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What are the best travelling speed feats under herald level category? Some of those which come into mind are

1. Kal-L and Kal-El taking SBP from somewhere near Oa(Sector 0) to the red sun of krypton9sector 2813). Upon calculating it comes around 19 quadrillion times lightspeed.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/toomuchforgls4.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup3.jpg

2. Nova going 7.43 trillions time lightspeed

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Nova2/novaspeed.jpg

3. Surfer going half million lightyears in seconds which makes him 1.6 trillion times lightspeed fast

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3076/silversurfervol3006us8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/281/silversurfervol3007nn1.jpg

So what other character can come close to these levels of travel speeds? No PC superman.

Meh.

Flash evacuating that Korean city.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Flash evacuating that Korean city.

Yup that's the fastest feat in comics, besides the PC era stuff.

3. Surfer going half million light years in seconds which makes him 1.6 trillion times light speed fast

By feats I thought that the Surfer at the very least is faster than Nova, and fast enough to break the time barrier. I vote for him.

Terrible maths going on, but:

http://www.4thletter.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/JLA89pg01.jpg

Flash racing himself on DC ONE MILLION saga

I don't think you can't get faster than that.

How fast would one have to be moving to go back millions of years into the past? Has anyone else ever done this under their own power, and not hooked up to a device?

Assuming he took all of them 2 at a time, that's 266,000 trips in total. at a distance of 70 miles (to and from the city), that's a distance of 18620,000 miles.

In 0.00001 x 10 to the power -3 seconds. So 18620000/0.00001x10^-3 is 1862000000000000 miles per second.

Or 6.703 x 10^18 miles per hour. Or about 10000000000 times the speed of light. Feel free to check my numbers lol.

The flash was in two places at once.

Once we start getting into "trillions of times" ftl its all relative at that point. No pun intended hehe.

Azrael 1M traveling from Pluto to Mars in a nanosecond:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_az6.jpg
According to a quick Google search, it is about 3,500,000,000 miles from Pluto to Mars on average. Azrael covered this distance in a nanosecond. Do the math.


Originally posted by abhilegend
1. Kal-L and Kal-El taking SBP from somewhere near Oa(Sector 0) to the red sun of krypton9sector 2813). Upon calculating it comes around 19 quadrillion times lightspeed.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/toomuchforgls4.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup3.jpg Considering no specifics were given regarding the amount of time it took them to travel that distance, I'm curious to know how you came up with such an exorbitant figure..?

h1 told him.

Originally posted by Galan007
Azrael 1M traveling from Pluto to Mars in a nanosecond:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_az6.jpg
According to a quick Google search, it is about 3,500,000,000 miles from Pluto to Mars on average. Azrael covered this distance in a nanosecond. Do the math.


That's somewhere around 18.7 trillion times the speed of light . Quite impressive .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
That's somewhere around 18.7 trillion times the speed of light . Quite impressive .

Can't be sure that his entire flight took 1 nanosecond, since by the time he begins his narration, he's already in motion an unspecified distance from Mars.



In the missing page between the two posted, Surfer seems to have entered some sort of hyperspace. Not sure if the OP is counting stuff like that as a traveling speed feat since it opens the door to teleporters and the like. But then, "traveling" speed need not mean only "flight" and "running."



And how long did that take? It seemed pretty quick, since Prime didn't fight back, but what kind of range are you using to estimate it?

Originally posted by Galan007
Considering no specifics were given regarding the amount of time it took them to travel that distance, I'm curious to know how you came up with such an exorbitant figure..? with prime saying they're not fast enough to send him into the speed force

That Flash scan is impressive.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What are the best travelling speed feats under herald level category? Some of those which come into mind are

1. Kal-L and Kal-El taking SBP from somewhere near Oa(Sector 0) to the red sun of krypton9sector 2813). Upon calculating it comes around 19 quadrillion times lightspeed.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/toomuchforgls4.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup3.jpg I'm curious how you get the distance they traveled. How many seconds did you use in your calculation?

I'm also curious here how you got the distance. I see the mention of 12 minutes is in the scan though.

I see you used that he traveled a half million light years in 10 seconds. Well this isn't quite true since the conversation took at least 20 seconds. I took a stopwatch while reading the panel in conversation speed. So about half your number seems best.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm curious how you get the distance they traveled. How many seconds did you use in your calculation?

I'm also curious here how you got the distance. I see the mention of 12 minutes is in the scan though.

I see you used that he traveled a half million light years in 10 seconds. Well this isn't quite true since the conversation took at least 20 seconds. I took a stopwatch while reading the panel in conversation speed. So about half your number seems best.

Where does the ten second count come from?

Like last thread, just vote for Supes, clowns.

http://tinypic.com/r/10dgncw/6
http://tinypic.com/r/2h4c4fk/6

This is one of the more quantifiable high-end speed feats in comics. You know about how great the distance is (just over 1 light year) and the equivalent of a starting gun courtesy of warlock.

Using deliberately low-ball estimates of Thanos' punching speed (trying only to put him around peak-human) and a generous assumption that his punch was already 25% completed before he was interrupted, I figured that Surfer was averaging over 40 billion x the speed of light--traveling over one light year in under a thousandth of a second.

Not bad from a standing start.

The Flash races himself up across Mercury (3032 miles radious) by jumping the time stream.

I think most feats are kind of "possible" but the Flash racing himself up and beating himself up is kind of impossible



http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/th_Flash1000000-04.jpghttp://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/th_Flash1000000-05.jpghttp://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/th_Flash1000000-06.jpghttp://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/th_Flash1000000-07.jpg

Originally posted by h1a8
I see you used that he traveled a half million light years in 10 seconds. Well this isn't quite true since the conversation took at least 20 seconds. I took a stopwatch while reading the panel in conversation speed. So about half your number seems best. umm, surfer was telling genis they were about to hit warp speed. there was no talking during that point

Originally posted by -Pr-
Where does the ten second count come from?

That's the only way he could get his answer from. He used 10 seconds.
But the conversation took at least 20 seconds. I used a stopwatch and read the conversation in natural speed.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
umm, surfer was telling genis they were about to hit warp speed. there was no talking during that point

Surfer was accelerating the whole time. It took time for him to reach warp speed. Thus the conservation should count since Surfer is still racing to get there.

