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Place these character's in order from slowest to fastest in terms of travel speed.

Quasar
Silver Surfer
Superman
Gladiator
Thor
Nova Prime
GL Hal
Flash
Galactus
Adam Warlock
Wonder Woman
J'onn J'onnz
Orion

Does Galactalusalus' teleporting count?

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Does Galactalusalus' teleporting count?


Nah just his flight speed

Difficult list mmm

GL > Superman, in terms of straight up travel speed.

Orion doesn't really have travel feats that I know of, since he would usually go by boom tube.

Is this basically a race across the universe thing, and assuming Flash could do that?

Originally posted by Cogito
Difficult list mmm

GL > Superman, in terms of straight up travel speed.

Orion doesn't really have travel feats that I know of, since he would usually go by boom tube.

Is this basically a race across the universe thing, and assuming Flash could do that?


Yeah a race from one far flung destination to the other. I personally think that Quasar may be the fastest, but that's just me.

Originally posted by Stoic
Place these character's in order from slowest to fastest in terms of travel speed.

Quasar
Silver Surfer
Superman
Gladiator
Thor
Nova Prime
GL Hal
Flash
Galactus
Adam Warlock
Wonder Woman
J'onn J'onnz
Orion

Travel speed through space...all of them are equal. There is nothing to hold you back in space which allows some of the not so fastest beings to go FTL (Rogue, Ironman, Super Skrull,Magneto, Vulcan)

Outside of space flight, in a gravitational environment, I don't know who can beat who. I would put Surfer above all of them based off of his speed fts on Earth with Nova being a runner up...this is minus Flash.

Check out Simonson's Orion run. He has some travel feats there.

Probably Surfer.

Nova has crossed lightyears in seconds though. So he's definitely several millions of times faster than light.

Based on narrator hyperbole, I think Gladiator has the best recorded feat at something like 100x the speed of light (or maybe 1000...it was ridiculous). But it's a highly questionable throwaway comment, and thus hard to corroborate.

The GLs maybe. They probably have the most feats of traversing the universe effortlessly in manageable timeframes.

Originally posted by carver9
Travel speed through space...all of them are equal. There is nothing to hold you back in space which allows some of the not so fastest beings to go FTL (Rogue, Ironman, Super Skrull,Magneto, Vulcan)

Outside of space flight, in a gravitational environment, I don't know who can beat who. I would put Surfer above all of them based off of his speed fts on Earth with Nova being a runner up...this is minus Flash.

That first paragraph is a dangerous application of real-world physics to comic books. In practice, we see differences between these characters in travel speed even if it doesn't make perfect sense.

Originally posted by carver9
Travel speed through space...all of them are equal. There is nothing to hold you back in space which allows some of the not so fastest beings to go FTL (Rogue, Ironman, Super Skrull,Magneto, Vulcan)

Outside of space flight, in a gravitational environment, I don't know who can beat who. I would put Surfer above all of them based off of his speed fts on Earth with Nova being a runner up...this is minus Flash. I can't recall Magneto or Rogue ever travelling in space.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Probably Surfer.

Nova has crossed lightyears in seconds though. So he's definitely several millions of times faster than light.


What about Gladiator's crazy speed feats?

Where would you guys put Quasar on earth travelling?

Originally posted by Stoic
What about Gladiator's crazy speed feats?

The 100x lightspeed thing is the best I'm aware of?

Nova has crossed lightyears in seconds. That's literally several million x lightspeed.

I think I specifically found one instance to be around ~12.9 million x speed of light.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I can't recall Magneto or Rogue ever travelling in space.

I think it happened during the time he was traveling back and forth from his fortress in space and it was stated he was traveling 99% the speed of light.

Rogue did it when partnering up with Surfer. She also did it when Ms. Marvel punched her to the moon.

@Digi, it has been reference on multiple of occasions in a comic that space = speed.

Surfer traveled either 500 light years, or 500 thousand light years in seconds (forget which one)

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Where would you guys put Quasar on earth travelling?

Well when She (forget her modern name) was searching for a mate, Quasar was seen passing guys like Hyperion as if they were moving in slow motion. I think it was Hyperion at least. Gotta check on it to be certain.

As far as a Quote for speed, Gladiator has all of them beat. In regard to distance vs Time, Surfer has all of them beat. It depends on how you look at it. Writers don't think about how fast a person is going when they write stuff...they do it because of the plot of the story...the character needs to be at this spot at a certain time. What we see as a speed ft of going trillions of times the speed of light, the writer probably looked at it as a light speed ft. Quotes are a lot better imo.

Carver, crossing one lightyear in a second (which surfer did far more) is >>>>>>>> 100x lightspeed. Also, not all writers are stupid. Some intend for their characters to be that fast.

Originally posted by carver9
As far as a Quote for speed, Gladiator has all of them beat. In regard to distance vs Time, Surfer has all of them beat. It depends on how you look at it. Writers don't think about how fast a person is going when they write stuff...they do it because of the plot of the story...the character needs to be at this spot at a certain time. What we see as a speed ft of going trillions of times the speed of light, the writer probably looked at it as a light speed ft. Quotes are a lot better imo.

I know we all like to assume writers are stupid, but for some thing as simple as distance over time, I don't buy it. That's just simple f*cking arithmetic.

