Spiderman Vs The Creeper

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Whiteclipse
Fight takes place in New York

zopzop
If he catches Superman unawares, dual KO.

If Superman keeps his distance and zaps him with heat vision, Superman wins.

We talking about this guy right? smile
http://download.gamezone.com/uploads/image/data/871850/minecraft-creeper-4381_preview.png

Whiteclipse
Originally posted by zopzop
If he catches Superman unawares, dual KO.

If Superman keeps his distance and zaps him with heat vision, Superman wins.

We talking about this guy right? smile
http://download.gamezone.com/uploads/image/data/871850/minecraft-creeper-4381_preview.png



Hahaha nope thats from minecraft i believe


Also its Spiderman not Superman. I meant DC's Creeper

Damborgson
Originally posted by zopzop
If he catches Superman unawares, dual KO.

If Superman keeps his distance and zaps him with heat vision, Superman wins.


Originally posted by Damborgson
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ColossusGrundy
Spiderman..........with heat vision.............?

OH, you said SUPERman.......

well..............SPIDERman vs Creeper = good fight.

I'd say a split. I don't really give an advantage to either. Creeper is just psychotic enough to fight Spidey properly.

Whiteclipse
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Spiderman..........with heat vision.............?

OH, you said SUPERman.......

well..............SPIDERman vs Creeper = good fight.

I'd say a split. I don't really give an advantage to either. Creeper is just psychotic enough to fight Spidey properly.


I agree. I was hoping everyone else would pitch in with this one. Would be interesting to see this one debated

namorsubby
Creeper has been sufficiently upgraded in recent years. His regenerative abilities are off the charts, along with some added abilities. I'd say spidey could still pull a good majority.

TheRedEclipse
Are you guys serious? Creeper has this. It may take him awhile but he'll still kick spideys ass. I've seen the creeper 1 hit batman, and batman could survive the vacuum of space for over a minute. Also the creeper could regenerate from any injury. And he can probably just claw through or break through spiderman's webs if he had to

zopzop
Creeper wins.

carver9
Originally posted by TheRedEclipse
Are you guys serious? Creeper has this. It may take him awhile but he'll still kick spideys ass. I've seen the creeper 1 hit batman, and batman could survive the vacuum of space for over a minute. Also the creeper could regenerate from any injury. And he can probably just claw through or break through spiderman's webs if he had to

confused

DarkSaint85
Creeper.

Far more durable (tanking machine gun fire):
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195015-5060434645-14744.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195016-4049824403-31949.jpg

And survivng a massive explosion:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195020-7509212152-13524.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195021-5113340260-13524.jpg

Offensively, he has his laugh:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195075-4668386282-13432.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195076-1796584293-13432.jpg

SamZED
He heals but he's not more durable. Those bullets did penetrate his skin. Spider-man's survived massive explosions as well but those are high-end feats. Also the laugh wont work on SpOck, his tech would protect him.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by SamZED
He heals but he's not more durable. Those bullets did penetrate his skin. Spider-man's survived massive explosions as well but those are high-end feats. Also the laugh wont work on SpOck, his tech would protect him.

True, but in the very next panel or so, he's completely healed - that (IMO) is Wolverine level healing.

As for the tech, would it help in an unplanned straight up fight? I saw SpOck as more of a prep guy, rather than an adapt on the fly type of guy. Could be wrong though, does he now have sonic protection?

Then of course, Creeper's laugh is also able to shatter helmet visors:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195082-3520465069-Sonic.jpg

His speed and agility, IMHO is also on par with Spidey's. Plus, he can control his hair.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195214-8736546523-Creep.jpg

SamZED
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True, but in the very next panel or so, he's completely healed - that (IMO) is Wolverine level healing.

As for the tech, would it help in an unplanned straight up fight? I saw SpOck as more of a prep guy, rather than an adapt on the fly type of guy. Could be wrong though, does he now have sonic protection?