Originally posted by Dream Stuff
http://tinypic.com/r/10dgncw/6
http://tinypic.com/r/2h4c4fk/6

This is one of the more quantifiable high-end speed feats in comics. You know about how great the distance is (just over 1 light year) and the equivalent of a starting gun courtesy of warlock.

Using deliberately low-ball estimates of Thanos' punching speed (trying only to put him around peak-human) and a generous assumption that his punch was already 25% completed before he was interrupted, I figured that Surfer was averaging over 40 billion x the speed of light--traveling over one light year in under a thousandth of a second.

Not bad from a standing start.

I would say it took 1 to 3 seconds for SS to get there. Thanos wasn't trying to use his full force on Cap. Cap had time to act (as shown in his facial expressions) when Thanos was moving.

lol. they were 500,000 light years away when he said that stuff, goes into warp speed, and in the next panel they reach their destination

Originally posted by h1a8
That's the only way he could get his answer from. He used 10 seconds.
But the conversation took at least 20 seconds. I used a stopwatch and read the conversation in natural speed. http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a170/RhymePhile/Weird%20stuff/LMAO.gif

Did you time yourself ten times, and average it out

Originally posted by h1a8
I would say it took 1 to 3 seconds for SS to get there. Thanos wasn't trying to use his full force on Cap. Cap had time to act (as shown in his facial expressions) when Thanos was moving.

Even holding back, it would not take anyone 1 to 3 seconds to throw a punch. Try it right now. It feels ridiculous, doesn't it?

I also don't see why an estimate for peak human punching speed would be considered Thanos going all out.

And Cap, a low-end bullet-timer, having time to react to a punch at peak human speed isn't unusual. Him having only time to make a slightly different facial expression indicates that the fist is moving much faster, but I didn't take that into account to avoid any more speculation than necessary.

Besides, Surfer's typical speed is around 1 light year per second, based on just the scans you'd see in the respect thread. That's him from a standing start, not particularly trying.

Originally posted by Dream Stuff
Even holding back, it would not take anyone 1 to 3 seconds to throw a punch. Try it right now. It feels ridiculous, doesn't it?

I also don't see why an estimate for peak human punching speed would be considered Thanos going all out.

And Cap, a low-end bullet-timer, having time to react to a punch at peak human speed isn't unusual. Him having only time to make a slightly different facial expression indicates that the fist is moving much faster, but I didn't take that into account to avoid any more speculation than necessary.

Besides, Surfer's typical speed is around 1 light year per second, based on just the scans you'd see in the respect thread. That's him from a standing start, not particularly trying.

Cap knew resistance was futile and that is why he allowed Thanos to punch without dodging it. Thanos cocked back as well.

Originally posted by h1a8
Cap knew resistance was futile and that is why he allowed Thanos to punch without dodging it. Thanos cocked back as well.

Cap gave up. That's your explanation. Sure.

Anyway, I accounted for the cocked back punch.

Originally posted by Galan007


Considering no specifics were given regarding the amount of time it took them to travel that distance, I'm curious to know how you came up with such an exorbitant figure..?


My best guess is:

Since OA is a planet in the center of the universe and the nearest Galaxy to Andromeda is about 2.52 million light years away from it, it will mean they have to fly AT LEAST that distance in comic time. That could be a starting point.

But like I said, I'm guessing in here.

This isnt anywhere near as great as the other examples, but I always dug this one of the Surfer scanning the entire planet in mere seconds.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7694/silversurferannual0508tc4.jpg

The Plutonian taking a bomb from groundside on Earth, to space in under the 4 seconds it had on the timer. He even had time to throw it away from itself.

Plutonian again, sensing a radio signal, reaching it in under a pico second, then outracing it back to it's source which was a pretty good distance away.

I have another one

Superman matching teleportation from the ionosphere to 2000 ft below ground. This means he had to dig a hole, while matching the JLA teleporters.

They are communicating via MMH, Flash is the only reacting to SM speed, well... because He is Flash.


http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/SUPER%20SPEED/th_jla03213MATCHESTELEPORTATION.jpg

anyone got the scan of Surfer mapping the universe whilst travelling at many times FTL?

Originally posted by h1a8
That's the only way he could get his answer from. He used 10 seconds.
But the conversation took at least 20 seconds. I used a stopwatch and read the conversation in natural speed.

what do you mean "used ten seconds". Was ten seconds stated in the comic?

Surfer beaing to fast for a human to comprehend.

Originally posted by Dream Stuff
http://tinypic.com/r/10dgncw/6
http://tinypic.com/r/2h4c4fk/6

This is one of the more quantifiable high-end speed feats in comics. You know about how great the distance is (just over 1 light year) and the equivalent of a starting gun courtesy of warlock.

Using deliberately low-ball estimates of Thanos' punching speed (trying only to put him around peak-human) and a generous assumption that his punch was already 25% completed before he was interrupted, I figured that Surfer was averaging over 40 billion x the speed of light--traveling over one light year in under a thousandth of a second.

Not bad from a standing start.

This is INSANE! This shit takes the cake!

QS >>> Phoenix-Frost is the best non-Surfer speed feat I can think of.

Originally posted by -Pr-
what do you mean "used ten seconds". Was ten seconds stated in the comic? lol you are not understanding. Clear your mind.

I wanted to know where he got his numbers from. I reverse engineered the relevant equations and found out HE USED (not me) 10 seconds for the Time in the equation Speed=Distance/Time to make his calculations. I never agreed on his 10 seconds and neither does the comic state 10 seconds.
IMO, the conversation should have taken at least 20 seconds.

In other words, I have no idea where he got the 10 seconds from.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
This is INSANE! This shit takes the cake!

Not really, the scene took about 1-3 seconds. Not 25% of a thousandth of a second.

http://imageshack.us/f/90/silversurfer199612206jx3.jpg/

Originally posted by Galan007
Azrael 1M traveling from Pluto to Mars in a nanosecond:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_az6.jpg
According to a quick Google search, it is about 3,500,000,000 miles from Pluto to Mars on average. Azrael covered this distance in a nanosecond. Do the math.


Considering no specifics were given regarding the amount of time it took them to travel that distance, I'm curious to know how you came up with such an exorbitant figure..?


This is the best one I have seen so far.

Originally posted by h1a8
lol you are not understanding. Clear your mind.