If Gladiator travels some distance in a minute and he's 100x faster than light, then obviously it will take light 100 minutes to cross the same distance.

And any idiot knows that 100 minutes is far less than 1 year.

Multiple lightyears in seconds > (and so forth) 100x lightspeed.

Quasar can quantum jump... Thus teleporting....
Surfer can enter hyperspace... A realm that allows him to travel faster than the speed of light...
Nova can open wormholes to fly across space.
Thor can teleport...

So really their speed feats may not be all that impressive since off panel Rey could be doing other stuff or maybe even on panel...

Superman and gladiator types however have nothing other than speed.... So...

Surfer is one feat where he travel fast enough to rip thew time and space, if my memory are ok.

I'd say he's the fastest on a straight line.

But one can assume that, in that list, Galactus is the fastest

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Probably Surfer.

Nova has crossed lightyears in seconds though. So he's definitely several millions of times faster than light. think that's hyperspace windows though.

Eradicator stomps them all

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/2361/speed6gj.th.jpg

I'm at saying Thor wins but just about everyone else has had something said for them so I figured I would speak for him to.

He has tossed his hammer to the ends of the universe and back in less than 60 seconds. At least I think he said Universe when he did it.

You have the recent issue where Silver surfer was commenting on how fast the hammer is and seemed to have to try and keep up.

Now Thor is definitely not a speed demon feat wise but when it comes to travel speed, his hammer can keep up with the higher up in this thread.

Originally posted by rotiart
Quasar can quantum jump... Thus teleporting....
Surfer can enter hyperspace... A realm that allows him to travel faster than the speed of light...
Nova can open wormholes to fly across space.
Thor can teleport...

So really their speed feats may not be all that impressive since off panel Rey could be doing other stuff or maybe even on panel...

Superman and gladiator types however have nothing other than speed.... So...

Glads can enter hyperspace.

I'm just about ready to throw down a bz challenge Nova's speed vs Surfer. I think Norrin's name gets tossed about automatically without question too much. Phuck the surfer.

Originally posted by dmills
I'm just about ready to throw down a bz challenge Nova's speed vs Surfer. I think Norrin's name gets tossed about automatically without question too much. Phuck the surfer.






































Champion of "dick ryder" awakens!!11leftright

Behold probably the stupidest speed feat ever written in a comic book




http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7020/ssenslavers06vb5.jpg

Also:




http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3076/silversurfervol3006us8.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/281/silversurfervol3007nn1.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Champion of "dick ryder" awakens!!11leftright

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/2lxz3x2-1.gif

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Behold probably the stupidest speed feat ever written in a comic book




http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7020/ssenslavers06vb5.jpg Hopping through Black Holes to cross space is nothing, that's how Lobo gets around.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Behold probably the stupidest speed feat ever written in a comic book




http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7020/ssenslavers06vb5.jpg
Really
Originally posted by Mr Master
Supergirl is flying unconscious into the ends of Infinity,

Superman flies after her in order to rescue her:

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8296/su1qv1.th.jpg




Superman crossing the distance of entire UniverseS

back to back nearly instantaneously:

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2373/su2eq5.th.jpg




Superman reaches the ends of the Multiverse and keeps going further:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2581/su3uo8.th.jpg




Superman goes so far that Spectre has to stop him,

before he actually reaches Heaven:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9118/su4bj9.th.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6104/su5al6.th.jpg




Superman doesn't quite understand and decides to attack Spectre:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9175/su6qm6.th.jpg




Superman can't affect Spectre, (who was sent by the Presence)

so after Spectre toys with him for a while, he teaches him a final lesson:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2558/su7ea8.th.jpg




The Voice of the Presence speaks to Superman:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4785/su8lg0.th.jpg




Superman was threatening countless civilizations across all of Reality,

by shattering all of it's Universal barriers and nearly breaking into Heaven:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6315/su9vg2.th.jpg

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5322/su10oj1.th.jpg

"Locks his fingers around the gleaming waist of his sometimes mentor..." can't stop thinking of the church...

The whole "warp speed" is surfer entering hyperspace. It allows him to travel at speeds faster then light. At least that's the way I read it when they appear to rip open a hole in space.

I was talking about that shit right here:
"he dares to transwarp time and space, using his cosmic speed to twist the living fabric of matter"

Holy shit.

Originally posted by Newjak
I'm at saying Thor wins but just about everyone else has had something said for them so I figured I would speak for him to.

He has tossed his hammer to the ends of the universe and back in less than 60 seconds. At least I think he said Universe when he did it.

You have the recent issue where Silver surfer was commenting on how fast the hammer is and seemed to have to try and keep up.

Now Thor is definitely not a speed demon feat wise but when it comes to travel speed, his hammer can keep up with the higher up in this thread.

It was the galaxy he was referring to, presumably the Milky Way. Still pretty fast.

I think in terms of straight line traveling, Thor's fast, and I do honestly think he's far faster than his highest quantifiable fight (when narration states he's going three times the speed of light, which is slow in comparison to several of the people mentioned here go). How much faster? Eh, don't feel like throwing out arbitrary numbers h1 style, but based on on panel evidence and how he keeps up with people like Surfer and Firelord in interstellar travel, I think he's meant to be a peer.

