotted in the last series by a no-name villain. Not the best showings.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Well in Open Seson he was weak, in the Wolverine arc he was sliced and diced by Wild Child and left bleeding in a pool of his own blood, in Omega Flight he couldn't break out of chains was badly mauled, and he was one-shotted in the last series by a no-name villain. Not the best showings.

He was weak, but showed to still get the better of Sabretooth.

Wow context! in the Wolverine arc, WC did the same to adamantium Wolverine AND Sabretooth AND he attacked Walter from behind (same against Wolverine). WC beat all three in this thread fairly easy so not sure why you even brought him up.

Wild Child vs. Sabretooth & Wolverine
1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_15.jpg
2. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_16.jpg
3. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_17.jpg
4. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_18.jpg
5. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_19.jpg
6. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_22.jpg
7. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_23.jpg

Wow context again, if you read Omega Flight and the handbooks we found out when Walter fought the crew they were amped by Tanaraq. Then they got even more amped further when they went to the Realm of the Beasts. When they lost the amp, Walter nearly choked Thunderball with his own chain with ease. Also let's ignore the fact, Wrecker alone has battled evenly with Thor and has even one-shotted Savage Hulk.

What one-shot are you talking about?

Why don't you show the scans of Walt getting diced up by WC? If he had a healing factor he should have been able to fight through that, I can't see Hulk or Logan going down like that to Wild Child. In Omega Flight he was beaten so badly he couldn't break out of a chain, that's pretty low. I forgot about the Juggy fight also. Juggy was wreaking him until one of Walts teamates came to his aid.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Why don't you show the scans of Walt getting diced up by WC? If he had a healing factor he should have been able to fight through that, I can't see Hulk or Logan going down like that to Wild Child. In Omega Flight he was beaten so badly he couldn't break out of a chain, that's pretty low. I forgot about the Juggy fight also. Juggy was wreaking him until one of Walts teamates came to his aid.

Because I didn't need to as I was adding context to the example you brought up...which I have had to do a few times now. The scans were WC easily beating Sabretooth AND Wolverine in the same way WC did to Sasquatch.

You don't see Logan going out like that? Wow..simply wow.. let's ignore that detail were Wolverine was out by an attack from WC (twice mind you), and the second time he was out for 2 days....2 DAYS! Clearly you didn't see the scans I posted. So Wolverine's healing factor couldn't compensate for WC's attack, yet Sasquatch could? Riduclous your making yourself look idiotic.

No it's not, especially because as noted in the context you ignored the Crew was amped by Tanaraq. When they lost the upgrade, Walter was going to easily kill Thunderball the same chain that was holding Walter when they were amped. You do realize that chain saps strength right? Probably not, but Thunderball used the same said chain on Hercules and it SAPPED his strength and he and the Crew proceeded to knock Hercules out. Once again your lack of knowledge is making you sound ignorant and foolish.

haha no he wasn't, question who looked worse in the end? Juggernaut or Sasquatch? Sure wasn't Sasquatch as Juggernaut's face looked like it was melting off. Swing and a miss again.

Also where is this one-shot from a no name villian you were talking about? Me thinks your talking out of your ass again

Sasquatch is a class 90 brick, Logan and Creed are like 5 tonners. Walter should have been able to mount some sort of attack, but he just lied there in a pool of blood.

Sasquatch was held in a chain and dragged across the town unable to break out. That's pretty weak imo.

You like leaving out the fact that Walter had back up helping him and the fact that he was begging Juggy to let up. Talk about context.

Don't play dumb, you know the one-shot.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Sasquatch is a class 90 brick, Logan and Creed are like 5 tonners. Walter should have been able to mount some sort of attack, but he just lied there in a pool of blood.

Sasquatch was held in a chain and dragged across the town unable to break out. That's pretty weak imo.

You like leaving out the fact that Walter had back up helping him and the fact that he was begging Juggy to let up. Talk about context.

Don't play dumb, you know the one-shot.

Mount an attack? You mean after the sneak attack, and from an attack who's poisons were so powerful it knocked Wolverine out for 2 days? haha riduclous.

I see you ignored the part where Thunderball's chain saps strength and also the fact the Crew were amped. par for the course for you eh?
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/Avengers-Unplugged04-11.jpg

Haha what backup (the stone golem)? and begging to let up? Since when is "wait man, wait up a second" begging? haha riiiiight. Let's also ignore the fact Sasquatch came out pissed after Jugs hit him when he was letting his guard down and like I said who looked worse in the end? Swing and a miss again

So where's this one-shot example? and no I don't. What is it? I think your full of crap to be honest.

