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1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk - Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightining/attacks

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk- Hand to Hand to the death

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk - Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course.

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk


NO BFR IN ANY OF THESE MATCHES. WHO WINS?

Originally posted by Damborgson
1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk - Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightining/attacks

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk- Hand to Hand to the death

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk - Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course.

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk


NO BFR IN ANY OF THESE MATCHES. WHO WINS?

1. Thor
2. Hulk
3. Thor with ease
4. Thor
5. Thor in a stomp
6. Holy f-ing shit, stomp
7. Not even worth saying "stomp"

Going by comics, Hulk>>Thor. No matter what fans want to says the truth have been shown too many times.

Originally posted by Damborgson
1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk - Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightining/attacks

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk- Hand to Hand to the death

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk - Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course.

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk


NO BFR IN ANY OF THESE MATCHES. WHO WINS? 1. Thor
2. Hulk
3. Thor
4. Thor
5. Thor
6. Thor
7. Thor
8. Angry Carver

Looking at fights, Hulk will always be above Thor, especially current Hulk.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%203/16.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/2.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/3.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%2012/9.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%2012/10.jpg

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/aa4thegroup007.jpg/

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8383/thorvshulkandthing6.jpg

Can't find the scan where Hulk beats Thor to sleep with his own hammer.

Hulk>>>>>>>>Thor/Heralds.

^ respond to the list no? Then we can take a debate from there if you want to prove who is > who.

Originally posted by Damborgson
^ respond to the list no? Then we can take a debate from there if you want to prove who is > who.

I already did. This is like saying "in a straight up fight, Superman can beat Doomsday" when overall, he can't. Thor can not beat Hulk, its just that simple. Taking CIS off doesn't change this. You have made this thread at least 8 times anyways and on panel proof goes against anything you or anyone else that comes in here and vote for Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
I already did. This is like saying "in a straight up fight, Superman can beat Doomsday" when overall, he can't. Thor can not beat Hulk, its just that simple. Taking CIS off doesn't change this. You have made this thread at least 8 times anyways and on panel proof goes against anything you or anyone else that comes in here and vote for Thor.


I've made Hulk vs Thor threads. Not like 8 times though lol. And CIS is on in this one. The other one was too unfair to the Hulk side. http://lh4.ggpht.com/-WqUhzv1JbLE/TTSNeSZuNCI/AAAAAAAAAOo/Yd_UG0T6IbA/MINI-troll-face.png

You honestly don't think that Thor can beat the Hulk in any match in the op at all? Or you just messing with me?

My vote comes from the current depiction of the characters.


1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk...Grey Hulk

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk - Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightining/attacks... Savage Hulk is the winner.

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk- Hand to Hand to the death...Professor Hulk wins

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk - Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course...WWH wins.

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk...Nul MURDERS HIM.

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk...Good fight but WBH wins

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk... Good fight and this is a split.

Originally posted by carver9
Looking at fights, Hulk will always be above Thor, especially current Hulk.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%203/16.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/2.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/3.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%2012/9.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%2012/10.jpg

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/aa4thegroup007.jpg/

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8383/thorvshulkandthing6.jpg

Can't find the scan where Hulk beats Thor to sleep with his own hammer.

Hulk>>>>>>>>Thor/Heralds.

Not really

Here Hulk had extra juice and Thor defeated won

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Marvel%20Comics/Thor%20VS%20Hulk/th_FI_5_Oroboros_CPS_030.jpg

This was a stalemate

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Marvel%20Comics/Thor%20VS%20Hulk/th_Hulk300_19a.jpg

Another stalemate

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Marvel%20Comics/Thor%20VS%20Hulk/th_Hulk440_13a.jpg

Another win for Thor

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Marvel%20Comics/Thor%20VS%20Hulk/th_HulkANN2001_19a.jpg

This is an effective BFR

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Marvel%20Comics/Thor%20VS%20Hulk/th_HulkANN2001_19b.jpg

I don't see too much win in here for Hulk

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Marvel%20Comics/Thor%20VS%20Hulk/th_TheInfinityCrusade-04-MortalSins-34.jpg

This one was won by Thor

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Marvel%20Comics/Thor%20VS%20Hulk/th_Thor489-19.jpg

I would not gloat too much on this one. Thor is fighting with a handicap meaning NOT HIS STANDARD GEAR

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Marvel%20Comics/Thor%20VS%20Hulk/th_Thor_1987_385_18.jpg

Stalemate

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Marvel%20Comics/Thor%20VS%20Hulk/th_Defenders10-10-1.jpg

Thor won in here

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Marvel%20Comics/Thor%20VS%20Hulk/th_Journey_in_to_mystery112-12.jpg

Where do you get this idea of Hulk >>>>>heralds???

Your first scan, Thor bfred Nul and koed himself. Bfr is off in this battle.

Your second scan, that was a stalemate.

Your third scan, Hulk bfred the hell out of Thor and could have won if he wasn't trying to save Thor life.

Fourth scan, Thor won.

Fifth scan, same battle, Thor already carrying a koed Hulk to another dimension, he already won that battle and that wouldn't have happened if Hulk was awake.

Sixth scan, lol, Thor damaged Hulk jet pack. Lol at you considering that a win.

Seventh scan, Hulk was weakened. He was weakened to the point that if he amped his strength, he would revert back to Bruce Banner. Do you even know about the scans you post?

Eighth scan, lol, Thor got thrashed in that fight.

Ninth scan, stalemate.

Tenth scan, stalemate.

Hulk is greater than Heralds because of his showings against them.

Moral of story, you don't know what you are talking about.

Originally posted by carver9
Going by comics, Hulk>>Thor. No matter what fans want to says the truth have been shown too many times.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Thor%20VS%20Hulk/HulkANN2001_18b.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Thor%20VS%20Hulk/HulkANN2001_19a.jpg

Sweet jesus Carter... facepalm

Originally posted by -Pr-
Sweet jesus Carter... facepalm

Reported for Trolling. LOL j/k

Jeeze carter grow up

Lol.

Anyway:

1. Depends on whether or not Masterson is having a good day.
2. Edge to Hulk
3. Thor
4. Thor
5. Thor
6. Thor
7. Lmao

Spite much

Originally posted by Damborgson


1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk
MASTERSON WINS A SOLID MAJORITY

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk - Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightining/attacks
THOR WINS A SLIGHT MAJORITY

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk- Hand to Hand to the death
PROFESSOR HULK WINS

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk - Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course.
WWH WINS, Healing factor is the key for Hulk

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk
ODIN FORCE THOR, It didn't seem Nul was nigh indestructible

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk
THOR WINS (through exotic means)

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk
KING THOR WINS (through some exotic means)

Go Carter!

Originally posted by h1a8
3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk- Hand to Hand to the death
PROFESSOR HULK WINS

I recall these two fighting in Hel and Professor Hulk admitted, via thought-panel, that he was going to lose it and revert to Savage Banner at the end. If it's hand-to-hand to the death, Thor would most likely win at least because he'd outlast Hulk and kill him mid-Banner transformation.