And of course, you have Mjolnir's recent showing of racing from Earth to the extra-dimensional void in which dead gods live, which wasn't easy for Surfer to keep up with.

Ultimately, Thor's speed is generally designed for him to keep up with whatever foe/ally he's traveling toward or with, imo. He's not the fastest, though.

I don't think anyone is beating surfer.

^Not even PC Superman?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I can't recall Magneto or Rogue ever travelling in space. magneto did:

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/energycorona.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/field.jpg

rogue kiiinda did lol:

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/binarypunch2.jpg

I forgot all about that.

Damn, Magneto is incredibly versatile with his powers.

it's tournament gold

Erik's baller.

Wasn't Rogue in space when she knocked herself out against Surfer?

Does Flash traveling faster than INSTANTANEOUS TRAVEL not count or something?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Does Flash traveling faster than INSTANTANEOUS TRAVEL not count or something?


That would entirely depend on distance.

Originally posted by Stoic
That would entirely depend on distance.

Very true.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Does Flash traveling faster than INSTANTANEOUS TRAVEL not count or something?
He was amped by another speedster and the kinetic energy of everyone on the planet IIRC.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
The 100x lightspeed thing is the best I'm aware of?

Nova has crossed lightyears in seconds. That's literally several million x lightspeed.

I think I specifically found one instance to be around ~12.9 million x speed of light.

Iirc he has another where he flies from Earth to the Greater Magellanic Cloud in a few minutes. Something like 150,000 lightyears from the milky way.

He also has the one where he kills the bad guy, has a brief discussion about the health of his friend, has the hot Dr chick fawn over him and then catches evil Quasar after the latter had a damn good head start. In hyperspace at that.

http://img215.imageshack.us/i/nova36spoooncps029.jpg/
http://img46.imageshack.us/i/nova36spoooncps030.jpg/
http://img822.imageshack.us/i/nova36spoooncps032.jpg/
http://img694.imageshack.us/i/nova36spoooncps033.jpg/
http://img180.imageshack.us/i/thanos009.jpg/
http://img401.imageshack.us/i/thanos010.jpg/
http://img267.imageshack.us/i/thanos011.jpg/
http://img189.imageshack.us/i/thanos012.jpg/
http://img535.imageshack.us/i/thanos013.jpg/

Originally posted by abhilegend
He was amped by another speedster and the kinetic energy of everyone on the planet IIRC. ...And he essentially traveled back in time. Time travel=/=travel speed.

Originally posted by Galan007
...And he essentially traveled back in time. Time travel=/=travel speed.
So what is wally's best speed feat IYO if we disregard that black racer incident.

Originally posted by Galan007
...And he essentially traveled back in time. Time travel=/=travel speed.
So what is wally's best speed feat IYO if we disregard that black racer incident?

Originally posted by abhilegend
^Not even PC Superman? If you use only his absolute best he might be able to beat Surfer best travel speed but on average PC Superman wasn't crossing universes in moments... On average Surfer is still much faster.

Originally posted by kgkg
If you use only his absolute best he might be able to beat Surfer best travel speed but on average PC Superman wasn't crossing universes in moments... On average Surfer is still much faster.
Not really, superman has travelled across universeS plenty of times, just see many of his races with flash. Heck even just before COIE superman and supergirl went to the edge of universe and back in DCP 86. How many times has surfer gone across the universe anyway?
Oh and at his best PC superman roflstomps surfer in travel speed and combat speed both.

You're stuck in the past

Originally posted by psycho gundam
You're stuck in the past
I'm no prep-man or cdtm though. I just have a lot of knowledge about superman just like you do about hulk.

Originally posted by Stoic
Place these character's in order from slowest to fastest in terms of travel speed.

Quasar
Silver Surfer
Superman
Gladiator
Thor
Nova Prime
GL Hal
Flash
Galactus
Adam Warlock
Wonder Woman
J'onn J'onnz
Orion Among that list it should be Flash, then Surfer. But in pure measureable feats, I think Surfer wins out in the travel speed arena.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So what is wally's best speed feat IYO if we disregard that black racer incident? Tough to say. His race against Krakkyl was pretty impressive, though.

Where are the Surfer travel speed feats that don't involve the usage of hyperspace, warps etc?

^ He closed the distance of approximately one light year in the space of seconds in Infinity Gauntlet. Even if you give the rough estimate of 3 seconds, that's 10 million times the speed of light.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ He closed the distance of approximately one light year in the space of seconds in Infinity Gauntlet. Even if you give the rough estimate of 3 seconds, that's 10 million times the speed of light.

That's similar to what Nova has quantifiably done.

Like I said, one of his feats I calc'd at roughly 12.9 million times lightspeed.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
That's similar to what Nova has quantifiably done.

Like I said, one of his feats I calc'd at roughly 12.9 million times lightspeed. What happens when you add in Surfer making Nova look like a sloth

Originally posted by Galan007
Tough to say. His race against Krakkyl was pretty impressive, though.
He was outside time-space IIRC.

He was running IN space, iirc.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ He closed the distance of approximately one light year in the space of seconds in Infinity Gauntlet. Even if you give the rough estimate of 3 seconds, that's 10 million times the speed of light.

