Battle of the Great Minds

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Prep-Man
Both teams will work together (or at least try to best the other team). I've included different types of intelligence. Magic, science, tactics, criminal, etc... If I've left anyone out let me know...

DC's team:
Led by Metron (Godly/Alien science)
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John Constantine (Magic expert, strategy, tactics)
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Rip Hunter (Master of time travel/science)
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Batman (Science/tactics)
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Ra's Al Ghul (Criminal Intelligence)
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Alexander Luthor Jr. (Multiversal, science, tactics)
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Brainiac 5 (Future tech/science)
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Epoch (Science, Time Traveler)
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vs

Prep-Man
Led By Grandmaster (Gody/Alien Intelligence)
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Reed Richards (Multiversal, Science Intelligence)
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Kang (Time Travel specialist)
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Tony Stark (Engineer, science intelligence)
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Red Skull (Criminal Intelligence)
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Dr. Doom (Magic/Science)
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Hank Pym (Scientist Supreme/Science)
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High Evolutionary (Science)
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janus77
DC stomp.

Team Marvel need Doc Ock to stand a chance!

Bouboumaster
Reed = win

janus77
On a serious note, Grandmaster isn't that impressive is he? Wouldn't even consider him to be upto Thanos levels of intellect.

JakeTheBank
Marvel.

gogogadgetgo
Doom boots everyone on his team then solos

Cogito
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Marvel.

You only say that because of Doom sneer

Kid Kurdy
Replace Grandmaster with Thanos and make Reed the leader, and team Marvel wins.

Existere
Meh, Marvel probably takes this anyways.

guy222
richards = doom

all marvel needs

Prep-Man
Originally posted by guy222
richards = doom

all marvel needs

Constantine=win for me. Better prep feats.

"Id"
Constantine isn't so much as to being smart, but a crafty douche.

Bouboumaster
Originally posted by "Id"
Constantine isn't so much as to being smart, but a crafty douche.

Yep.

Reed, on the other hands, build ridiculous shit like the Celestial Gun, or the Anti-Galactus suit.

And Grandmaster suck; Thanos ownz him. Makes him the leader, and Marvel win even harder.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Yep.

Reed, on the other hands, build ridiculous shit like the Celestial Gun, or the Anti-Galactus suit.

And Grandmaster suck; Thanos ownz him. Makes him the leader, and Marvel win even harder.

There are different types of intelligences. I never said Constantine was good at science, he is however, the craftiest in comics, because he doesn't NEED those inventions to beat foes at the level of say Galactus/Celestials, etc...

Again, apples and oranges.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Cogito
You only say that because of Doom sneer

Only reason I need. cool

Prep-Man
Originally posted by JakeTheBank Only reason I need. cool

if you dont think some of dc is in his league, you need to get your head examined. cool

Newjak
So here is my logic.

Dr. Doom wins...

Dr. Doom is on Marvel's team

Therefore Marvel wins big grin

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Newjak So here is my logic. Dr. Doom wins... Dr. Doom is on Marvel's team Therefore Marvel wins big grin

almost as dumb as batgod logic.

CosmicComet
Batgod is a false prophet.

Doom is reality. Reality is Doom.

Prep-Man
there are 3 or 4 people here that could give doom a run or defeat him if they have equal prep.

psycho gundam
and they're all on team marvel

Mindset
There are 15 people here that would be stomped by Doom.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by psycho gundam and they're all on team marvel

keep dreaming.

JakeTheBank
NewJak, Cosmic Comet, psycho gundam, and Mindset are all correct.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by JakeTheBank NewJak, Cosmic Comet, psycho gundam, and Mindset are all correct.

all i see is doom wins doom owns without any reasoning. im aware of what doom can do and no doubt hes a threat. he is great knowleadge of science and magic. but this isnt a science fair. this isnt who can build the best device or who could come up with the greater tech. and even if it were dc is prettt stacked in that regard. metron, alex, and brainiac 5 have all created tech in dooms league.

anyway, this is a prep war. which is why i pointed out different intelligences. if you believe reed or doom is better than constantine, explain why. i will post a quote on a poster who explains why constantine is the best prep character in comics later.

Bouboumaster
Doom lives because Reed Richards wants him too.

Bouboumaster
Reed win the prep-war for his team. He's like: "Hey yo, go get some shit in the closet, and throw it at team DC."
"Which gun?"
"Seriously, I don't even remember what I built. Try anything, it should do the trick."
The end.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Doom lives because Reed Richards wants him too.

