Akuma vs Swarmlord

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ArtificialGlory
Akuma at his oldest/most powerful against the terrifying Tyranid monstrosity known as the Swarmlord. The fight takes place in the Nevada desert.

NemeBro
Akuma based on feats would be hitting even harder than the Swarmlord, though I doubt his durability would allow him to tank its attacks.

Not sure how the Swarmlord's speed is.

ScreamPaste
Is this straight up melee, or does the Swarmlord get it's Psyker abilities?

ArtificialGlory
Both combatants get all of their abilities.

ScreamPaste
PAROXYSM. <3

NemeBro
Will do nothing, to be blunt.

The pain of Paroxysm is nothing compared to Akuma's enduring of the spiritual and physical death of the Shun Goku no Satsu.

ScreamPaste
Y.

Legit question.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Y.

Legit question.

I don't know much about Street Fighter, but I believe that move is just as dangerous to the one performing it(Akuma) as it is to the victim.

NemeBro
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Y.

Legit question. The Shun Goku no Satsu is just as dangerous to the user as it is to the person being hit by it.

Akuma has to withstand the total death of body and soul each time he uses it. And he does.

ScreamPaste
Why is that more painful than paroxysm? mmm

NemeBro
Because it flays your flesh and soul completely, rather than just inciting some mild pain in your body to make using your body effectively difficult? no expression

Gouken, when hit by the Shun Goku no Satsu, was flayed to small pieces while alive, though through the Power of Nothingness was apparently able to reconstruct his body over a period of three years (I think).

Also, get online *****.

ScreamPaste
That isn't at all what paroxysm does, actually. haermm

An entire chapter of space marines constantly wears devices that inflict unimaginable pain constantly by lightning up every nerve ending in the body, IIRC. They can function perfectly fine with these, acting like they don't notice them. mmm

Now, I'd like to believe paroxysm can **** up a space marine. Unfortunately I can't actually prove whether or not it would at the moment because lore on it is scant. -.-; But if it would, it would be more painful than being torn apart. Significantly so. It should, coming from a Hive Tyrant, but especially from the Swarmlord if he's all he's cracked up to be, based solely on being a hax as **** psyker.

And it being dangerous for Akuma = he feels what the victim feels? mmm

NemeBro
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
That isn't at all what paroxysm does, actually. haermm

An entire chapter of space marines constantly wears devices that inflict unimaginable pain constantly by lightning up every nerve ending in the body, IIRC. They can function perfectly fine with these, acting like they don't notice them. mmm

Now, I'd like to believe paroxysm can **** up a space marine. Unfortunately I can't actually prove whether or not it would at the moment because lore on it is scant. -.-; But if it would, it would be more painful than being torn apart. Significantly so. It should, coming from a Hive Tyrant, but especially from the Swarmlord if he's all he's cracked up to be, based solely on being a hax as **** psyker.

And it being dangerous for Akuma = he feels what the victim feels? mmm

That is exactly what Paroxysm does.

"The Hive Tyrant debilitates its enemies by triggering every nerve and pain receptor in their bodies, overwhelming their senses with wracking fits of agony."

That is exactly what you just described (The chapter you are thinking of is the Imperial Fists, btw).

Why should it be more painful than being flayed into small pieces?

Also: What makes you think the Swarmlord is a vastly more powerful psychic than a normal Hive Tyrant?

Edit: Yeah, Akuma has to resist that with each usage.

ScreamPaste
Originally posted by NemeBro
That is exactly what Paroxysm does.

"The Hive Tyrant debilitates its enemies by triggering every nerve and pain receptor in their bodies, overwhelming their senses with wracking fits of agony."

That is exactly what you just described (The chapter you are thinking of is the Imperial Fists, btw).

Why should it be more painful than being flayed into small pieces?

Also: What makes you think the Swarmlord is a vastly more powerful psychic than a normal Hive Tyrant?

Edit: Yeah, Akuma has to resist that with each usage.
You said mild pain. Paroxysm isn't mild. Difficult to use effectively =/= debilitated.

Because being torn apart actively damages and removes nerves, and doesn't stimulate them all to their maximum threshhold or simultaneously. Tear a piece of someone off and they don't feel that piece, just the hole you made.

Indeed, Imperial Fists. Now, a Hive Tyrant /should/ be able to **** up an imperial fist psychically, that just makes sense.

If Akuma is not torn apart, why does he feel like he's being torn apart? Is that stated? Or is there just a risk he'll also be torn apart? Specifics, man.