Originally posted by Damborgson
1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk - Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightining/attacks

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk- Hand to Hand to the death

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk - Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course.

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk


NO BFR IN ANY OF THESE MATCHES. WHO WINS?

1. Split
2. Hulk
3. With limitation - Thor/Without limitation - Hulk
4. Hulk
5. Hulk
6. Thor
7. Thor

Originally posted by carver9
Looking at fights, Hulk will always be above Thor, especially current Hulk.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%203/16.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/2.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/3.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%2012/9.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%2012/10.jpg

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/aa4thegroup007.jpg/

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8383/thorvshulkandthing6.jpg

Can't find the scan where Hulk beats Thor to sleep with his own hammer.

Hulk>>>>>>>>Thor/Heralds. Did you see Thor and the Phoenix?

Originally posted by carver9
My vote comes from the current depiction of the characters.


1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk...Grey Hulk

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk - Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightining/attacks... Savage Hulk is the winner.

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk- Hand to Hand to the death...Professor Hulk wins

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk - Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course...WWH wins.

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk...Nul MURDERS HIM.

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk...Good fight but WBH wins

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk... Good fight and this is a split. Carver! I always back you up in here. But... Dude!

You must be a very loyal friend to your buddies in real life.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Carver! I always back you up in here. But... Dude!

You must be a very loyal friend to your buddies in real life.

Or, he's Carver, and doesn't know any better, and really believes it.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Did you see Thor and the Phoenix?

Are you talking about when Captain Marv-ell wrecked shop.?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Or, he's Carver, and doesn't know any better, and really believes it.

Silence those lips.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I recall these two fighting in Hel and Professor Hulk admitted, via thought-panel, that he was going to lose it and revert to Savage Banner at the end. If it's hand-to-hand to the death, Thor would most likely win at least because he'd outlast Hulk and kill him mid-Banner transformation.

They fought h2h? Professor Hulk is not only as strong as Thor but he has a healing factor and only gets stronger. There is no way Thor can beat Professor Hulk in just h2h combat. He would need his hammer at least or some weather control.

Originally posted by h1a8
They fought h2h? Professor Hulk is not only as strong as Thor but he has a healing factor and only gets stronger. There is no way Thor can beat Professor Hulk in just h2h combat. He would need his hammer at least or some weather control.

The fight he is talking about, Hulk was weakened...he couldn't even amp...

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%208/3.jpg

...He would have known this if he actually read the comic.

Originally posted by carver9
Silence those lips.

OK, lemme call your MOM to keep them busy. twisted

Originally posted by carver9
The fight he is talking about, Hulk was weakened...he couldn't even amp...

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%208/3.jpg

...He would have known this if he actually read the comic.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I recall these two fighting in Hel and Professor Hulk admitted, via thought-panel, that he was going to lose it and revert to Savage Banner at the end. If it's hand-to-hand to the death, Thor would most likely win at least because he'd outlast Hulk and kill him mid-Banner transformation.

And where exactly does that scan contradict anything I said, or prove he was weakened? Unless you're counting the whole he'd turn back to Banner as "weakened?" And wasn't it, ya know, Hulk's strength could increase, it was just he couldn't get too mad or he'd revert to Banner?

Originally posted by Delta1938
OK, lemme call your MOM to keep them busy. twisted





And where exactly does that scan contradict anything I said, or prove he was weakened? Unless you're counting the whole he'd turn back to Banner as "weakened?" And wasn't it, ya know, Hulk's strength could increase, it was just he couldn't get too mad or he'd revert to Banner?

Lol...


Then that means he isn't fighting a full powered Professor Hulk. If Hulk can't amp his strength, what does that tell you, he is weakened. Even without this ability, he still held his own...with amping on, he probably would have won.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...


Then that means he isn't fighting a full powered Professor Hulk. If Hulk can't amp his strength, what does that tell you, he is weakened. Even without this ability, he still held his own...with amping on, he probably would have won.

So where did it say in that scan that Hulk couldn't amp his strength at all as opposed there was a limit to how angry he could get without turning into Savage Banner?

Not to mention you didn't even bother to answer my question of where at all does your scan contradict anything I said. Which, considering I didn't see anything there, I will take as a concession.

Carver, the only guy I'd expect to "correct" me by copying exactly what I said and doing the bare minimum to officially elaborate on it.

Originally posted by h1a8
They fought h2h? Professor Hulk is not only as strong as Thor but he has a healing factor and only gets stronger. There is no way Thor can beat Professor Hulk in just h2h combat. He would need his hammer at least or some weather control.

Professor Hulk didn't amp if I'm not mistaken.

Originally posted by Damborgson
1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk-Split

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk - Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightining/attacks-Hulk

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk- Hand to Hand to the death-Spilt Or Hulk

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk - Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course-Hulk

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk-Thor

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk-Spilt

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk-This Thread Is Stupid.....

durthor

Originally posted by TheHulk


7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk-This Thread Is Stupid.....

http://fim.413chan.net/oatmeal/src/132195810076-alan_you_seem_upset.jpg

Originally posted by TheHulk


6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk-Spilt

Originally posted by carver9
Looking at fights, Hulk will always be above Thor, especially current Hulk.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%203/16.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/2.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/3.jpg



Thor was shown superior to Hulk in both those fights. The first fight Hulk admitted Thor with Mjolnir is his superior so he convinced/begged Thor to fight him without Mjolnir because that was the only was Hulk could be superior to Thor.

The second fight Thor was Bfr'ing Hulk all over the place, and even KO'ed him once. The only beating Hulk got in was a surprise one when Thor thought Hulk was still KO'd, and still Thor got right back up and was never KO'd himself.

God knows how your using those fights to show Hulk's always been greater than Thor.


Originally posted by carver9
Hulk>>>>>>>>Thor/Heralds.

Lol

1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk - Masterson beats the shit out of him. Maybe if it was earlier in his run where he was very inexperienced and had confidence issues, Fixit would win, but his raw strength rivaled beings like Gladiator and as it was outright stated he was more powerful than all the other heroes present against Thanos, including the heralds, Drax, Hulk etc. He had all that raw power, he just had no idea how to access and use it most of the time.

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk (Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightning/attacks) - If they just go punch for punch, Hulk eventually. I guess Thor could knock Hulk out with a powerful blow, but he doesn't wind up and charge with that type of power against peers unless it's like Fraction or something.

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk (Hand to Hand to the death) - Made pretty clear that Thor would have won, Professor Hulk got so angry that he almost reverted to Banner and Thor wasn't even going all out.

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk (Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course.) - Depends on what Thor does at the best of his abilities, if he fights his usual 'all-out' way, it'll be similar to Sentry, but if he goes for the huge lightning bolts, God Blast or whatever, he wins.

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk - The one that fought Bor and such? He takes it comfortably.

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk - Thor.

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk - Thor atomizes him.

