Colossus vs Beta Ray Bill.

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juggernaut74
Who wins?

JakeTheBank
Bill.

KingD19
Horsehead wins via BFR if he's creative like Thor was. Otherwise he goes down.

nwg202
brb. bfr

snowdragon
Is BFR something used enough to make it a viable tool? If not Big C wins now-adays.

KingD19
Well the only way Thor ever beat Cain Juggernaut was by BFR. If Bill is like minded enough to realize that, he can take a majority, otherwise Colossus beats him down.

DarkSaint85
Well as per forum rules, Bill SHOULD know about the 'unstoppable Juggernaut' (he shouts it out often enough)...

cdtm
Bill wins.

Horrificus
Colossus does not have all the powers that Cain had.
He loses.

quanchi112
William.

sean724
Bump

Stoic
Originally posted by Horrificus
Colossus does not have all the powers that Cain had.
He loses.


Yeah he's at half strength right?

KingD19
What makes you think he's at half strength?

He doesn't have the original classic juggernaut powers like the Forcefield or energy orbs, but he has Colossus' strength on top of Classic Juggernaut Strength.

nwg202
people need to stop with the hyperbole, cain has gotten hurt and he has felt pain before.

vision phased his hand and hurt cain. shatter star poked his eye out with magical swords. (magical weapons hurt juggernauts both kuurths hammer w/ peter shatter stars blades cain, he even got scratched by feral) Thunder strike with his mystical axe took out cain's helmet. He has been turned into a skeleton. nimrod, hulk, war hulk, beast, angel, syrin, colossus have popped his helmet off. Cain's durability is all over the place..so its hard to define what classic juggernaut is actually. Cain himself rarely uses the forcefield.

Colossus hasn't displayed the forcefield and cain's magic feats. Evrything else is pure speculation. both however are almost imposible to ko and both have healing factor. so being hurt and beating an avatar of cyttorak w/o bfr are totally differnt scenarios. just cause peter can get hurt does not mean he can be beaten without bfr. he was mauling kuurth at 600mph even with broken bones etc...when peter does get ko'd then we will find out what kind of force is needed to beat him w/o bfr. so far kuurth hammer blows and lightning were not enough. ( both mystical in nature)

juggernaut74
I see this possibly going like Colossus vs Kuurth but only worse for BRB.

Bouboumaster
Dave ftw

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Bill. Without bfr bill cannot win, colossus got hole blasted through his chest by a celestial and instantly healed, he also recently got another hole blasted through his chest and he healed instantly again.

Bouboumaster
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Without bfr bill cannot win, colossus got hole blasted through his chest by a celestial and instantly healed, he also recently got another hole blasted through his chest and he healed instantly again.

Bll's hammer is made from magic, so I think it can ruins the day of the current Juggernaut

Doon
Beta Ray Bill. This guy beat Thor himself for crying out loud!

KingD19
Kuurth was using a magic hammer as well.

juggernaut74
Indeed he was.

gogogadgetgo
horsie face wins

Colossus-Big C
kuurth>brb

gogogadgetgo
kuurth>brb>>>colossusnaut>>>>>>>>>>>>colcossus

Horrificus
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Bll's hammer is made from magic, so I think it can ruins the day of the current Juggernaut I have to agree.

Also, wondering why Colossus is able to take advantage of so much Cyttorak power. In the past, it was usually when the character had darker, more destructive motives and actions, that they were allowed more Juggernaut power.

The more "decent" Cain tried to be, the weaker he was. And, let's be honest. Piotr is a dork.

So, unless Colossus has a closet full of bodies somewhere, once again continuity is being sh** upon for the sake of X-Sales. wink

KingD19
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
kuurth>brb>>>colossusnaut>>>>>>>>>>>>colcossus

And yet Kuurth had to be saved from destruction at the hands of Colossus by the serpent because he couldn't stop him.


Originally posted by Horrificus
I have to agree.

Also, wondering why Colossus is able to take advantage of so much Cyttorak power. In the past, it was usually when the character had darker, more destructive motives and actions, that they were allowed more Juggernaut power.

The more "decent" Cain tried to be, the weaker he was. And, let's be honest. Piotr is a dork.

So, unless Colossus has a closet full of bodies somewhere, once again continuity is being sh** upon for the sake of X-Sales. wink

Colossus was able to take advantage of the power to defeat Kuurth because Cyttorak was pissed about Cain basically spitting in his face because he'd let Serpent take him over and didn't even try to fight it. Now he just goes to extremes in fights.

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