Aquaman vs The Lizard

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SSJVegeta
The fight will occur on a bridge in New York.

Aquaman will be armed with his Trident and equipped with his scale mail armor whilst the Lizard will be unarmed. (Claws and tail should fair just fine)

Aquaman is fighting for his wife, Mera, who's been kidnapped by The Lizard.
The Lizard is fighting because he is very, VERY angry with Aquaman.

Enzeru
Aquaman would defeat him without even trying.

Lord Feron
Current Aquaman V.S. LIzard (not sure what his current state is) But I think it would be a decent fight. Aquaman had trouble with that weird fishy guy that didn't seem all that impressive. But still I think he would best lizard due to his skills and other small powers. Pre-reboot would shit all over lizard.

abhilegend
Arthur wrecks him.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by abhilegend
Arthur wrecks him. Not if we use current versions of both.

I'll go with this
Originally posted by Lord Feron
Current Aquaman V.S. LIzard (not sure what his current state is) But I think it would be a decent fight. Aquaman had trouble with that weird fishy guy that didn't seem all that impressive. But still I think he would best lizard due to his skills and other small powers. Pre-reboot would shit all over lizard.

-Pr-
The guy he fought was more powerful than any of the minions around them by a fair amount, so Arthur having some trouble with him wasn't that surprising imo. Plus, Arthur wasn't out to kill them during that fight either.

Then there's the stuff about Arthur tossing trucks, taking bulletfire that barely broke the skin, surviving a magma pocket exploding in his face, and shifting large masses of land with nought but physical strength.

Johns so far, at least to me, has kept him consistent with pre reboot Arthur for the most part. And he'd tear Lizard in half like a phonebook.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by -Pr-
The guy he fought was more powerful than any of the minions around them by a fair amount, so Arthur having some trouble with him wasn't that surprising imo. Plus, Arthur wasn't out to kill them during that fight either.

Then there's the stuff about Arthur tossing trucks, taking bulletfire that barely broke the skin, surviving a magma pocket exploding in his face, and shifting large masses of land with nought but physical strength.

Johns so far, at least to me, has kept him consistent with pre reboot Arthur for the most part. And he'd tear Lizard in half like a phonebook.

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iceman24567
Yeah Aquaman is several times stronger than Lizard

JASON221
This was my first thoughthttp://www.kread.info/g.gif

-Pr-
Wait; can Aquaman use his telepathy? I'm not sure what the OP is stating.

If he can, it's a horrific stomp. More-so, I mean.

SamZED
Lizard also has a kind of telepathy these days.

-Pr-
Originally posted by SamZED
Lizard also has a kind of telepathy these days.

How proficient is he with it?

D-Block
Aquaman wins this easy. Alot stronger and more skilled.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by SamZED
Lizard also has a kind of telepathy these days. thumb up

This is not a stomp, I agree that AM wins this but it's not as one sided as some people say it is, I post scans if I find them on my HDD.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Parmaniac
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This is not a stomp, I agree that AM wins this but it's not as one sided as some people say it is, I post scans if I find them on my HDD.

His telepathy is really going to stack up with Aquaman's? Really? He's had that much of an amp?

Aquaman is stronger. More durable. More skilled. His telepathy is far better than people give it credit for.

Or did Lizard get some kind of massive amp I'm not aware of?

BlackZero30x
Originally posted by -Pr-
The guy he fought was more powerful than any of the minions around them by a fair amount, so Arthur having some trouble with him wasn't that surprising imo. Plus, Arthur wasn't out to kill them during that fight either.

Then there's the stuff about Arthur tossing trucks, taking bulletfire that barely broke the skin, surviving a magma pocket exploding in his face, and shifting large masses of land with nought but physical strength.

Johns so far, at least to me, has kept him consistent with pre reboot Arthur for the most part. And he'd tear Lizard in half like a phonebook.

this is the best stated argument imo!

It really saddens me tho I actually thought people was starting to give him more cred then putting him against the lizard......

cdtm
Was the weird fishy guy Slig?

http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/4/4e/Slig_001.jpg

Because he's a 100 tonner.

