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Fisk at his peak when he was overpowering Spidey, people were hurting themselves hitting him, and he'd shrug off billy club strikes to the head and such, vs Danny from his earliest days when he could only use an Iron Fist two or three times in a day, and over using it drains him.

Who wins?

If Wilson gets the opportunity to grab Danny it's most likely over, but if Danny can keep his distance he should take the majority. Most fights with bigger slower opponents end up as ground wars so I'm giving classic Fisk the win here.

Fisk 7/10

If Danny is able to punch him then it's over.

IF 10/10

Originally posted by Mindset
If Danny is able to punch him then it's over.

IF 10/10

I actually think that back in that day they would actually have Fist tank the ironfist.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I actually think that back in that day they would actually have Fist tank the ironfist. Nah Fist ftw

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I actually think that back in that day they would actually have Fist tank the ironfist.


Exactly. Fisk used to take full powered hits from Spiderman, and nearly always almost won the fights that they had.

OK, IF punches better and harder than Spiderman though.

Originally posted by Mindset
OK, IF punches better and harder than Spiderman though.

Only if Ironfist gets to punch him, and Fisk doesn't turn it into a ground fight. The fact that WF was able to take hits from classic Spidey, and beat the Red Skull shows that even in Danny hit him, that he could remain conscious long enough to grab him. Classic Fisk is stronger than Danny.

If Danny could unleash an IF to his noggin then Danny but I'll give this to fisk 7-8/10

Old School Fisk demolishes old Danny
Current Danny would be a whole other matter

Fisk wins.Classic Danny's IF is only class 10 IIRC. Both spiderman's fist are, and he's faster.

Originally posted by Stoic
Only if Ironfist gets to punch him, and Fisk doesn't turn it into a ground fight. The fact that WF was able to take hits from classic Spidey, and beat the Red Skull shows that even in Danny hit him, that he could remain conscious long enough to grab him. Classic Fisk is stronger than Danny. Originally posted by Mshinu
Old School Fisk demolishes old Danny
Current Danny would be a whole other matter Originally posted by namorsubby
Fisk wins.Classic Danny's IF is only class 10 IIRC. Both spiderman's fist are, and he's faster. Obviously hasn't read classic IF comics.

IF punches harder than Spiderman on his best day. Always has, always will. Comparing Red Skull to IF makes even less sense than comparing Spiderman to IF. IF is a much better martial artist than Spiderman as well.

Originally posted by Mindset
Obviously hasn't read classic IF comics.

IF punches harder than Spiderman on his best day. Always has, always will. Comparing Red Skull to IF makes even less sense than comparing Spiderman to IF. IF is a much better martial artist than Spiderman as well.

Spidey got caught up in his own webbing once, and couldn't break free.

But old school Danny could, when calling on the Iron Fist.

Btw, did you know about those old Iron Fist showings in the pages of Namor? I didn't, until recently.. Namor had trouble with Lei Kung, the Thunderer (Who wasn't at 100% to boot), and got taken down by those H'ylthri tree like aliens. And Danny, weakened, he just tears through them.

Maybe modern Danny really could take Namor...

Originally posted by Mindset
Obviously hasn't read classic IF comics.

IF punches harder than Spiderman on his best day. Always has, always will. Comparing Red Skull to IF makes even less sense than comparing Spiderman to IF. IF is a much better martial artist than Spiderman as well. with one amped hand you mean.lol

Fisk bearhugs the hell out Danny.

Originally posted by namorsubby
with one amped hand you mean.lol

Fisk bearhugs the hell out Danny. Yes, with his one amped fist that will hit KP...

I'm sorry, but you're dense if you think one of the best martial artists isn't going to be able to punch KP. Danny is a better fighter than KP.

Classic fisk gets ahold of spidey all the time. He can definitely get ahold of Danny. After that, well, he'll need to clean the floors.

One strike from IF, and it's over... He shit-stomped the entire Wrecking Crew in his classic days.

