The worthy vs the JLA

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keiththegreat
Thing (Angir)
Hulk (Nul)
Juggernaut (Kuurth)
Titania (Skirn)_
Attuma (Nerkodd)
Grey Gargoyle (Mokk)
Sin (Skadi)
Absorbing Man (Greithoth)

vs

Superman
Hal Jordan_
Wonder Woman
The flash
Batman
Aquaman
Captain marvel
Martian manhunter

No BFR

PillarofOsiris
JLA win.

carver9
The worthy STOMPS. Fight isn't even fair.

iceman24567
Its not a stomp but the Worthy is simply more powerful overall all supposedly Thor level threats erm

Tony Stark
The worthy and yes it is a stomp.

Cogito
Originally posted by iceman24567
Its not a stomp but the Worthy is simply more powerful overall all supposedly Thor level threats erm

2 things

1. Everyone on the JLA except Batman w/o prep and Aquaman are Thor level threats
2. Thor killed Angrir with absolutely zero effort. That certainly means he's no threat to Thor.

Overall I'd say the JLA are more powerful. If the lasso doesn't work, they have no way to deal with Kuurth. Likewise I don't think Kuurth can hurt the JLA sans PIS/CIS.

Hyperion Prime
The worthy should win, but you know how that goes.girlbum

Tony Stark
Originally posted by Cogito
2 things

1. Everyone on the JLA except Batman w/o prep and Aquaman are Thor level threats
2. Thor killed Angrir with absolutely zero effort. That certainly means he's no threat to Thor.

Overall I'd say the JLA are more powerful. If the lasso doesn't work, they have no way to deal with Kuurth. Likewise I don't think Kuurth can hurt the JLA sans PIS/CIS.


roll eyes (sarcastic)

Absolutely not true

Cogito
Originally posted by Tony Stark
roll eyes (sarcastic)

Absolutely not true

Feel free to point out which points are untrue.

Hyperion Prime
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Hyperion Prime
Originally posted by Tony Stark
roll eyes (sarcastic)

Absolutely not true

I am a huge marvel fan and have thousands of comics vs 100s for DC. On average most of the guys in JLA can hang with Thor except for batman. Most of the guys on the JLA are planet busters or can perfrom godly feats even the Flash.

Gecko4lif
Thor literally 1 shotted angrir.

Not ko. Killed.

He didnt even use his strongest attacks.

He threw his hammer THROUGH him

That should speak for its self.

JakeTheBank
He didn't even throw Mjolnir.

He just summoned it back to his hand.

All things considered, that's a pretty absurd feat for Thor. Though, tbh, I still don't like that he was more or less like "Whatevs, Benjy, see ya on the flip side. I liked you and all, but them's the breaks."

Lord Feron
What stops Grey Gargolye from turning T2 to stone?

Also why are people forgetting that Angir was destroying rulk and shooting blasts that was leveling a city. Being taken out by the flight of the hammer is not a bad way to go if you knew what that attack has done in the past.

Greithoth, a smart and even more powerful absorbing man = major threat.

Nul almost killed thor and crumbled uru in his hand.

Team 2 would have to have alot of things go their way for them to win this convincingly.

carver9
If people actually looked at the way Thor took out Thing, they would understand the context. No one on the JLA has Mjlonir so they would NOT get this luxury. Thing with this amp was high Herald and could possibly beat or give anyone on the team a fight.

Kuurth can beat anyone on the opposing team.

Nul would literally KILL anyone on the opposing team.

Gargoyle would beat almost anyone on the opposing team and his stone stare alone is deadly.

Absorbing man would mimic everyone power on the opposing team and could BEAT anyone on that roster.

Titania could give them a fight and hold her own.

Attuma was working a team that had Surfer on it...he could potentially beat or stalemate anyone here.

I don't need to continue because the worthys is TOO stacked. JLA gets massacred, and badly at that.

Worthys 10/10 while Sin sits in the back and play chest.

Cogito
Give the JLA a little credit, will ya kinda

carver9
Originally posted by Lord Feron
What stops Grey Gargolye from turning T2 to stone?

Also why are people forgetting that Angir was destroying rulk and shooting blasts that was leveling a city. Being taken out by the flight of the hammer is not a bad way to go if you knew what that attack has done in the past.

Greithoth, a smart and even more powerful absorbing man = major threat.

Nul almost killed thor and crumbled uru in his hand.

Team 2 would have to have alot of things go their way for them to win this convincingly.

Don't forget Nul ripped Adamantium like tissue paper. He is literally the strongest person on the battlefield...no doubts. He even tanked full fledged hammer strike from Thor, hammer strikes that was dipped in Thors lightning. Bounced up like it tickled.