Keep forgetting about that one.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
What happens when you add in Surfer making Nova look like a sloth

When did that happen because I know that you can't possibly be talking about Nova #14?

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
What happens when you add in Surfer making Nova look like a sloth

That would be interesting, tell me when it happens.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
That would be interesting, tell me when it happens.

The only thing off the top of my head that Bran could be referring to is the cheapshot blitz at the end of issue 13 where Nova is yelling at Galactus and Norrin comes streaking out of nowhere grabbing Rider by the throat...


I don't have that part scanned yet but here's where it continues in 14...

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3156/nova14dcp004.th.jpg http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5748/nova14dcp005.th.jpg


Here's Norrin chasing and gaining on Rider, Nova then turning on the jets, circling around one of Galan's feeding tubes and getting back into Norrin's face...

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/605/nova14dcp008d.th.jpg http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6752/nova14dcp010f.th.jpg

Yes I know.

That's the only thing that remotely comes to mind.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
That's similar to what Nova has quantifiably done.

Like I said, one of his feats I calc'd at roughly 12.9 million times lightspeed. Not involving hyperspace gate, etc.? Scan?

FYI, what I provided was a very very conservative estimate. Surfer reached Thanos before he could drop his fist on Cap's dome. The entire scene could very well have taken 1 second or a fraction of a second. Making it 30 million times light speed or greater.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Not involving hyperspace gate, etc.? Scan?

FYI, what I provided was a very very conservative estimate. Surfer reached Thanos before he could drop his fist on Cap's dome. The entire scene could very well have taken 1 second or a fraction of a second. Making it 30 million times light speed or greater.

Yeah? Well I have one where I calculated Nova's speed to be one billion times faster then light. http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/pfft-2.gif

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_capisag.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_capisag2.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_surf.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_surf2.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_surfer.jpg

dat surfer

Originally posted by psycho gundam
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_capisag.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_capisag2.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_surf.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_surf2.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_surfer.jpg

dat surfer

Too bad that he was, as Thor would put it, a bald and gleaming bastard or he might have been able to pull it off. Rider would've gotten the job done and faster at that

you mean that guy surfer owned in the scans you just posted?

that guy?

really?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you mean that guy surfer owned in the scans you just posted?

that guy?

really?

Owned? Owned? There was no such thing you liar that lies.

concession accepted

Originally posted by psycho gundam
concession accepted

There was no ownage. Surfer got the hyperbole win, was depicted as more powerful or whatever. But don't try to pass off that little scuffle as him "owning" Nova.

he can end nova anytime

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he can end nova anytime

Yeah, No. He'd have to succeed where more powerful then him have failed.

any. time.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
any. time. http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Internet-Troll.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Travel speed through space...all of them are equal. There is nothing to hold you back in space which allows some of the not so fastest beings to go FTL (Rogue, Ironman, Super Skrull,Magneto, Vulcan)

Outside of space flight, in a gravitational environment, I don't know who can beat who. I would put Surfer above all of them based off of his speed fts on Earth with Nova being a runner up...this is minus Flash.

The OP meant ACCELERATION which is a stronger than travel speed. For example, anyone can reach light speed and beyond in space but the question is how long would it take them to reach such speeds. Or another better question would be who can travel X light years in the least amount of time.

tphGbq7YTzM

Originally posted by psycho gundam
tphGbq7YTzM



Good one.

Your prize...

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/BKCrown_Full.jpg

the predator holding that scorpion in his hand is a representation of surfer's relation ship with the lowly dick rider: a lower life form that can be killed on a whim

Originally posted by psycho gundam
the predator holding that scorpion in his hand is a representation of surfer's relation ship with the lowly dick rider: a lower life form that can be killed on a whim

I think I get it now. Kinda like Zeus did the Hulk huh?

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/nahant-013.jpg



http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/images-2-2.jpg

Yes. Yes I see it now.

hulk was holding back

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/2u8uryw.gif

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hulk was holding back

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/2u8uryw.gif

Riiight. Wink wink...

This is the opening post:
Originally posted by Stoic
Place these character's in order from slowest to fastest in terms of travel speed.

Quasar
Silver Surfer
Superman
Gladiator
Thor
Nova Prime
GL Hal
Flash
Galactus
Adam Warlock
Wonder Woman
J'onn J'onnz
Orion

This is your post.
Originally posted by h1a8
The OP meant ACCELERATION which is a stronger than travel speed. For example, anyone can reach light speed and beyond in space but the question is how long would it take them to reach such speeds. Or another better question would be who can travel X light years in the least amount of time.

The travel speed can be construed as the current velocity. Or distance changed over a period of time.
Acceleration is the rate in change in velocity from one time to another time.

You are not the thread starter so there is nothing for you to clarify. Only your opinion. Thus:

You are wrong.

lol

Originally posted by rotiart

The travel speed can be construed as the current velocity. Or distance changed over a period of time.
Acceleration is the rate in change in velocity from one time to another time.

You are not the thread starter so there is nothing for you to clarify. Only your opinion. Thus:

You are wrong.

It is pretty obvious, the OP meant acceleration, maximum velocity or a combination of both, or intended it to mean that but was unaware of the right term.

You said OP meant "current velocity"? What is the "current velocity" of any of the characters may I ask? Are they flying somewhere right now where you can measure it?