Sasquatch is suppose to be bullet proof, Creed and Logan are not yet he was sliced and diced to near death.

Thunderballs weapon was emitting energy there, was it when they had Sasquatch chained up? If not that's pointless.

That Golem did more damage to Juggy and Sasquatch did. Juggy was clearly stronger there as his punches sent Walt flying.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Sasquatch is suppose to be bullet proof, Creed and Logan are not yet he was sliced and diced to near death.

Thunderballs weapon was emitting energy there, was it when they had Sasquatch chained up? If not that's pointless.

That Golem did more damage to Juggy and Sasquatch did. Juggy was clearly stronger there as his punches sent Walt flying.

Haha ok now your trolling, Hulk is supposed to be bullet proof but have we seen him cut? You betcha and near death? Nice exageration

Haha did it emit energy in the second panel? Nope. Try again. Also you do realize several times in Omega Flight his chain lit up blue right? Probably not.

Clearly juggernaut's face after Walter's punches would tend to disagree with you on that statement. You meant sent him flying when he had his hand up and said hold up a second? haha context again champ.

Still no example of the one-shot from this no-name villian eh?

Didn't Logan say he was bleeding to death from the cuts?

I don't recall seeing it stated the weapon was draining him. I thought a exloding semi kayoed him?

Context? Did you not see Walter begging Juggy to stop with blood pouring out of his mouth? Juggies punches sent Sasquatch packing twice at least. Sasquatch was gone for around 6 pages or so until he came back and attacked Juggernaut while he was reeling from a punch he took from Walt's teammate.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Didn't Logan say he was bleeding to death from the cuts?

I don't recall seeing it stated the weapon was draining him. I thought a exloding semi kayoed him?

Context? Did you not see Walter begging Juggy to stop with blood pouring out of his mouth? Juggies punches sent Sasquatch packing twice at least. Sasquatch was gone for around 6 pages or so until he came back and attacked Juggernaut while he was reeling from a punch he took from Walt's teammate.

No

No, the expolosion rocked him and then the crew jumped him while he was on the grounf. We see THunderball's ball and wrecker's crowbar light up blue and start hitting walter with Bulldozer and Piledriver and the issue ends

I did, and he said hold up a second not to stop. What happened a minute later? Walter came back pissed and they went shot for shot. 6 pages does not equal a lot of time (as it was a fight that didn't stop and didn't cut away to another location. The entire fight with Alpha Flight and the X-Men would be minutes...tops). No he was on the ground from the stone golem punch and was fine he started to hit on Husk and then Sasquatch charged at him pissed about the shot he did on Walter after his guard was down.

I'm letting the rest go. But post scans of the entire Juggernaut fight and we'll see what's what.

Because you were flat out wrong, and ok?

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p20.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p21.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p22-23.jpg
4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p24.jpg
5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p25.jpg
6. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p26.jpg
7. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p29.jpg
8. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p31.jpg
9. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p33.jpg
10. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p34.jpg
11. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p35.jpg
12. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p36.jpg
13. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p38.jpg

Notice the scene you mentioned blood was coming out of Walter's mouth so was Juggeranuts and I said Juggernaut's face looked mangled. Were either close to being ko'ed? Nope, they were still going shot for shot. If anything it showed they were equal. I still don't get how this is a low showing?

I'm not wrong about anything. Walter was left bleeding in a pool of his own blood and was @ss raped by the Wrecking Crew.

Look at those scans. Walter was begging Juggy to stop and Walter had help. When Walt came back from getting sent packing he hit Juggernaut while he was reeling from a attack that Walt didn't even land. Hardly a good showing for him. Sasquatch couldn't even knock Cain off his feet for gods sake. LOL.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I'm not wrong about anything. Walter was left bleeding in a pool of his own blood and was @ss raped by the Wrecking Crew.

Look at those scans. Walter was begging Juggy to stop and Walter had help. When Walt came back from getting sent packing he hit Juggernaut while he was reeling from a attack that Walt didn't even land. Hardly a good showing for him. Sasquatch couldn't even knock Cain off his feet for gods sake. LOL.

haha yeah you were, and once again they were AMPED by Tanaraq at that time. How are you not comprending these things?