-Pr-
Aquaman actually fought the deep six back in the 90s, alongside his son Koryak and Koryak's mother.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by -Pr-
His telepathy is really going to stack up with Aquaman's? Really? He's had that much of an amp?

Aquaman is stronger. true but not THAT much, at least by what was shown since reboot.

Lizard threw a bulldozer high into the air and bursted through a street from the sewers.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/SpectacularSpider-Manv21308.jpg

Originally posted by -Pr-
More durable. That's actually wrong because Lizard actually is bulletproof

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/WebofSpider-Man110-05.jpg

Originally posted by -Pr-
More skilled. No doubt, yet Lizard has a tail which he uses in battle that, at least to a certain point, compensates the lack of skill.
Originally posted by -Pr-
His telepathy is far better than people give it credit for.

What has he done since the reboot that was impressive?

Lizard in his very early showings then later around 2000 and since the upgrade officially again has a telepathic connection to amphibes and reptiles. He can trigger a gene in the human body and turn humans into lizards too and use them for his purpuse. Actually since the upgarde he has similar powers to Aquamans.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/spec239_10.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/spec239_11.jpg

Originally posted by -Pr-
Or did Lizard get some kind of massive amp I'm not aware of?

The upgrade was pretty intense considering that Spider-man now needs to prep his brain with a pill everytime he goes for the Lizard to block out his TP.

So to sum everything up, I give Aquaman the win here it's just not a stomp he would have to work for it, that's all I'm arguing here.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Parmaniac
true but not THAT much, at least by what was shown since reboot.

Lizard threw a bulldozer high into the air and bursted through a street from the sewers.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/SpectacularSpider-Manv21308.jpg

That's actually wrong because Lizard actually is bulletproof

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/WebofSpider-Man110-05.jpg

No doubt, yet Lizard has a tail which he uses in battle that, at least to a certain point, compensates the lack of skill.


What has he done since the reboot that was impressive?

Lizard in his very early showings then later around 2000 and since the upgrade officially again has a telepathic connection to amphibes and reptiles. He can trigger a gene in the human body and turn humans into lizards too and use them for his purpuse. Actually since the upgarde he has similar powers to Aquamans.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/spec239_10.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/spec239_11.jpg



The upgrade was pretty intense considering that Spider-man now needs to prep his brain with a pill everytime he goes for the Lizard to block out his TP.

So to sum everything up, I give Aquaman the win here it's just not a stomp he would have to work for it, that's all I'm arguing here.

As recent as issue 4, Aquaman moved a piece of land the size of a small mountain to seal off the trench. And you don't want to see the kinds of things we was doing pre-reboot.

A bullet barely breaking the skin is not exactly proof that Aquaman can be harmed by bullets to the extent it would make a difference in a fight. And Aquaman has taken shots from Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter. And if we purely go post reboot, there's the magma vent exploding in his face, destroying his "armour" but leaving him unfazed bar a few cuts and bruises.

Aquaman fights underwater. A tail isn't going to make a huge bit of difference tbh.

So you want to go just post reboot then, even though Johns wrote Brightest Day Aquaman too?

Btw, Aquaman doesn't just have animal telepathy; he has normal telepathy too. Calling on some lizards is nice and all, but calling on stuff like great whites and blue whales is the kind of shit Aquaman does casually, and in greater numbers.

cdtm
Aquaman did the seizure trick to a White Martian. No way Lizard's tp offers him protection from that, if a White Martians didn't.

-Pr-
Originally posted by cdtm
Aquaman did the seizure trick to a White Martian. No way Lizard's tp offers him protection from that, if a White Martians didn't.

He was also, at one point, successfully reversing Doctor Polaris' schizophrenia.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by -Pr-
As recent as issue 4, Aquaman moved a piece of land the size of a small mountain to seal off the trench. And you don't want to see the kinds of things we was doing pre-reboot.

