Wonder Man vs. DCnU Superman

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JakeTheBank
Ionic Simon.

Random Encounter.

Prep-Man
So far? Wonder Man. Superman's indestructible suit will help him, though.

abhilegend
I expect better than this from you jake.

JakeTheBank
How so?

carver9
Which Wonderman? Is this Ionic?

JakeTheBank
Read the OP, brah. Though, really, imo, Simon's been about the same power level regardless of whether he's fully Ionized or not since the past decade or so.

carver9
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Read the OP, brah. Though, really, imo, Simon's been about the same power level regardless of whether he's fully Ionized or not since the past decade or so.

My bad and yes I agree and it was also stated that Simon hits as hard as Sentry. Then his latest showing before being trapped by Ironman in a energy field was pretty impressive. Ionic takes this, non Ionic would be a good fight.

abhilegend
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How so?
Superman has almost no feat comparable to simon at this point.

JakeTheBank
Like I said, Simon's been consistently portrayed as a 2nd stringer "I'm no Thor" class brick for over a decade. And Simon busted out of jail, too, after trying to win over Beast to his cause.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has almost no feat comparable to simon at this point.

I respectively disagree. DCnU's established quite a bit of their characters, especially the major ones, to be able to get a sense of where they stand. I don't think he shouldn't be used in Versus threads just because he doesn't have as much of a developed feat catalog as Pre-Flashpoint Superman. There are some alternate forms of Superman (and other characters) with fewer appearances total than DCnU Superman that are placed in threads all the time.

abhilegend
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I respectively disagree. DCnU's established quite a bit of their characters, especially the major ones, to be able to get a sense of where they stand. I don't think he shouldn't be used in Versus threads just because he doesn't have as much of a developed feat catalog as Pre-Flashpoint Superman. There are some alternate forms of Superman (and other characters) with fewer appearances total than DCnU Superman that are placed in threads all the time.
All of them have at least some quantifiable feat to their name. DCnU superman has none. Its basically a spite thread.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by abhilegend
All of them have at least some quantifiable feat to their name. DCnU superman has none. Its basically a spite thread.

That is going way too far to call it "spite".

If that's the case, you'd think Wonder Man would solo DCnU Darkseid and/or the DCnU League?

abhilegend
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
That is going way too far to call it "spite".

If that's the case, you'd think Wonder Man would solo DCnU Darkseid and/or the DCnU League?
They don't have a single quantifiable feat to use in threads! Superman is strong as he broke hal's constructs, how durable are hal's shield 5 yrs ago? Don't know. How fast flash is 5 yrs ago? Don't know. They are unusable at this point. Heck even after 7 issues, its not clear whether diana can fly or not!

hunbu04
Gave me a break Wonderman is a complete Joke. When he win one fight over a top tier/Herald level character than we will start taking him seriously. DCnu superman may not have a lot of feats but we still know that he is almost as fast as the flash. strong and durable enough to take shots from Darkseid will little damage. It doesn't matter if flash have many feat yet. He is still the fastest man in DCnu and superman is almost as fast.

-Pr-
It's not spite, so please, stay on topic guys.

lol @ Simon hitting as hard as Sentry though.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I respectively disagree. DCnU's established quite a bit of their characters, especially the major ones, to be able to get a sense of where they stand. I don't think he shouldn't be used in Versus threads just because he doesn't have as much of a developed feat catalog as Pre-Flashpoint Superman. There are some alternate forms of Superman (and other characters) with fewer appearances total than DCnU Superman that are placed in threads all the time. http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/lzcjfxt1Q11qaboh9o3_250.gif

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by hunbu04
Gave me a break Wonderman is a complete Joke. When he win one fight over a top tier/Herald level character than we will start taking him seriously. DCnu superman may not have a lot of feats but we still know that he is almost as fast as the flash. strong and durable enough to take shots from Darkseid will little damage. It doesn't matter if flash have many feat yet. He is still the fastest man in DCnu and superman is almost as fast.

Ok?

Silent Master
Originally posted by hunbu04
Gave me a break Wonderman is a complete Joke. When he win one fight over a top tier/Herald level character than we will start taking him seriously. DCnu superman may not have a lot of feats but we still know that he is almost as fast as the flash. strong and durable enough to take shots from Darkseid will little damage. It doesn't matter if flash have many feat yet. He is still the fastest man in DCnu and superman is almost as fast.

Heck, you could give Simon the belt of strength + the power gem and Superman would still win, right?

biensalsa
In due time Happy Dance

Philosophía
Superman.

Batman-Prime
Originally posted by abhilegend
They don't have a single quantifiable feat to use in threads! Superman is strong as he broke hal's constructs, how durable are hal's shield 5 yrs ago? Don't know. How fast flash is 5 yrs ago? Don't know. They are unusable at this point. Heck even after 7 issues, its not clear whether diana can fly or not!

Even so DCnU Superman is at least as strong as WBH, he doesn't needs the feats, he is superman... wink

carver9
Every body wants to be like Hulk...ain't happening.

Batman-Prime
Originally posted by carver9
Every body wants to be like Hulk...ain't happening.

Hulk wanted to be like the original, Solomon Grundy wink

carver9
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hulk wanted to be like the original, Solomon Grundy wink

Hulk thigh muscle>>Grundy. Hulk is Grundy role model.

Batman-Prime
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk thigh muscle>>Grundy. Hulk is Grundy role model.

Actually Grund came first and was the inspiration for Hulk, maybe you should change your believe and worship Grund now^^.

carver9
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Actually Grund came first and was the inspiration for Hulk, maybe you should change your believe and worship Grund now^^.

Hhhhmmm, you might have a point.




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Naah, I will stay with Hulk since he is far more powerful.

Batman-Prime
Originally posted by carver9
Hhhhmmm, you might have a point.




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Naah, I will stay with Hulk since he is far more powerful.

A young rather inexperienced Superman who beat Grundy after becoming serious, yeah Superman would stomp your puny Hulk, Grund would too btw ^^.

As for this thread, Superman every time. WM will never be in the same league.

JakeTheBank
So this thread is either spite against DCnU Superman because of lack of feats...

Or DCnU Superman wins because he's Superman, feats be damned.

laughing

no expression

carver9
Lol.

Batman-Prime
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So this thread is either spite against DCnU Superman because of lack of feats...

Or DCnU Superman wins because he's Superman, feats be damned.

laughing

no expression

thumb up Blame the fool who made the thread vin

JakeTheBank
In light of recent feats, bump for great justice.

-Pr-
Originally posted by abhilegend
I expect better than this from you jake.

JakeTheBank
laughing out loud

I honestly think it's a good fight.

Horrificus
Originally posted by -Pr-
It's not spite, so please, stay on topic guys.

lol @ Simon hitting as hard as Sentry though. The first guy ever to beat an Ultron by himself, through sheer strength alone.

pym-ftw
Simon

Horrificus
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
laughing out loud

I honestly think it's a good fight. It is a good fight. Wonder Man was created to be Marvel's flightless version of Superman.

Wonder Man feats-

1. Defeating Ultron
2. Lift Pressing 50,000 Tons
3. Was more than a match for Thor without Thor calling upon Mjolnir's powers.
4. Non-bloodlusted Simon fought Professor Hulk to a stand-still.
5. Lifted and held an entire island in mid-air.
6. Shattered Green Lantern's Shield.
7. Able to shrug off Ultron's blasts.
8. His hitting power has been compared to Thor's Hammer Strike's as well as punches of Sentry.

... just off the top of my head.

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