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Fight in the Himalayas

Who wins?

Geo force can manipulate and use the earth to kill ice man then he'll put his carcass to got use as an ice tray.

Iceman can freeze Geo Force's blood.

Originally posted by Hulkbuster1
Geo force can manipulate and use the earth to kill ice man then he'll put his carcass to got use as an ice tray.

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Originally posted by dmills
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Ge0 Force for the destruction. Bye Bye Iceman.

How?

Geo.

So everybody thinks Geo Force can kill the guy made of pure ice who can freeze the blood in his veins or flash freeze him solid or any other number of things Iceman can do.

Originally posted by KingD19
So everybody thinks Geo Force can kill the guy made of pure ice who can freeze the blood in his veins or flash freeze him solid or any other number of things Iceman can do.

Not everyone. Just the ones that only remember that Iceman can throw snowballs.

Originally posted by KingD19
How? Originally posted by KingD19
So everybody thinks Geo Force can kill the guy made of pure ice who can freeze the blood in his veins or flash freeze him solid or any other number of things Iceman can do.
Originally posted by Galan007
After realizing his full potential, Geo becomes, well, a true global force:

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_geo_full1.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_geo_full2.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_geo_full3.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_geo_full4.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_geo_full5.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_geo_full6.jpg

A single punch from Geo shakes the entire planet, and shifts it off its axis (causing mass destruction in the process.) Uber.

Good Luck with that Iceman, you'll need it.

Iceman

Originally posted by zopzop
Good Luck with that Iceman, you'll need it.


That won't stop Iceman from freezing Geo Force's internal organs, or freezing his blood, or absorbing all the moisture from his body and leaving him a dried out husk. All this stuff can be done nearly instantaneously as well.

And so what his punch slightly shifted Earth off it's axis, he hits Iceman and he shatters, then reforms. As hard as it is to beat DC Elementals, Iceman is essentially the same thing.

Originally posted by KingD19
That won't stop Iceman from freezing Geo Force's internal organs, or freezing his blood, or absorbing all the moisture from his body and leaving him a dried out husk. All this stuff can be done nearly instantaneously as well.

And so what his punch slightly shifted Earth off it's axis, he hits Iceman and he shatters, then reforms. As hard as it is to beat DC Elementals, Iceman is essentially the same thing.

Does GF even have internal organs or blood in Earth form? Then you have to consider GF's gravity manipulation powers and shields and his thermal/magma blasts and abilities.
Originally posted by Galan007
Geo dominates Black Lightning (part I):

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_geo_bl1.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_geo_bl2.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_geo_bl3.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Geo dominates Black Lightning (part II):

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_geo_bl7.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_geo_bl8.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_geo_bl9.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_geo_bl10.jpg http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/th_geo_bl11.jpg


Note that Geo was completely unaffected by the most powerful blast BL had EVER utilized... "Like I said... WEAK." lol
He crushes Iceman.

Getting hit with lightning is not the same as having blood frozen in your veins or having your moisture drained. Iceman's a literal ice elemental and even if GF used his magma blasts, he could just reform or turn into mist, enter his body and reform from inside. He killed Fuego that way.

Originally posted by KingD19
Getting hit with lightning is not the same as having blood frozen in your veins or having your moisture drained. Iceman's a literal ice elemental and even if GF used his magma blasts, he could just reform or turn into mist, enter his body and reform from inside. He killed Fuego that way.

wtf is Iceman gonna do if Ge0 Force bubbles him up inside a gravity bubble? How would he escape? He'd be fugged. Instant win for Ge0 Force.

Or worse, bubble him in a gravity shield, then bury him inside the Earth's molten core. Bye Bye Iceman. RIP.rip

Iceman could freeze the air molecules so much that it would resemble a speed steal. Geo would scarcely be able to move.

Originally posted by Stoic
Iceman could freeze the air molecules so much that it would resemble a speed steal. Geo would scarcely be able to move.