Looking and understanding them are two different things. haha once again "wait a second" is begging? Hillarious. So it's ok that Juggernaut hit Walter when his guard was down, but when a stone golem punched Juggernaut you cry foul? haha bias. Your right he didn't knock him to the ground, as he did all the damage to his face directly. The proof is in the pudding and Juggernaut's face was a mangled mess. haha yeah I'm not suprised you are still grasping at straws that arent there. Was it a low showing as you claimed? Most definetly not. Try again.

Also once again where is this one-shot from the no-name villian again?

This scan confirms that Walter needed help.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p26.jpg

Here is Sasquatch hitting a downed opponent that he didn't even knock down.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p33.jpg

Let's talk context. LOL.

Juggy knocking Walt off his feet. Sasquatches punch looked less powerful.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p34.jpg

Juggernaut sends Sassy flying again, Walt had to use foreign object.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p35.jpg

Context!! LOL.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
This scan confirms that Walter needed help.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p26.jpg

Here is Sasquatch hitting a downed opponent that he didn't even knock down.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p33.jpg

Let's talk context. LOL.

Lovely haha, maybe post the previous scan first eh? Walter saying hold up a second and his hand up and he is still on both of his knees yet Jugz still hit him.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p25.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p26.jpg

Now your example is all fine and dandy if you ignore the fact Juggernaut was fully recovered, had help himself, was expecting Sasquatch to punch him and was on one knee not on both his knees with one hand saying hold up a second.

NOW that's context.

EDIT: Actually looking at it closer, neither of Jugz knees were on the ground

Originally posted by -K-M-
Lovely haha, maybe post the previous scan first eh? Walter saying hold up a second and his hand up and he is still on both of his knees yet Jugz still hit him.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p25.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p26.jpg

Now your example is all fine and dandy if you ignore the fact Juggernaut was fully recovered, had help himself, was expecting Sasquatch to punch him and was on one knee not on both his knees with one hand saying hold up a second.

NOW that's context. Juggernaut was the first to their feet while Sasquatch was begging him to give him a minute.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Juggy knocking Walt off his feet. Sasquatches punch looked less powerful.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p34.jpg

Juggernaut sends Sassy flying again, Walt had to use foreign object.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p35.jpg

Context!! LOL.

Based on your opinion, which so far in this thread has been shown to be lacking

ZOMG NO WAY....you do realize Sasqauatch has used this tactic before and so do you think a tree did serious damage then? Guess Juggernaut must be pretty weak eh?

I can post random scans too....Juggernaut's face = ground beef
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p36.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p38.jpg

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Juggernaut was the first to their feet while Sasquatch was begging him to give him a minute.

haha wow, you clearly cant read. He said one second, which isn't a minute or begging (especially due to the fact he also came back pissed and they went shot for shot). Either your an idiot or your just trolling.

The fight was even for the most part, no matter how you want to break it down.

Originally posted by tkitna
The fight was even for the most part, no matter how you want to break it down.

My thoughts exactly.

Let me break it down this way. It's like me(Sasquatch), my wife(Vindicator), and a buddy(Earthmover) walking into a bar. Me(Sasquatch) and some dude(Juggernaut) get into a fight, the dude(Juggernaut)knocks me(Sasquatch) for a loop, my wife(Vindicator) gets worried and yells at my buddy(Earthmover) to help me(Sasquatch) so my buddy(Earthmover)hits him(Juggernaut) with a chair and knocks him(Juggernaut) down. I(Sasquatch) then proceed to hit him(Juggernaut) with a punch while he(Juggernaut) is still down and loopy.

It wasn't a fair fight and even then Walter looked weaker. Walter even wanted to fight because he was shocked Guardian asked if he could win, but after one hit he said and I quote "good lord....wait, man. Hold up a second".

Context FTW

Haha so much wrong in that post, and let's ignore the part of the fight when a pissed off Sasquatch went toe to toe with Juggernaut? Clearly you did. You claimed it was a low showing and once again you were proven wrong.

Now that's context.

Earthmovers attacks clearly affected Juggernaut. That's when the fight was fairly even. And even then it wasn't, Juggernaut was clearly stronger.

haha suuuuure, ignore the fact he was hiting on Husk and got up on his feet a few seconds later after the hit.

Your the miniority that thinks it wasn't close.

Dude, his voice bubble was wavy before Sasquatch punched him. You cannot deny the fact that Walter had help during the fight. That would explain why Walter had to wear Hulk-Buster armor in the rematch.

you mean wavy for a second and then returned to normal as he hit on Husk. I suggest you look at it again. The wavy lines got less and less pronounced, and ultimately returned to normal when he hit on Husk...meaning he was recovered. Not rocket science here.