I wanted to know where he got his numbers from. I reverse engineered the relevant equations and found out HE USED (not me) 10 seconds for the Time in the equation Speed=Distance/Time to make his calculations. I never agreed on his 10 seconds and neither does the comic state 10 seconds.
IMO, the conversation should have taken at least 20 seconds.

In other words, I have no idea where he got the 10 seconds from.

I was just waiting for you to explain.

No one is as fast as the Flash. Not even himself.

The Glimmer, who ran perpendicular to time.

Originally posted by h1a8
Not really, the scene took about 1-3 seconds. Not 25% of a thousandth of a second.

If it took you more than one second to land a punch, than you must be the worst fighter ever, dude. Or Stephan Hawking.

Originally posted by Galan007
Considering no specifics were given regarding the amount of time it took them to travel that distance, I'm curious to know how you came up with such an exorbitant figure..?

I just took a rough estimation of the average distance between Oa(sector 0) and Krypton(sector 2813) based upon the fact that the guardians separated entire universe into 3600 sectors and I assumed the entire scene happened in 1 minute as a safe bet.

Originally posted by Dream Stuff
And how long did that take? It seemed pretty quick, since Prime didn't fight back, but what kind of range are you using to estimate it?

I assumed this entire scene happened in one minute, although it seemed only moments.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
with prime saying they're not fast enough to send him into the speed force

And? You are not saying that they were going sub-light speeds to cross over 3/4th distance of the universe, are you? People like Johnny quick and Max mercury whose maximum speeds were nowhere near lightspeed have entered into speed force. Its the un-official rule over there in DC that unless you are a member of flash family you can't enter into the speed force.

Originally posted by Harbinger
Like last thread, just vote for Supes, clowns.

This is not a contest.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
No one is as fast as the Flash. Not even himself. Doom is faster.

And how do you know 10 seconds? Seems like if you read the narrative, it happened in a short moment. Conversation ended as he entered warp speed and started again once they hit the destination. As far as I can tell, it can be argued that the whole thing took .01 of a second as much as it can be argued that it took 10 seconds. Tho 10 seconds would be plenty time to "comprehend the escoteric beauty of the universe blah blah..." so that might not be all that arguable either...

Seems silly to start timing yourself talking to yourself without first determining if there was even a conversation that happened mid-travel to begin with.

But the question stands tho. Doesn't Surfer entering a form of hyperspace disqualify the feat?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I just took a rough estimation of the average distance between Oa(sector 0) and Krypton(sector 2813) based upon the fact that the guardians separated entire universe into 3600 sectors and I assumed the entire scene happened in 1 minute as a safe bet. mmm

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its the un-official rule over there in DC that unless you are a member of flash family you can't enter into the speed force. *cough*Dianna did it easily*cough*

Originally posted by CosmicComet
No one is as fast as the Flash. Not even himself. This. And its proven.

Originally posted by Galan007
mmm

*cough*Dianna did it easily*cough*
She was just on the outer limit of the speed force, she never entered it.

She was in the SF, iirc.

Originally posted by Galan007
She was in the SF, iirc.
Nope, read it again. She was on the outer limit and discouraged jesse from entering SF.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's the only way he could get his answer from. He used 10 seconds.
But the conversation took at least 20 seconds. I used a stopwatch and read the conversation in natural speed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And? You are not saying that they were going sub-light speeds to cross over 3/4th distance of the universe, are you? People like Johnny quick and Max mercury whose maximum speeds were nowhere near lightspeed have entered into speed force. Its the un-official rule over there in DC that unless you are a member of flash family you can't enter into the speed force. Just remembered that that Flashes didn't drop Prime in the speed force anyway...

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope, read it again. She was on the outer limit and discouraged jesse from entering SF. She still breached the 'walls' of the SF, without having a direct connection to the SF. Huge.

Originally posted by Galan007
Just remembered that that Flashes didn't drop Prime in the speed force anyway...

She still breached the 'walls' of the SF, without having a direct connection to the SF. Huge.
Yeah, its PIS since at the time reaching SF was hard for even wally and her on panel official speed was mach three.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, its PIS since at the time reaching SF was hard for even wally and her on panel official speed was mach three.

You're PIS. sneer

Did Thor went FTL thought universe at one time?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, its PIS since at the time reaching SF was hard for even wally and her on panel official speed was mach three. Didn't stop you from using that feat in your BZ.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Did Thor went FTL thought universe at one time?

His highest quantifiable feat was going three times the speed of light back in the day. Of course, there was also the instance was Thor threw Mjolnir to the other side of the galaxy and it returned within 60 seconds and the various instances he was able to keep up traveling wise with heralds such as Silver Surfer and Firelord.

If I had to bet money, I'd say Thor can travel much faster than 3x lightspeed, which was probably a low end estimation by Lee/Kirby when it was stated.

Originally posted by h1a8
Not really, the scene took about 1-3 seconds. Not 25% of a thousandth of a second.

Yeah, you have no reason at all to believe that.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Did Thor went FTL thought universe at one time?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
His highest quantifiable feat was going three times the speed of light back in the day. Of course, there was also the instance was Thor threw Mjolnir to the other side of the galaxy and it returned within 60 seconds and the various instances he was able to keep up traveling wise with heralds such as Silver Surfer and Firelord.

If I had to bet money, I'd say Thor can travel much faster than 3x lightspeed, which was probably a low end estimation by Lee/Kirby when it was stated.

In Astonishing Thor mini, he overtook Ego who was moving through hyperspace(ftl). Thor actually intercepted him first, but Stranger punted him out into orbit. After being punted, he recovers and overtakes him again by a good margin to find out Ego's destination.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/th_AST02-004.jpghttp://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/th_AST02-006.jpghttp://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/th_AST02-007.jpghttp://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/th_AST02-008.jpg

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
In Astonishing Thor mini, he overtook Ego who was moving through hyperspace(ftl). Thor actually intercepted him first, but Stranger punted him out into orbit. After being punted, he recovers and overtakes him again by a good margin to find out Ego's destination.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/th_AST02-004.jpghttp://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/th_AST02-006.jpghttp://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/th_AST02-007.jpghttp://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/th_AST02-008.jpg

Beat me to it lol. The best feats are when someone catches up to someone who's hauling ass imo.