Doom lives because without Doom the omniverse would collapse unto itself.

Mindset
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Doom lives because without Doom the omniverse would collapse unto itself. thumb up

On the first day Doom created himself and the universe, and he saw that it was good.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Bouboumaster Reed win the prep-war for his team. He's like: "Hey yo, go get some shit in the closet, and throw it at team DC." "Which gun?" "Seriously, I don't even remember what I built. Try anything, it should do the trick." The end.

dumb. b5 has created equally powerful devices. concenttator for example.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
NewJak, Cosmic Comet, psycho gundam, and Mindset are all correct. doom is always the correct answer

Prep-Man
nice reasoning. :/

JakeTheBank
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/MonarchofChristmas.jpg

They can't compete with such power.

Prep-Man
sigh, if you guys have nothing to add, then please leave.

Existere
Thread title doesn't make sense. Doom and Reed are on the same side. No battle involved. mmm

psycho gundam
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po my drink, bytch

Prep-Man
still waiting...

Newjak
How about this whatever team 2 comes up with Doom just steals its power like he did with Galactus.

Cogito
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Reed win the prep-war for his team. He's like: "Hey yo, go get some shit in the closet, and throw it at team DC."
"Which gun?"
"Seriously, I don't even remember what I built. Try anything, it should do the trick."
The end.

Yawn, Metron pulls out the Warlogog.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

the ninjak
Pym + Kang = impressive evasive/attack maneuvering.

They can hit any physical plane and place in reality + that places time.

Throw in Reeds weapons + Doom's magic/tactics = team appearing at any place/time with doomsday attacks + defense.

throw in StarkTech + DoomTech and you have nano-nightmare, an army of machines with tech that can hurt gods.

GrandMaster and Red Skull add extra support. And this is all in a short period of time considering teamwork.

Originally posted by janus77
DC stomp.

Team Marvel need Doc Ock to stand a chance!

Watcha got? What combined potential does Team DC supply?

Prep-Man
Originally posted by the ninjak
Pym + Kang = impressive evasive/attack maneuvering.

They can hit any physical plane and place in reality + that places time.

Throw in Reeds weapons + Doom's magic/tactics = team appearing at any place/time with doomsday attacks + defense.

throw in StarkTech + DoomTech and you have nano-nightmare, an army of machines with tech that can hurt gods.

GrandMaster and Red Skull add extra support. And this is all in a short period of time considering teamwork.



Watcha got? What combined potential does Team DC supply?

You could say the same for Rip Hunter. Rip is pretty much IMPOSSIBLE to detect. Per Degaton and the rest of his gang couldn't find him through time.

Brainiac 5 has his own cosmic weapons, Alex was smart enough to bring back the Multiverse and manipulate it on a whim and of course we have John Constantine. I rarely post other posters messages, but I feel the need, because I couldn't say this any better. It's from a Thanos vs Constantine match on another board and IMO pretty much ended the battle.

Mindset
Originally posted by Cogito
Yawn, Metron pulls out the Warlogog.

roll eyes (sarcastic) Doom pulls out Metron's esophagus.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Cogito
Yawn, Metron pulls out the Warlogog.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

thumb up People act like Marvel is the only one that can come up with cosmic devices/artifacts.

Cogito
Originally posted by Mindset
Doom pulls out Metron's esophagus.

mmm

Bouboumaster
Originally posted by Cogito
Yawn, Metron pulls out the Warlogog.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Reed fast dial Galactus, and threat him to beat the shit out of him with the Anti-Galactus suit if he don't do his job.

Prep-Man
Brainiac has Miracle Machine on speed dial and sings Reed out of existence.

Bouboumaster
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Brainiac has Miracle Machine on speed dial and sings Reed out of existence.

Reed got Reed concil on fast dial, and with that he stomp by himself team DC cool

Prep-Man
Constantine has God on speed dial and blinks them out of existence.

Bouboumaster
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Constantine has God on speed dial and blinks them out of existence.

Reed spoke to several "gods" in the past. One of them also wanted to rebuild the Universe, and he asked for the knowledge of Reed to help him do it.

Prep-Man
Weak God if you ask me. Constantine actually bested God. And he didn't need tech to do it.

Mindset
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Constantine actually bested God. And he didn't need tech to do it. Originally posted by Prep-Man
Weak God if you ask me. Heh.

Prep-Man
Hi.