Hulk ffs, he's green!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk - Masterson beats the shit out of him. Maybe if it was earlier in his run where he was very inexperienced and had confidence issues, Fixit would win, but his raw strength rivaled beings like Gladiator and as it was outright stated he was more powerful than all the other heroes present against Thanos, including the heralds, Drax, Hulk etc. He had all that raw power, he just had no idea how to access and use it most of the time.

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk (Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightning/attacks) - If they just go punch for punch, Hulk eventually. I guess Thor could knock Hulk out with a powerful blow, but he doesn't wind up and charge with that type of power against peers unless it's like Fraction or something.

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk (Hand to Hand to the death) - Made pretty clear that Thor would have won, Professor Hulk got so angry that he almost reverted to Banner and Thor wasn't even going all out.

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk (Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course.) - Depends on what Thor does at the best of his abilities, if he fights his usual 'all-out' way, it'll be similar to Sentry, but if he goes for the huge lightning bolts, God Blast or whatever, he wins.

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk - The one that fought Bor and such? He takes it comfortably.

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk - Thor.

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk - Thor atomizes him. I'm Not Saying This Because I Hate You Or Because Thid Post Is SLIGHTLY Bias. But The Fact You Use A Great Hulk Sig And Profile Pic Almost Literally Made Me Puke.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk - Masterson beats the shit out of him. Maybe if it was earlier in his run where he was very inexperienced and had confidence issues, Fixit would win, but his raw strength rivaled beings like Gladiator and as it was outright stated he was more powerful than all the other heroes present against Thanos, including the heralds, Drax, Hulk etc. He had all that raw power, he just had no idea how to access and use it most of the time.

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk (Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightning/attacks) - If they just go punch for punch, Hulk eventually. I guess Thor could knock Hulk out with a powerful blow, but he doesn't wind up and charge with that type of power against peers unless it's like Fraction or something.

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk (Hand to Hand to the death) - Made pretty clear that Thor would have won, Professor Hulk got so angry that he almost reverted to Banner and Thor wasn't even going all out.

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk (Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course.) - Depends on what Thor does at the best of his abilities, if he fights his usual 'all-out' way, it'll be similar to Sentry, but if he goes for the huge lightning bolts, God Blast or whatever, he wins.

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk - The one that fought Bor and such? He takes it comfortably.

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk - Thor.

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk - Thor atomizes him. Neat!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk - Masterson beats the shit out of him. Maybe if it was earlier in his run where he was very inexperienced and had confidence issues, Fixit would win, but his raw strength rivaled beings like Gladiator and as it was outright stated he was more powerful than all the other heroes present against Thanos, including the heralds, Drax, Hulk etc. He had all that raw power, he just had no idea how to access and use it most of the time.

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk (Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightning/attacks) - If they just go punch for punch, Hulk eventually. I guess Thor could knock Hulk out with a powerful blow, but he doesn't wind up and charge with that type of power against peers unless it's like Fraction or something.

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk (Hand to Hand to the death) - Made pretty clear that Thor would have won, Professor Hulk got so angry that he almost reverted to Banner and Thor wasn't even going all out.

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk (Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course.) - Depends on what Thor does at the best of his abilities, if he fights his usual 'all-out' way, it'll be similar to Sentry, but if he goes for the huge lightning bolts, God Blast or whatever, he wins.

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk - The one that fought Bor and such? He takes it comfortably.

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk - Thor.

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk - Thor atomizes him.

Originally posted by Damborgson
1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk - Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightining/attacks

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk- Hand to Hand to the death

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk - Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course.

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk


NO BFR IN ANY OF THESE MATCHES. WHO WINS?
1. Thor
2. Thor 6/10
3. Hulk
4. Hulk
5. Thor
7. Hulk

no RKT?

Originally posted by vansonbee
1. Thor
2. Thor 6/10
3. Hulk
4. Hulk
5. Thor
7. Hulk

no RKT?


nope to unfair

Originally posted by carver9
Your first scan, Thor bfred Nul and koed himself. Bfr is off in this battle.

Does not matter Carver, this is a win for Thor and Hulk was running with extra juice

Originally posted by carver9
Your second scan, that was a stalemate.

Which I stated

Originally posted by carver9
Your third scan, Hulk bfred the hell out of Thor and could have won if he wasn't trying to save Thor life.

Do you have proof of this? or this is just speculation?
Both characters were fighting beyond normal levels

Originally posted by carver9
Fourth scan, Thor won.

Yes

Originally posted by carver9
Fifth scan, same battle, Thor already carrying a koed Hulk to another dimension, he already won that battle and that wouldn't have happened if Hulk was awake.

Oh I was just pointing out, how Thor can BFR Hulk, nothing else

Originally posted by carver9
Sixth scan, lol, Thor damaged Hulk jet pack. Lol at you considering that a win.

Did He continued fighting or was he effectively removed from the fight? I think is a win, with context or a huge asterisk, but a Win for Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
Seventh scan, Hulk was weakened. He was weakened to the point that if he amped his strength, he would revert back to Bruce Banner. Do you even know about the scans you post?

Yes, I know and what you wrote will be really useful for the next point.

Originally posted by carver9
Eighth scan, lol, Thor got thrashed in that fight.

So You complained that on the previous scan Hulk was not at full power, but somehow LOL and say Thor was trashed, because He did not used his hammer in this fight?

Originally posted by carver9
Ninth scan, stalemate.

Yes

Originally posted by carver9
Tenth scan, stalemate.

Yes

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk is greater than Heralds because of his showings against them.

A lot of stalemates vs Thor put him above heralds?

Originally posted by carver9
Moral of story, you don't know what you are talking about.

Sure.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Does not matter Carver, this is a win for Thor and Hulk was running with extra juice






No no no no no. According to Carver, the hammer, protective spells, and stats increase actually weakens Hulk. WWH+ amps = family man level or so

Originally posted by Damborgson
No no no no no. According to Carver, the hammer, protective spells, and stats increase actually weakens Hulk. WWH+ amps = family man level or so

Sometimes is hard to tell if Carver is serious or joking.

But that ^ is funny sh1t

Originally posted by Damborgson
No no no no no. According to Carver, the hammer, protective spells, and stats increase actually weakens Hulk. WWH+ amps = family man level or so not that i agree with carver, but technically speaking there is a precedent to his argument as beta ray bill doesn't get his thor power stacked ontop of his cyborg strength, strength rivaling classic thor's.

another thing is that sure that hulk was green "scar/world breaker" during the transformation into nul, however he was still in the mindset of holding back the 90% of the iceberg he showed in HOTM. he was stronger than base green scar/WB but to assume he was more powerful than that same green scar/WB when he's going all out is unfounded

Originally posted by psycho gundam
not that i agree with carver, but technically speaking there is a precedent to his argument as beta ray bill doesn't get his thor power stacked ontop of his cyborg strength, strength rivaling classic thor's.

another thing is that sure that hulk was green "scar/world breaker" during the transformation into nul, however he was still in the mindset of holding back the 90% of the iceberg he showed in HOTM. he was stronger than base green scar/WB but to assume he was more powerful than that same green scar/WB when he's going all out is unfounded

I get the concept but here's why it's different to me:

Beta Ray Bill received nothing else other than storm breaker and some cool clothes. Nul likewise received a hammer, protective runes or some such and a stated stat increase.