Originally posted by dmills
Beat me to it lol. The best feats are when someone catches up to someone who's hauling ass imo.

Proof that Ego was moving through hyperspace. Heimdall says it. If Heimdall says someone is moving in hyperspace, he will know. Everyone knows about his senses.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/th_11-30-100110copy-1.jpg

Thor says it again.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/th_11-30-100118copy-1.jpg

Good catch. Didn't even think about that one.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Did Thor went FTL thought universe at one time?

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/i-can-has-cheezburger.jpg

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Proof that Ego was moving through hyperspace. Heimdall says it. If Heimdall says someone is moving in hyperspace, he will know. Everyone knows about his senses.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/th_11-30-100110copy-1.jpg

Thor says it again.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Thor%20Respect/th_11-30-100118copy-1.jpg

Which issue is that from ? Last I remember , the Black Galaxy got metamorphosized into the Blue Celestial .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Which issue is that from ? Last I remember , the Black Galaxy got metamorphosized into the Blue Celestial .

Anstoingh Thor limited series!!

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Which issue is that from ? Last I remember , the Black Galaxy got metamorphosized into the Blue Celestial . Those particular scans are from Astonishing Thor #1.

Astonishing Thor was an excellent 5 issue mini, btw.

Cosmic Thor is pretty sweet.

Originally posted by Galan007
Those particular scans are from Astonishing Thor #1.

Astonishing Thor was an excellent 5 issue mini, btw.

Wihich in Marvel speak means we'll never see the likes of it again lol.

Originally posted by Galan007
Those particular scans are from Astonishing Thor #1.

Astonishing Thor was an excellent 5 issue mini, btw.
So , is it canon ? If it is , does it retcon the Blue Celestial event ?

Originally posted by Galan007

Considering no specifics were given regarding the amount of time it took them to travel that distance, I'm curious to know how you came up with such an exorbitant figure..?

Worse yet, apparently Oa orbits that Red Sun.

1st panel.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup3.jpg

Making the entire quadrant value entirely invalid.

Originally posted by "Id"
Worse yet, apparently Oa orbits that Red Sun.

1st panel.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup3.jpg

Making the entire quadrant value entirely invalid.



That's Mogo.

Originally posted by "Id"
Worse yet, apparently Oa orbits that Red Sun.

1st panel.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup3.jpg

Making the entire quadrant value entirely invalid.



You right. But that makes no sense. Oa is nowhere near where Krypton used to be.
Did the writer F that up?

Originally posted by "Id"
Worse yet, apparently Oa orbits that Red Sun.

1st panel.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup3.jpg

Making the entire quadrant value entirely invalid.


Fail much?

*Bump*

Thor and Surfer.

Superman punks both Thor and surfer in this. The only time surfer was about to travel across universe, it was stated that it would take him billions of years and even then he wouldn't reach half the distance. Don't make me laugh @ mention of Thor.

lol Oa.

I'm drunk enough to deal with what will come from this thread.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm drunk enough to deal with what will come from this thread.
At noon? Cheers. haermm

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
*Bump*
Originally posted by carver9
Thor and Surfer.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman punks both Thor and surfer in this. The only time surfer was about to travel across universe, it was stated that it would take him billions of years and even then he wouldn't reach half the distance. Don't make me laugh @ mention of Thor.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm drunk enough to deal with what will come from this thread.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/popcorn_yes.gif

next thread:

which street levelers are actually FTL because of laser dodging feats?

Originally posted by abhilegend
What are the best travelling speed feats under herald level category? Some of those which come into mind are

1. Kal-L and Kal-El taking SBP from somewhere near Oa(Sector 0) to the red sun of krypton9sector 2813). Upon calculating it comes around 19 quadrillion times lightspeed.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/toomuchforgls4.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup3.jpg

2. Nova going 7.43 trillions time lightspeed

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Nova2/novaspeed.jpg

3. Surfer going half million lightyears in seconds which makes him 1.6 trillion times lightspeed fast

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3076/silversurfervol3006us8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/281/silversurfervol3007nn1.jpg

So what other character can come close to these levels of travel speeds? No PC superman. Shut up...19 quadrillion. I may close this thread and dur you just for that. mmm

Originally posted by Oliver North
next thread:

which street levelers are actually FTL because of laser dodging feats?
All of them.

young!Thor riding a space shark.

Originally posted by Badabing
Shut up...19 quadrillion. I may close this thread and dur you just for that. mmm
Going to personally nitpick this.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I just took a rough estimation of the average distance between Oa(sector 0) and Krypton(sector 2813) based upon the fact that the guardians separated entire universe into 3600 sectors and I assumed the entire scene happened in 1 minute as a safe bet.
Going by what Abhi says here^ and Originally posted by abhilegend
I assumed this entire scene happened in one minute, although it seemed only moments.



And? You are not saying that they were going sub-light speeds to cross over 3/4th distance of the universe, are you?
Here... ^

Abhi seems to have assumed the sectors were all arranged in a line from 0 to 3600, and that Supes crossed all of the sectors on the way to Krypton. This doesn't work because

1. Oa, and sector 0, are at the center of the universe.
2. The sectors would not be arranged linearly, but most likely in three dimensions. I've not seen any map of them but this seems a safe bet because otherwise "wat"

That's my two cents.

Originally posted by NemeBro
young!Thor riding a space shark.
Do not piggy back Thor on a space shark feat. Crossing many light years in what could have been less than a minute is the feat of the shark. To do so while carrying Thor is only more impressive, as the vikings required many men just to move Thor when he fell in the snow in Russia.

Space Sharks >

The calculations on this thread are hilarious. Surfer takes my vote as the fastest, with Flash, Thor, Superman and the like all up there as well.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What are the best travelling speed feats under herald level category? Some of those which come into mind are

1. Kal-L and Kal-El taking SBP from somewhere near Oa(Sector 0) to the red sun of krypton9sector 2813). Upon calculating it comes around 19 quadrillion times lightspeed.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/toomuchforgls4.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup3.jpg

.

Wait how did you come up with that number?

This is how sectors are divided btw based on a google search:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090809020920/marvel_dc/images/d/d1/Space_Sectors_01.jpg

Also it should be noted that not the entire Universe is charted and part of Guardian space.