Uhm he, Ge0 Force, has thermal abilities too. Not to mention his gravity shields. How do you know Iceman's energy/cold abilities can penetrate GF's grav shields?

Iceman's abilities are thermal too. He doesn't make ice, he just sucks all the heat out of an area and ice forms as a result.

Also, a gravity force field won't stop Iceman from directly affecting GF. He doesn't need to shoot him or touch him, he just thinks about it.

Oh, and Iceman can be in multiple places at once. And transfer his consciousness to a new body he can make instantly.

And Fuego was a fire elemental. He burned hot enough to melt through several feet of solid rock in a few seconds, sucked Iceman's energy from him, and a few seconds later, Iceman froze him solid by reforming inside his body, which was made of fire.

Geo is hella powerful, but I don't think this is a particularly good match-up for him.

That's what I've been trying to say. And the fight takes place in the Himalayas as well. Bobby could become a hundreds of foot tall ice golem that snap freezes everything he touches.

Originally posted by KingD19
That's what I've been trying to say. And the fight takes place in the Himalayas as well. Bobby could become a hundreds of foot tall ice golem that snap freezes everything he touches.

You realize that even at the Himalayas, there is MORE earth and rock there than ice/water right?

Again, what's stopping GF from bubbling Iceman and burying him inside the Earth's molten core? Or burying him under hundreds of thousands of tons of earth?

Originally posted by zopzop
You realize that even at the Himalayas, there is MORE earth and rock there than ice/water right?

Again, what's stopping GF from bubbling Iceman and burying him inside the Earth's molten core? Or burying him under hundreds of thousands of tons of earth?

The fact that Iceman can make copies of himself and transfer his consciousness between them, or even simply exist as a mist form. He's shifted between bodies so fast that Bastion was in the middle of attacking him and didn't realize he'd created a copy.

And it's not about the ice, it's about the temperature and moisture in the air. It's really cold in the Himalayas, and that helps Iceman out a lot.

Tell me this. What's to stop Iceman from snap freezing Geo Forces brain and blood?

To beat Iceman, Geo would have to destroy his consciousness, and I just think that's out of his range, tbh.

Originally posted by KingD19
The fact that Iceman can make copies of himself and transfer his consciousness between them, or even simply exist as a mist form. He's shifted between bodies so fast that Bastion was in the middle of attacking him and didn't realize he'd created a copy.

And it's not about the ice, it's about the temperature and moisture in the air. It's really cold in the Himalayas, and that helps Iceman out a lot.

Tell me this. What's to stop Iceman from snap freezing Geo Forces brain and blood?

Tell me this, does GF even have blood and organs in Earth form? Why wouldn't GF's gravity shields stop IM's power? What's to stop GF from using his thermal powers to offset IM's heat sapping abilities? How would IM get out of being buried under millions of tons of earth? Or encapsulated within a gravity bubble?

Originally posted by zopzop
Tell me this, does GF even have blood and organs in Earth form? Why wouldn't GF's gravity shields stop IM's power? What's to stop GF from using his thermal powers to offset IM's heat sapping abilities? How would IM get out of being buried under millions of tons of earth? Or encapsulated within a gravity bubble?


You're not listening. You keep bringing up the same points over and over.

1. I don't know if GF has blood or organs in earth form, but does he use it enough to constitute to this fight? And even if he does, Iceman can still freeze him solid.

2. His gravity shields wouldn't stop his power because he directly affects him, meaning he bypasses the shields.

3. Don't GF's "thermal powers" encompass shooting lava blasts, and that's it, or has he done more? Either way, any "heat" projection can instantly have all heat sapped from it. The lava for example would turn into stone, then frozen stone.

4. When he's fully ice, he's no longer human. He's a psionic consciousness inhabiting a shell made completely of ice. If that ice gets buried, he can simply make another body and transfer his consciousness, like transferring save files from a computer to a jump drive.