Fist has always been able to punch with more power than spidey. One Ironfist to the dome and down goes fisk

Originally posted by namorsubby
Classic fisk gets ahold of spidey all the time. He can definitely get ahold of Danny. After that, well, he'll need to clean the floors. That's nice.

Spiderman also hit Fisk all the time, the difference is IF will put him down much easier.

Spiderman beat Fisk, IF will beat him easier.

Originally posted by Mindset
Obviously hasn't read classic IF comics.

IF punches harder than Spiderman on his best day. Always has, always will. Comparing Red Skull to IF makes even less sense than comparing Spiderman to IF. IF is a much better martial artist than Spiderman as well.

Classic Fisk was a monster, loosing to him is no shame. He wiped the floor with Cap too (way more impressive than humiliating bugboy IMO)

Originally posted by Galan007
One strike from IF, and it's over...
http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11700227_2.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11700228_3.jpg
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http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11700229_IronFist14-011.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11700230_IronFist14-012-13.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/11700231_IronFist14-014.jpg

But this is classic Danny.

Marvel Premier, Claremont series, maybe Power Man and Iron Fist at the most.

Originally posted by cdtm
But this is classic Danny.

Marvel Premier, Claremont series, maybe Power Man and Iron Fist at the most. Doesn't change anything. Even classic Danny shattered Thunderball's indestructible wrecking ball, with his iron fist.

KP ain't tanking that.

Originally posted by Mindset
That's nice.

Spiderman also hit Fisk all the time, the difference is IF will put him down much easier.

Spiderman beat Fisk, IF will beat him easier. classic IF punching feats to validate? I know before IF wasn't as powerful.

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7904/ifwc3.th.jpg http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3292/ifwc4.th.jpg

Danny has just 2-3 uses of the IF so he must wait for an opening without getting grabbed, I am still giving this to Fisk.

Originally posted by namorsubby
classic IF punching feats to validate? I know before IF wasn't as powerful.

drops a foe captain hero(super skrull) couldn't
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/jalekmoye/Danny%20respect%20thread/striking%20power/64420_bres2_122_546lo.jpg

destroys a building by punching the ground
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/jalekmoye/Danny%20respect%20thread/striking%20power/IronFist06-21.jpg

Drops drunk Herc
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/jalekmoye/Danny%20respect%20thread/striking%20power/24611_hercy_122_465lo.jpg


A non iron fist punch damages sabertooth
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/jalekmoye/Danny%20respect%20thread/fights/90723_mcptooth10_122_437lo.jpg


Yea, Classic Danny will still mess Fisk up

Danny.

Originally posted by jalek moye
drops a foe captain hero(super skrull) couldn't
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/jalekmoye/Danny%20respect%20thread/striking%20power/64420_bres2_122_546lo.jpg

destroys a building by punching the ground
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/jalekmoye/Danny%20respect%20thread/striking%20power/IronFist06-21.jpg

Drops drunk Herc
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/jalekmoye/Danny%20respect%20thread/striking%20power/24611_hercy_122_465lo.jpg


A non iron fist punch damages sabertooth
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/jalekmoye/Danny%20respect%20thread/fights/90723_mcptooth10_122_437lo.jpg


Yea, Classic Danny will still mess Fisk up let fisk get ahold of him, and he'll mess him up.

Originally posted by jalek moye
drops a foe captain hero(super skrull) couldn't
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/jalekmoye/Danny%20respect%20thread/striking%20power/64420_bres2_122_546lo.jpg

destroys a building by punching the ground
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/jalekmoye/Danny%20respect%20thread/striking%20power/IronFist06-21.jpg

Drops drunk Herc
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/jalekmoye/Danny%20respect%20thread/striking%20power/24611_hercy_122_465lo.jpg


A non iron fist punch damages sabertooth
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/jalekmoye/Danny%20respect%20thread/fights/90723_mcptooth10_122_437lo.jpg


Yea, Classic Danny will still mess Fisk up personally think your underestimating the big man but that is your prerogative.

Originally posted by namorsubby
let fisk get ahold of him, and he'll mess him up.

Never said that, you wanted punching feats to show he will damage him much easier then spider-man. So I showed you some, and Galan showed you the wrecker one so I left it out.

