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Tiamut>/=S.H.I.E.L.D Celestial>Exitar>Arishem>Mad Celestials

It took 3 Mad Celestials to breakthrough IW's FF. Doom with Aaron the Rogue Watcher's power shattered her FF by himself. I find it hard to believe those "Celestials" are anywhere near their 616 versions in terms of power output.

Anyone on Team 1 could wreck them.

if Galactus can beat them..Exitar or Tiamut can too..

Exitar, Arishem or Tiamut can all probably solo those stupid talking Celestials from another dimension.

S.H.I.E.L.D Celestial????? guy can you show me this? I never heard of it.

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Originally posted by zopzop
It took 3 Mad Celestials to breakthrough IW's FF. Doom with Aaron the Rogue Watcher's power shattered her FF by himself. I find it hard to believe those "Celestials" are anywhere near their 616 versions in terms of power output.

Anyone on Team 1 could wreck them. Your low-balling is borderline laughable.

Originally posted by zopzop
It took 3 Mad Celestials to breakthrough IW's FF. Doom with Aaron the Rogue Watcher's power shattered her FF by himself. I find it hard to believe those "Celestials" are anywhere near their 616 versions in terms of power output.

Anyone on Team 1 could wreck them.

M C are very powerful good friend

Aron the Rogue Watcher was killed by Uatu and we all know Watchers are nothing to the Celestials

Celestials are older as well

Frankie/Big G<Mad Celestials

Give em a lil props

Which is why I said from the onset...Hickman favors neither but is a good storyteller

Originally posted by Galan007
Your low-balling is borderline laughable.

What's laughable about it? It took THREE MC to bust through IW's FF. Doom with the power of a Watcher shattered it and wrecked her so badly that for a couple of issues after that event, she was straining to form any FF.

Thing survived a blast from them!

Sue's powers are derived from Hyperspace--and as was clarified/depicted in Fantastic Four #400, Celestials are extremely vulnerable to Hyperspace energies. Imo, her construct tanking a blast from a Celestial is no more impressive than a guy with Kryptonite armor tanking a punch from Superman... Unless you think IW is > the entire Council of Reeds (of whom the mad Celestials trounced off-panel.) And if that's the case, our debate is done.

And FYI, Hickman isn't going to kill-off one of the main members of the F4 right out of the gate. That's the only way to explain why/how Thing survived a blast from a Galactus-level being.... Unless you think Thing has Galactus-level durability. And if that's the case, our debate is done x2.

Originally posted by guy222
Frankie/Big G<Mad Celestials

Give em a lil props

Which is why I said from the onset...Hickman favors neither but is a good storyteller

Galactus was able to defeat one of the Mad Celestials, which means he's definitely on par with them in terms of sheer power; he's equal to at least one Celestial. They were only able to defeat him by combining their efforts and merging into Voltron Super Saiyan Celestial.

As for Franklin, don't count him out yet. Even though he generally exhibits the vulnerability of a small child (which is nothing new), Franklin's offensive power is where he excels. It's also important to point out that young Franklin has been holding back at the request of his older self, Future Franklin, who has now returned to finish things.

take down more like it

they combine not much g can do

war he won't win

older self powerful and i know that....how does he compare with tiamut who is the fulcrum's equal and no need to start that because others have a theory mine is neat

imho...he cannot stop the greatest celestial

Originally posted by Galan007
Sue's powers are derived from Hyperspace--and as was clarified/depicted in Fantastic Four #400, Celestials are extremely vulnerable to Hyperspace energies. Imo, her construct tanking a blast from a Celestial is no more impressive than a guy with Kryptonite armor tanking a punch from Superman... Unless you think IW is > the entire Council of Reeds (of whom the mad Celestials trounced off-panel.) And if that's the case, our debate is done.

That would explain it if ONE of them was pounding on her force field, but it was THREE of them. Three of them and they didn't even instantly shatter that thing. Freaking WWH did better.