Edit: What makes me think he's vastly more powerful than a hive tyrant is that he's stated to be. He's stated in fact to make a Hive Tyrant appear to be a Termagaunt by comparison, which is ****ing stupid, and I ****ing hate the Swarmlord, so we're clear. But his psyker abilities should be bullshit powerful.

NemeBro
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You said mild pain. Paroxysm isn't mild. Difficult to use effectively =/= debilitated.

Because being torn apart actively damages and removes nerves, and doesn't stimulate them all to their maximum threshhold or simultaneously. Tear a piece of someone off and they don't feel that piece, just the hole you made.

Indeed, Imperial Fists. Now, a Hive Tyrant /should/ be able to **** up an imperial fist psychically, that just makes sense.

If Akuma is not torn apart, why does he feel like he's being torn apart? Is that stated? Or is there just a risk he'll also be torn apart? Specifics, man. Only it is. It isn't even anywhere near lethal or able to seriously injure. It also has no showings short of gameplay mechanics.

Akuma no sells the pain and death of the body, which is>Paroxysm, stfu.

I would imagine that they could use their other powers to do so. Paraxysm obviously would be insufficient.

He resists it, silly balls. He tells the pain, agony, and destruction of his body and soul to shut up.

ScreamPaste
Originally posted by NemeBro
Only it is. It isn't even anywhere near lethal or able to seriously injure. It also has no showings short of gameplay mechanics.

Akuma no sells the pain and death of the body, which is>Paroxysm, stfu.

I would imagine that they could use their other powers to do so. Paraxysm obviously would be insufficient.

He resists it, silly balls. He tells the pain, agony, and destruction of his body and soul to shut up. Only it isn't. Nothing about it is mild. "The Hive Tyrant causes mild discomfort" ? No. The hive tyrant causes debilitating pain. Entirely different.

When? And why is that more painful than even a pain glove?

Why would it be insufficient? Yeah, low on showings, but it's still a power used by the hive tyrant. Even at base that is something.

So he's not affected by it? Then how do we know he's even feeling pain? Does he ever actually experience the pain of being torn apart, or just resist the entire thing?

No End N Site
1. Akuma can not possibly be at his oldest and strongest in any thread. His greatest feat has him at is youngest and weakest. His full power is incalculable. To show how much so,

Ryu is more powerful than IV Shin Akuma. Ryu of SFIII is several times more powerful than island destroying Akuma. Current Regular Akuma is several times more powerful than SFIII Ryu who is far more powerful than island bustin Akuma. To illustrate this, a guy with 1 arm spanked ultra powerful Ryu, and the same guy who spanks Ryu fights Akuma to a stalemate. The guy used one arm, Akuma didn't go Shin. If we gonna use "powerscaling". A single punch from a full powered Akuma should cause global catastrophes.

2. The Shun Goku Satsu (SGS) is stated to be the equivalent of dyin 1000 deaths in an instant and that's for the normal person. An excessively sinful/evil entity will die much harder. Akuma now has a stronger version of that very same move, call the Shin Shun Goku Satsu (SSGS). Also worth notin, he now has attacks more powerful than the SSGS.

3. Akuma can tank his own attacks. However, you can not straight, soak up an SGS. It is an instant kill move, after all. Akuma may be able to tank the terrifyin pain of havin his body and soul extinguished 1000 times or more in a moment, but the move isn't killin through pain or brutality, at all. Everyone who has come back from it, used highly extraordinary plot devices and powers to make a comeback.

Just some things to keep in mind, goin foward.

RE: Blaxican
Akuma easily. Tyranid units are some the weaker things in 40K.

ScreamPaste
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Akuma easily. Tyranid units are some the weaker things in 40K. Trollpost is trollpost.

Hive Tyrants are pretty high up there on their own. The Swarmlord moreso.

Frisky Dingo
Originally posted by No End N Site
Everyone who has come back from it, used highly extraordinary plot devices and powers to make a comeback.

Gouken used Mu and created a new body OR used Mu to allow his soul to vacate his body without ascending to the hereafter.

Ryu went Zen and emptied his soul to survive.

Gen also went Zen.

Vega's soul escaped his body before it could destroy him.

Gill, well he died. He just has the power to resurrect from the dead.

Other characters who can potentially survive it, but have never been hit with it.

Seth. he has no soul

Evil Ryu. When Gouki meets him for their special fight intro, Gouki uses the SGS and at the same time, Evil Ryu unleashes his own. Thus, they canceled each other out.

As seen here.
http://gifsoup.com/view3/3306449/sgs-o.gif

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