5. If he tries to put him in a gravity bubble, he can once again, form another body, and transfer his consciousness.

Originally posted by KingD19
You're not listening. You keep bringing up the same points over and over.

1. I don't know if GF has blood or organs in earth form, but does he use it enough to constitute to this fight? And even if he does, Iceman can still freeze him solid.

2. His gravity shields wouldn't stop his power because he directly affects him, meaning he bypasses the shields.

3. Don't GF's "thermal powers" encompass shooting lava blasts, and that's it, or has he done more? Either way, any "heat" projection can instantly have all heat sapped from it. The lava for example would turn into stone, then frozen stone.

4. When he's fully ice, he's no longer human. He's a psionic consciousness inhabiting a shell made completely of ice. If that ice gets buried, he can simply make another body and transfer his consciousness, like transferring save files from a computer to a jump drive.

5. If he tries to put him in a gravity bubble, he can once again, form another body, and transfer his consciousness.

1) Freeze him solid? And? Earth/rock is already in a solid state. Freezing it isn't going to affect Ge0 Force at all.

2) You know this how? So you telling me IM's abilities would affect Graviton or Magneto or IW through their shields? Sweet, proof?

3) Lava turned to stone? Then frozen stone?! OMG! Wait, wtf is frozen stone? Stone by definition is already a SOLID. Freezing it isn't going to do anything more to it.

4)/5) Proof? Proof he can escape being completely encapsulated inside a bubble of gravity/force?

Iceman freezing stuff to absolute zero is what I think he means by solid.

That would affect GF.

How does his gravity forcefield contain a psionic consciousness?

Originally posted by Mindset
Iceman freezing stuff to absolute zero is what I think he means by solid.

That would affect GF.

How does his gravity forcefield contain a psionic consciousness?

Ok, so that would affect him through gravity shields? Does IM have any on panel showings that have him affecting people through shields of any kind? TK, Magnetic, Gravity, etc...?

Originally posted by zopzop
Ok, so that would affect him through gravity shields? Does IM have any on panel showings that have him affecting people through shields of any kind? TK, Magnetic, Gravity, etc...? Does GF have any feats of keeping a psionic energy being out with his shields?

I don't have to prove anything, just look in his respect thread. Everything I've said has already been proven for me.

1. Frozen solid means freezing something, whether it be a liquid, solid, or gas, completely. Freezing Geo Force means he wouldn't be able to move.

2. He's never directly attacked people like that through their shields, as in comics he mainly relies on his ice blasts and creativity. But he's done similar things to other people. But in a forum fight, he could and would do so.

3. You obviously don't get it. When lava cools it becomes stone correct? Well he's yanking all the heat directly out of it, so it would turn into stone and freeze as a result.

4/5. I'll give you this one. A couple scans showing him inhabiting multiple bodies at the same time.

Making a huge ice form and informing Deadpool and Fantomex that they'd have to find his consciousness to beat him - http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g480/Icefanatic/AoA%20Iceman/Uncanny%20X-Force%2016/uxf-14.jpg

The harnessed fury of an ice elemental making 4 giant bodies in an instant. He even goes so far as to flash freeze and shatter Deadpool. - http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g480/Icefanatic/AoA%20Iceman/Uncanny%20X-Force%2016/uxf-17.jpg

Creating dozens of Ice "Men" - http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g480/Icefanatic/AoA%20Iceman/Uncanny%20X-Force%2016/uxf-19.jpg

Again creating a number of copies - http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w192/Profezzor_X/ICEMAN%20GREATEST%20FEATS/WolverineandtheX-Men02Megan-TheGrouppg16.jpg

If one body is trapped in a bubble or whatever, he makes a new one and transfers his consciousness to that.

Originally posted by Mindset
Does GF have any feats of keeping a psionic energy being out with his shields?

Has this "psionic energy being" EVER passed through ANY shield type (TK, Magnetic, Gravity, Mystic, etc...) EVER?