Classic Fisk could hurt him, not arguing that. Arguing against the notion of classic Fist not hurting him

Originally posted by jalek moye
Never said that, you wanted punching feats to show he will damage him much easier then spider-man. So I showed you some, and Galan showed you the wrecker one so I left it out.

Classic Fisk could hurt him, not arguing that. Arguing against the notion of classic Fist not hurting him I fully believe fist will hurt fisk. I just don't think he'll put the man down before getting put down.

Originally posted by Uriel005
I fully believe fist will hurt fisk. I just don't think he'll put the man down before getting put down. Why not?

He hits way harder than Spiderman who is able to put him down.

He is also a much better martial artist than Spiderman, which is one of the edges Fisk had over Pete.

IF not winning the majority at least is ridiculous.

Gotta give this to Iron Fist. If Fisk gets hold of him, Fisk should win, but I give the majority to Iron Fist.

Originally posted by Mindset
Why not?

He hits way harder than Spiderman who is able to put him down.

He is also a much better martial artist than Spiderman, which is one of the edges Fisk had over Pete.

IF not winning the majority at least is ridiculous. you're over-looking spideys advantages over him. He's faster, more agile, and stronger in general, but fisk was still able to get hold of him on many occasions, even seeming to physically overpower him.

Classic vs Classic

Fisk is going to endure what he needs too for the majority. It's a martial arts thing... They are both going to want to test their mettle against each other. That means IF is going to be in close quarters and although he is quite fast he's nowhere near Spiderman fast, nor strong.

Fisk has had little issues putting his hands on Pete. The same will be said for IF. I do believe that IF could put Fisk down but, knowing this can Fisk defense against it? I think so.

Current IF vs Classic Fisk The Living Weapon wins handily.

If calssic IF doesn't use his ironfist move (albeit weaker then it is now) he will get worked owned.

Originally posted by Stoic
Only if Ironfist gets to punch him, and Fisk doesn't turn it into a ground fight. The fact that WF was able to take hits from classic Spidey, and beat the Red Skull shows that even in Danny hit him, that he could remain conscious long enough to grab him. Classic Fisk is stronger than Danny.

Do you think Fisk could take one of these?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/LukeCagePowerMan48-10.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/LukeCagePowerMan48-11.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/LukeCagePowerMan48-13.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/LukeCagePowerMan48-14.jpg

lol, the look on those thugs faces is priceless.

This is from back when Power Man was a solo series, so I'd consider this classic Fist.

Classic Danny still one-shotted Luke cage. He wins here 7/10.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I actually think that back in that day they would actually have Fist tank the ironfist.

Not if they didn't let Colossus tank it.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k10/paladin_04/fist.jpg

danny would take this unless fisk got him in his bear hug. but he would not simply tank the IF. no way.....

Originally posted by cdtm
Do you think Fisk could take one of these?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/LukeCagePowerMan48-10.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/LukeCagePowerMan48-11.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/LukeCagePowerMan48-13.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/LukeCagePowerMan48-14.jpg

lol, the look on those thugs faces is priceless.

This is from back when Power Man was a solo series, so I'd consider this classic Fist.


With no PIS, I give this to classic Dan. Even classic Fisk isn't as durable as classic Cage. The punch shown in those scans would wreck any version of KK.
Classic would be knock out and hospitalised. Current Fisk would die.

Classic IF hits harder than what classic fist has ever endured (yes including spider-man's fist). One hit and it's potentially game over.

The problem is, classic fist is huge agile tub of muscle. He's pretty quick and avoiding an if isn't completely out of the question. He is also a h2h monster.

Add into the fact that classic IF was only limited to one IF till he gets drained up.

fight split IMO. could go either way.

Without using the Iron Fist, he could still hit fairly hard though. Hit robots without breaking his knuckles, stagger shell head, that sort of thing.

Fisk is good and durable, but I think Danny should at least be able to stagger him with normal blows into an Iron Fist setup (And if he isn't, he usually goes right for both ears. Even classic Fisk can't shrug that off.)