An if we measure the instantaneous speed of feats, it pretty much amounts to the same results as the abovementioned.

You are wrong.

By the way, not all characters can reach the same speed given enough time. Some of the feats achieved by the fastest on the list achieve effects that are way beyond the scope of even theoretical science. The slower speedsters could not achieve such a feat even given infinite time, and assuming they even had the stamina to last long enough to reach those extreme FTL speeds.

Originally posted by Placidity
It is pretty obvious, the OP meant acceleration, maximum velocity or a combination of both, or intended it to mean that but was unaware of the right term.

You said OP meant "current velocity"? What is the "current velocity" of any of the characters may I ask? Are they flying somewhere right now where you can measure it?

An if we measure the instantaneous speed of feats, it pretty much amounts to the same results as the abovementioned.

You are wrong.

By the way, not all characters can reach the same speed given enough time. Some of the feats achieved by the fastest on the list achieve effects that are way beyond the scope of even theoretical science. The slower speedsters could not achieve such a feat even given infinite time, and assuming they even had the stamina to last long enough to reach those extreme FTL speeds.

So rather than state which guy has achieve the fastest top speed you think travel speed is the same as acceleration?

How do you determine speed? Rate of distance over time.
How do you determine acceleration? By comparing to rates and determining the difference between the two.

Acceleration is not speed. If the thread starter wants to come in and clarify his point then that's fine. For you people that want to come in here and make up whatever the hell you want to make it fit your point and come up with... This is what he meant... When nothin else in this thread alludes to that... Then that's for your imagination to do.

You can't even show he meant acceleration. Why. It says travel speed. I even quoted the damn op. read it again or find me another post from the starter. Otherwise you are just as ignorant as hiA8

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hulk was holding back

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/2u8uryw.gif

so was the z-man

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/2u8uryw.gif

Originally posted by rotiart
This is the opening post:


This is your post.


The travel speed can be construed as the current velocity. Or distance changed over a period of time.
Acceleration is the rate in change in velocity from one time to another time.

You are not the thread starter so there is nothing for you to clarify. Only your opinion. Thus:

You are wrong. What the OP said =/= what the OP meant.

Velocity changes. That is the key. No one travels a fixed velocity in comics starting from rest. Things and beings speed up and slow down.

If I'm wrong then no one wins in the thread since ANYONE can reach ANY SPEED they want. Even if it takes them 50 years to reach it.

Originally posted by rotiart
So rather than state which guy has achieve the fastest top speed you think travel speed is the same as acceleration?

How do you determine speed? Rate of distance over time.
How do you determine acceleration? By comparing to rates and determining the difference between the two.

Acceleration is not speed. If the thread starter wants to come in and clarify his point then that's fine. For you people that want to come in here and make up whatever the hell you want to make it fit your point and come up with... This is what he meant... When nothin else in this thread alludes to that... Then that's for your imagination to do.

You can't even show he meant acceleration. Why. It says travel speed. I even quoted the damn op. read it again or find me another post from the starter. Otherwise you are just as ignorant as hiA8

Stop being stupid. Speed =/= distance over time since speed CHANGES OVER TIME. Both Average speed = distance over time and constant speed = distance over time though.


So to force the OP to mean travel speed means to force the OP into an false question or to not know the definition of TRAVEL SPEED.

If travel speed is defined as distance over time then the greater the acceleration then the greater the travel speed from rest since travel speed =d/t=1/2at

Originally posted by h1a8
What the OP said =/= what the OP meant.

Velocity changes. That is the key. No one travels a fixed velocity in comics starting from rest. Things and beings speed up and slow down.

If I'm wrong then no one wins in the thread since ANYONE can reach ANY SPEED they want. Even if it takes them 50 years to reach it.

No they can't.
As a quick anaolgy no matter how fast captain America runs he will never reach the same comparable potential speeds as flash. False anaolgy. His acceleration. Top speed. Etc.

You proved the falseness of your arguments. Thanks for playing.

Originally posted by h1a8
Stop being stupid. Speed =/= distance over time since speed CHANGES OVER TIME. Both Average speed = distance over time and constant speed = distance over time though.


So to force the OP to mean travel speed means to force the OP into an false question or to not know the definition of TRAVEL SPEED.

If travel speed is defined as distance over time then the greater the acceleration then the greater the travel speed from rest since travel speed =d/t=1/2at

I didn't force the op to say anything. Did you bother to read the op?
"Place these character's in order from slowest to fastest in terms of travel speed."

You are trying to place te interpretation in a way that suits you, when , if you are as smart as you claim, know that with all the false physics rhetoric you throw out speed is not the same as acceleration.

Current velocity.
Take a baseball that was thrown. When you put a radar gun on it... What are you measuring.
Same with a car?
Does anyone normally consider the rate of acceleration?
When they are figuring top speed it normally refers to maximum possible speed reachable.

Originally posted by h1a8
What the OP said =/= what the OP meant.

Velocity changes. That is the key. No one travels a fixed velocity in comics starting from rest. Things and beings speed up and slow down.