Also, Surfer's "feat" is around 15.8 trillion times lightspeed divided by how much time it took. Based on the narration (and not h1's asinine "10 second conversation rule", it didn't take 10 seconds.

How did you come up with Nova's 7.6 trillion?

Wait, based on: "Each sector is a triangular wedge and points to Oa" and "A Green Lantern is still in their sector when on Oa", Superman might not have travelled much at all....

Any response to this Abhi?

Thats why I hate cosmic vs threads.. Some fcuked up calculations, numbers and scientific terms...

Wolverine just stabs things....

Originally posted by SamZED
Thats why I hate cosmic vs threads.. Some fcuked up calculations, numbers and scientific terms...

Wolverine just stabs things....

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Also, Surfer's "feat" is around 15.8 trillion times lightspeed divided by how much time it took. Based on the narration (and not h1's asinine "10 second conversation rule", it didn't take 10 seconds.

How did you come up with Nova's 7.6 trillion?

Wait, based on: "Each sector is a triangular wedge and points to Oa" and "A Green Lantern is still in their sector when on Oa", Superman might not have travelled much at all....

Any response to this Abhi?

Where and when did I use 10 seconds?

Originally posted by h1a8
Where and when did I use 10 seconds?

Abhi is using 10 seconds. You introduced the "conversation rule". You actually wanted to use 20 seconds which is twice as asinine but I wanted to give you a little credit.

Originally posted by h1a8
I see you used that he traveled a half million light years in 10 seconds. Well this isn't quite true since the conversation took at least 20 seconds. I took a stopwatch while reading the panel in conversation speed. So about half your number seems best.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Abhi is using 10 seconds. You introduced the "conversation rule". You actually wanted to use 20 seconds which is twice as asinine but I wanted to give you a little credit.

Well I don't remember. But if I said I took a stopwatch then believe me I did. I did this in order to not report false information. I don't want to be shown up now.
Something happening during a conversation can be quantified very accurately.

Wolverine once said 8 sentences in mid leap. Just saying.. not how it works in comics...

Originally posted by SamZED
Thats why I hate cosmic vs threads.. Some fcuked up calculations, numbers and scientific terms...
Too bad that this isn't a cosmic vs thread.

Originally posted by SamZED
Wolverine once said 8 sentences in mid leap. Just saying.. not how it works in comics... prove it

Originally posted by h1a8
Well I don't remember. But if I said I took a stopwatch then believe me I did. I did this in order to not report false information. I don't want to be shown up now.
Something happening during a conversation can be quantified very accurately.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3076/silversurfervol3006us8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/281/silversurfervol3007nn1.jpg

Except the conversation happened BEFORE they traveled. W/c makes your entire gesture of "accuracy" entirely pointless and seems to point out to you not reading/understanding the scans properly before coming up with your crazy theories (not the first time).

Where did the indication that they were near Oa come from? Then there's the part where the GL's knew the plan and let the Superman's go, and everyone caught up with them shortly after... including Martian Manhunter. Martian Manhunter is in the quadrillions of times the speed of light category?

Then there's this:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/InfiniteCrisis0710.jpg

And going by sectors, Earth's sector is 2814, and Krypton's sector is 2813. So according to the previous math used, they traveled a sector. In the then, and now Non canon Birthright series Krypton is 2.2 million light years away. In NuDC it's 27 lightyears away.
And considering the sector that was previously clung to, and Birthright being non canon, it seems the current location was the one kind of being used back then. And they already traveled quite a distance before the Supermen attacked.

Or, the most likely one is that Johns didn't give a shit about the length.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3076/silversurfervol3006us8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/281/silversurfervol3007nn1.jpg

Except the conversation happened BEFORE they traveled. W/c makes your entire gesture of "accuracy" entirely pointless and seems to point out to you not reading/understanding the scans properly before coming up with your crazy theories (not the first time).

They were traveling BEFORE they were talking. Listen to him tell Surfer to slow down and Surfer is saying time is of the essence.

are you implying they traveled the majority of the trip prior to hitting warp speed even though that's when their position from their desired destination is stated?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
are you implying they traveled the majority of the trip prior to hitting warp speed even though that's when their position from their desired destination is stated?

No! That it took a long time just to reach ftl speeds. Or 15-20 seconds for the entire trip I guess. I don't remember what I was arguing to be honest. It was one of those though.

Originally posted by h1a8
They were traveling BEFORE they were talking. Listen to him tell Surfer to slow down and Surfer is saying time is of the essence.

Your evidence:

"Sheesh! Slow down, willya Surfer. I'm still weak from Jump-starting you"

My evidence:

"Hold on tight, we're about to enter warp speed"

The only thing your "evidence" proves is that they were traveling "fast" and generating momentum that makes it hard to hold on relative to Mar-vell's weakened grip. Meaning they could be traveling at sub light for all we know.

Mine proves that the point where they accelerated to the speed needed to cover the distance they travelled (w/c narration even goes ahead and further supports with the statement: "galaxies streak past them in a blur" "But before the minds of these two cosmic powers have a chance to comprehend..." meaning this all happened w/in a very short period of time and not while they're having a conversation) happened AFTER the conversation as Surfer stated that they were ABOUT TO enter said speed.

Stop trying to save face. You read the scan wrong (again), accept it and move on.

Originally posted by h1a8
No! That it took a long time just to reach ftl speeds. Or 15-20 seconds for the entire trip I guess. I don't remember what I was arguing to be honest. It was one of those though. the only possibility is the latter.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Where did the indication that they were near Oa come from? Then there's the part where the GL's knew the plan and let the Superman's go, and everyone caught up with them shortly after... including Martian Manhunter. Martian Manhunter is in the quadrillions of times the speed of light category?

Then there's this:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/InfiniteCrisis0710.jpg

And going by sectors, Earth's sector is 2814, and Krypton's sector is 2813. So according to the previous math used, they traveled a sector. In the then, and now Non canon Birthright series Krypton is 2.2 million light years away. In NuDC it's 27 lightyears away.
And considering the sector that was previously clung to, and Birthright being non canon, it seems the current location was the one kind of being used back then. And they already traveled quite a distance before the Supermen attacked.

Or, the most likely one is that Johns didn't give a shit about the length.

Pretty much that. John's really wasn't giving a shit and even if we analyze the feat, it's nowhere near the numbers Abhil came up with (Seriously, how the hell do you jump to that number?).

