Galactus vs. Hulk, Zemo, Sphinx, Xemnu, and Hope

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basilisk
Galactus (recent Thor arc levels)

vs

HOTM Hulk
Zemo x 2 moonstones
Sphinx x 2 Ka stones
Xemnu the Titan
Hope

All-out battle on an uninhabited planet.

TheHulk
Team Wins after a long time

Utrigita
Galactus for the win.

dmills
The Sphinx with one Ka stone would give Big G an extended run. The Sphinx with two Ka stones was capable of re-writing the laws of physics, causation and probability on a universal, perhaps even multiversal scale. I think at that time its safe to say he was above Galactus.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by basilisk
Galactus (recent Thor arc levels)

thats normal galactus

guy222
team

ColossusGrundy
Sphinx with 2 stones would solo.

Galactus barely beat him with one stone before.

Simbon
Xemnu hypnotizes Galactus.

superbatman86
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Sphinx with 2 stones would solo.

Galactus barely beat him with one stone before. It wasn't barely and at the end he nuked the stone.

basilisk
Originally posted by Simbon
Xemnu hypnotizes Galactus.
Mind whammy on Galactus! Xemnu was powerful enough to control thousands or millions of minds, can he do it?

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Sphinx with 2 stones would solo.

Galactus barely beat him with one stone before. Originally posted by superbatman86
It wasn't barely and at the end he nuked the stone. Yes, after basically testing the Sphinx and beating him up somewhat, the unharmed Galactus smiled, called Sphinx a "flea", absorbed his power and crushed the stone. With one Ka stone the battle didn't look even close.

Yet just a few pages before, Sphinx was claiming he could destroy a planet with the wave of his hand and tear apart a galaxy on a whim. He overrated himself (he did beat up Terrax in 2 seconds though).

Mshinu
Unless Hope goes Phoenix, Big G wins handily. KO`s the Sphinx by headbutt (eyebeams of doom are sooo 90`s) and steps on the others.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Mshinu
Unless Hope goes Phoenix, Big G wins handily. KO`s the Sphinx by headbutt (eyebeams of doom are sooo 90`s) and steps on the others.

This.

Sr J-Bieb
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Galactus barely beat him with one stone before.
Yeah... I'm pretty sure he was hungry here too...
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basilisk
But... all that said, Sphinx with 2 stones was a different beast. And he has some heavy hitting help with him this time.

Sr J-Bieb
Originally posted by basilisk
But... all that said, Sphinx with 2 stones was a different beast. And he has some heavy hitting help with him this time. A different beast who wasn't used to his powers, and lacked control. Galactus smashes his Ka stones while he zones out in space.

He has Zemo for heavy hitting help...

dmills
Lulz. It's funny how things are perceived so differently by people reading the sane damn book. The Sphinx with one stone gave big G a nice run until G turned it up a notch. That's what the comic clearly portrayed and anything beyond that is conjecture. And that was before the sphinx even began to grasp how powerful he truly was (reality, time, probability manipulation etc).

Destroying the stone is nothing but a temporary inconvenience for the Sphinx as has been shown over and over again.

As I said, with two he was going to rewrite the laws of physics, casualty etc on a universal scale. He takes it.

dmills
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
A different beast who wasn't used to his powers, and lacked control. Galactus smashes his Ka stones while he zones out in space.

He has Zemo for heavy hitting help...

I think even Zemo would ultimately prove to be inconsequential in this match tbh. It's Galactus vs the Sphinx.

Sr J-Bieb
Originally posted by dmills
Lulz. It's funny how things are perceived so differently by people reading the sane damn book. The Sphinx with one stone gave big G a nice run until G turned it up a notch. That's what the comic clearly portrayed and anything beyond that is conjecture. And that was before the sphinx even began to grasp how powerful he truly was (reality, time, probability manipulation etc).

Destroying the stone is nothing but a temporary inconvenience for the Sphinx as has been shown over and over again.

As I said, with two he was going to rewrite the laws of physics, casualty etc on a universal scale. He takes it. He got stomped when a hungry Galactus toyed with him a little less. Plus he had that planet sized Xandar energy draining thing going for him that Galactus took from him.

