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Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Silver Surfer
Sersi
Gladiator
Ikaris
Classic Hercules with Mace
Ares (marvel)
Current Hulk

V

Phoenix 5

Team wins this, imo.

Though Ares, Thor and BRB die during the fight.

Originally posted by janus77
Team wins this, imo.

Though Ares, Thor and BRB die during the fight.

Qft

Thor dies, as opposed to people like Gladiator and Hercules?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Thor dies, as opposed to people like Gladiator and Hercules?
Thor, BRB and Ares.

Yes.


This team would use speed and range attacks as much as pure brute force.

Thor and BRB die because they're part of the initial group that would engage the P5 head-on, Hercules would be left for much later.

Gladiator's faster and was a good deal tougher against the P5 than Thor has been against any individual PF'er he's come up against.

Ares dies because he's the weakest one there and he can't take the impact of AoE attacks that would be unleashed in-battle.

Soooo Thor and Billy die but not Ikaris?

Originally posted by janus77
Thor, BRB and Ares.

Yes.


This team would use speed and range attacks as much as pure brute force.

Thor and BRB die because they're part of the initial group that would engage the P5 head-on, Hercules would be left for much later.

Gladiator's faster and was a good deal tougher against the P5 than Thor has been against any individual PF'er he's come up against.

Ares dies because he's the weakest one there and he can't take the impact of AoE attacks that would be unleashed in-battle.

Gladiator only did well because cyclops held back.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Gladiator only did well because cyclops held back.
It was in comparison to Thor's performances against individual members of the P5.

Phoeclops didn't exactly give it much of a go when he bfr'd Thor casually, either.

If Phoenix 5 doesn't hold back and go all out they can't be stopped. Imo

Originally posted by mastagambit
If Phoenix 5 doesn't hold back and go all out they can't be stopped. Imo

Oh they can be stopped alright . All that is needed are a couple of Xorn clones . Or a few of the Shiar's Eleka'an Event Horizon cannons .Pity that Tony didn't properly do his homework .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Oh they can be stopped alright . All that is needed are a couple of Xorn clones . Or a few of the Shiar's Eleka'an Event Horizon cannons .Pity that Tony didn't properly do his homework .


Speaking of Xorn clones, how much are we talking now? Also Madelyne Pryor clones and Scarlet Witch clones should be enough.

Originally posted by janus77
It was in comparison to Thor's performances against individual members of the P5.

Phoeclops didn't exactly give it much of a go when he bfr'd Thor casually, either.

If he used the same power blast on Gladiator, I honestly don't see the result being any different.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Oh they can be stopped alright . All that is needed are a couple of Xorn clones . Or a few of the Shiar's Eleka'an Event Horizon cannons .Pity that Tony didn't properly do his homework .

Xorn never beat the Phoenix.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Xorn never beat the Phoenix.
Does killing Jean Grey(its prime host) and thereby shattering the Force itself into a billion billion pieces count as "beating the Phoenix" ?

Originally posted by mastagambit
Speaking of Xorn clones, how much are we talking now? Also Madelyne Pryor clones and Scarlet Witch clones should be enough.
One should be enough , although 5 should be a safer bet .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Oh they can be stopped alright . All that is needed are a couple of Xorn clones . Or a few of the Shiar's Eleka'an Event Horizon cannons .Pity that Tony didn't properly do his homework .

Yeah right.
Too bad Xorn never faced the P5. That's who's in this thread.
The Shiar army just fell. Where were the cannons? They didn't do their homework. More Phoenix payback.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Yeah right.
Too bad Xorn never faced the P5. That's who's in this thread.
The Shiar army just fell. Where were the cannons? They didn't do their homework. More Phoenix payback.

Ah , but it was the Phoenix nevertheless . Same source of power .

Still doesn't disqualify what the Eleka'an Event Horizon cannon did .

^ No cannon is this thread so yeah, it is disqualified.

Originally posted by Sundipped
^ No cannon is this thread so yeah, it is disqualified.

Not cannon ? How ?

He means the actual cannon isn't in the thread, not that the event isn't canon.

Well , my original post in this thread was in response to a (somewhat off-topic) assertion that the P5 are absolutely unstoppable , so that response is unneeded .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Well , my original post in this thread was in response to a (somewhat off-topic) assertion that the P5 are absolutely unstoppable , so that response is unneeded .

He was talking in reference to the team in this thread. Which is true.

Originally posted by Sundipped
He was talking in reference to the team in this thread. Which is true.
Could be . These are after all , a team of low-trans beings , against a bunch of herald-tiers .
Not to mention that among these heralds , Hulk is the weakest by far .

The P4/5 definitely win this thread .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Does killing Jean Grey(its prime host) and thereby shattering the Force itself into a billion billion pieces count as "beating the Phoenix" ?

Not imo. Jean was still coming in to her power at the time, and the Phoenix was fine after the attack.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not imo. Jean was still coming in to her power at the time, and the Phoenix was fine after the attack.

Fine ? Does being shattered into a billion billion pieces , equate to being fine ?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Fine ? Does being shattered into a billion billion pieces , equate to being fine ?

It reconstituted though, iirc, just like Emma did fighting Thor.

Plus, it was a bit of a low showing for the Phoenix.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Could be . These are after all , a team of low-trans beings , against a bunch of herald-tiers .


Agreed. You'd have to add at least 5 more high end heralds to have a chance here.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It reconstituted though, iirc, just like Emma did fighting Thor.

Plus, it was a bit of a low showing for the Phoenix.

Actually , it got forcibly reconstituted by the Shiar . It was supposed to be reborn anew eventually , in a more natural manner , while incubating within the White Hot Room , but those damn Shiar made sure that didn't happen .

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/543034_hct2005.jpg
http://s1d2.turboimagehost.com/t/4225596_pfbillioncl9.jpg

I agree it was a pretty bad showing .

Damn handbooks.

Herc and Ares are kinda useless here...physical blows won't mean much. They can reform. Not sure what Hulk can do either does current Hulk have something more then brute strength?