If I'm wrong then no one wins in the thread since ANYONE can reach ANY SPEED they want. Even if it takes them 50 years to reach it.

this is so wrong on so many levels.

just to illustrate how really stupid this post is its like saying a gokart can eventually reach the top speed of an f1 race car given enough time when it is obvious that when a gokart reaches its maximum speed, it will no longer speed up since the power generated by its engine can only sustain the given maxspeed and can no longer accelerate it further.

As usual, h1 = full of crap.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
this is so wrong on so many levels.

just to illustrate how really stupid this post is its like saying a gokart can eventually reach the top speed of an f1 race car given enough time when it is obvious that when a gokart reaches its maximum speed, it will no longer speed up since the power generated by its engine can only sustain the given maxspeed and can no longer accelerate it further.

As usual, h1 = full of crap.

That means you lack basic physic principles.

1. You have drag forces in the atmosphere that is directly proportional to the square of the velocity. That means there exists a terminal velocity for a fixed force.

2. In space we assume there is no drag forces (forces that are directly proportional to the square of the velocity). As long as a constant force is applied to you then you will continue to accelerate.

3. Many go karts are built with limiters (max rpm engine, etc.) that would prevent further speed increases anyway.

Dark matter. There is coefficients that slow you down in space, but their factor is so small we simply don't account for it in calculations,

There is also the gravity of other celestial bodies that have an effect on your trajectory and speed which we don't take into account when figuring distane.

Space is not an absolute vacuum, which is the requirement for your supposed no drag limiter....

You made the assumption space is an absolute vacuum, and the theory is it isn't, so....

And the terms are who has the fastest travel speed. If you want to make hypothetical postulates all day long everything could potentially have infinite speeds. Breaking the speed of light infinite times over. Course you'd have to break other current rules like the idea that the maximum speed is the speed of light..,

Should we now discuss the theory of relativity or possibly the principles of invariant light speed?

Or how about you admit these are freaking stupid comics and apply te sense for which it was assumed.

On panel this is the maximum figured speed without using teleportation, wormholes, hyperspace, etc.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Originally posted by h1a8
That means you lack basic physic principles.

1. You have drag forces in the atmosphere that is directly proportional to the square of the velocity. That means there exists a terminal velocity for a fixed force.

2. In space we assume there is no drag forces (forces that are directly proportional to the square of the velocity). As long as a constant force is applied to you then you will continue to accelerate.

3. Many go karts are built with limiters (max rpm engine, etc.) that would prevent further speed increases anyway.

ahahahaha!

still a pile of shit

limiters

lol

priceless

i can always count on you to post funny stupid crap such as this to make my day

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
ahahahaha!

still a pile of shit

limiters

lol

priceless

i can always count on you to post funny stupid crap such as this to make my day

How is it stupid when it's true?

Also if multiple things destroy an argument then eliminating one of them doesn't make the argument sound again. You must eliminate all of them.

I don't even have to read the thread to know h1 is wrong

Originally posted by h1a8
How is it stupid when it's true?

Also if multiple things destroy an argument then eliminating one of them doesn't make the argument sound again. You must eliminate all of them.

its stupid because its a bunch of crap.

unfortunately for you, your arguments are crap, hence there is no need to disprove them since they disprove themselves thus eliminating all of them.

your just butt hurt that when it comes to travel speed, SS would run circles around your boy Superman.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I don't even have to read the thread to know h1 is wrong

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
its stupid because its a bunch of crap.

unfortunately for you, your arguments are crap, hence there is no need to disprove them since they disprove themselves thus eliminating all of them.

your just butt hurt that when it comes to travel speed, SS would run circles around your boy Superman.
Not really.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really.

Virtually all of gogo'a comment have been quoting and directed at hia8?
Does hia8 have multiple accounts here abhlegend?

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
its stupid because its a bunch of crap.

unfortunately for you, your arguments are crap, hence there is no need to disprove them since they disprove themselves thus eliminating all of them.

your just butt hurt that when it comes to travel speed, SS would run circles around your boy Superman. Although they aren't as frequent because he's an Earth based character and you rarely get exact speed or distance references Superman has flown to the edge of the Universe or to the center of the Universe in short amount of time. In Countdown he flew from another galaxy of space all the way back to Earth in a few panels, maybe a minute or so. This including the time it took for him to pick up the signal from Jimmy's watch from that distance. These are enough to be comparable to pretty much any speedy space-bound character outside of teleportation.

Beyond that, the moments we see them flying around with speed, dodging, fighting and pretty much every other aspect of speed when interacting with characters he's every bit Surfer's equal and likely flat out superior.

Originally posted by rotiart
Virtually all of gogo'a comment have been quoting and directed at hia8?
Does hia8 have multiple accounts here abhlegend? A NEMESIS.

Originally posted by rotiart
Virtually all of gogo'a comment have been quoting and directed at hia8?
Does hia8 have multiple accounts here abhlegend?
You have h1a8's posts in your sig, you would know it better than me.

Originally posted by Juntai
Beyond that, the moments we see them flying around with speed, dodging, fighting and pretty much every other aspect of speed when interacting with characters he's every bit Surfer's equal and likely flat out superior. http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/SilverSurfer_Rune-14.jpg

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/SilverSurfer_Rune-14.jpg Dodging an arrow in space and flying in a circle? Don't think Superman can?