Mindset
Who's there?

Prep-Man
Nobody in here that's for sure. sad

the ninjak
Because the fights over. Marvel won. You guys were in the toilet and you missed it!

Every bodies gone home.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by the ninjak
Because the fights over. Marvel won. You guys were in the toilet and you missed it!

Every bodies gone home.

thumb down

Newjak
Originally posted by Cogito
Yawn, Metron pulls out the Warlogog.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Brainiac has Miracle Machine on speed dial and sings Reed out of existence.

Originally posted by Newjak
How about this whatever team 2 comes up with Doom just steals its power like he did with Galactus.

It was all part of Doom's plan for them to do that.

no expression

Prep-Man
To get rid of Reed, huh?

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Reed fast dial Galactus, and threat him to beat the shit out of him with the Anti-Galactus suit if he don't do his job. Originally posted by Prep-Man
Brainiac has Miracle Machine on speed dial and sings Reed out of existence. Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Reed got Reed concil on fast dial, and with that he stomp by himself team DC cool Originally posted by Prep-Man
Constantine has God on speed dial and blinks them out of existence. Spider-man doesn't have a phone he still takes everyone here.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Spider-man doesn't have a phone he still takes everyone here.

Constantine would likely give Peter cancer. That never goes away. big grin

Sin I AM
great thread idea............to bad it was trolled up

the ninjak
Originally posted by Prep-Man
thumb down

I'd be pissed too.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Constantine would likely give Peter cancer. That never goes away. big grin

Peters a walking Chemotherapy patient. Cancer ain't doing squat. The guy healed vampirism like a champ.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Reed got Reed concil on fast dial, and with that he stomp by himself team DC cool

Councils dead.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Sin I AM
great thread idea............to bad it was trolled up

Too bad indeed.

Parmaniac
These prep war threads boil down to a handful of Deus Ex machina devies all the time.

Newjak
Originally posted by Sin I AM
great thread idea............to bad it was trolled up It's the same problem when you put a lot of super powerful people altogether in a match.

Realistically these guys can be so close and everyone do such outrageous things that it can have so many outcomes and each one will be legit. You wanna break out the Miracle machine, I'm sure someone has a scan of someone being able to instantly control all tech in the area. Bring out the Worlog I'm sure Kang can do something with that.

Bring out Reed's numerous Plot Device weapons and I'm sure DC has something to counter them.

I pick Doom to win cause I like him a lot and besides its fun, and honestly he also has the ability to potentionally steal any high level power the other team comes up with like he has done in the past. He also could be the most versatile person in the entire field cause he tends to dabble in just about everything here.

But mostly it's because he's Doom and I like Doom. You could come up with reasons why that isn't so but honestly the field is to large these guys are all super geniuses or prep guys.

Maybe in certain areas some are better than others but nothing that is going to dramatically tip the scales.

janus77
I do feel Marvel is handicapped here, so many middling "brains" that don't compare with the more stacked DC ones.

Grandmaster is mediocre, like Champion for the Chess-set. Pym is good but nothing godly in the genius stakes (ants ffs?? and growing really large and vulnerable??), similarly Red Skull is weak and wouldn't even trouble someone like Batman, nevermind the serious brains.

Anyway, if Reed and Doom are at their best, they might make a contest of each encounter, but I see DC winning each one.

oh and Doc Ock was a joke... just alluding to the inclusion of mediocrities in the Marvel line-up.


imo Thanos, Banner and The Leader would have been better picks for each of them.

the ninjak
Originally posted by janus77
Pym is good but nothing godly in the genius stakes (ants ffs?? and growing really large and vulnerable??),

Dude. Pym tech created the Infinite Mansion that had doors that could bring combatants out anywhere in the physical plane, even amongst the many planes that reside around them. Mixed with Kang's Time Traveling tech and you have pretty impressive attack feats. If Pym hands Pym tech over to the other combatants they can dump them in different levels of planes. Like when Pym dumped Absorbing Man amongst the Cosmic Entities just by touching him.

-Pr-
Originally posted by janus77
Pym is good but nothing godly in the genius stakes (ants ffs?? and growing really large and vulnerable??)

You can't be serious.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Parmaniac
These prep war threads boil down to a handful of Deus Ex machina devies all the time.

Not really. Like I have said countless times, Constantine doesn't need those devices. Constantine is a Prep GOD. I'll list a few feats:

Constantine has bested the First of the fallen (most powerful entity of Hell) five times or more.

