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This is full Powered Beta Ray...the one that aided in saving Galactus life using his final explosive power vs a non holding back Supes.

For this fight, Bill can stay at this mode without being in fear of dying or weakening...its consistently on with no damage to him.

Who wins? Pre Reboot Superman.

Which Superman? Pre Reboot and the new 52?

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Which Superman? Pre Reboot and the new 52?

Edited.

Just out of curiosity:

Galactus eats entire planets.

Countless billions of lives.

Why exactly would any hero try to save HIS life?

It'd be like trying to save the life of the Anti-Monitor, just on smaller scale.



Unless Galactus performs some positive function that I remain unaware of ...?

There are a few reasons I guess. One is he keeps the Celestial population down, which would destroy the universe.

troll ?

isn't the celestial population thing only in earth x ?

I've seen it mentioned in 616. They have Celestial "eggs" there. I know it's been stated too many celestials in a universe will destroy it.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I've seen it mentioned in 616. They have Celestial "eggs" there. I know it's been stated too many celestials in a universe will destroy it.

1. Apart from Earth-X , Celestials' birth in that particular fashion has only been referenced in Hickman's SHIELD . And even in that arc , Galactus' relation with them wasn't specified .
2. Its unknown whether SHIELD is part of the mainstream 616 universe .

Galactus is a necessary "evil" in the universe.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Just out of curiosity:

Galactus eats entire planets.

Countless billions of lives.

Why exactly would any hero try to save HIS life?

It'd be like trying to save the life of the Anti-Monitor, just on smaller scale.



Unless Galactus performs some positive function that I remain unaware of ...?

actually when he saved his life in godhunter, I think there was a mention that Galactus death would wipe out everything in every direction for a couple dozen light years or something like that. I need to re-read it.

He also keeps Abraxas in check and he's got to be around to start the next universe.

Anyway I think Bill can take this.

As an embodiment of Equity , he also maintains balance in the universe , which prevents the LT from razing the entire reality into subatomic particles .

And everyone knows about the Abraxas part .

Originally posted by Damborgson
actually when he saved his life in godhunter, I think there was a mention that Galactus death would wipe out everything in every direction for a couple dozen light years or something like that. I need to re-read it.

Yeah, I believe you're right in that instance.

I also do think a big purpose is to keep the Celestial population down. I'm looking for the reference, if I find it, I'll post it here.

On topic of the thread, Superman wrecks Bill.

Superman at his best too?

Superman, then.

Bill.

After Bill 'decoupled', he did better against the I'Than army that was attacking Galactus, then multiple heralds (ie. Stardust and Surfer) were able to do in an extended battle--yet Bill was only able to sustain his decoupled powerlevel for "minutes" before reaching critical mass. But in this thread he is able to operate at those levels indefinitely? Yeah, I have to side with Bill here.

Originally posted by Galan007
After Bill 'decoupled', he did better against the I'Than army that was attacking Galactus, then multiple heralds (ie. Stardust and Surfer) were able to do in an extended battle--yet Bill was only able to sustain his decoupled powerlevel for "minutes" before reaching critical mass. But in this thread he is able to operate at those levels indefinitely? Yeah, I have to side with Bill here.

Superman at his best would be OWAW all out superman when he outperformed entire JLA which included an ion powered kyle rayner. This is not even a fight.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman at his best would be OWAW all out superman when he outperformed entire JLA which included an ion powered kyle rayner. This is not even a fight.

Wasn't he sunamped during that?

Originally posted by jalek moye
Wasn't he sunamped during that?
Only to move warworld. Before that he was crushing imperiex probes like paper while in all out mode.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman at his best would be OWAW all out superman when he outperformed entire JLA which included an ion powered kyle rayner. This is not even a fight.

Actually i would say it's him with the Strange Visitor fusion in OWAW, or when Orion was explaining to him how the New Gods powers really works. As in when the New Gods comes to main Earth, Mother Box shrinks them to human level height, where as when Superman goes to there world, Mother Box makes him take the same form as a New God.

Might have the Mother Box thing a little mixed up since its been a while since i've read that issue.

Originally posted by SquallX
Actually i would say it's him with the Strange Visitor fusion in OWAW, or when Orion was explaining to him how the New Gods powers really works. As in when the New Gods comes to main Earth, Mother Box shrinks them to human level height, where as when Superman goes to there world, Mother Box makes him take the same form as a New God.

Might have the Mother Box thing a little mixed up since its been a while since i've read that issue.
No outside amps.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No outside amps.

oops, didn't see that.

Then ill go with sun amp Superman

It wouldn't be Wednesday without another carver bait thread. mmm

Originally posted by abhilegend
No outside amps. Wouldn't sundipping be an outside amp, though?

Originally posted by Galan007
Wouldn't sundipping be an outside amp, though?
He wasn't sundipped when he was busting imperiex probes alongside doomsday.

Oh, THAT'S the OWAW Supes you were referring to. Got it.