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
its stupid because its a bunch of crap.

unfortunately for you, your arguments are crap, hence there is no need to disprove them since they disprove themselves thus eliminating all of them.

your just butt hurt that when it comes to travel speed, SS would run circles around your boy Superman.

truth can never be crap.

Actually Superman's travel speed compares to SS's travel speed. Actually Superman's acceleration may be higher.

Originally posted by Juntai
Dodging an arrow in space and flying in a circle? Don't think Superman can? I actually can't recall Superman dodging and tightly circling an enemy at FTL speeds...

Originally posted by Juntai
Dodging an arrow in space and flying in a circle? Don't think Superman can? Go above lightspeed in a split second around a being? No.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/SilverSurfer_Rune-14.jpg
Weak bieb, very weak. Next you want to say that gladiator can collapse stars with his bare hands or superman can bench press earth or supergirl can split earth in half etc. Surfer dodged an arrow and went to circle his enemy saying he is faster than light and we're supposed to admit that he was going ftl there. Good luck with that kind of reasoning.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You have h1a8's posts in your sig, you would know it better than me. And the crazy thing is that only the second line is an actual quote of mine. The others are either made up or twisted things of what was thought to be what I said.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Weak bieb, very weak. Next you want to say that gladiator can collapse stars with his bare hands or superman can bench press earth or supergirl can split earth in half etc. Surfer dodged an arrow and went to circle his enemy saying he is faster than light and we're supposed to admit that he was going ftl there. Good luck with that kind of reasoning.

...why wouldn't he be going FTL?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I actually can't recall Superman dodging and tightly circling an enemy at FTL speeds...

OWAW where Superman fights the probes.
Also Superman has the reflexes and thus should be able to change directions with ease. Remember nanosecond reflexes are those to react to light speed movement within 1 meter.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Go above lightspeed in a split second around a being? No. prove that it was a split second. it could have been 2 seconds (the moment he finished the sentence). Superman can reach light speed almost instantly.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Weak bieb, very weak. Next you want to say that gladiator can collapse stars with his bare hands or superman can bench press earth or supergirl can split earth in half etc. Surfer dodged an arrow and went to circle his enemy saying he is faster than light and we're supposed to admit that he was going ftl there. Good luck with that kind of reasoning. Nothing anyone says in comics is truth.

Gladiator or Superman saying they can do something they've never been shown to do is different than an extremely fast character talking about how fast he's going while he's going fast.

Originally posted by h1a8
OWAW where Superman fights the probes.
Also Superman has the reflexes and thus should be able to change directions with ease. Remember nanosecond reflexes are those to react to light speed movement within 1 meter.

prove that it was a split second. it could have been 2 seconds (the moment he finished the sentence). Superman can reach light speed almost instantly. "Prove it was a split second while I use absolutely no proof to say that Superman can reach light speed instantly"

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Go above lightspeed in a split second around a being? No.
He's moved a baby from metropolis to FOS in about a nano-second if we go to your line of reasoning. Calculate yourself.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
...why wouldn't he be going FTL?
Why would I need to prove that? Bieb said that surfer went ftl in a split second based upon a statement of surfer. Its his burden to prove that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why would I need to prove that? Bieb said that surfer went ftl in a split second based upon a statement of surfer. Its his burden to prove that.

It's not just a statement, though.

Surfer was actually moving incredibly fast, far faster than the human eye could see if we look at the intention of the art, in conjunction with his statement.

I'm pretty sure the writer's intent was to say "Hey, true believers, Surfer is moving FTL here" and not "Surfer's explicitly bragging about moving FTL, but here, he's just moving really fast". At least in my opinion.

Surfer saying he's going FTL is not proof.

Superman saying he's got another nanosecond to go is proof.

Surfer saying he's only got another nanosecond to react is not proof.

This isn't hard. Get with the program, JakeTheBank.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Surfer saying he's going FTL is not proof.

Superman saying he's got another nanosecond to go is proof.

Surfer saying he's only got another nanosecond to react is not proof.

This isn't hard. Get with the program, JakeTheBank.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He's moved a baby from metropolis to FOS in about a nano-second if we go to your line of reasoning. Calculate yourself.

Why would I need to prove that? Bieb said that surfer went ftl in a split second based upon a statement of surfer. Its his burden to prove that. Scans.

Did that rod in your leg move up to your brain?
Surfer said right on panel he's going faster than light. It's up to you to prove he wasn't, and guess what, you got **** all.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
"Prove it was a split second while I use absolutely no proof to say that Superman can reach light speed instantly"


http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/superman_nano_second_reaction.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/as603p19.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/as603p20.jpg
He's also casually held a conversation in fractions of a nano-second.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It's not just a statement, though.

Surfer was actually moving incredibly fast, far faster than the human eye could see if we look at the intention of the art, in conjunction with his statement.

I'm pretty sure the writer's intent was to say "Hey, true believers, Surfer is moving FTL here" and not "Surfer's explicitly bragging about moving FTL, but here, he's just moving really fast". At least in my opinion.
I don't consider character statements as something absolute as writer narration. Was surfer going ftl there, maybe or maybe not? Saying that surfer went ftl in a split second when no such limits were specified is wrong though.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Surfer saying he's going FTL is not proof.

Superman saying he's got another nanosecond to go is proof.

Surfer saying he's only got another nanosecond to react is not proof.