I would put Thor full powered hammer strikes above anyone striking power on the JLA and again, it didn't cause any lasting harm. The JLA is screwed imo.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
If people actually looked at the way Thor took out Thing, they would understand the context. No one on the JLA has Mjlonir so they would NOT get this luxury. Thing with this amp was high Herald and could possibly beat or give anyone on the team a fight.

Kuurth can beat anyone on the opposing team.

Nul would literally KILL anyone on the opposing team.

Gargoyle would beat almost anyone on the opposing team and his stone stare alone is deadly.

Absorbing man would mimic everyone power on the opposing team and could BEAT anyone on that roster.

Titania could give them a fight and hold her own.

Attuma was working a team that had Surfer on it...he could potentially beat or stalemate anyone here.

I don't need to continue because the worthys is TOO stacked. JLA gets massacred, and badly at that.

Worthys 10/10 while Sin sits in the back and play chest.
Two words: speed steal.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Don't forget Nul ripped Adamantium like tissue paper. He is literally the strongest person on the battlefield...no doubts. He even tanked full fledged hammer strike from Thor, hammer strikes that was dipped in Thors lightning. Bounced up like it tickled.

I would put Thor full powered hammer strikes above anyone striking power on the JLA and again, it didn't cause any lasting harm. The JLA is screwed imo.
So, you're lying again I see.

carver9
Originally posted by Cogito
Give the JLA a little credit, will ya kinda

It could potentially be a good fight if the JLA used team tactics but they have two members on the JLA that does not belong.

Cogito
Originally posted by abhilegend
Two words: speed steal.

thumb up

People here are acting like all the JLA can do is punch and/or die.

Speed steal can stop anyone dead in their tracks. WW's lasso can stop at least one of them. That's not even getting into the raw power on the JLA.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
So, you're lying again I see.

What did I lie about so that I can go get some scans?

Cogito
Originally posted by carver9
It could potentially be a good fight if the JLA used team tactics but they have two members on the JLA that does not belong.

Two huh? roll eyes (sarcastic)

carver9
Originally posted by Cogito
thumb up

People here are acting like all the JLA can do is punch and/or die.

Speed steal can stop anyone dead in their tracks. WW's lasso can stop at least one of them. That's not even getting into the raw power on the JLA.

So what will the worthys be doing while Wonder Woman is rapping them up in her rope? The Worthys have versatility of their own.

carver9
Originally posted by Cogito
Two huh? roll eyes (sarcastic)

Batman and Aquaman doesn't belong imo.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
What did I lie about so that I can go get some scans?
Tickling.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Tickling.

Lol...ok, it didn't tickle him, he had some scratches but he tanked those hits. As soon as he hit the ground, he bounced up like that sh** didn't happen. In a fight like this, the JLA best choice is to bfr both Nul and Kuurth and I can't see that happening since it fatigued Thor to the point of needing aid from Odin to heal his body.

Thor was glowing like a super Saiyan to achieve bfring Nul. Kuurth can't be bfred at all. Absorbing man, the guy opened portals with the wave of his hammer. Can't see the JLA winning.

Cogito
Originally posted by carver9
Absorbing man, the guy opened portals with the wave of his hammer. Can't see the JLA winning.

Holy shit he opened portals! Everyone run for your lives!

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...ok, it didn't tickle him, he had some scratches but he tanked those hits. As soon as he hit the ground, he bounced up like that sh** didn't happen. In a fight like this, the JLA best choice is to bfr both Nul and Kuurth and I can't see that happening since it fatigued Thor to the point of needing aid from Odin to heal his body.

Thor was glowing like a super Saiyan to achieve bfring Nul. Kuurth can't be bfred at all. Absorbing man, the guy opened portals with the wave of his hammer. Can't see the JLA winning.
Again lying.

carver9
Originally posted by Cogito
Holy shit he opened portals! Everyone run for your lives!

Lol...I was saying that because he could bring anyone that gets bfred back to the field or it could prevent him from getting bfred since that would be the only way to beat him since he is like Amazo and would have the JLA powers and probably the Worthy powers as well, stacked on top of his own powers.

evil face

Cogito
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I was saying that because he could bring anyone that gets bfred back to the field or it could prevent him from getting bfred since that would be the only way to beat him since he is like Amazo and would have the JLA powers and probably the Worthy powers as well, stacked on top of his own powers.

evil face

Nobody's getting BFR'd as per the OP.

They're staying right where they are...as statues.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Again lying.