Then of course, Creeper's laugh is also able to shatter helmet visors:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195082-3520465069-Sonic.jpg

His speed and agility, IMHO is also on par with Spidey's. Plus, he can control his hair.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195214-8736546523-Creep.jpg HF is a good advantage agreed. I'm just saying being able to heal doesn't mean his body's tougher in general.
Yes, Pete came up with the tech and Ock is using it in his current suit, it was shown when he last fought Hobgoblin who has similar power. Ock doesn't need to activate it, it just protects him from all sorts of sonic attacks. When Kaine had the tech it protected him from Queen's sonic scream, the same scream that took down Wolverine and Red Hulk.

carver9
Havent seen a single ft that put Creeper on Spiderman level.

DarkSaint85
Then Google his respect thread.

A high end feat for him is actually surviving being decapitated and dismembered...

Are you trying to low ball, carver?

We have it clear as day, he heals faster than the Flash on crack.

He has speed/agility comparable to Spidey (bullet timing, Black Lantern timing)

He has the laugh, which can shatter plastic visors (bulletproof? Maybe, maybe not....but they'd certainly be toughened plastic) and incapacitate.

He has Medusa like (or maybe Carnage like?) Tendrils, which can attack from all sides.

Of course, if you're using SpOck, it makes sense to use DCnU Creeper. Who stomps....

SamZED
I thought DCnU Creeper's shtick was possessing people? Which didnt work for Carrion in Sulerior team up. Or does DCnU Creeper got other tricks?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by SamZED
I thought DCnU Creeper's shtick was possessing people? Which didnt work for Carrion in Sulerior team up. Or does DCnU Creeper got other tricks?

Different forms, I thought? One was through a virus, the otheris like Deadman?

zopzop
Originally posted by carver9
Havent seen a single ft that put Creeper on Spiderman level.
Well durability wise, he survived a crash from ORBIT that resulted in a huge explosion with not even a scratch on him.

His healing factor speaks for itself.

Strength wise, his mane choked out and KOed a CL50-75 brick with ease (he actually took apart the Masters of Disaster all by himself).

If Creeper catches SM with his mane, the fight is over instantly.

SamZED
Pete's survived Phoenix Force mountain shattering explosion after a prolonged beating from two above-herald level characters, so lets not go high-end feats.
Spock has long razor sharp claws on each hand and sharp spider legs on his back, he can cut himself free, also he's so fast he most definitely won't have to.
Agreed about the healing factor.

zopzop
Originally posted by SamZED
Pete's survived Phoenix Force mountain shattering explosion after a prolonged beating from two above-herald level characters, so lets not go high-end feats.
Spock has long razor sharp claws on each hand and sharp spider legs on his back, he can cut himself free, also he's so fast he most definitely won't have to.
Agreed about the healing factor.
Survived? Yes, but he was in no shape to fight. He was totally phucked. Creeper survived unscathed from that orbital crash.

He's also reconstructed himself after being devoured by Eclipsed hyenas.

So yeah, Creeper's high ends sh|t all over Spiderman's.

SamZED
Originally posted by zopzop
Survived? Yes, but he was in no shape to fight. He was totally phucked. Creeper survived unscathed from that orbital crash.

He's also reconstructed himself after being devoured by Eclipsed hyenas.

So yeah, Creeper's high ends sh|t all over Spiderman's. He didn't withstand a beating from two class 100+ trans level character before the crash though.

Correct me if I'm wrong but afaik Creeper won't be able to fight if he's decapitated, not right away that is, which would count as a forum win. He's not going to shrug off Spock's punches either.

I'll agree with that when I see Creeper beat the livving sh!t out of heralds with his bare hands. Or take down A-list teams all by himself. That's more impressive than taking on three-four or even twenty class 70 C-listers in my book. Speed I'm not even going to go there.

SamZED
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Different forms, I thought? One was through a virus, the otheris like Deadman? Not too familiar with DCnU tbh.
For the record, Pete has feats of taking a barrage of machine gun fire to the chest and keeping on fighting.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by SamZED
Not too familiar with DCnU tbh.
For the record, Pete has feats of taking a barrage of machine gun fire to the chest and keeping on fighting.

Wait, is it Pete or SpOck that's fighting? Some of their feats shouldn't be allowed to cross, IMHO.