He was going to. What'd he accomplish though? The guy got paradoxed, and his only real battle feat was against Nova... What we saw was a cracked out 'God' with high aspirations.

basilisk
Originally posted by dmills
Lulz. It's funny how things are perceived so differently by people reading the sane damn book. The Sphinx with one stone gave big G a nice run until G turned it up a notch. That's what the comic clearly portrayed and anything beyond that is conjecture. And that was before the sphinx even began to grasp how powerful he truly was (reality, time, probability manipulation etc). To be fair, Galactus was never damaged at all, called Sphinx's attacks ludicrous, bitchslapped him, and was smiling. While Sphinx was visibly taking damage and not one of his attacks seemd to be more than a minor annoyance. It wasn't that close. But I agree that Sphinx was relatively new to his powers.

As I said, with two he was going to rewrite the laws of physics, casualty etc on a universal scale. He takes it. He was going to do a lot of stuff before he got his ass kicked.

2 x Ka Sphinx was certainly powerful, but we can only go on what he did, not what he thought he was potentially capable of - remember Sphinx also claimed he could defeat Galactus, then when that didn't go well, claimed he was evenly matched with Galactus. Then he got crushed by Galactus.

So that's why I teamed him up, because we only had a limited view of his feats.

dmills
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
He got stomped when a hungry Galactus toyed with him a little less. Plus he had that planet sized Xandar energy draining thing going for him that Galactus took from him.

He was going to. What'd he accomplish though? The guy got paradoxed, and his only real battle feat was against Nova... What we saw was a cracked out 'God' with high aspirations.

You know what, I'll concede that to a point. However I don't think that it takes a genius to extrapolate what he would've been capable of. At least for the sake of the thread, a bit of conjecture is called for. So having said that, I guess the best place to start would be establishing an agreed upon baseline of power did the Sphinx with one ka stone. Then we can work from there.

basilisk
Originally posted by dmills
You know what, I'll concede that to a point. However I don't think that it takes a genius to extrapolate what he would've been capable of. At least for the sake of the thread, a bit of conjecture is called for. So having said that, I guess the best place to start would be establishing an agreed upon baseline of power did the Sphinx with one ka stone. Then we can work from there. Yeah, some guesses can probably be made, but not too much.

We certainly know that the double-stoned Zemo and Sphinx both had very powerful space/time warping powers, vast energy manip, and at least Sphinx had some level of reality manip.

So the question is what can their combined attacks, added to by Xemnu's extremely powerful psi attacks, Hope's varied attacks, (and of course Hulk's punching power!) do to the guy who was psionically assaulted and headbutted by Odin?

dmills
Originally posted by basilisk


2 x Ka Sphinx was certainly powerful, but we can only go on what he did, not what he thought he was potentially capable of - remember Sphinx also claimed he could defeat Galactus, then when that didn't go well, claimed he was evenly matched with Galactus. Then he got crushed by Galactus.

So that's why I teamed him up, because we only had a limited view of his feats.

But see if that's the case then the thread is a bit redundant because the very nature of the question calls for at least some conjecture. The only feats that we have are feats with a single Ka stone, so going by those we have to extrapolate what he'd be capable of with two because as you said, he has no feats with two.

Edit- didn't see your above response

dmills
The Sphinx with a single stone could-

Affect probability, space/time etc from interstellar (and in this case) extra dimensional distances. Here he let's Nova know he was behind the events that happened on the planet Shard. Including its destruction.

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Reed talks about how the Sphinx sees time. Calls him a cosmic deity.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1324487655.jpg

Creates a magical planet like construct, complete with atmosphere etc. Snatches people from various timelines and brings them to it.

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dmills
A chick with half of his power warped and then unwarped 616 Earth's reality.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1322934391649.jpg
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He later shows up to reclaim the portion of power that she stole from him.

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The former Lady Sphinx talks about his perception of time. He can be looking at you as a two year old child in one eye, and see your future death in the other.

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Even during his face off with Galactus, he had already experienced their battle several times. Galactus was like "wtf are you talking about fool?"

