Gladiator and Beta Ray Bill vs Black Bolt and Thor

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Damborgson
Who takes it?

carver9
Good fight.

Damborgson
Yep, I think so. You have a pick??

carver9
Originally posted by Damborgson
Yep, I think so. You have a pick??


Naah, overall I give Thor the advantage over anyone on the opposing team but I give anyone on the opposing team the advantage over Black Bolt. This could go either way imo. Undecided.

abhilegend
Split.

Bouboumaster
Didn't Gladiator trashed Black Bolt during War of kings?

Damborgson
Gladiator had help and they used weakness exploitation on Black Bolt if I remember correctly.

Tony Stark
Team 1

DTM
Ill go with Team 1, as I dont think Black Bolt can reliably hang with these Heavy Hitters.

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by DTM
Ill go with Team 1, as I dont think Black Bolt can reliably hang with these Heavy Hitters.

Beat Hulk every time they've fought. Sentry didn't want to fight him fearing the collateral damage if they fought. Bolt has put Gladiator down before. He's got the power to take any of these guys down. He can hang with any of them. Split for both.

dmills
Where does this bullshit lie about the king not being able to bang with the heavyweights keep coming from? He's beaten just about all of them except Thor and that was because of a plot device.

Glorificus
Gladiator speed blitzes.

JakeTheBank
Team 2.

Thor can and has beat anyone on team 1 and is the most powerful combatant here. Black Bolt not being able to hang with top tiers is bullshit, to be frank.

jalek moye
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Didn't Gladiator trashed Black Bolt during War of kings?

Prior to be hit with white noise, he had over powered Glads and was choking him after the latter attacked him

Rage.Of.Olympus
Split or edge to Team 2. Bill, Gladiator and Black Bolt are peers with the individual match ups being close, but if I had to chose, Thor would get the nod over either Bill or Gladiator.

carver9
Thor>Gladiator>Bill=Black Bolt. If it came down to it, either of these combatants can beat the other. Didn't Black Bolt have the edge against Thor until Thor hit his antenna?

dmills
Originally posted by carver9
Thor>Gladiator>Bill=Black Bolt. If it came down to it, either of these combatants can beat the other. Didn't Black Bolt have the edge against Thor until Thor hit his antenna?

How do you give glads the edge over BB when he's beaten or has held an advantage him every time they've faced off? There isn't a single encounter that I can recall where glads has looked better.

Slaanesh
split..this team is equally powerful..

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by dmills
How do you give glads the edge over BB when he's beaten or has held an advantage him every time they've faced off? There isn't a single encounter that I can recall where glads has looked better.

Carverithmatics.

Damborgson
Originally posted by carver9
Thor>Gladiator>Bill=Black Bolt. If it came down to it, either of these combatants can beat the other. Didn't Black Bolt have the edge against Thor until Thor hit his antenna? i twas pretty even actually. Thor just found a way to end it quicker.

Originally posted by Glorificus
Gladiator speed blitzes.

No sir

carver9
Originally posted by dmills
How do you give glads the edge over BB when he's beaten or has held an advantage him every time they've faced off? There isn't a single encounter that I can recall where glads has looked better.

Gladiator fears BB voice and avoids it at any cost. Those are the time hes been defeated by Bolt. Even Sentry fears facing BB. Black Bolt has beaten everyone he has faced down to Hulk, Magneto, Sphinx, Gladiator, one shot Thing, and the list goes on but overall, Gladiator is just superior imo.

I also remember that scene where Gladiator took on both Black Bolt and Quasar and had the lead over them.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by carver9
Thor>Gladiator>Bill=Black Bolt. If it came down to it, either of these combatants can beat the other. Didn't Black Bolt have the edge against Thor until Thor hit his antenna?

Not really.

The three are peers (Bill =/> Black Bolt =/> Gladiator). Your ranking is especially flawed since Black Bolt has looked equal or better against Gladiator in all of their confrontations. Barring the scene where the Guard member depowered Black Bolt but even then, he looked like he had the edge earlier.

Also, no, Black Bolt didn't have the advantage. You either have some really shitty memory or are lying.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt6.jpg

carver9
Originally posted by Damborgson
i twas pretty even actually. Thor just found a way to end it quicker.



No sir

Who do you think would have won if the fight kept going?

carver9
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not really.

The three are peers (Bill =/> Black Bolt =/> Gladiator).

Also, no, Black Bolt didn't have the advantage. You either have some really shitty memory or are trolling.

Rage, this is your opinion. Bill isn't greater than Black Bolt by the way and he sure as hell is greater than Gladiator but again, this is your opinion.

dmills
Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator fears BB voice and avoids it at any cost. Those are the time hes been defeated by Bolt. Even Sentry fears facing BB. Black Bolt has beaten everyone he has faced down to Hulk, Magneto, Sphinx, Gladiator, one shot Thing, and the list goes on but overall, Gladiator is just superior imo.

I also remember that scene where Gladiator took on both Black Bolt and Quasar and had the lead over them.

You don't need to list the king's greatest hits list to me, I know it like the back of my hand. I'm just confused as to your reasoning behind giving Glads the edge.

Damborgson
Originally posted by carver9
Who do you think would have won if the fight kept going?

Thor. He'd have one of those kick it up a notch moments and take the King out.

dmills
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not really.

The three are peers (Bill =/> Black Bolt =/> Gladiator). Your ranking is especially flawed since Black Bolt has looked equal or better against Gladiator in all of their confrontations. Barring the scene where the Guard member depowered Black Bolt but even then, he looked like he had the edge earlier.