Nul was weaker than WBH was of course. But he wasn't weaker than WWH/Green Scar. There's no possible way to say that someone receives an amp and actually goes backwards in power. (unless you're colossus)

Of course he wasn't at WB levels but superior to the Hulk who fought in the WWH arc before reaching WBH levels doesn't seem at all unreasonable to me. If it's the same persona, and you give him extra power, plus a similar aggressive mindset then it should result in him being stronger/more powerful. Of course even Nul held back at certain times, but so did WWH. Thats how I see it anyway.

WWH>>Nul and there is nothing proving otherwise.

Originally posted by carver9
WWH>>Nul and there is nothing proving otherwise. i wish the forum knew how to quit you (no broke back)

edit* good, i actually still don't agree with carver then.

Originally posted by carver9
WWH>>Nul and there is nothing proving otherwise.

Besides the amps?

Originally posted by carver9
WWH>>Nul and there is nothing proving otherwise. LOL not!

Originally posted by Damborgson
Besides the amps?

There wasn't any amps...especially looking at everything shown on panel. He was a mild WWH with a hammer.

facepalm

Carver, shut up.

Originally posted by carver9
There wasn't any amps...especially looking at everything shown on panel. He was a mild WWH with a hammer. So all the worthy were amped except Hulk?

Originally posted by iceman24567
So all the worthy were amped except Hulk?
Hulk >>> The serpent

You cant amp a being thats stronger than you amirite

Originally posted by Damborgson
Of course he wasn't at WB levels but superior to the Hulk who fought in the WWH arc before reaching WBH levels doesn't seem at all unreasonable to me. If it's the same persona, and you give him extra power, plus a similar aggressive mindset then it should result in him being stronger/more powerful. Of course even Nul held back at certain times, but so did WWH. Thats how I see it anyway.
In WWH he was the angriest he's ever been and had to hold back his power when taking on the heroes. In FI he was calm when he grabbed the hammer, that would have to be a massive amp to bring him back to his actual WWH levels and that was just never shown to be the case on panel.

Hulk's was amped theres's no doubt about that, but honestly I can see why Carver doesn't consider a Hulk taking on Thor with an almost equally powerful partner, a Mjolnir equivalent, not holding back, amped, weather manipulation etc and still getting smacked around by Thor as equal to a Green Scar who defeated Sentry while holding back in WWH.

Thor wins everyone except for number 2.

There I would possibly give the edge to Hulk cause H2H is his specialty but Thor still has powerful hammer blows he can unleash.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
In WWH he was the angriest he's ever been and had to hold back his power when taking on the heroes. In FI he was calm when he grabbed the hammer, that would have to be a massive amp to bring him back to his actual WWH levels and that was just never shown to be the case on panel.

Hulk's was amped theres's no doubt about that, but honestly I can see why Carver doesn't consider a Hulk taking on Thor with an almost equally powerful partner, a Mjolnir equivalent, not holding back, amped, weather manipulation etc and still getting smacked around by Thor as equal to a Green Scar who defeated Sentry while holding back in WWH.

This is exactly what I am saying and have said. This doesnt even include the fact that Reed tech couldn't even get a cap on WWH power levels, he basically stated it was incalculable. Nul was powerful, no doubt but he showed nothing to make me believe he was stronger or more durable than WWH. Getting beat on by Thor and tanking it isn't enough, WWH damage soak exceeded that more than once during the WWH arc. The only thing someone might have going against this is a saying from a fodder Vampire saying Nul is stronger than a USUAL Hulk and another fodder vamp saying Hulk teeth should have came out from being hit by a dumbbell (lol) in the face.

Come at me Jake. Come at me bro.

Nul was an amped WWH. Flat out. And these weren't tiny amps. Thing beat Rulk, Attuma was able to best Silver Surfer, Kuurth could take it to a Juggernaut who was acting close to classic levels(Juggernaut staelamted WWH).

Acting like WWH wasn't amped is flat out not correct. Just because an amped WWH didn't decimate Thor like you wanted carver doesn't change the facts.

Also this is the last time I'm replying to you. Either you're a troll or really don't think these things through. Even fellow Hulk supporters get unto you about it.

Originally posted by carver9
Looking at fights, Hulk will always be above Thor, especially current Hulk.
...

Can't find the scan where Hulk beats Thor to sleep with his own hammer.

Hulk>>>>>>>>Thor/Heralds.

Hold up, Carter. You serious with these scans showing Hulk > Thor?

Let's analyze...

Originally posted by carver9
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Hulk: "Even without hammer, you keep fighting back! Why can't Hulk defeat you? Why? WHY?! WHY?!"

Originally posted by carver9
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Hulk: "Huh? But Hulk smashed long-hair. Why won't long-hair stay down once he's been smashed?"

Originally posted by carver9
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Talbot: "Look at Thor! He's as dangerous as the Hulk!"

Originally posted by carver9
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Surprise blind-side hit from an ally. Nice selection.

Originally posted by carver9
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Thor: "I cannot beat you, you know. And I never could"
Thor then proceeds to beat Nul. Readers everywhere facepalm.

Originally posted by Newjak
Nul was an amped WWH. Flat out. And these weren't tiny amps. Thing beat Rulk, Attuma was able to best Silver Surfer, Kuurth could take it to a Juggernaut who was acting close to classic levels(Juggernaut staelamted WWH).

Acting like WWH wasn't amped is flat out not correct. Just because an amped WWH didn't decimate Thor like you wanted carver doesn't change the facts.

Also this is the last time I'm replying to you. Either you're a troll or really don't think these things through. Even fellow Hulk supporters get unto you about it.

I never said he wasn't amped, I said his strength and durability didn't exceed WWH...that doesn't mean he wasn't amped. The hammer did grant him abilities he didn't have.

Originally posted by Cogito
Hold up, Carter. You serious with these scans showing Hulk > Thor?

Let's analyze...


Hulk: "Even without hammer, you keep fighting back! Why can't Hulk defeat you? Why? WHY?! WHY?!"


Hulk: "Huh? But Hulk smashed long-hair. Why won't long-hair stay down once he's been smashed?"


Talbot: "Look at Thor! He's as dangerous as the Hulk!"


Surprise blind-side hit from an ally. Nice selection.


Thor: "I cannot beat you, you know. And I never could"
Thor then proceeds to beat Nul. Readers everywhere facepalm.

^ That was my reaction too

Originally posted by carver9
I never said he wasn't amped, I said his strength and durability didn't exceed WWH...that doesn't mean he wasn't amped. The hammer did grant him abilities he didn't have. That's your opinion and whether his strength was surpassed or not Hulk doesn't have a big warhammer all his own as WW Hulk. Thor beat not only an amped Hulk but an amped Thing as well.