Nul turned around looking at Thing body drop. Thor attacks.

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2695/thorvshulkandthing4.jpg

Thor wailing on him...hitting Nul so hard that his body is covered in lightning...hitting him so hard that he is screaming out DIE. Not a sound of pain comes out Nul mouth.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4769/thorvshulkandthing5b.jpg

Hell, Thor pounds on him to the point that he fatigue himself. Look at Nul, the guy lands on the ground on both feet after all of this.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8383/thorvshulkandthing6.jpg

Thor is a High Herald and was hitting Nul with full fledged hammer strikes. Pretty obvious it takes much more than Herald level power to stop Nul or even give him pause.

That's why Thor turned into a super Saiyan and bfred him.

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/6373/thorvshulkandthing7.jpg

Thor used so much power to accomplish this that he passed out which I have never seen happen to Thor. It's pretty obvious Nul was a great threat...especially looking at what he did after his battle against Thor.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9397726/10-12-2011_15.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9397728/10-12-2011_16.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9397730/10-12-2011_20.jpg.html

Not safe to fight this character at all. He might rip Wonder Woman lasso to pieces looking at his showings.

carver9
Originally posted by Cogito
Nobody's getting BFR'd as per the OP.

They're staying right where they are...as statues.

If Flash use the speed steal (something he rarely use) then I agree, stomp for DC.

Cogito
Originally posted by carver9
Not safe to fight this character at all. He might rip Wonder Woman lasso to pieces looking at his showings.

What showings? The only strength feat he has going is tearing up a secondary adamantium net. Not at all comparable to the lasso

Blight
What constitutes as Barely? How often does he need to use it?

carver9
Originally posted by Cogito
What showings? The only strength feat he has going is tearing up a secondary adamantium net. Not at all comparable to the lasso

Where was it stated as being secondary adamantium? He also crushed Uru.

carver9
Originally posted by Blight
What constitutes as Barely? How often does he need to use it?

Depends on when he used it in a team battle. Does anyone have scans of him using it in a High pace battle like this?

Cogito
Originally posted by carver9
Where was it stated as being secondary adamantium. He also crushed Uru.

Primary adamantium has never been broken, we just went through this a couple days ago with those missile heads. Forgot what thread that was.

carver9
Originally posted by Cogito
Primary adamantium has never been broken, we just went through this a couple days ago with those missile heads. Forgot what thread that was.

You don't call something secondary unless its stated on panel as such. Don't know where you got this idea from.

zopzop
JLA.

leonidas
Originally posted by keiththegreat
Thing (Angir)
Hulk (Nul)
Juggernaut (Kuurth)
Titania (Skirn)_
Attuma (Nerkodd)
Grey Gargoyle (Mokk)
Sin (Skadi)
Absorbing Man (Greithoth)

vs

Superman
Hal Jordan_
Wonder Woman
The flash
Batman
Aquaman
Captain marvel
Martian manhunter

No BFR

worthy for the majority--barring speed steal which is pretty unlikely on the whole. mm's tp would be interesting to see. carver's right in one thing--bats and arthur are pretty much useless in this. am's tp could have an impact i suppose--mm's would play a much bigger role however. too much of a power advantage for the worthy overall.

Prep-Man
JLA.

DarkSaint85
Good fight. Edge to the worthy. I think the word stomp is used too liberally in these threads, but whatevs

PillarofOsiris
Originally posted by Cogito
Holy shit he opened portals! Everyone run for your lives!

Lol epic post

AsbestosFlaygon
Originally posted by Cogito
2 things

1. Everyone on the JLA except Batman w/o prep and Aquaman are Thor level threats
2. Thor killed Angrir with absolutely zero effort. That certainly means he's no threat to Thor.

Overall I'd say the JLA are more powerful. If the lasso doesn't work, they have no way to deal with Kuurth. Likewise I don't think Kuurth can hurt the JLA sans PIS/CIS.
Agree on both.

However, I think Hal Jordan can BFR Kuurth with his constructs.

BTW, I think The Worthy wins.

Newjak
One word:

Kuurth

And barring the lasso working on him I don't see anyone on the JLA taking him out no expression

Don Corleone
JLA , more experience.

lft4ded
I'll go with the Worthy. I'm not sure how powerful unstoppable, un-tp-able Kuurth really was but I'm not sure Flash could stop him. Likewise I'm not sure Wonderwoman's lasso could either.

Colossus made it to 600 MPH before lesser-Kuurth was bfr'ed. But barring that who knows what kind of speed he could've achieved. Not JLA-fast maybe but still moving.