Main characters die and are brought back all the time. Thor died like 3 months ago and he's back already. Wasn't Johnny "dead" too? Look at him now.

for the almighty dollar

Originally posted by zopzop
That would explain it if ONE of them was pounding on her force field, but it was THREE of them. Three of them and they didn't even instantly shatter that thing. Freaking WWH did better. Three Supermen trying to bust through a Kryptonite wall, wouldn't do any better than one Superman pounding on the same wall.

Just some food for thought.

Originally posted by zopzop
Main characters die and are brought back all the time. Thor died like 3 months ago and he's back already. Wasn't Johnny "dead" too? Look at him now. As you said: Johnny was JUST killed/resurrected. They aren't going to have ANOTHER member of the F4 die so early in the same friggin' arc--that would be laughably ridiculous. So unless you think it is within Thing's standard powerset to tank Galactus-level blasts (lulz), then the aforementioned reasoning is something you'd better start accepting.

Originally posted by guy222
Tiamut>/=S.H.I.E.L.D Celestial>Exitar>Arishem>Mad Celestials

Nuff said. It's a stomp then.

morning sun

Originally posted by Galan007
Three Supermen trying to bust through a Kryptonite wall, wouldn't do any better than one Superman pounding on the same wall.

Just some food for thought.

As you said: Johnny was JUST killed/resurrected. They aren't going to have ANOTHER member of the F4 die so early in the same friggin' arc--that would be laughably ridiculous. So unless you think it is within Thing's standard powerset to tank Galactus-level blasts (lulz), then the aforementioned reasoning is something you'd better start accepting.


That's an out-of-universe explanation though. It doesn't count.

Thor easily survived at least 2 point-blank shots from the 616 guys. Stuff like that happens. Gonna wait #604 to say for sure, but I have not seen anything in the story to suggest they are weaker than 616.

celestials>asgardians yes

Originally posted by guy222
take down more like it

they combine not much g can do

war he won't win

older self powerful and i know that....how does he compare with tiamut who is the fulcrum's equal and no need to start that because others have a theory mine is neat

imho...he cannot stop the greatest celestial


CELESTIALS OWNED!!!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/73d6894i11710/prv11710_pg4.jpg

interesting

Originally posted by Doon
CELESTIALS OWNED!!! Adult Franklin is just lucky they weren't merged! uhuh


...In all seriousness, I'm not surprised that he was able to beat them with such ease (assuming they don't reform in subsequent pages, of course.) Earlier in the series, the guy was blinking pocket universes into existence, just for the lulz.

those Celestials fail to beat kid Franklin..they had no chance against an adult Franklin who had master all of his power..

wonder if frankie can do that to tiamut hmm

Originally posted by Galan007
As you said: Johnny was JUST killed/resurrected. They aren't going to have ANOTHER member of the F4 die so early in the same friggin' arc--that would be laughably ridiculous. So unless you think it is within Thing's standard powerset to tank Galactus-level blasts (lulz), then the aforementioned reasoning is something you'd better start accepting.

Don't forget, Ben was also just killed and resurrected in the classic event "Fear Itself".

Originally posted by Cogito
Don't forget, Ben was also just killed and resurrected in the classic event "Fear Itself".

don't forget x3

IW already died in the FF arc before hickman came aboard. Talk about some members of this board wanting comics to be predictable and recursive. BORING

it was hyped to b better

listen kmc from now on just tweet marvel

they do listen and respond

Originally posted by guy222
it was hyped to b better



It's not over yet. That was only the 2nd page of a double-sized issue. There may be a couple of surprises left.

Originally posted by Doon
CELESTIALS OWNED!!!
How climatic

Originally posted by Doon
It's not over yet. That was only the 2nd page of a double-sized issue. There may be a couple of surprises left.

a surprise is always fun

admiring a new eternals series is even better

Bumped for scans. They r on first page of the huge S.H.I.E.L.D. Celestial

Still team one

Team 2, solidly.

I will have a mod merge the thread

Exitar destroys the Earth

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yay

Bump

Hope to get more responses