I already agreed that Thor beat Nul via bfr...why take that away from him? Its not just my opinion though, fts and common sense backs my claim.

Originally posted by carver9
I already agreed that Thor beat Nul via bfr...why take that away from him? Its not just my opinion though, fts and common sense backs my claim. No, they don't. Feats don't determine superiority. Thor beat an amped Hulk and an amped Thing. Great win for Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, they don't. Feats don't determine superiority. Thor beat an amped Hulk and an amped Thing. Great win for Thor.

Like I said before, I am not taking Thor bfr win away from him so why continue with this? As for your other statement, thats why I said "common sense".

Originally posted by The Sorrow
In WWH he was the angriest he's ever been and had to hold back his power when taking on the heroes. In FI he was calm when he grabbed the hammer, that would have to be a massive amp to bring him back to his actual WWH levels and that was just never shown to be the case on panel.

Hulk's was amped theres's no doubt about that, but honestly I can see why Carver doesn't consider a Hulk taking on Thor with an almost equally powerful partner, a Mjolnir equivalent, not holding back, amped, weather manipulation etc and still getting smacked around by Thor as equal to a Green Scar who defeated Sentry while holding back in WWH.

He held back from killing them true enough. But as far as restricting himself to much beyond that seems pretty unlikely. There were other cases where it could be seen he was holding back like against certain members of the X-men in my opinion. but mostly he'd damage them to the point where they were down but restrained himself from causing them death like in cases of Ironman, Doc Strange, Reed, etc. He was calm when he grabbed it but his powers work with rage and he had become an engine of destruction in FI. Just because he didn't have the most brilliant of showings doesn't mean he wasn't at those levels or higher. It was the same persona after all and now he was bent on destruction and was a rage monster again.

He only sees it like that because his boy didn't do as well as he hoped he would. Doesn't mean he's weaker than the levels he was intended to be on at the time. As flashy as the fight between WWH and Sentry was, Sentry's fire storm was nothing to what Thor's power output is. Sentry did what? Destroy city blocks? Thor's storms ravage worlds. Just because he underperformed from his writing under Pak doesn't mean he gets to be considered weaker in my opinion. It was just a good showing for Thor who has also heavily held back in the past.

edit: Hope I'm not sounding dickish about it or something. Not trying to. >_<

Originally posted by carver9
I never said he wasn't amped. Originally posted by carver9
There wasn't any amps...especially looking at everything shown on panel. He was a mild WWH with a hammer.
this is the internet good sir

I forgot to put "physically" which is my main point.

Originally posted by Damborgson
He held back from killing them true enough. But as far as restricting himself to much beyond that seems pretty unlikely. There were other cases where it could be seen he was holding back like against certain members of the X-men in my opinion. but mostly he'd damage them to the point where they were down but restrained himself from causing them death like in cases of Ironman, Doc Strange, Reed, etc. He was calm when he grabbed it but his powers work with rage and he had become an engine of destruction in FI. Just because he didn't have the most brilliant of showings doesn't mean he wasn't at those levels or higher. It was the same persona after all and now he was bent on destruction and was a rage monster again.

He only sees it like that because his boy didn't do as well as he hoped he would. Doesn't mean he's weaker than the levels he was intended to be on at the time. As flashy as the fight between WWH and Sentry was, Sentry's fire storm was nothing to what Thor's power output is. Sentry did what? Destroy city blocks? Thor's storms ravage worlds. Just because he underperformed from his writing under Pak doesn't mean he gets to be considered weaker in my opinion. It was just a good showing for Thor who has also heavily held back in the past.

edit: Hope I'm not sounding dickish about it or something. Not trying to. >_<

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Originally posted by Damborgson
He held back from killing them true enough. But as far as restricting himself to much beyond that seems pretty unlikely. There were other cases where it could be seen he was holding back like against certain members of the X-men in my opinion. but mostly he'd damage them to the point where they were down but restrained himself from causing them death like in cases of Ironman, Doc Strange, Reed, etc. He was calm when he grabbed it but his powers work with rage and he had become an engine of destruction in FI. Just because he didn't have the most brilliant of showings doesn't mean he wasn't at those levels or higher. It was the same persona after all and now he was bent on destruction and was a rage monster again.

He only sees it like that because his boy didn't do as well as he hoped he would. Doesn't mean he's weaker than the levels he was intended to be on at the time. As flashy as the fight between WWH and Sentry was, Sentry's fire storm was nothing to what Thor's power output is. Sentry did what? Destroy city blocks? Thor's storms ravage worlds. Just because he underperformed from his writing under Pak doesn't mean he gets to be considered weaker in my opinion. It was just a good showing for Thor who has also heavily held back in the past.

edit: Hope I'm not sounding dickish about it or something. Not trying to. >_<
It's been stated several times since WWH that he held back his power, he wasn't going all out whatever way you slice it. Then what are we meant to base Nul Hulk on besides his showings? He didn't look as impressive as Hulk did in WWH and that's undeniable, so Carver's doubts about them being equal are reasonable imo.

Characters rarely cause planetary damage on Earth, and tbh both have planetary level energy projection. The blast Thor used on Nul and those from Siege weren't more than a city block either. WWH stood in the epicenter of his energy projection while taking Sentry on, iirc Sentry was matching Thor in Siege without even using energy projection.

Sentry was operating on a higher level during Siege.

1. Masterson would win
2. Savage Hulk
3. Assuming there is no savage banner limitation then Prof/Merged Hulk wins this eventually.
4. Split or edge Hulk, Thor should win obviously if he fights smart but if in character and in the manner he fidgets Hulk typically, then Hulk has the advantage here.
5. Thor
6. Thor
7. Thor

Originally posted by Naija boy
1. Masterson would win
2. Savage Hulk
3. Assuming there is no savage banner limitation then Prof/Merged Hulk wins this eventually.
4. Split or edge Hulk, Thor should win obviously if he fights smart but if in character and in the manner he fidgets Hulk typically, then Hulk has the advantage here.
5. Thor
6. Thor
7. Thor

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Hercules_Thumbs_Up.jpg

Supes relieves Thor of his duties, and shows the Odinson how to put the Green One down.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
It's been stated several times since WWH that he held back his power, he wasn't going all out whatever way you slice it. Then what are we meant to base Nul Hulk on besides his showings? He didn't look as impressive as Hulk did in WWH and that's undeniable, so Carver's doubts about them being equal are reasonable imo.

Characters rarely cause planetary damage on Earth, and tbh both have planetary level energy projection. The blast Thor used on Nul and those from Siege weren't more than a city block either. WWH stood in the epicenter of his energy projection while taking Sentry on, iirc Sentry was matching Thor in Siege without even using energy projection.