Physically, yes, they're the same, but mentally - SpOck is content to run away from a fight he thinks he cannot win, and return later when he's tooled up and ready. Pete will stay until the bitter end, which then gives rise to some of his higher end feats.

If you're using Pete, then obviously claws and some of his gadgets are out.

If you're using SpOck, then I will call into question the use of some of Pete's feats. Taking machine gun fire and fighting on, for example, wouldn't be SpOck's MO.

As for the original question you asked, about DCnU Creeper, he's now a demon who was originally trapped within Katana's sword, which Killer Croc broke. Now that he's free, he goes around creating tornadoes and possessing people (IIRC; let me check).

DarkSaint85
Ok, so Creeper prefers to ride bodies that are weak and powerful. Jack is chosen because he reeks of cowardice and egomania. SpOck DEFINITELY matches the egomania criteria, and possibly the cowardice one too:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/qwirtle/JusticeLeagueDark2011--FeaturingCreeper231-007_zps44c9e03e.jpg

And before you ask, no, he doesn't need to be dead to be possessed. Earlier in the story, he took a little kid.

As for what he can do, massive tornadoes:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/qwirtle/JusticeLeagueDark2011--FeaturingCreeper231-019_zps98a579fc.jpg

SamZED
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait, is it Pete or SpOck that's fighting? Some of their feats shouldn't be allowed to cross, IMHO.

Physically, yes, they're the same, but mentally - SpOck is content to run away from a fight he thinks he cannot win, and return later when he's tooled up and ready. Pete will stay until the bitter end, which then gives rise to some of his higher end feats.

If you're using Pete, then obviously claws and some of his gadgets are out.

If you're using SpOck, then I will call into question the use of some of Pete's feats. Taking machine gun fire and fighting on, for example, wouldn't be SpOck's MO.

As for the original question you asked, about DCnU Creeper, he's now a demon who was originally trapped within Katana's sword, which Killer Croc broke. Now that he's free, he goes around creating tornadoes and possessing people (IIRC; let me check). That is a good point. I'm going to use Ock for this fight because that's what the forum rules dictate. Clearly he doesn't have Peters heart but I wouldn't call him a coward either, he doesn't fear death, only failure. And he'd choose retreat over a pointless battle. If something important is at stake or he is challendged he'd attack a team of Avengers without givving it a second thought. So I see no reason for him to run away here. And while there's no on-pannel proof there's a good chance his costume would protect him from getting possessed. Carrion's only trick is possessing people (even the likes of Hyperion) and Spock fought him for hours following him everywhere and Carrion took turns possessing every hero of NY except for Spock himself.

On unrelated note, I really wish they didn't make Creeper a ghost-demon.

DarkSaint85
Same, and I don't like the new interpretation of chaos now. He's just turned into a douche.

Toss up whether the suit protects him, but based on its mystical nature (I'll post the scan later of what was needed to stop his possession) as opposed to Carrion's tech based nature, I'm inclined to say he could. Of course, there's also how nothing's been shown to hurt DCnU Creeper apart from mystical means (Soultaker sword, for example).

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by SamZED
And while there's no on-pannel proof there's a good chance his costume would protect him from getting possessed. Carrion's only trick is possessing people (even the likes of Hyperion) and Spock fought him for hours following him everywhere and Carrion took turns possessing every hero of NY except for Spock himself.


IIRC, SpOck prepped for him, and had a special gun, right? Which wouldn't be standard equipment, anyway.

Whereas, Creeper's possession can be stopped in the following scan:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/qwirtle/JusticeLeagueDark2011--FeaturingCreeper231-001_zps5cf45f79.jpg

So you would need someone A: to know that Creeper is now an oni, B: know the correct rituals and C: enact them correctly and in time, which would constitute prep.

Alias Stone
merge please

DarkSaint85
We all seem to be in agreement? Although based on the other thread, I wonder what the creeper movie is about..

Alias Stone
But didn't Spock fight against Spider Slayers attempted takeover or something like that

DarkSaint85
Using the mind transfer tech....which is again, technological in nature. SpOck defeated it by putting armour plating in his head...which I doubt would stop demonic possession.

jitay
But it's still a defense

DarkSaint85
One that's debatable would work in the first place, and given the differing natures of magic and tech in both Marvel and DC (for example, Reed acknowledging Doom as his superior, or Batman acknowledging his weakness in that subject) I think I have a strong case in saying it won't work.