If Nul can break something, then others of the Worthy, especially those with edged mystical Uruguay hammers may be able to match with similar feats.

Rage.Of.Olympus
The Worthy would beat their ass on average. Too much power.

Even Sin is a High Herald by Bendis' f*cked up standards from what I remember.

Sr J-Bieb
Batman jumps in the crowd of them and starts spinning around kicking everyone in the face.

They all die.

If Batman wasn't in this thread, the Worthy would win however.

KingD19
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Agree on both.

However, I think Hal Jordan can BFR Kuurth with his constructs.

BTW, I think The Worthy wins.

How do you think Lantern could bfr him?

iceman24567
Originally posted by Tony Stark
The worthy and yes it is a stomp. Not even to the most delusional erm

carver9
The Worthys stomp.

iceman24567
Originally posted by carver9
The Worthys stomp.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Not even to the most delusional erm

Zack Fair
Originally posted by carver9
Nul turned around looking at Thing body drop. Thor attacks.

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2695/thorvshulkandthing4.jpg

Thor wailing on him...hitting Nul so hard that his body is covered in lightning...hitting him so hard that he is screaming out DIE. Not a sound of pain comes out Nul mouth.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4769/thorvshulkandthing5b.jpg

Hell, Thor pounds on him to the point that he fatigue himself. Look at Nul, the guy lands on the ground on both feet after all of this.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8383/thorvshulkandthing6.jpg

Thor is a High Herald and was hitting Nul with full fledged hammer strikes. Pretty obvious it takes much more than Herald level power to stop Nul or even give him pause.

That's why Thor turned into a super Saiyan and bfred him.

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/6373/thorvshulkandthing7.jpg

Thor used so much power to accomplish this that he passed out which I have never seen happen to Thor. It's pretty obvious Nul was a great threat...especially looking at what he did after his battle against Thor.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9397726/10-12-2011_15.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9397728/10-12-2011_16.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9397730/10-12-2011_20.jpg.html

Not safe to fight this character at all. He might rip Wonder Woman lasso to pieces looking at his showings.

I agree with everything you said but...don't go overboard with the lasso.

DarkSaint85
Nul got taken out by a shapeshifter.

If only the JLA had some kinda shapeshifter on their team...

gogogadgetgo
Originally posted by Cogito
2 things

1. Everyone on the JLA except Batman w/o prep and Aquaman are Thor level threats
2. Thor killed Angrir with absolutely zero effort. That certainly means he's no threat to Thor.

Overall I'd say the JLA are more powerful. If the lasso doesn't work, they have no way to deal with Kuurth. Likewise I don't think Kuurth can hurt the JLA sans PIS/CIS.

no, just no.

Cogito
Diana lassos Kuurth and makes him walk backwards

iceman24567
Originally posted by carver9
Nul turned around looking at Thing body drop. Thor attacks.

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2695/thorvshulkandthing4.jpg

Thor wailing on him...hitting Nul so hard that his body is covered in lightning...hitting him so hard that he is screaming out DIE. Not a sound of pain comes out Nul mouth.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4769/thorvshulkandthing5b.jpg

Hell, Thor pounds on him to the point that he fatigue himself. Look at Nul, the guy lands on the ground on both feet after all of this.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8383/thorvshulkandthing6.jpg

Thor is a High Herald and was hitting Nul with full fledged hammer strikes. Pretty obvious it takes much more than Herald level power to stop Nul or even give him pause.

That's why Thor turned into a super Saiyan and bfred him.

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/6373/thorvshulkandthing7.jpg

Thor used so much power to accomplish this that he passed out which I have never seen happen to Thor. It's pretty obvious Nul was a great threat...especially looking at what he did after his battle against Thor.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9397726/10-12-2011_15.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9397728/10-12-2011_16.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9397730/10-12-2011_20.jpg.html

Not safe to fight this character at all. He might rip Wonder Woman lasso to pieces looking at his showings. Nice downplaying of what really happened thumb up

Batman-Prime
Originally posted by carter9
Nul turned around looking at Thing body drop. Thor attacks.