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wait how did you come up with that number?

This is how sectors are divided btw based on a google search:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090809020920/marvel_dc/images/d/d1/Space_Sectors_01.jpg

Also it should be noted that not the entire Universe is charted and part of Guardian space.
Based upon the fact that they traveled to sector 2813 from near sector 0. We can measure up the distance as by the estimation that the visible universe was divided in 3600 sectors. I doubt Johns was using that map when he was writing that scene. Only vega star system isn't charted and that's nothing compared to the rest of the universe.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Where did the indication that they were near Oa come from? Then there's the part where the GL's knew the plan and let the Superman's go, and everyone caught up with them shortly after... including Martian Manhunter. Martian Manhunter is in the quadrillions of times the speed of light category?

Then there's this:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/InfiniteCrisis0710.jpg

And going by sectors, Earth's sector is 2814, and Krypton's sector is 2813. So according to the previous math used, they traveled a sector. In the then, and now Non canon Birthright series Krypton is 2.2 million light years away. In NuDC it's 27 lightyears away.
And considering the sector that was previously clung to, and Birthright being non canon, it seems the current location was the one kind of being used back then. And they already traveled quite a distance before the Supermen attacked.

Or, the most likely one is that Johns didn't give a shit about the length.

The fact that the GLs formed their wall near Oa. Why would they make their stand in the middle of nowhere or near earth for that matter?

What was the point of posting that scan? GLs and J'onn both knew of the plans of SBP.

J'onn has gone lightyears before. I don't think pointing out that J'onn was there to invalidate the feat is laughable.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/10/103208/2632832-75.jpg


Also lawlz at your lowballing.

Johns clearly gave attention to the distance as he had Supermen going through the red sun and GLs lagging behind.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Based upon the fact that they traveled to sector 2813 from near sector 0. We can measure up the distance as by the estimation that the visible universe was divided in 3600 sectors. I doubt Johns was using that map when he was writing that scene. Only vega star system isn't charted and that's nothing compared to the rest of the universe.

Well do you have on-panel evidence that points out to the distance? Outside of creating your own speculation on what kind of map Johns used when writing the story I mean how do you even calculate the distance now?

Originally posted by abhilegend
The fact that the GLs formed their wall near Oa. Why would they make their stand in the middle of nowhere or near earth for that matter?

Johns clearly gave attention to the distance as he had Supermen going through the red sun and GLs lagging behind.

What exactly was the distance then? And how did you extract it from your scans?

Ppl aren't trying to lowball, it's just that the scans you provided gives very little proof of your Quadrillions times lightspeed claim.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Well do you have on-panel evidence that points out to the distance? Outside of creating your own speculation on what kind of map Johns used when writing the story I mean how do you even calculate the distance now?



What exactly was the distance then? And how did you extract it from your scans?

Ppl aren't trying to lowball, it's just that the scans you provided gives very little proof of your Quadrillions times lightspeed claim.
It was just the matter of dividing the radius of known universe with the known numbers of sectors i.e 3600 and multiplying with the sector number of krypton i.e. 2813. I already said that it was a rough estimate. But when people like bran throw meaningless scans and try to act like that proved something, its clearly lowballing. I mean what was the point of the scan? Also why would GLs from across the universe would make their last stand around nowhere and not near Oa where they could protect it better?

Bran is the king of rebutting D.C. feats. Yet has problems when others do it against Marvel feats.

So we're of the opinion that they were near Oa based on no proof at all? I don't follow.

Even if they were, the scan Rage showed, proves it doesn't matter, as Earth sector is right beside the Krypton sector and they're all pointing towards Oa.

Originally posted by h1a8
Bran is the king of rebutting D.C. feats. Yet has problems when others do it against Marvel feats. reported

More typical misrepresentation from the usual suspects....smh.
Anyhow, Surfer>Superman>Thor

Originally posted by abhilegend
The fact that the GLs formed their wall near Oa. Prove this statement.

Originally posted by h1a8
prove it Prove what? That Wooverine said like 8 sentences in mid leap? He did. Dont believe me fine by me. Frankly don't care enough to look for the scan. Happened during a fight with Deadpool, search for it you want. Heck happens all the time, going by that logic characters have entire conversations while swinging a sword once. Still, not how it works in comics.

H1, shut up. Seriously, you lowball characters way too much to have any leg to stand on when it comes to accusing others.

Also, gauging how close the "wall" was to Oa is tricky at best. I don't really think that the feat is quantifiable, but at the very least we can assume that they were going well above light speed due to how ridiculously fast they were going.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Also, gauging how close the "wall" was to Oa is tricky at best. I don't really think that the feat is quantifiable, but at the very least we can assume that they were going well above light speed due to how ridiculously fast they were going.

I agree with this.



It's easily above light speed. It's easily many many many many times light speed.

But quantifying it at 19 quadrillion times lightspeed? Well, I'll need to more evidence on-panel before I can swallow that.

Azrael 1M.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Your evidence:

"Sheesh! Slow down, willya Surfer. I'm still weak from Jump-starting you"

My evidence:

"Hold on tight, we're about to enter warp speed"

The only thing your "evidence" proves is that they were traveling "fast" and generating momentum that makes it hard to hold on relative to Mar-vell's weakened grip. Meaning they could be traveling at sub light for all we know.

Mine proves that the point where they accelerated to the speed needed to cover the distance they travelled (w/c narration even goes ahead and further supports with the statement: "galaxies streak past them in a blur" "But before the minds of these two cosmic powers have a chance to comprehend..." meaning this all happened w/in a very short period of time and not while they're having a conversation) happened AFTER the conversation as Surfer stated that they were ABOUT TO enter said speed.

Stop trying to save face. You read the scan wrong (again), accept it and move on.

Too much typing for a simple argument.
My point is that it took surfer a long time to hit ftl speeds. once he hit those speeds then I don't care. he can travel a bazillion times the speed of light for all I care.

Now I'm not saying that it normally takes Surfer this long to reach light speeds but rather using that feat isn't good. A much better feat is the IG feat.

Originally posted by h1a8
Too much typing for a simple argument.

My point is that it took surfer a long time to hit ftl speeds. once he hit those speeds then I don't care. he can travel a bazillion times the speed of light for all I care.