The recent argument I can think of is Pym using tech to trap Loki, but that involved prep on his part. SpOck is no Pym.

Another way of thinking about it is, would the Japanese ritual of bean throwing have stopped Carrion?

jitay
Dunno but with that tech he's able to attack on the astral plane as we saw when he ousted Pete so I guess it has that

He was also able to use it on a being of pure energy/electricity to oust her from the city which she had taken over (NY)

DarkSaint85
Still completely different from demonic possession, though. Plus, its only one of his options. Still unsure of what would actually harm Creeper...Spock could web him up, he'd just break free. Or even if he doesn't, he could just jump bodies.

Its essentially Creeper's fight to lose.

jitay
Eh until we get more feats for the machine I guess you're right but it pants a solid victory 5-6/10

DarkSaint85
Besides, is the machine standard gear? Iirc he prepped for Smythe, and had to go back to his lab to deal with the girl....

jitay
I didn't know he prepped the machine for Smythe I know about the rest of the stiff but I'm not sure about that

jitay
Originally posted by Alias Stone
merge please

Hah I forgot about this

Golgo13
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Still completely different from demonic possession, though. Plus, its only one of his options. Still unsure of what would actually harm Creeper...Spock could web him up, he'd just break free. Or even if he doesn't, he could just jump bodies.

Its essentially Creeper's fight to lose.

Basically. Ogun would be a better fight now.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Golgo13
Basically. Ogun would be a better fight now.

Pretty much.

Mindset
Spiderman punches his head off and webs up his soul when he tries to jump bodies.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Mindset
Spiderman punches his head off and webs up his soul when he tries to jump bodies.

More like, he jumps your face.

Mindset
I'll jump my foot up your ass.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Mindset
I'll jump my foot up your ass.

...you haven't even bought me dinner.

Scrub.

Mindset
I gave you a one piece already, gecko.

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/hank-punch.gif

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Mindset
I gave you a one piece already, gecko.

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/hank-punch.gif

You gave me gecko?

He's shit. Uses teeth too much.

Mindset
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DarkSaint85
Latest Team up shows Spiderman's not as immune to sonics as we thought....

YFZ 350
Creeper should win.

VeganDiet
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Latest Team up shows Spiderman's not as immune to sonics as we thought....
May I ask where this occurred? Because I don't see anything like that in the latest SSTU.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by VeganDiet
May I ask where this occurred? Because I don't see anything like that in the latest SSTU.

I flat out lied, sorry.

I meant Superior Carnage.

SamZED
Contradicts earlier showings though. Tech can take HB's and Queen's sonic blast it should be able to handle Claw.

VeganDiet
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I flat out lied, sorry.

I meant Superior Carnage.
Yeah. Just now read that. He had some okay durability feats in there, though.

carver9
Originally posted by Mindset
I gave you a one piece already, gecko.

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/hank-punch.gif

laughing out loud laughing out loud I have been laughing at this post for hrs now. Hilarious.

SamZED
Originally posted by VeganDiet
Yeah. Just now read that. He had some okay durability feats in there, though. You should check latest Superior team up where he no sold Wrecker's crowbar and then bloodied his face with a punch.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
Basically. Ogun would be a better fight now.

No. Ogun is a spirit that body steal. He doesn't stand a chance against him.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
No. Ogun is a spirit that body steal. He doesn't stand a chance against him.

That's what Creeper does...

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
No. Ogun is a spirit that body steal. He doesn't stand a chance against him.

laughing out loud

jitay
Originally posted by SamZED
You should check latest Superior team up where he no sold Wrecker's crowbar and then bloodied his face with a punch.

that is ****ing beautiful

iceman24567
lol ..Creeper wins and Ogun would be a much better battle

VeganDiet
Originally posted by SamZED
You should check latest Superior team up where he no sold Wrecker's crowbar and then bloodied his face with a punch. Yeah, I remember that. Spidey really wracked up the durability feats this week.

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