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Stardust opens up a black hole and Hulk gets sucked in for the easy bfr. Star dust 10/10.

Black holes have a questionable history in comics. I don't know that much about black hole effectiveness in Marvel, but Superman's held a black hole in his hand - and if Superman can do that, Hulk probably can too. Unless there's actual evidence showing otherwise.

I doubt either Hulk or Superman would be able to do that against the black hole Stardust opened up.

Without any surface, Hulk should be sucked into the warp in space Stardust opened up. Together with his immortality, flight, and long range energy projection, this is Stardust's battle to lose.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I doubt either Hulk or Superman would be able to do that against the black hole Stardust opened up.

Without any surface, Hulk should be sucked into the warp in space Stardust opened up. Together with his immortality, flight, and long range energy projection, this is Stardust's battle to lose.



i always wondered if a herald could leech hulks gamma radiation somewhere else...instead of absorbing it just siphon it off to another area all the while attacking him, thereby making him weaker as the fight goes on

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I doubt either Hulk or Superman would be able to do that against the black hole Stardust opened up.

Perhaps. IIRC, Superman's black hole was described as a "mini black hole", which makes this more debatable.

Hulk ain't holding this:
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5567/stormbreaker0320.th.jpg

Stardust wins 10/10. No contest.

That looks a lot like a spell to me.

Some call it the magic hole

I have one of those.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Some call it the magic hole That's what I used to call it, until I saw a kiddo pop out of it.

...Now I just call it the stretched hole. ermm

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I have one of those. homo?

Tbf to Hulk, I wouldn't be surprised if he did something absurd like wrestle a black hole or hold one in his hand, but as far as I know, he hasn't done anything similar to that yet.

Still, Stardust loses this only if it/he/she fights Hulk on Hulk's terms.

Oh, I have no doubt Hulk could do something wacky like grab and beat up a black hole (Dude punched through a time storm and can hold energy so why not) but from what I remember, this was basically a warped hole in space that transported you into another dimension. It just had the pull of a black hole. If taken off guard, I'd wager he'd be transported before he can do much. Assuming he doesn't somehow grab the edges of it or something like that.

Originally posted by Galan007
homo?

Interest piqued?

Originally posted by Galan007
That's what I used to call it, until I saw a kiddo pop out of it.

...Now I just call it the stretched hole. ermm



and pretty soon, as it becomes only a distant memory, you'll simply forget you ever called it anything at all.....

Stardust only wins via BFR. Otherwise WWH kills him.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Interest piqued? ass-hole-lutely.

cwhatididthere?

Originally posted by leonidas
and pretty soon, as it becomes only a distant memory, you'll simply forget you ever called it anything at all..... Meh, at least my hand never denies me. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
Hulk ain't holding this:
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5567/stormbreaker0320.th.jpg

Stardust wins 10/10. No contest. Just leave it to a writer to prove this wrong

Originally posted by zopzop
Stardust only wins via BFR. Otherwise WWH kills him. Kills the energy being who can reform from seemingly anything? With his fists?

WWH

WWH

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Kills the energy being who can reform from seemingly anything? With his fists?

Stranger things have happened

If Stardust don't fight like a 'tard, he should win 10/10.

Otherwise, if he dare to go h2h, Hulk stomp his face.

I can certainly pictureWWH punching stardusts energy form to great effect.lol But still stardust should be able to win this via BFR easily

Originally posted by zopzop
Stranger things have happened By Loeb Red Hulk

Hulk goes into the atom-smashing business and wipes out all traces of Stardust


seriously though, Stardust wins 10/10 via bfr. Nothing else will work.

Stardust wins.

Stardust would simply remove the gamma radiation the same way Surfer did.

you don't even have a reason to believe that, and surfer's energy absorption/manipulation feats > the other heralds combined, not to mention hulk being more in control of his gamma than ever before

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you don't even have a reason to believe that, and surfer's energy absorption/manipulation feats > the other heralds combined, not to mention hulk being more in control of his gamma than ever before

HULK 250

If you've read it it should be painfully obvious that Stardust can duplicate the feat.

"More in control of his gamma" what does this mean? Are you trying to say that the Hulk can FORCIBLY resist the gamma being extracted from him by a cosmic level energy manipulator?

Why do you have a reason to believe what I posted just above?

Just because Surfer can drain the gamma energy of a weaker Hulk, doesn't mean Stardust could do the same to WWH. Heralds aren't interchangeable in abilities, especially not with Surfer himself.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
HULK 250

If you've read it it should be painfully obvious that Stardust can duplicate the feat.

"More in control of his gamma" what does this mean? Are you trying to say that the Hulk can FORCIBLY resist the gamma being extracted from him by a cosmic level energy manipulator?

Why do you have a reason to believe what I posted just above?