The rest is your personal opinion and in no way fact.

Sasquatch clears it, with ease.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Based on your opinion, which so far in this thread has been shown to be lacking

ZOMG NO WAY....you do realize Sasqauatch has used this tactic before and so do you think a tree did serious damage then? Guess Juggernaut must be pretty weak eh?

I can post random scans too....Juggernaut's face = ground beef
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p36.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p38.jpg isn't that jobbernaut though?

Yep, still was class 100. If it was classic Juggernaut he would curbstomp Sasquatch.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yep, still was class 100. If it was classic Juggernaut he would curbstomp Sasquatch. ok, gotcha.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yep, still was class 100. If it was classic Juggernaut he would curbstomp Sasquatch. Class 100? He was lucky to be 80 tons. What are you basing this off of?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Class 100? He was lucky to be 80 tons. What are you basing this off of?

Handbooks still listed him as class 100, and he still had class 100 feats.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Handbooks still listed him as class 100, and he still had class 100 feats. Handbooks did not list him as Class 100 and what feats are you referring too?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Handbooks did not list him as Class 100 and what feats are you referring too?

Actually they did and in the X-Men encylopedia as well. He beat the Juggernaut imposter and even was physically getting the better of an amped Rhino who in his base form is class 90 (finished him off with the gun)

Originally posted by -K-M-
Actually they did and in the X-Men encylopedia as well. He beat the Juggernaut imposter and even was physically getting the better of an amped Rhino who in his base form is class 90 (finished him off with the gun) Not sure he was officially a hero when that came out. The X-Men handbook did not list him as Class 100. Those are not really Class 100 feats. It's been stated that the Juggernaut don't get full power until they kill the previous Juggernaut. And beating Rhino isn't really all that impressive. You need to produce better feats.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Not sure he was officially a hero when that came out. The X-Men handbook did not list him as Class 100. Those are not really Class 100 feats. It's been stated that the Juggernaut don't get full power until they kill the previous Juggernaut. And beating Rhino isn't really all that impressive. You need to produce better feats.

He was, in the entry they specifically made mention of it, and which X-Men handbook? there was two

Except Cain killed his predessor when he didnt have his "full power" then. It was a class 100. Also he was physically getting the better of an AMPED Rhino. People beat Rhino due to his lack of intelligence, it's not often he is physically dominated. Hell he's given the Hulk serious fights more then once (not including the time Leader took over his body)

Also you think that Jugernaut was class 80 and you said he was stronger then Sasquatch? The same Sasquatch who is listed as class 90 and has the ability to increase his strength? Interesting.

The 2004 X-men handbook iirc did not list him at Class 100. Juggernaut was able to hold his own against that Juggernaut because he was a 9 year old kid. Cain was using experience to get the edge and I think the story may have emphasized that fact. And was it stated he beat a "amped" Rhino? And even if it did as you noted he needed a gun to win.

I was being generous giving Sasquatch the 90 ton ranking.

So are there anymore feats? Or you just have 2 shady examples?

Was it 6/7? That's 75-100 tons. and Cain was just a regular old adult with no super powers before and he killed the juggernaut before him and the other had more experience. Yes, they specifically made mention the Canadian government modified him. Before the gun he was still physically getting the better.

I'm not, he has several class 100 feats such as tossing 250 tonnes, catching a 6 story building falling over and lifting a navy destroyer out of the water, etc.

If your looking for lifting feats your not going to get them, even classic Juggernaut doesnt have many class 100 lifting feats.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Was it 6/7? That's 75-100 tons. and Cain was just a regular old adult with no super powers before and he killed the juggernaut before him and the other had more experience. Yes, they specifically made mention the Canadian government modified him. Before the gun he was still physically getting the better.

I'm not, he has several class 100 feats such as tossing 250 tonnes, catching a 6 story building falling over and lifting a navy destroyer out of the water, etc.

If your looking for lifting feats your not going to get them, even classic Juggernaut doesnt have many class 100 lifting feats. I think it was 6 out of 7 but durablity was still 7. The only descent feat of strength Jobbernaut had was lifting Colossus' max weight in the danger room.

Sas might beat Bone claw Wolverine.

Creed Adamantium or No, doesn't much matter. Not convined Walt can beat him or Adamantiumized Wolverine.

Sas might be able to take current rulk though.

Sabretooth mini: I think he had adamantium can't quite remember. Sas's durability was downplayed at that moment. Sasquatch's punches didn't do anything to Creed but make him smile, even if he did knock teeth out.