A bullet barely breaking the skin is not exactly proof that Aquaman can be harmed by bullets to the extent it would make a difference in a fight. And Aquaman has taken shots from Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter. And if we purely go post reboot, there's the magma vent exploding in his face, destroying his "armour" but leaving him unfazed bar a few cuts and bruises.

Aquaman fights underwater. A tail isn't going to make a huge bit of difference tbh.

So you want to go just post reboot then, even though Johns wrote Brightest Day Aquaman too?

Btw, Aquaman doesn't just have animal telepathy; he has normal telepathy too. Calling on some lizards is nice and all, but calling on stuff like great whites and blue whales is the kind of shit Aquaman does casually, and in greater numbers. Could you post the scan of the magma vent and the pieve of land if we're talking about about the same stuff that wasn't so impressive imo but only if we're thinking of the same things.

the fight is on a bridge so Aquaman will fight on land IDK why you assume why they fight in water.

Just to make sure all my points are for reboot + on land fighting Aquaman, if the fight is in water or we use post crisis AM he stomps yeah.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Could you post the scan of the magma vent and the pieve of land if we're talking about about the same stuff that wasn't so impressive imo but only if we're thinking of the same things.

the fight is on a bridge so Aquaman will fight on land IDK why you assume why they fight in water.

Just to make sure all my points are for reboot + on land fighting Aquaman, if the fight is in water or we use post crisis AM he stomps yeah.

It's from issue 4, we probably are talking about the same thing. Why don't you think it's that impressive?

I was stating the fact that a tail isn't going to make much of a difference to a guy who used to regulaly fight mermen.

Post reboot Aquaman has had like eight appearances, and wouldn't even be valid on this forum if we use just those appearances.

The "he gets weak on land" thing hasn't existed in over a decade, and currently he actually lives above water.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by -Pr-
It's from issue 4, we probably are talking about the same thing. Why don't you think it's that impressive?

I was stating the fact that a tail isn't going to make much of a difference to a guy who used to regulaly fight mermen.

Post reboot Aquaman has had like eight appearances, and wouldn't even be valid on this forum if we use just those appearances.

The "he gets weak on land" thing hasn't existed in over a decade, and currently he actually lives above water. Well it is impressive but I have a hard time believing that piece was mountain sized, if you look at it his head was near the cliff (last panel before it collapsed, before that he was pretty much in the center bad art here) and when he pushes the ground not far behind him the entire thing starts to crack that's far more than Lizard has ever displayed I'll give you that. and the vent is actualy blowing off in the face of that big ass monster, Aquaman has actually a fair distance, no lava is reaching AM and only his shoulder armor is torn apart.

As for the tail usage
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/Amazing_Spider-Man_313_19.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/asm365_pg07.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/asm365_pg08.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/asm365_pg09.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/asm365_pg16.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/asm365_pg17.jpg

But again my very first post here was on current versions of both if we use older stuff as in post crisis we can end this cause I agree that this is a non fight.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Well it is impressive but I have a hard time believing that piece was mountain sized, if you look at it his head was near the cliff (last panel before it collapsed, before that he was pretty much in the center bad art here) and when he pushes the ground not far behind him the entire thing starts to crack that's far more than Lizard has ever displayed I'll give you that. and the vent is actualy blowing off in the face of that big ass monster, Aquaman has actually a fair distance, no lava is reaching AM and only his shoulder armor is torn apart.

As for the tail usage
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/Amazing_Spider-Man_313_19.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/asm365_pg07.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/asm365_pg08.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/asm365_pg09.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/asm365_pg16.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/asm365_pg17.jpg

But again my very first post here was on current versions of both if we use older stuff as in post crisis we can end this cause I agree that this is a non fight.

We also see when it starts to move how big it is compared to the wall Mera was carrying. That, and it had to be big enough to seal the trench too. Aquaman was right beside the monster when the vent went off on the splash page; it looked like he was hit by the explosion to me.

I'm not saying that the tail can't be used well, just that it's not going to be something that Aquaman hasn't faced before.

For me, the current version of Aquaman is just as powerful as he was pre-reboot, because from what I can see Johns has made him as powerful as he was during Brightest Day, and is continuing with that consistency.

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