This isn't hard. Get with the program, JakeTheBank.
Hey look who's back, its onesmartgo!! When did I said anything about surfer's nanosecond feat? Nice butthurt btw.

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/superman_nano_second_reaction.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/as603p19.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/as603p20.jpg
He's also casually held a conversation in fractions of a nano-second.
"Guess my timing was a little off"

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Surfer saying he's going FTL is not proof.

Superman saying he's got another nanosecond to go is proof.

Surfer saying he's only got another nanosecond to react is not proof.

This isn't hard. Get with the program, JakeTheBank Sr J-Bieb. Also, is there some doorway between the Daily Planet Globe and the Fortress of Solitude???

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Also, is there some doorway between the Daily Planet Globe and the Fortress of Solitude???

Apparently.

Yo.

Originally posted by Stoic
Yeah a race from one far flung destination to the other. I personally think that Quasar may be the fastest, but that's just me.

under Gruenwald, it took Elvis (Quasar) 48 months just to get to Uranus w/o using a portal.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Probably Surfer.

Nova has crossed lightyears in seconds though. So he's definitely several millions of times faster than light.

he uses an alternate means of travelling tho (same as Johns has the GL do currently); he doesnt move thru normal space to cross vast distances.




Tazer

Is this any good.
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5134/universes.jpg

Replace "Surfer" with "Superman", and only then can it be considered in any way "proof"

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
"Guess my timing was a little off"
LOL, that's all you got bieb? He said the baby would release the energy in "about a nano-second", the baby released it earlier, so he said that "his timing was off". Don't let that stop you enjoying this

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/NanosecondInteraction1.jpg

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/NanosecondInteraction2.jpg

"For a fraction of a nanosecond, an instant suspended between eternities of past and future".
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Also, is there some doorway between the Daily Planet Globe and the Fortress of Solitude???
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Apparently.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Replace "Surfer" with "Superman", and only then can it be considered in any way "proof"
Butthurt only looks good on onesmartgo bieb, not on you. LMAO at a portal between daily planet building and FOS.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
"Guess my timing was a little off" Because it went off before a nanosecond..

Originally posted by kgkg
Is this any good.
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5134/universes.jpg
Guess that little power of surfer called "dimensional travelling" is useless. In MU there is no source wall and bleed to travel through universes.

Originally posted by Juntai
Because it went off before a nanosecond..
No, no, no, superman MUST've taken an hour to complete that task, while surfer went ftl in a split second while having a conversation with a guy. Why, because its SILVER SURFER, didn't you got the memo?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Guess that little power of surfer called "dimensional travelling" is useless. In MU there is no source wall and bleed to travel through universes. http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/30sznyv.gif

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Apparently. When did Superman install a doorway from the globe to his Fortress of Solitude???

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
When did Superman install a doorway from the globe to his Fortress of Solitude???
Lulz, there is no gateway between daily planet and FOS. The baby released his energy earlier than superman suspected and that was the explosion on the globe. Superman took the baby to FOS in that nanosecond. Now try to force your bullshit here, go on.

Originally posted by kgkg
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/30sznyv.gif
Wut?

What comic are those nanosecond/Superman scans from? His emblem is black and the art looks childish (Reminds me of Supergirl: Adventures in the 8th Grade )

Originally posted by Galan007
What comic are those nanosecond/Superman scans from? His emblem is black and the art looks childish (Reminds me of Supergirl: Adventures in the 8th Grade )
Adventures of superman 603. He was wearing that emblem in grief of those who died in OWAW. The one with hal is from Action comics 642.

^ Oh it's from the "Mirror, Mirror" arc, right? Okay, that explains the horrendous artwork.

Originally posted by abhilegend
LOL, that's all you got bieb? He said the baby would release the energy in "about a nano-second", the baby released it earlier, so he said that "his timing was off". Don't let that stop you enjoying this


Butthurt only looks good on onesmartgo bieb, not on you. LMAO at a portal between daily planet building and FOS. Really? I was confused by the four panels it took for him to release said energy.

Butthurt? You mean like saying that if Surfer going as fast as he's saying is proof, then let me pull out a "lolnanoseconds" feat.

You said that Superman flew from Metropolis to the FOS in a nanosecond.

The second set of scans you showed is impressive though, I'm not going to deny that.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Really? I was confused by the four panels it took for him to release said energy.

Butthurt? You mean like saying that if Surfer going as fast as he's saying is proof, then let me pull out a "lolnanoseconds" feat.

You said that Superman flew from Metropolis to the FOS in a nanosecond.

The second set of scans you showed is impressive though, I'm not going to deny that.
You are trying too hard here bieb. Wow if it takes four panels, then it must've taken more time than a one panel conversation. What a great logic, got any proof that surfer went ftl in a split second like you claimed before?
Sure, you're acting like butthurt when you post something like "put superman instead of surfer blah, blah, blah".
That's not the only time he's overcame time dilation by sheer speed, he's done something similar in MOS 29.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Oh it's from the "Mirror, Mirror" arc, right? Okay, that explains the horrendous artwork.
Yup.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wut? Not sure why you were telling me all that.

.

Originally posted by kgkg
Not sure why you were telling me all that.
I thought you were claiming that surfer actually travelled in a single line to those universes. Are you claiming that?