Serious question. Have you been keeping up or reading anything regarding WWH or WBH? I think I know the answer to this question because if you have been keeping up with it, you wouldn't have said what you've just said. Read the stories, they are interesting...you'll learn a lil sum sumthin.

Originally posted by carver9
Serious question. Have you been keeping up or reading anything regarding WWH or WBH? I think I know the answer to this question because if you have been keeping up with it, you wouldn't have said what you've just said. Read the stories, they are interesting...you'll learn a lil sum sumthin.

I've read the stories.

There was something WWH and WBH where he displayed the ability to resist gamma radiation removal ala HULK 250?

I am always willing to learn.

There is another way for Hulk to lose and you can again guide me where I'm wrong.

The Hulk gets his energy and mass from a connection to another dimension. Wouldn't that allow for Stardust to cut off the connection or siphon it?

this will be cake, i'll avoid an essay and everything

surfer draining savage hulk

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/th_HulkvsSilverSurfer08250.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/th_HulkvsSilverSurfer09.jpg

the more recent instance when the red hulk did it to a similar savage hulk as the surfer incident

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/th_HulkvsRulk22.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/th_HulkvsRulk23.jpg

the same red hulk who did this to the silver surfer, one not in full awareness and control of his power (note* the point emerging)

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_1640849-absorbing_super.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_Rulk-defeats-Silver-Surfer-l.jpg

now, the same red hulk tries his luck again with the synched banner/hulk at base form

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/th_HulkvsRulk28.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/th_HulkvsRulk29.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/th_HulkvsRulk30.jpg

Good post psycho...you forgot one though. Darwin, the Omega Mutant use his adaptation power (whatever the hell it is) and grants himself the ability to drain the gamma energy from Hulks body. Darwin states "there's no end to it, so much"...Hulk isn't even paying Darwin any attention while he's doing this. Draining just doesnt work on WWH and if it doesn't work on WWH, it sure as hell isn't working on WBH.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkvsxmen9.jpg

he has no history when it comes to absorbing people's energy since that was the first and only time.....wait a sec, i see what you did there

Originally posted by carver9
Good post psycho...you forgot one though. Darwin, the Omega Mutant use his adaptation power (whatever the hell it is) and grants himself the ability to drain the gamma energy from Hulks body. Darwin states "there's no end to it, so much"...Hulk isn't even paying Darwin any attention while he's doing this. Draining just doesnt work on WWH and if it doesn't work on WWH, it sure as hell isn't working on WBH.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkvsxmen9.jpg

What about my other point?

If Hulk's mass and energy comes from a link to another dimension, why shouldn't Stardust be able to cut off the link?

WW Hulk wins.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
What about my other point?

If Hulk's mass and energy comes from a link to another dimension, why shouldn't Stardust be able to cut off the link?

That's not happening. Stardust would have to find out where this link is coming from and then he would need some type of proof showing he is capable of doing this, especially against someone as powerful as Hulk.

This tactic isn't working. Stardust is either going to have to fight it out or bfr him and bfring is his best bet.

Originally posted by carver9
That's not happening. Stardust would have to find out where this link is coming from and then he would need some type of proof showing he is capable of doing this, especially against someone as powerful as Hulk.

This tactic isn't working. Stardust is either going to have to fight it out or bfr him and bfring is his best bet. Originally posted by carver9
Stardust opens up a black hole and Hulk gets sucked in for the easy bfr. Star dust 10/10. Why argue if you think Stardust wins 10/10 ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why argue if you think Stardust wins 10/10 ?

Im not arguing against Stardust, I'm arguing against "his" tactic on how the Hulk would lose.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
What about my other point?

If Hulk's mass and energy comes from a link to another dimension, why shouldn't Stardust be able to cut off the link?
It's not a link like Cyttorak's gem or Surfer/PC, it's more like Cyclops/Havok ...

1) there's nothing to suggest Stardust could do such a thing as Hulk IS the very nexus - his body is the doorway for that extra-dimensional energy to enter 616 - and it would require rewriting his molecules or atoms or even subatomic particles (because he reforms from atoms).

2) Hulk can (and does) absorb ambient gamma radiation and other types of radiation (nukes boost his power etc) and so for him to be denied any gamma radiation would require SD to cut him off from the battlefield too.

Originally posted by carver9
Im not arguing against Stardust, I'm arguing against "his" tactic on how the Hulk would lose. I can't honestly believe you think it's a 10/10 stomp. You abandoned the Hulk today.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I can't honestly believe you think it's a 10/10 stomp. You abandoned the Hulk today.

I'm just an honest guy Quan...I know when the Hulk loses. Star Dust have a habit of trying to bfr his opponents.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm just an honest guy Quan...I know when the Hulk loses. Star Dust have a habit of trying to bfr his opponents. Its just odd you'd argue Hulk has no chance like this. You let the gamma brother down today.