He made the triumverate of Hell heal him from his lung cancer

Made the Almighty (then now called Presence) do his bidding ( basically by saying he would take over Hell and the almighty didn't like the idea of someone with Constantine's shrewdness running hell (he had no problem believing he could take it over)

He made the Angel Gabriel (head of the angelic hosts and equal to Micheal and Lucifer) his slave and puppet

He's beaten just about every high demonic power he's encountered.

That's why Constantine is pretty much better than the rest. It's what he does and has his own series to prove it. He basically beats beings 10000 times more powerful WITHOUT those insane devices. Without that level of power.

Existere
Originally posted by Prep-Man
That's why Constantine is pretty much better than the rest. It's what he does and has his own series to prove it. He basically beats beings 10000 times more powerful WITHOUT those insane devices. Without that level of power. Yeah, and he does it through the manipulation and careful adherence to a set of rules and limitations that nobody in this thread is bound to.

Constantine's feats are all very scenario specific and don't transfer well to forum matches.

Oh, and Doom wins.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Existere
Yeah, and he does it through the manipulation and careful adherence to a set of rules and limitations that nobody in this thread is bound to.

Constantine's feats are all very scenario specific and don't transfer well to forum matches.

Oh, and Doom wins.

Even with a few moments of prep, DCnU Constantine was able to take Superman down on his knees, own Andrew with a mini sun he carries with him, and was the main one who took down Enchantress. With a few days prep he can make a deal with pretty much anyone, including God if he wanted to, make him immune to time manipulation, and come up with pretty much any spell he wanted to.
He's pretty much prepared for anything.

Constantine gets my vote.

cdtm
The biggest guns on either side, imo:

Marvel:

Doom and Reed.

DC side:

Metron and Brainiac 5.

The rest are largely irrelevant, imo. At least compared to these folks.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by cdtm
The biggest guns on either side, imo:

Marvel:

Doom and Reed.

DC side:

Metron and Brainiac 5.

The rest are largely irrelevant, imo. At least compared to these folks.

You think Alex is irrelevant? He has arguably created the greatest scientific device in comics. Something that not only brought back the Multiverse, but was able to manipulate it on a whim.

His last appearance had him bring back (I believe all the dead worlds) destroyed by Omega ON THE FLY. He's basically Reed on crack.

He also owned Lex Luthor and told him he was him only better.

Bouboumaster
Originally posted by cdtm
The biggest guns on either side, imo:

Marvel:

Reed. And no one else.

DC side:

No one.

The rest are largely irrelevant, imo. At least compared to these folks.

Fixed.

Prep-Man
Still trolling, I see.

cdtm
I only read him in Infinite Crisis, but that sounds impressive.

Does Metrons fourth world feats apply, or no?

Prep-Man
Originally posted by cdtm
I only read him in Infinite Crisis, but that sounds impressive.

Does Metrons fourth world feats apply, or no?

His last feat was in one of Robinson's last JLA arcs.

Any and all Metron's feats apply. Since, the crisis didn't affect him. What else has he done?

And creating the Worlogog is definitely up there as well.

Brainiac 5's build the Concentrator. A device that manipulated EVERY JOUL of energy in the universe to do whatever he wanted with it.

cdtm
The Crisis didn't affect him, but he was killed.. No telling if this "new" Metron is the same character, or someone new the Source being made, without the originals history and only the name in common..

Sin I AM
Originally posted by Newjak
It's the same problem when you put a lot of super powerful people altogether in a match.

Realistically these guys can be so close and everyone do such outrageous things that it can have so many outcomes and each one will be legit. You wanna break out the Miracle machine, I'm sure someone has a scan of someone being able to instantly control all tech in the area. Bring out the Worlog I'm sure Kang can do something with that.

Bring out Reed's numerous Plot Device weapons and I'm sure DC has something to counter them.

I pick Doom to win cause I like him a lot and besides its fun, and honestly he also has the ability to potentionally steal any high level power the other team comes up with like he has done in the past. He also could be the most versatile person in the entire field cause he tends to dabble in just about everything here.

But mostly it's because he's Doom and I like Doom. You could come up with reasons why that isn't so but honestly the field is to large these guys are all super geniuses or prep guys.

Maybe in certain areas some are better than others but nothing that is going to dramatically tip the scales.


true i suppose things would have been better if the op made specific matches with specific combatants...as is its too much stuff up un the air to speculate a clear winner

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