Also, no, Black Bolt didn't have the advantage. You either have some really shitty memory or are lying.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt6.jpg

Phucking terrible.

carver9
Originally posted by dmills
You don't need to list the king's greatest hits list to me, I know it like the back of my hand. I'm just confused as to your reasoning behind giving Glads the edge.

Because Glads is stronger, faster, more durable, and a better fighter. Black Bolt edge is his versatility. Every fight BB has won against Gladiator has been using his voice.

Damborgson
Originally posted by carver9
Because Glads is stronger, faster, more durable, and a better fighter. Black Bolt edge is his versatility. Every fight BB has won against Gladiator has been using his voice.

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Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by carver9
Rage, this is your opinion. Bill isn't greater than Black Bolt by the way and he sure as hell is greater than Gladiator but again, this is your opinion.

If I had to chose, I'd pick Bill over either Gladiator or Black Bolt for the most part.

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator fears BB voice and avoids it at any cost. Those are the time hes been defeated by Bolt. Even Sentry fears facing BB. Black Bolt has beaten everyone he has faced down to Hulk, Magneto, Sphinx, Gladiator, one shot Thing, and the list goes on but overall, Gladiator is just superior imo.

I also remember that scene where Gladiator took on both Black Bolt and Quasar and had the lead over them.

Scans? I'm pretty certain that didn't happen. Make sure I'm not online before making stuff up.

Also, lol at Gladiator being superior to Black Bolt.

jalek moye
Originally posted by carver9
Because Glads is stronger, faster, more durable, and a better fighter. Black Bolt edge is his versatility. Every fight BB has won against Gladiator has been using his voice. Yet in every fight he also went hand to hand just fine

dmills
Originally posted by carver9
Because Glads is stronger, faster, more durable, and a better fighter. Black Bolt edge is his versatility. Every fight BB has won against Gladiator has been using his voice.

Hahahahaha!

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by dmills
Phucking terrible.

Thor was gonna win that shit one way or another. At least Bolt has an out there and we can speculate that Mjolnir's energy manipulating capabilities had an adverse effect on Black Bolt's energy manipulation.

dmills
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If I had to chose, I'd pick Bill over either Gladiator or Black Bolt for the most part.



Scans? I'm pretty certain that didn't happen. Make sure I'm not online before making stuff up.

Also, lol at Gladiator being superior to Black Bolt.

Scans of what?

Rage.Of.Olympus
All of their encounters (Thanks to Thorion):


I'd also like to point out, that in the second fight, Black Bolt had been in agony just moments ago:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/shiar5.jpg

Originally posted by dmills
Scans of what?

Of Gladiator apparently having the edge over both Black Bolt and Quasar.

dmills
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor was gonna win that shit one way or another. At least Bolt has an out there and we can speculate that Mjolnir's energy manipulating capabilities had an adverse effect on Black Bolt's energy manipulation.

I got no issue with BB losing to Thor. As a fan I just hate to see it being in a cop out fashion on the part of the writers. Give us a good fight and let the chips fall where they may.

carver9
Originally posted by jalek moye
Yet in every fight he also went hand to hand just fine

I never said he was weak. Gladiator fears him though, I can tell by looking at their fights.

dmills
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
All of their encounters (Thanks to Thorion):


I'd also like to point out, that in the second fight, Black Bolt had been in agony just moments ago:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/shiar5.jpg



Of Gladiator apparently having the edge over both Black Bolt and Quasar.

Oh. It's actually in the scene that takes place prior to the first set of scans that you posted. Much ado about nothing though. Carver over throwing the ball as usual.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by dmills
Oh. It's actually in the scene that takes place prior to the first set of scans that you posted. Much ado about nothing though. Carver over throwing the ball as usual.

Can you post the scan? Unless my comic is missing a page, I don't see Gladiator even taking on both Quasar and Black Bolt much less winning. Once he teleports in, he takes Gladiator out of the picture and by the time the Praetor returns, Lockjaw teleports him out.

Bouboumaster
Team 1 6/10

dmills
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Can you post the scan? Unless my comic is missing a page, I don't see Gladiator even taking on both Quasar and Black Bolt much less winning. Once he teleports in, he takes Gladiator out of the picture and by the time the Praetor returns, Lockjaw teleports him out.

No prob. I gotta dig through my Photobucket for the scan. Gimme a minute.

guy222
cool

dmills
Man I can't find this freaking thing at all!

Greysen93
Team 2, very close though in my opinion

Philosophía
Bump. I'd go with T2.

ShadowFyre
Good match, I feel like this fight could easily go either way depending on the circumstances.

deft
Close, but my vote is for the team 2

Damborgson
Oh God it's from 2012, i wont look.

abhilegend
Thor is the weakest, Bolt has to carry team 2.

Damborgson
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor is the weakest, Bolt has to carry team 2.

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abhilegend
ermm

ShadowFyre
Which company is that? Cool, but I think you posted wrong video bro. I know you gotta lot.

ShadowFyre
Originally posted by abhilegend
ermm



He probably just posted the wrong one.

Damborgson
I'm not sure what company it is, the series is "God is dead" though, by Hickman of all people.

And the Norse get absolutely plowed for their treachery later on.

abhilegend
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
He probably just posted the wrong one.
I don't think so. Dambo is still cool though.

Damborgson
Was hoping youd chuckle, tbh 😅

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
. You either have some really shitty memory or are lying.


I wonder which one it is.

Philosophía
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I wonder which one it is. How can one have memory of something he does not read?

Wonder Man
Dream

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