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2695/thorvshulkandthing4.jpg



Thor drops Thing with little effort after they both attacked him 2 vs 1 and he got already some hits. Still he gave Nul a fair warning as he attacked and Nul was facing him thumb up "Pain in the Ass"
Originally posted by carter9

Thor wailing on him...hitting Nul so hard that his body is covered in lightning...hitting him so hard that he is screaming out DIE. Not a sound of pain comes out Nul mouth.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4769/thorvshulkandthing5b.jpg



In the duel following Angrir Death, Thor has the upper hand, beats on Nul and Yells/talks to him while beating the crap out of him, he says "Now you die", a word per hit. Not a sound from Nuls moputh as he was busy spitting blood and keeping his head on his shoulders. thumb up

Originally posted by carter9

Hell, Thor pounds on him to the point that he fatigue himself. Look at Nul, the guy lands on the ground on both feet after all of this.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8383/thorvshulkandthing6.jpg


We don't see the landing but since in the scan before we saw Nul losing his Hammer, he pretty sure landed on his back and had to stand up and pick it up again. Thor, who had to fight Angrir and Nul before TOGETHER and got already some hits from Nul but was still capable to kill one of his TWO adversaries is still capable to stand up and keep on fighting. Nul bleeds from his mouth and has a deep cut on his forehead, Thor however took Nuls hammer to the head and doesn't even has a single cut thumb up
Originally posted by carter9

Thor is a High Herald and was hitting Nul with full fledged hammer strikes. Pretty obvious it takes much more than Herald level power to stop Nul or even give him pause.

That's why Thor turned into a super Saiyan and bfred him.

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/6373/thorvshulkandthing7.jpg



Nul was bleeding and he had to pause, so Thor gave him a pause and a beating and that after dropping Angrir casually. Thor charges Mjolnir and both Nul and Thor attack eath other. Thor bfrs Nul and koe him for a brief moment, Thor is still standing. And the winner "Two Worthy (Angrir and Nul) vs One Herald (Thor)" is THOR thumb up
Originally posted by carter9

Thor used so much power to accomplish this that he passed out which I have never seen happen to Thor. It's pretty obvious Nul was a great threat...especially looking at what he did after his battle against Thor.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9397726/10-12-2011_15.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9397728/10-12-2011_16.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9397730/10-12-2011_20.jpg.html

Not safe to fight this character at all. He might rip Wonder Woman lasso to pieces looking at his showings.

Thor after defeating two powerful enemies, amped Thing (Angrir) and amped WWH (Nul) has still some juice to say some lines before taking a nap to heal, like he learned it from his daddy. wink

Actually, your way is funny Carter^^.

Thor >= Nul (amped WWH) + Angrir (amped Thing)
Nul or amped WWH > WWH

JLA wins by feats, worthy make it a Battle by status.

8swords
Originally posted by carver9
The worthy STOMPS. Fight isn't even fair.

I agree, but its not a total stomp laughing laughing

Reacting2
Originally posted by Cogito

Speed steal can stop anyone dead in their tracks. team worthy 10/10 nothing can stop FP Kuurth, nothing

Reacting2
Originally posted by leonidas
mm's tp would be interesting to see. . MM mental game wont work on Kuurth

keiththegreat
Originally posted by Reacting2
team worthy 10/10 nothing can stop FP Kuurth, nothing

So Kuurth beats Odin?

DarkSaint85
How about the lasso?

carver9
Nul and Kuurth and Absorbing man wreck shop. The rest can just sit back and chill.

PillarofOsiris
I love it when people say someone can't be stopped, can't be hurt, is omnipotent, omniscient, etc. It doesn't work that way in comics.

I remember when the Juggernaut couldn't be stopped, and then Thor made him go backwards.

Reacting2
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I love it when people say someone can't be stopped, can't be hurt, is omnipotent, omniscient, etc. It doesn't work that way in comics.

I remember when the Juggernaut couldn't be stopped, and then Thor made him go backwards. Nothing can stop FP Kuurth, and certainly not the JLA

worthy 10/10

Nul and Kuuth could solo team JLA

Slaanesh
this doesn't really seems fair cuz Batman is way out of his league here..team 1 win this 10/10..

PillarofOsiris
No one on Team one can even hit the Flash. So yeah, the fight really isn't fair.

Slaanesh
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
No one on Team one can even hit the Flash. So yeah, the fight really isn't fair.

Grey Gargoyle can probably turn him into stone..

PillarofOsiris
Originally posted by Slaanesh
Grey Gargoyle can probably turn him into stone..

I have no doubt he COULD, provided he had the chance.

carver9
Flash isn't one shotting Gargoyle and GG powers is always active.

DarkSaint85
Even against his team mates?

Reacting2
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Even against his team mates? No

Sixth_Winged
The worthy in such a stomp. Absorbing man is such a beast with his worthy upgrades.

zeel
goes either way edge to the worthy however the JLA have the experience of working together.

KingD19
All the Worthy that fought together were good at it as well. They were the Serpent's General's inhabiting host bodies, so they'd fought together as well, and they have centuries of experience against the League's years.

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