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Can these three defeat Superman?

No only no, but HELL no. The only prayer they have, and it's slight, is if Monica figures out his red sun radiation and/or kryptonite weakness and that crap isn't common knowledge (is it?).

Superman wins or it ends in a stalemate (if they stay in their non physical energy forms). IMHO they don't have the power output to put him down or even hurt him seriously.

Monica stop a fight between Hercules and Namor by blasting them away from each other. Reed used her output along with hel from Spider-Man and Iron Mans tech to blast a whole in the side of that 150billion ton mountain

Originally posted by golem370
Monica stop a fight between Hercules and Namor by blasting them away from each other. Reed used her output along with hel from Spider-Man and Iron Mans tech to blast a whole in the side of that 150billion ton mountain
Hercules and Namor != Superman.

Regarding that Secret Wars incident. It was Monica, Tony, AND the Human Torch combining their powers (Spider Man only provided the raw materials Reed needed to rig everything together).

You could have mentioned the Zeus incident, where she let loose and Thor commented that she hurt Zeus as no mortal ever has. But arc was a very low showing for Zeus. So make of it what you will.

Originally posted by zopzop
No only no, but HELL no. The only prayer they have, and it's slight, is if Monica figures out his red sun radiation and/or kryptonite weakness and that crap isn't common knowledge (is it?).

It is.



What has DCnU Supes done anyway?

Strength wise they could both are close imo specially Hercules. Zzzax's bio said he could incinerated a whole block in minutes and he like feeding off eletrical impulses in human brains.

Superman wins this easily.

Again just watch Superman vs The Elites

Monica is underrated here. She can easily replicate red solar radiation to depower him, then just blow him to shreds once his durability is gone.

i'm not even sure what superman could DO to her, since she's usually intangible in her energy states, can go completely invisible, make energy clones, etc.

Living laser and Zzzax are cannon fodder though.

team

Zzzax is not going down easy he is super strong hard to stop and is also intangible

Monica wins.

Team can pull some wins, but going with supes

Originally posted by guy222
team

word

Superman

if she floods him with red sun rays they have a chance. otherwise they are screwed.

Wait is Superman unable to be cut? The living laser or Monica could cast beams so thin and powerful that they would penetrate Superman. Monica also has the ability to power leech doesn't she? Superman is a battery. I think they would slaughter him. This team is not the Elites, nor should they have to be.

Originally posted by Stoic
Wait is Superman unable to be cut? The living laser or Monica could cast beams so thin and powerful that they would penetrate Superman. Monica also has the ability to power leech doesn't she? Superman is a battery. I think they would slaughter him. This team is not the Elites, nor should they have to be.
Even persuader's axe hasn't cut superman. As for energy draining who has monica drained?

Team, only because of Monica. She been know to run up and down the energy spectrum until she found the right energy to affect something...so there a chance she will run upon the right wavelength of sunlight to win.

What about Zzzax attacking is minds electrical impulses?

team

Still team

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even persuader's axe hasn't cut superman. As for energy draining who has monica drained?

Persuader didn't try to cut Superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even persuader's axe hasn't cut superman. As for energy draining who has monica drained?

I don't recall draining per se, But a "not ****ing around" monica hit zeus with enough force that he was barely able to stand afterwards and had trouble speaking.

Superman is tough, but he's not surviving that.

Team losses badly

Originally posted by Space M ummy
I don't recall draining per se, But a "not ****ing around" monica hit zeus with enough force that he was barely able to stand afterwards and had trouble speaking.

Superman is tough, but he's not surviving that.
That was after Zeus was hit by his own thunderbolt and it was a team effort, before that he was ignoring them completely. Zeus was also physically restrained by Thor and She-hulk later on while he was in fabled "Warrior madness".

That's not her average level anyway.

Originally posted by carver9
Persuader didn't try to cut Superman.
Still trying that lie carter?

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