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Sphinx/FantasticFour213-03.jpg

As for his fight with Galactus, you can look at it one of two ways. Look at it and go, "lulz, he got stomped", and dismiss the Sphinx as ultimately insignificant to Galactus. Or you can look at it and go, "ZOMG! That motherphucker was powerful enough to try and step up to Galactus." Both positions are equally right and wrong. What we can take from his performance was

A) He was undoubtedly incredibly powerful. Certainly well above heralds. From a physical stand point he was even grappling with Galan at one point.

B) As powerful as Sphinx was, Galactus is that much more powerful. Once be had taken the Sphinx's measure, he turned it up a notch and ended it easily.

Stoic
Originally posted by dmills
A chick with half of his power warped and then unwarped 616 Earth's reality.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1322934391649.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1322934302236.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1322934314107.jpg

He later shows up to reclaim the portion of power that she stole from him.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1324491082.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1324491115.jpg

The former Lady Sphinx talks about his perception of time. He can be looking at you as a two year old child in one eye, and see your future death in the other.

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1324491292.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/picsay-1324491592.jpg

Even during his face off with Galactus, he had already experienced their battle several times. Galactus was like "wtf are you talking about fool?"

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Sphinx/FantasticFour213-03.jpg

As for his fight with Galactus, you can look at it one of two ways. Look at it and go, "lulz, he got stomped", and dismiss the Sphinx as ultimately insignificant to Galactus. Or you can look at it and go, "ZOMG! That motherphucker was powerful enough to try and step up to Galactus." Both positions are equally right and wrong. What we can take from his performance was

A) He was undoubtedly incredibly powerful. Certainly well above heralds. From a physical stand point he was even grappling with Galan at one point.

B) As powerful as Sphinx was, Galactus is that much more powerful. Once be had taken the Sphinx's measure, he turned it up a notch and ended it easily.


When comics were wow oh my good gollies. I was on the seat of my chair over the collision between Galactus and the Sphinx. However the ease at which Galactus defeated him makes me believe that even with 2 Ka Stones that he would relive the defeat. It was a long time ago so my memory may likely be flawed, but Galactus in my opinion didn't have to work hard to pretty much crush the Sphinx back in the day. Then again Galactus hasn't been written like that in years.

By the way, just looking at those scans, still has me scratching my head, and asking myself why did they do away with Nova's ongoing, and keep a sub par comic going like Captain America... sorry people no offense meant, but Nova was just a more entertaining book imo. I hope they bring him back.

guy222
nova is back

point one

smile

dmills
Originally posted by Stoic
When comics were wow oh my good gollies. I was on the seat of my chair over the collision between Galactus and the Sphinx. However the ease at which Galactus defeated him makes me believe that even with 2 Ka Stones that he would relive the defeat. It was a long time ago so my memory may likely be flawed, but Galactus in my opinion didn't have to work hard to pretty much crush the Sphinx back in the day. Then again Galactus hasn't been written like that in years.

By the way, just looking at those scans, still has me scratching my head, and asking myself why did they do away with Nova's ongoing, and keep a sub par comic going like Captain America... sorry people no offense meant, but Nova was just a more entertaining book imo. I hope they bring him back.

Yeah. I think that the Sphinx did about as well as anyone at his level of power could do against Galactus. I'd love to see a rematch one day as the Sphinx has a great deal of control over his powers nowadays. Not that he'd win, but it'd be far more interesting.

As for Nova, I'm concerned for a couple of reasons.

1) They've been asked several times at various cons yet they refuse to confirm rather or not It's Rich, or any other concrete details for that matter. All that we keep hearing is that "Nova is going to be the quintessential character for 2012' s events" and that "this may be the single most important Nova story that they've ever told". Bigger then Annihilation? Hmmm.

2) This looks like a complete revamp of the character. If so, it will break 36 years of rock solid continuity. One if the few characters that has remained relatively unchanged in terms of cannon. Not a single retcon or anything. If this Nova is indeed Richard Rider repackaged as kid Nova then this will be a first. As a fan I'd prefer that it wasn't Rich at all tbh. At least, not if that's the road they're going to take.

guy222
marvel does that alot

not following continuity

Bouboumaster
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Yeah... I'm pretty sure he was hungry here too...
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Man... That has to go in the Ownage thread.

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