Stopping yourself from killing someone is holding back. He was holding back of course, but it's not like that fight would have been drastically changed against Sentry if he had decided to try and go for the kill. He fought to win, and there are only so many ways you can throw a punch. The only difference is after he turned back to Hulk he'd have finished Sentry, not that it would change his performance in the fight much or at all.

Underestimation of Thor is the only thing that makes it look less impressive. Besides Bendis powered Avengers hassling him what exactly makes you think of him as less impressive? Thor has always been someone who can fight with his peers and superior and win when he starts using more of his power and cutting loose a bit. Wanting the same green scar persona with amps to be considered weaker just because WWH didn't happen again basically is a pretty weak argument to me. It's just a side effect of wanting to believe he's weaker because Thor looked very good against him. Otherwise Hulk will always have that excuse. "Well uh he didn't seem quite as powerful to me. WWH was still more impressive. He must be a weaker version." Haha No.

Yes but his skin was burning off. And he was starting to get heavily damaged. Siege Sentry would beat the hell out of WWH sentry. He had another dose of the serum that turned him into Sentry, was killing to Kill and was running on the power of the void. Thor still had him on the ropes until the void really started taking over. If it hadn't, Thor had blown a while in his back with lightning so.....

Originally posted by Zack Fair
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1. Thor
2. Hulk
3. Thor with ease
4. Thor- Thor shows Hulk what a god can do when he doesn't hold back!
5. Thor in a stomp
6. Holy f-ing shit, stomp for Thor
7. Not even worth saying "stomp" Thor gets a beer afterwards, while hulk recuperates in the ICU

Originally posted by Damborgson
Stopping yourself from killing someone is holding back. He was holding back of course, but it's not like that fight would have been drastically changed against Sentry if he had decided to try and go for the kill. He fought to win, and there are only so many ways you can throw a punch. The only difference is after he turned back to Hulk he'd have finished Sentry, not that it would change his performance in the fight much or at all.

Underestimation of Thor is the only thing that makes it look less impressive. Besides Bendis powered Avengers hassling him what exactly makes you think of him as less impressive? Thor has always been someone who can fight with his peers and superior and win when he starts using more of his power and cutting loose a bit. Wanting the same green scar persona with amps to be considered weaker just because WWH didn't happen again basically is a pretty weak argument to me. It's just a side effect of wanting to believe he's weaker because Thor looked very good against him. Otherwise Hulk will always have that excuse. "Well uh he didn't seem quite as powerful to me. WWH was still more impressive. He must be a weaker version." Haha No.

Yes but his skin was burning off. And he was starting to get heavily damaged. Siege Sentry would beat the hell out of WWH sentry. He had another dose of the serum that turned him into Sentry, was killing to Kill and was running on the power of the void. Thor still had him on the ropes until the void really started taking over. If it hadn't, Thor had blown a while in his back with lightning so.....
Whatever your definition of holding back is, the fight would have ended sooner if Hulk cut loose.

Fear Itself was a Thor story so of course he was going to look good, it made Thor look good while still giving Hulk some props. For me it isn't an issue but for some who are true Hulk fans I could see why they why they might think as Carver does. The only true indicator to Nul's power was Dracula statement about Hulk being more powerful than his "usual" self, that's a very open ended statement. WWH was more powerful than his usual self, at a level "Earth had never seen before" and this point was rammed down our throats.

Personally I don't think it really makes a difference if Nul is=to WWH, Nul shrugged off Thor's best offence after just a few seconds that's impressive.

Green Scar was being damaged but I don't see Thor standing up to the same kind of punishment. When Sentry took Thor on initially he wasn't unleashing his power like that nor was he using his Void powerset and he still matched Thor. Also Sentry had been taking serums his whole life not just prior to invading Asgard.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Supes relieves Thor of his duties, and shows the Odinson how to put the Green One down.

Originally posted by The Sorrow


Green Scar was being damaged but I don't see Thor standing up to the same kind of punishment. When Sentry took Thor on initially he wasn't unleashing his power like that nor was he using his Void powerset and he still matched Thor. Also Sentry had been taking serums his whole life not just prior to invading Asgard. What are you talking about by the time Thor was fighting Sentry, Sentry was clearly voiding out and not the same Sentry WWH fought.

Originally posted by Newjak
What are you talking about by the time Thor was fighting Sentry, Sentry was clearly voiding out and not the same Sentry WWH fought.
Sentry Voided out after Thor hit him with everything, they were fighting a good while before that happened.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Sentry Voided out after Thor hit him with everything, they were fighting a good while before that happened. You mean he was the normal sentry while black tendrils were coming out of him?

He didn't have tendrils out when they first fought and he still tanked Thor attacks.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Whatever your definition of holding back is, the fight would have ended sooner if Hulk cut loose.

Fear Itself was a Thor story so of course he was going to look good, it made Thor look good while still giving Hulk some props. For me it isn't an issue but for some who are true Hulk fans I could see why they why they might think as Carver does. The only true indicator to Nul's power was Dracula statement about Hulk being more powerful than his "usual" self, that's a very open ended statement. WWH was more powerful than his usual self, at a level "Earth had never seen before" and this point was rammed down our throats.

Personally I don't think it really makes a difference if Nul is=to WWH, Nul shrugged off Thor's best offence after just a few seconds that's impressive.

Green Scar was being damaged but I don't see Thor standing up to the same kind of punishment. When Sentry took Thor on initially he wasn't unleashing his power like that nor was he using his Void powerset and he still matched Thor. Also Sentry had been taking serums his whole life not just prior to invading Asgard.

I really don't think it would have. Hulk was fighting to win. And he planned to stop before any deaths occured. The only difference that would have happened had he gone for the kill is Sentry would have died. It'd still have been a flashy show like it was. Just to the death.

Such a weak excuse man. Same retarded logic that the writer of "let the battle begin" used. "Well it was a hulk comic. Of course he had to win!"

Well I think I've done enough to prove why that line of thinking is wrong. They can keep thinking it but it's not really anything else but denial now. It's basically a nuh-uh and a stamp of the foot at this point.

his "usual" self was WWH at that time. Suggesting otherwise is saying amps weaken him. Which I think we can agree doesn't make sense? Especially with the dramatic increase in power of the other worthy. Unless Hulk was the only one not amped.

Nul isn't=WWH he's > WWH. Yeah it was impressive. He took some good hits from Mjolnir from a Thor who was willing to kill him.

Why wouldn't you see Thor taking it? He's taken worse on multiple occasions.

Yeah he matches Thor until Thor blew open his back lol. They were faily even physically thats all. And sentry was starting to void out already when he tanked the hit from Thor.

So what? He took another shot right before invading Asgard that increased his power to higher levels than WWH which is the point.

Originally posted by carver9
He didn't have tendrils out when they first fought and he still tanked Thor attacks.

he was sent flying twice and was already beginning to void during one of those. Thats not tanking. He did tank the attack from when he first touched down for another round against Thor though.

Was Nul even KOed after Thor hit him? Sry didn't read the entire thread, so I'm just jumping in.