You have no basis (read: none) for your ass-umption other than your own little hope that somehow it took Surfer 20 seconds to reach warp speed even though absolutely nothing in the comic supports your little theory.

So yeah, your "point" doesn't exist outside your own biased mind.

Now you can think whatever you want, but I'll just let other people decide based on the merits of our arguments w/c is right and wrong.

Nice attempt at backtracking/changing your argument tho.

"Surfer took 20 seconds to travel cuz of the conversation."

"No, no, I meant it took him a long time to hit FTL speeds!"



Originally posted by h1a8
Now I'm not saying that it normally takes Surfer this long to reach light speeds but rather using that feat isn't good. A much better feat is the IG feat.

Says you. Thankfully, you have zero credibility.

Top this surfer and thor, 1 billion lightyears before hawkman an hawkwoman said a few words.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_ActionComics588-20.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_ActionComics588-21.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_ActionComics588-22.jpg

Half a million lightyeras? Pfft.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Top this surfer and thor, 1 billion lightyears before hawkman an hawkwoman said a few words.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_ActionComics588-20.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_ActionComics588-21.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_ActionComics588-22.jpg

Half a million lightyeras? Pfft.

Mind explaining what exactly happened here and what the travel "feat" was? I don't get it...

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Mind explaining what exactly happened here and what the travel "feat" was? I don't get it...
Hawkman and Hawkwoman used a device on a fleet which forced their hyperdrives to start and pull them to one billion lightyears from earth. Superman was caught in this too and his hyperspeed took him to a billion lightyears away from earth in a very short amount of time as you can see.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Top this surfer and thor, 1 billion lightyears before hawkman an hawkwoman said a few words.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_ActionComics588-20.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_ActionComics588-21.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_ActionComics588-22.jpg

Half a million lightyeras? Pfft.

Hold on a second.

Superman was blown lightyears away (and knocked out cold) by the Thanagarian engines.

How is this a travelling speed feat?

It seems to be a durability feat for Superman.

Originally posted by deathlife
Hold on a second.

Superman was blown lightyears away (and knocked out cold) by the Thanagarian engines.

How is this a travelling speed feat?

It seems to be a durability feat for Superman.

That's what it looked like to me too.

Originally posted by deathlife
Hold on a second.

Superman was blown lightyears away (and knocked out cold) by the Thanagarian engines.

How is this a travelling speed feat?

It seems to be a durability feat for Superman.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hawkman and Hawkwoman used a device on a fleet which forced their hyperdrives to start and pull them to one billion lightyears from earth. Superman was caught in this too and his hyperspeed took him to a billion lightyears away from earth in a very short amount of time as you can see.

I kinda read it differently..

"Do we dare risk that? We don't have precise control of the auto-control. We could be caught in the overload effect ourselves."

"It worked! We're still in the Solar System"

"We're headed straight for the sun!"

Makes me think that it went this way: they used a special setting on their hyperdrive to fling the enemy fleet a billion light years away but lucked out and managed to stay within the solar system. The effect didn't affect Superman who didn't have a hyper drive but KOd him making him unable to help them as they fell to the sun.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I kinda read it differently..

"Do we dare risk that? We don't have precise control of the auto-control. We could be caught in the overload effect ourselves."

"It worked! We're still in the Solar System"

"We're headed straight for the sun!"

Makes me think that it went this way: they used a special setting on their hyperdrive to fling the enemy fleet a billion light years away but lucked out and managed to stay within the solar system. The effect didn't affect Superman who didn't have a hyper drive but KOd him making him unable to help them as they fell to the sun.
Superman was flung away as seen in the next comic.

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16054434_Action_Comics_589_-_02.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16054435_Action_Comics_589_-_03.jpg

Its not debatable.

hmm, so apparently, Hawkman/Hawkgirl didn't get blown away but Superman did (the cliffhanger art was a bit vague)?

Still don't see how it's a traveling "feat", tho. Mind posting the rest of the scene/comic or at least point us to where we can find it so we can see for ourselves?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
hmm, so apparently, Hawkman/Hawkgirl didn't get blown away but Superman did (the cliffhanger art was a bit vague)?

Still don't see how it's a traveling "feat", tho. Mind posting the rest of the scene/comic or at least point us to where we can find it so we can see for ourselves?
Because they didn't get hit by the overlord effect as it was stated while superman was affected and he was flung across the universe a billion lightyears away. How's that not a travel feat since the overlord effect only affected hyperspeed of those it affected and forced them to jump a billion lightyears away? That was the whole scene. Why are you nitpicking so much?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because they didn't get hit by the overlord effect as it was stated while superman was affected and he was flung across the universe a billion lightyears away. How's that not a travel feat since the overlord effect only affected hyperspeed of those it affected and forced them to jump a billion lightyears away? That was the whole scene. Why are you nitpicking so much?

Dude, how am I nitpicking? I just feel like I need more context explaining the scene as a lot of it is kinda vague.

I mean, Superman wasn't even using his own power, most ppl would think he was obviously flung by the overload effect as we can't explain what possible reason he would have to fly that far away from Earth (while KOd at that)? So I find it hard to actually accept this as an actual travelling "feat".

Tried looking for it, and the only thing I found on it was:

http://www.comicvine.com/action-comics-589-green-on-green/4000-119277/

http://www.comixology.com/Action-Comics-1938-2011-589/digital-comic/DIG004769

Arisia finds Superman 400,000 light years from Earth--just in time to team up with the Green Lantern Corps to stop a mighty foe!

"Superman & The Green Lantern Corps"

That is why I would like more pages on 1) why we was tossed/flung in the first place when he wasn't supposed to be affected by the overload effect? 2) how far he was really tossed as comicvine and comixology synopsis of the issue seems to say 400k light years.

I'm willing to accept your interpretation as long as more pages are provided that explains it, but as of now, too much context has been left out for me to even consider this as anything but "Superman was tossed away by the overload effect" w/c isn't really a travel "feat" as that's what it looks like.

Friend had a copy of the issue, he took some pics:

http://i.imgur.com/p2kVpTr.jpg

"Deep space. Four hundred thousand light years from the planet earth."

http://i.imgur.com/hy93c8j.jpg

"So, I was caught in the space warp, too"

Kinda throws a little bit of doubt at the "feat" itself....

