Dr.Doom Vs Iron Man

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Supermex
Who wins? No prep...

Hand 2 Hand combat only....

No Magic or engery powers allowed..

Mindset
Doom.

leonidas
im knows he's outclassed so calls in iron fist. doom's fist collides with fist's fist inadvertently causing an omniverse devouring black hole. ironman loses.

JakeTheBank
Doom.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by leonidas
im knows he's outclassed so calls in iron fist. doom's fist collides with fist's fist inadvertently causing an omniverse devouring black hole. ironman loses.

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Damborgson
Originally posted by leonidas
im knows he's outclassed so calls in iron fist. doom's fist collides with fist's fist inadvertently causing an omniverse devouring black hole. ironman loses.

Seems legit thumb up

Lek Kuen
Originally posted by leonidas
im knows he's outclassed so calls in iron fist. doom's fist collides with fist's fist inadvertently causing an omniverse devouring black hole. ironman loses.

Ever notice how Iron Fist is never in the same place as the real Doom? Stark isn't ready for the truth

ColossusGrundy
Doom. Add energy weapons and it flips to IM. Add magic and it flips back to Doom.

Doom.

And he'd be all cool while doing it.

Mindset
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Doom. Add energy weapons and it flips to IM. No, it's still Doom.

Galan007
Sans magic (ie. strictly armor to armor), they've always been portrayed as equals. Factor in magic, however, and Doom far outclasses Tony.

the ninjak
Wasn't Extremis Tony defeating Doom until Doom introduced magic into the equation?

Galan007
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Tony's energy levels may have been higher(hard to say since his energy readings weren't given in the 3rd scan.) But yeah, once Doom used magic, it was all over.

the ninjak
Originally posted by Galan007
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Tony's energy levels may have been higher(hard to say since his energy readings weren't given in the 3rd scan.) But yeah, once Doom used magic, it was all over.

Yeah that's it. thanks for the scans.

And Bleeding Edge Ironman has the huge upgrade of having a much more powerful energy source. Plus an energy sword that can come out of his hand. ouch! A sword that cut off the scalp off one of the Worthy.

Therefore Ironman for the win! Doom had nothing but bad luck after that. Not counting current dual infinite gauntlet Doom that is.

SamZED
Originally posted by the ninjak
Yeah that's it. thanks for the scans.

And Bleeding Edge Ironman has the huge upgrade of having a much more powerful energy source. Plus an energy sword that can come out of his hand. ouch! A sword that cut off the scalp off one of the Worthy.

Therefore Ironman for the win! Doom had nothing but bad luck after that. Not counting current dual infinite gauntlet Doom that is. Didnt Doom have a badass showing against Bannerless Hulk recently? Oh also in Avenging Spider-man vs classic Doc Strange.

Galan007
Tony's had a serious upgrade, no doubt. However, Doom has upgraded his armor significantly as well(check out the last few pages of his respect thread, for instance.) Furthermore, his magical prowess is much, MUCH greater than it was back then as well. Like I mentioned earlier, I have no doubt that if Doom refrained from utilizing magic, he and Bleeding Edge Tony would be portrayed as equals(this has ALWAYS been the case, historically.) But if/when Doom uses magic, it's game over for Tony.

MF DELPH
In a hand to hand fight in their armors, or hand to hand sans armor?

With armor, h2h only, I'd take Tony as the Ironman suit grants him a solid degree of superstrength that I haven't seen Doom's armor match.

Sans armor, Doom killed a lion while unarmed. He'd Buddha Palm Tony to death.

JakeTheBank
Doom's mystical might has been described from going from a "mid level mage" to one of the greatest wielders of the mystic arts on the planet in terms of both power and knowledge. Barring magic, he's still a genius and habitually stalemates Tony while handicapping himself.

Blair Wind
Whatever happened to that upgrade Doom got where he was like the most powerful mage in existence or something? Like he went back in time and trained under someone - I don't remember any details, just that it was all in a FF book.

Anyway, sans armor Tony sucks at hand to hand combat. He got trained for all of one day by Cap and that makes him, magically, competent to take down a group of thugs (Caps paraphrased words) but he's still been taken down by a group of kids before

If you mean in the armor then Tony can cheat a little by having his computer files access fighting styles of people he's seen (ie: Captain America) and then copy them while fighting Doom.

Galan007
Are you referring to Doom overcoming his temporal BFR, fine-tuning his skills for millions of years, and then being trained by the Marquis of Death for an unknown amount of time, before ultimately killing him? If so, that 'version' of Doom hasn't really been touched on-- however, that story was being explored a little bit in recent issues of Dark Avengers.

the ninjak
No Magic!

JakeTheBank
Concerning their armor's physical might, (sans shields) does Tony have a durability feat as good or better than literally no selling a punch from Thing across the face?

Endless Mike
Originally posted by Galan007
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Tony's energy levels may have been higher(hard to say since his energy readings weren't given in the 3rd scan.) But yeah, once Doom used magic, it was all over.

What happened next?

the ninjak
Originally posted by Endless Mike
What happened next?

Well I think Sentry busted in and kicked his ass.

JakeTheBank
IIRC, they got thrown to the past.

Blair Wind
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Concerning their armor's physical might, (sans shields) does Tony have a durability feat as good or better than literally no selling a punch from Thing across the face?

Tony's face is most durable than his armor laughing out loud. He (mostly) no sold a Hercules punch to the face - with no helmet. I think that's pretty phucking impressive.

This was pre-Heroes Reborn era when the original Tony became a villain and was killing Avengers

the ninjak
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
IIRC, they got thrown to the past.

My memories all over the place. Wasn't that Dark Avengers?

Doom and Patriot using Doomtech to go back in time to defeat Morgan Le Fay?

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by the ninjak
My memories all over the place. Wasn't that Dark Avengers?

Doom and Patriot using Doomtech to go back in time to defeat Morgan Le Fay?

What you're describing did happen in Dark Avengers, yes.

But in the scans posted, shortly after their scuffle, Doom, Tony, and Sentry get thrown back a few years to the "silver age" of Marvel. They have to use Reed's time machine to get back to the present.

Galan007
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Concerning their armor's physical might, (sans shields) does Tony have a durability feat as good or better than literally no selling a punch from Thing across the face? In the BE's armor he's no-sold punches from Thor, and shrugged off strikes from Mjolnir:
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Originally posted by Endless Mike
What happened next? They were hurled into the past, came back to the exact moment where Tony was fighting Doom, then Sentry owned Doom.

Originally posted by the ninjak
My memories all over the place. Wasn't that Dark Avengers? Mighty Avengers.

the ninjak
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What you're describing did happen in Dark Avengers, yes.

But in the scans posted, shortly after their scuffle, Doom, Tony, and Sentry get thrown back a few years to the "silver age" of Marvel. They have to use Reed's time machine to get back to the present.

Oh Crazy Marvel Bastards!

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Tony's face is most durable than his armor laughing out loud. He (mostly) no sold a Hercules punch to the face - with no helmet. I think that's pretty phucking impressive.

This was pre-Heroes Reborn era when the original Tony became a villain and was killing Avengers

He also took Cap's shield when his face was exposed in Civil War.

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