Originally posted by Stoic
Was Nul even KOed after Thor hit him? Sry didn't read the entire thread, so I'm just jumping in.

Momentarily yes. Just not ktfo or anything.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I really don't think it would have. Hulk was fighting to win. And he planned to stop before any deaths occured. The only difference that would have happened had he gone for the kill is Sentry would have died. It'd still have been a flashy show like it was. Just to the death.

Such a weak excuse man. Same retarded logic that the writer of "let the battle begin" used. "Well it was a hulk comic. Of course he had to win!"

Well I think I've done enough to prove why that line of thinking is wrong. They can keep thinking it but it's not really anything else but denial now. It's basically a nuh-uh and a stamp of the foot at this point.

his "usual" self was WWH at that time. Suggesting otherwise is saying amps weaken him. Which I think we can agree doesn't make sense? Especially with the dramatic increase in power of the other worthy. Unless Hulk was the only one not amped.

Nul isn't=WWH he's > WWH. Yeah it was impressive. He took some good hits from Mjolnir from a Thor who was willing to kill him.

Why wouldn't you see Thor taking it? He's taken worse on multiple occasions.

Yeah he matches Thor until Thor blew open his back lol. They were faily even physically thats all. And sentry was starting to void out already when he tanked the hit from Thor.

So what? He took another shot right before invading Asgard that increased his power to higher levels than WWH which is the point. Good stuff.

Thor ftw.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I really don't think it would have. Hulk was fighting to win. And he planned to stop before any deaths occured. The only difference that would have happened had he gone for the kill is Sentry would have died. It'd still have been a flashy show like it was. Just to the death.
Hulk was talking to him as a friend and telling Sentry to stand down, if he wanted to really unleash his power he would have like in the Dark Dimension where no innocents were in danger. According to you it makes no difference whether Hulk holds back or not even though the exact opposite has been shown on panel, your not making points or using facts your just lowballing here.


Then I guess most writers would be retards according to you because generally the central characters in an event perform well.
Fear Itself was a Cap/Thor centered story, just as World War Hulks was a Hulks story so obviously Thor, Cap, Hulk etc are going to get some decent feats. Look at AvX, Thor has taken more of a backseat in this arc and has been KO'd around 6 times so far and embarrassed on other occasions while central characters like Wolvie and Cap have had great showings.


I think you need to read more Hulk books tbh because your posts show your a bit misinformed on the character. Hulk is not at WWH levels all the time, it took extreme anger levels through the death of loved ones to get there. Regular or "usual" Hulk isn't one shotting Ares, Thing, 3 shotting Hercules, casually overpowering a 100 trillion tonner with one arm, easily beating a hugely amped Rulk etc. Honestly you haven't proven much of anything. Your not even using facts here, just your opinion that is unsupported and in this case is irrelevant really. Your claim of Nul being> WWH is completely baseless and the only reason your pushing the issue is because it bumps up Thor.


Similarly Thor has also been KO'd by a lot less, bar his highest showings he isn't tanking Sentry's all out EP whilst simultaneously taking shots to the face. That's a feat that is simply beyond Thor.

Sentry learnt that his power stems from molecular manipulation and had better control over it but besides this imo he didn't do anything to suggest he was more powerful in Siege than previous. In fact his durability was quite crappy once Bendis took over compared to his more invulnerable self in his mini and MA.
In DA/Siege he was constantly reforming rather than just straight tanking attacks like he did pre-Bendis. Sentry has always been crazy powerful when in the right state of mind.

This thread is stupid

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Hulk was talking to him as a friend and telling Sentry to stand down, if he wanted to really unleash his power he would have like in the Dark Dimension where no innocents were in danger.
Dark Dimension was not 616 reality. Who knows what the properties were for that realm.
It should not even be treated as canon.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Dark Dimension was not 616 reality. Who knows what the properties were for that realm.
It should not even be treated as canon.

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At everything else being discussed...at least we now know that regular Savage Hulk can one shot Thor. WWH would cream him and WBH would melt him going by current depictions of what has been happening with Hull recently.

WBH is too much for Thor...can't picture him surviving a single punch. WWH one shots him worse than what Savage Hulk has done.

This thread can be closed now.

Forgot to add, Sentry>>>Thor. Sentry withstood a barrage of hits from WWH whereas Thor cant even withstand a single hit.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Hulk was talking to him as a friend and telling Sentry to stand down, if he wanted to really unleash his power he would have like in the Dark Dimension where no innocents were in danger. According to you it makes no difference whether Hulk holds back or not even though the exact opposite has been shown on panel, your not making points or using facts your just lowballing here.


Then I guess most writers would be retards according to you because generally the central characters in an event perform well.
Fear Itself was a Cap/Thor centered story, just as World War Hulks was a Hulks story so obviously Thor, Cap, Hulk etc are going to get some decent feats. Look at AvX, Thor has taken more of a backseat in this arc and has been KO'd around 6 times so far and embarrassed on other occasions while central characters like Wolvie and Cap have had great showings.


I think you need to read more Hulk books tbh because your posts show your a bit misinformed on the character. Hulk is not at WWH levels all the time, it took extreme anger levels through the death of loved ones to get there. Regular or "usual" Hulk isn't one shotting Ares, Thing, 3 shotting Hercules, casually overpowering a 100 trillion tonner with one arm, easily beating a hugely amped Rulk etc. Honestly you haven't proven much of anything. Your not even using facts here, just your opinion that is unsupported and in this case is irrelevant really. Your claim of Nul being> WWH is completely baseless and the only reason your pushing the issue is because it bumps up Thor.


Similarly Thor has also been KO'd by a lot less, bar his highest showings he isn't tanking Sentry's all out EP whilst simultaneously taking shots to the face. That's a feat that is simply beyond Thor.

Sentry learn that his power stems from molecular manipulation and had better control over it but besides this imo he didn't do anything to suggest he was more powerful in Siege than previous. In fact his durability was quite crappy once Bendis took over compared to his more invulnerable self in his mini and MA.
In DA/Siege he was constantly reforming rather than just straight tanking attacks like he did pre-Bendis. Sentry has always been crazy powerful when in the right state of mind.

He than punched him until his face turned into a bloody pulp. Yeah man, I see how hard it is for Hulk to not Hold back.

He couldn't control the world breaker until a long time after WWH. At the time, WWH was his best. Then we saw the first glimpse of WBH after he reached new levels in power.

If you're going to accuse of lowballing at least take the time to read the comics. Or don't think I'm stupid at least. Because you know (or so I thought) that Hulk had not achived WBH status at the time and couldn't turn into WBH on a dime like HOTM Hulk. Try a bit harder next time.

See this is where you're argument trips up. The argument "Thor only did good cuz it was his book" isn't a valid one. Otherwise that excuse can be used for anything. Hulk didn't actually do well in WWH. It was all plot device and jobbing to make him look good and he's incapable of doing it outside his own books. According to you're flawed argument anyway. Also jobbing is jobbing. It happens to everyone. Thor being disrespected at the moment doesn't really mean anything outside him being disrespected. His top feat in AvX has been KO'ing the Phoenix Force anyway so it makes up for a part of it I would think.