Plus you got the distances wrong. It's 400k light years like the synopsis says.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's the only way he could get his answer from. He used 10 seconds.
But the conversation took at least 20 seconds. I used a stopwatch and read the conversation in natural speed.

This is awesome!

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Dude, how am I nitpicking? I just feel like I need more context explaining the scene as a lot of it is kinda vague.

I mean, Superman wasn't even using his own power, most ppl would think he was obviously flung by the overload effect as we can't explain what possible reason he would have to fly that far away from Earth (while KOd at that)? So I find it hard to actually accept this as an actual travelling "feat".

Tried looking for it, and the only thing I found on it was:

http://www.comicvine.com/action-comics-589-green-on-green/4000-119277/

http://www.comixology.com/Action-Comics-1938-2011-589/digital-comic/DIG004769

Arisia finds Superman 400,000 light years from Earth--just in time to team up with the Green Lantern Corps to stop a mighty foe!

"Superman & The Green Lantern Corps"

That is why I would like more pages on 1) why we was tossed/flung in the first place when he wasn't supposed to be affected by the overload effect? 2) how far he was really tossed as comicvine and comixology synopsis of the issue seems to say 400k light years.

I'm willing to accept your interpretation as long as more pages are provided that explains it, but as of now, too much context has been left out for me to even consider this as anything but "Superman was tossed away by the overload effect" w/c isn't really a travel "feat" as that's what it looks like.
As per the overlord effect says, he was flung to the deep space as his own hyperspeed was flung into the deep space. He was affected because he was capable of hyperspeed too, he just didn't know about it back then and neither did hawkman or hawkwoman. The overlord effect didn't produce a space warp, it stimulated the already present hyperspeed of a machine or living being. He was KOED because hyperspace had that affect on him under byrne.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0015.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0017.jpgOriginally posted by Nibedicus
Friend had a copy of the issue, he took some pics:

http://i.imgur.com/p2kVpTr.jpg

"Deep space. Four hundred thousand light years from the planet earth."

http://i.imgur.com/hy93c8j.jpg

"So, I was caught in the space warp, too"

Kinda throws a little bit of doubt at the "feat" itself....

Plus you got the distances wrong. It's 400k light years like the synopsis says.

What your friend failed to mention that it was a second jump by overlord drive which brought superman there.

Arisia feels overlord drive

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16055590_Action_Comics_589_-_01.jpg

Katma Tui explained it as overlord drive being used again.

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16055592_Action_Comics_589_-_06.jpg

So superman jumped a billion lightyears and then 400k lightyears from earth. Its an even bigger feat than I thought. Also superman was caught in no space warp as no warp was opened there.

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0015.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/sup_tes__0017.jpg


Before I provide my reply, please provide title and issue number of the above scans and how it relates to the "feat"? Cuz neither scans really say anything proving your point from my perspective..

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Friend had a copy of the issue, he took some pics:

http://i.imgur.com/p2kVpTr.jpg

"Deep space. Four hundred thousand light years from the planet earth."

http://i.imgur.com/hy93c8j.jpg

"So, I was caught in the space warp, too"

Kinda throws a little bit of doubt at the "feat" itself....

Plus you got the distances wrong. It's 400k light years like the synopsis says.

So basically, he was "blasted away".

The only feat here is Superman surviving being flung light years away.

He didn't travel the distance at his own speed. At all.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Before I provide my reply, please provide title and issue number of the above scans and how it relates to the "feat"? Cuz neither scans really say anything proving your point from my perspective..
Superman: The Earth Stealers. It shows how taxing hyperspace was to superman.Originally posted by deathlife
So basically, he was "blasted away".

The only feat here is Superman surviving being flung light years away.

He didn't travel the distance at his own speed. At all.
Not at all if you read the whole page.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16055592/Action_Comics_589_-_06.jpg.html

Superman certainly flew to that destination.

I went ahead and just bought the damned digital comic myself (Action comics # 589)

DUDE, seriously, STOP.

As mentioned in the bottom narrative box of the last page of Action comics 588:

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_ActionComics588-22.jpg

The events that happen below (Action comics 589) happened immediately after Superman got tossed in Action comics 588.

This is page 1, Action comics# 589

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16055590_Action_Comics_589_-_01.jpg

Page 2

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16054434_Action_Comics_589_-_02.jpg

There was never a page that mentioned even once that Superman jumped or flew ANYWHERE or even regained consciousness prior to the pages above. Unless you can provide an exact scan where he did, then it's a fact that he got tossed by the overlord drive maneuver, got KOd and Arisia found him right after and picked him up.

She felt the overlord drive because, well, it tossed Superman and deposited him near her. Kinda common sense.

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16055592_Action_Comics_589_-_06.jpg

Where was it ever mentioned that the overlord drive was used again? It's plainly written and explained that it was that ONE overlord drive use that flung Superman, hell, from the text:

"I think I can guess the effect Arisia monitored just before she spotted Superman sounds a lot like what would happen if a number of overlapping starship hyperdrives were fired simultaneously."

As what happened here in issue 588:

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_ActionComics588-21.jpg

And with what Superman said:

"Just before I lost consciousness, the hawks signaled me to get back to their ship."

He was unconscious the WHOLE time til they woke him up in pages 4-5 in that same issue (Action Comics issue 589)

So, unless you have some secret issue that happened in between 588 and 589 where Superman woke up a billion light years away, used the overlord drive maneuver again w/o the help of Hawkman/Hawkgirl, knocked himself out and appeared in front of Arisia and unless you can provide the scans, title and issue number of said comic then NONE of what you said happened the way it did.

Maybe its cos im new here but Abhi seems to be getting more unreasonable as time goes on

I think he has a serious problem guys

I've read those pages and there's no mention of Superman being flung away because of his own speed.

None at all.

Superman didn't travel the light years under his own speed. He was even knocked out.

The scans actually make that quite clear.

@Abhi: Where is it mentioned in any of the scans either you or Nib have provided, that Superman flew a "billion lightyears"?

Heck, just show me the panel where the term "billion lightyears" is even mentioned.

Wow.. There's been a rash of myth busting around these forums..

Lmao. Very rarely do you see one individual so blatantly simultaneously misrepresent multiple feats across multiple threads. Incredible. Looking at the scans posted, how this feat can even possibly be interpreted as superman having flown billions of light years is mind numbing...