As a psionic consciousness, there's nothing there for the force field to keep out. He's brainwaves, thought patterns. A mind in an intangible energy form.

Originally posted by KingD19
I don't have to prove anything, just look in his respect thread. Everything I've said has already been proven for me.

1. Frozen solid means freezing something, whether it be a liquid, solid, or gas, completely. Freezing Geo Force means he wouldn't be able to move.

2. He's never directly attacked people like that through their shields, as in comics he mainly relies on his ice blasts and creativity. But he's done similar things to other people. But in a forum fight, he could and would do so.

3. You obviously don't get it. When lava cools it becomes stone correct? Well he's yanking all the heat directly out of it, so it would turn into stone and freeze as a result.

4/5. I'll give you this one. A couple scans showing him inhabiting multiple bodies at the same time.

Making a huge ice form and informing Deadpool and Fantomex that they'd have to find his consciousness to beat him - http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g480/Icefanatic/AoA%20Iceman/Uncanny%20X-Force%2016/uxf-14.jpg

The harnessed fury of an ice elemental making 4 giant bodies in an instant. He even goes so far as to flash freeze and shatter Deadpool. - http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g480/Icefanatic/AoA%20Iceman/Uncanny%20X-Force%2016/uxf-17.jpg

Creating dozens of Ice "Men" - http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g480/Icefanatic/AoA%20Iceman/Uncanny%20X-Force%2016/uxf-19.jpg

Again creating a number of copies - http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w192/Profezzor_X/ICEMAN%20GREATEST%20FEATS/WolverineandtheX-Men02Megan-TheGrouppg16.jpg

If one body is trapped in a bubble or whatever, he makes a new one and transfers his consciousness to that.

1) Dude stone is already in a SOLID state. Freezing it any more doesn't make any difference to it.

2) So you have zero proof his abilities would work through shields of any kind?

3) Yes, freeze lava into stone. That will SURELY show GEOforce who's boss!

4)/5) You have no proof his powers work THROUGH shields. Once bubbled what can he possibly do? Nothing. Even if he doesn't bubble, the best IM can hope for would be an endless stalemate.

Originally posted by KingD19
As a psionic consciousness, there's nothing there for the force field to keep out. He's brainwaves, thought patterns. A mind in an intangible energy form.

Then surely there must be an example of this on panel somewhere? It doesn't even have to be vs Gravity shields. It can be vs any type of shield/bubble (TK, Magic, Magnetic, Force, etc...) and I'll accept it.

Originally posted by zopzop
Has this "psionic energy being" EVER passed through ANY shield type (TK, Magnetic, Gravity, Mystic, etc...) EVER? So there's no proof that a gravity ff would keep him out.

Originally posted by Mindset
So there's no proof that a gravity ff would keep him out.

yawn

Concession accepted.

Hey, you're the one who keeps asking for a feat that isn't necessary since this is logic. How bout you show a scan of Geo Force trapping somebodies thought processes.

Originally posted by Mindset
Concession accepted.
B.M.
Originally posted by KingD19
Hey, you're the one who keeps asking for a feat that isn't necessary since this is logic. How bout you show a scan of Geo Force trapping somebodies thought processes.
It doesn't work that way. You are the one claiming he's a being of pure psionic energy and can't be encapsulated and BFRed. Show me a scan of him bypassing shields of ANY kind and I'll agree you have a point. Until then, you have nothing.

Originally posted by zopzop
B.M.

It doesn't work that way. You are the one claiming he's a being of pure psionic energy and can't be encapsulated and BFRed. Show me a scan of him bypassing shields of ANY kind and I'll agree you have a point. Until then, you have nothing.

Shields would require a physical form, though, which Iceman doesn't have when he's floating around.

FYI, some of those scans are AoA Ice Man

I know. If anything, 616 is more powerful than AoA. AoA is just ruthless.