I'm willing to bet I know more about Hulk than you do. He's not my golden boy, but to argue against him properly I have to know about him. Not anymore it doesn't. Banner became WBH at the drop of a hat during HOTM. His anger doesn't directly affect his powers anymore. He's still at WWH levels. Arguing against that is just the hulk fans' way of giving an excuse for their boy when he looses. If he does poorly or not at the level he's expected he obviously wasn't angry enough and therefore the loss doesn't count. It's a weak obvious argument that keeps being used by people no matter how flawed because it's easier than dealing with reality.

How is it baseless when I've provided more than enough to show what it's based on? It's not an opinion when it's supported by comics. No character receives upgrades to his power and then becomes weaker. That you're even arguing this is absolutely ridiculous. It's not hard to see why though. It makes WWH look bad.

I don't need to use Hulk as a way to bump Thor. Thor is > Hulk. As long as he stays the one dimensional character that he is that won't ever change.

It isn't though. Thor is know for his damage soak. It's comparable to Hulk even with his amazing HF. You don't get to say Thor can't take it because it was hard for Hulk to do it. Not when he's proven that he can. He wouldn't be in good shape I'll give you that. But take it? Sure he can.

So I'm the one who lowballs, but here you are trying to take another victory from Thor that tops Hulk. He didn't beat an amped Hulk and he didn't beat a superior Sentry than WWH sentry. Of course. It makes WWH look bad. Fact is, Sentry received another shot of serum and was running on the voids power. The guy who casually broke every bone in savage Hulk's body. Under Bendis he reformed more, but he took on more powerful opponents. He was taken out of exsistence by Morgana Le Fay, destroyed multiple times by having his molecules scattered or his body parts blown off through molecule manipulation, and he took an enormous blast from Thor which is hardly a low showing seeing as who Thor can and has affected with his Lightning.

Originally posted by Damborgson
He than punched him until his face turned into a bloody pulp. Yeah man, I see how hard it is for Hulk to not Hold back.

He couldn't control the world breaker until a long time after WWH. At the time, WWH was his best. Then we saw the first glimpse of WBH after he reached new levels in power.

If you're going to accuse of lowballing at least take the time to read the comics. Or don't think I'm stupid at least. Because you know (or so I thought) that Hulk had not achived WBH status at the time and couldn't turn into WBH on a dime like HOTM Hulk. Try a bit harder next time.

See this is where you're argument trips up. The argument "Thor only did good cuz it was his book" isn't a valid one. Otherwise that excuse can be used for anything. Hulk didn't actually do well in WWH. It was all plot device and jobbing to make him look good and he's incapable of doing it outside his own books. According to you're flawed argument anyway. Also jobbing is jobbing. It happens to everyone. Thor being disrespected at the moment doesn't really mean anything outside him being disrespected. His top feat in AvX has been KO'ing the Phoenix Force anyway so it makes up for a part of it I would think.

I'm willing to bet I know more about Hulk than you do. He's not my golden boy, but to argue against him properly I have to know about him. Not anymore it doesn't. Banner became WBH at the drop of a hat during HOTM. His anger doesn't directly affect his powers anymore. He's still at WWH levels. Arguing against that is just the hulk fans' way of giving an excuse for their boy when he looses. If he does poorly or not at the level he's expected he obviously wasn't angry enough and therefore the loss doesn't count. It's a weak obvious argument that keeps being used by people no matter how flawed because it's easier than dealing with reality.

How is it baseless when I've provided more than enough to show what it's based on? It's not an opinion when it's supported by comics. No character receives upgrades to his power and then becomes weaker. That you're even arguing this is absolutely ridiculous. It's not hard to see why though. It makes WWH look bad.

I don't need to use Hulk as a way to bump Thor. Thor is > Hulk. As long as he stays the one dimensional character that he is that won't ever change.

It isn't though. Thor is know for his damage soak. It's comparable to Hulk even with his amazing HF. You don't get to say Thor can't take it because it was hard for Hulk to do it. Not when he's proven that he can. He wouldn't be in good shape I'll give you that. But take it? Sure he can.

So I'm the one who lowballs, but here you are trying to take another victory from Thor that tops Hulk. He didn't beat an amped Hulk and he didn't beat a superior Sentry than WWH sentry. Of course. It makes WWH look bad. Fact is, Sentry received another shot of serum and was running on the voids power. The guy who casually broke every bone in savage Hulk's body. Under Bendis he reformed more, but he took on more powerful opponents. He was taken out of exsistence by Morgana Le Fay, destroyed multiple times by having his molecules scattered or his body parts blown off through molecule manipulation, and he took an enormous blast from Thor which is hardly a low showing seeing as who Thor can and has affected with his Lightning. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6ne8eYjfA1rw4lnuo4_500.png

The lie is in the thread title...this will never be the last Thor vs. Hulk thread. I keep my sanity by not playing this game anymore.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Hulk was talking to him as a friend and telling Sentry to stand down, if he wanted to really unleash his power he would have like in the Dark Dimension where no innocents were in danger. According to you it makes no difference whether Hulk holds back or not even though the exact opposite has been shown on panel, your not making points or using facts your just lowballing here.


Then I guess most writers would be retards according to you because generally the central characters in an event perform well.
Fear Itself was a Cap/Thor centered story, just as World War Hulks was a Hulks story so obviously Thor, Cap, Hulk etc are going to get some decent feats. Look at AvX, Thor has taken more of a backseat in this arc and has been KO'd around 6 times so far and embarrassed on other occasions while central characters like Wolvie and Cap have had great showings.


I think you need to read more Hulk books tbh because your posts show your a bit misinformed on the character. Hulk is not at WWH levels all the time, it took extreme anger levels through the death of loved ones to get there. Regular or "usual" Hulk isn't one shotting Ares, Thing, 3 shotting Hercules, casually overpowering a 100 trillion tonner with one arm, easily beating a hugely amped Rulk etc. Honestly you haven't proven much of anything. Your not even using facts here, just your opinion that is unsupported and in this case is irrelevant really. Your claim of Nul being> WWH is completely baseless and the only reason your pushing the issue is because it bumps up Thor.


Similarly Thor has also been KO'd by a lot less, bar his highest showings he isn't tanking Sentry's all out EP whilst simultaneously taking shots to the face. That's a feat that is simply beyond Thor.

Sentry learnt that his power stems from molecular manipulation and had better control over it but besides this imo he didn't do anything to suggest he was more powerful in Siege than previous. In fact his durability was quite crappy once Bendis took over compared to his more invulnerable self in his mini and MA.
In DA/Siege he was constantly reforming rather than just straight tanking attacks like he did pre-Bendis. Sentry has always been crazy powerful when in the right state of mind.

Good post.