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I.F at best and peak vs Rhino at his best and peak in the following: Please note not the dimwitted rhino!!:

1.H2H IF can use his Chi
2. All out fight both can use other powers and abilities ,i.e rhino can charge in etc.. IF can use his Chi blasts etc

Who wins in each of the above how and why??

eww, still don't think rhino can win this one. he couldn't hit IF and IF could just keep punding away until rhino falls....

Ironfist takes his head off

Danny has no "jobber power".

Rhino has an excess of it.

Rhino trips over a skate and KO's himself before Danny even has to punch him... then Danny decapitates him with a jab for good measure.

Not anymore. Rhino is badass.

Originally posted by SamZED
Not anymore. Rhino is badass.

It's in his blood....... wait for it.
He'll get KO'd while changing the channel on his TV soon.

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
It's in his blood....... wait for it.
He'll get KO'd while changing the channel on his TV soon. Heh he managed to defeat his jobber aura. You should see how Slott writes him. He's an unstopable tank these days.

scans or it didnt happen,.

honestly i used to like rhino back then, but now because of his skyfather level jobber aura, meh...

Originally posted by 8swords
scans or it didnt happen,.

To post a few.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/531/amazing685thegroup003.jpghttp://img802.imageshack.us/img802/4527/amazing685thegroup004.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3108/amazing687thegroup014.jpghttp://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1838/amazing687thegroup015.jpg

In the past 20 issues or so of ASM Spider-man stomped most of his rogues. Rhino was one of the few he didn't beat. With his wife's death Alexey is finally getting some respect.

He still stands no chance against Lord Rand.

I think he can win the first scenario.

Originally posted by SamZED
To post a few.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/531/amazing685thegroup003.jpghttp://img802.imageshack.us/img802/4527/amazing685thegroup004.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3108/amazing687thegroup014.jpghttp://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1838/amazing687thegroup015.jpg

In the past 20 issues or so of ASM Spider-man stomped most of his rogues. Rhino was one of the few he didn't beat. With his wife's death Alexey is finally getting some respect.

first 2 scans were kinda nothing, yeah he manage to hit a unfocused spiderman( a bit cocky because of his suit)..
last 2 scans he caught sable, so?..

Originally posted by SamZED
I think he can win the first scenario.
uh yeah i dont think he has a chance on the 1st scenario, the 2nd scenario maybe, but the first, meh

Originally posted by SamZED
I think he can win the first scenario.

First scenario says best and peak.

Anything less than an Iron Fist isn't his best.

Originally posted by 8swords
first 2 scans were kinda nothing, yeah he manage to hit a unfocused spiderman( a bit cocky because of his suit)..
last 2 scans he caught sable, so?..
Really? Rhino used to get beaten by Misty Knight alone. On the first scans he has Spider-man (an upgraded and prepped one) Widown and Sable on the run. They admit they can't do jack to him and Peter even refers to him as "big guns", says he's gotten stronger. You think that's the normal level Rhino operates on? On the second scans Spider-man makes an attempt to move him but fails to move his hand even an inch. Normally Peter would've just kicked him away from Sable. Also there's an issue where Alexei destroyed a very powerful Rhinobot that was givving Spider-man trouble. He didn't jobb once ever since Slott took over.

Originally posted by cdtm
First scenario says best and peak.

Anything less than an Iron Fist isn't his best. Think I misread it, thought 1 was no IF while 2 all out.

Misty Knight also pwned Tigershark who stalemated Namor. Don't mess with Lord Rand's ex.

The same Tigershark who also got choked out by the Punisher and beaten to a bloody pulp by Deadpool in a h2h fight.

Originally posted by SamZED
The same Tigershark who also got choked out by the Punisher and beaten to a bloody pulp by Deadpool in a h2h fight.

Punisher is a high herald at least. And that was before Arliss' upgrade. So no, not the same TS

http://i46.tinypic.com/aoqghy.jpg

DP bfr'd TS with bullets throwing him out of the window, iirc...

Rand decimates him.

Rhino's been a pimp since his girl died. The residual effect of Rhino punching is enough to rupture and liquify all Danny's organs. Good job that shmuck is already wearing pajamas, because he is going to sleep.

1. Danny. I recall Luke giving Rhino a beat-down and Danny has the means to hurt Luke. I'm stuck So much inconsistency with Luke.

2. Rhino

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Rhino's been a pimp since his girl died. The residual effect of Rhino punching is enough to rupture and liquify all Danny's organs. Good job that shmuck is already wearing pajamas, because he is going to sleep.
And then Wolverine wakes up from his Fist induced coma and realizes it was all a dream of a world where Lord Rand was his lesser.

Originally posted by SamZED
Really? Rhino used to get beaten by Misty Knight alone. On the first scans he has Spider-man (an upgraded and prepped one) Widown and Sable on the run. They admit they can't do jack to him and Peter even refers to him as "big guns", says he's gotten stronger. You think that's the normal level Rhino operates on? On the second scans Spider-man makes an attempt to move him but fails to move his hand even an inch. Normally Peter would've just kicked him away from Sable. Also there's an issue where Alexei destroyed a very powerful Rhinobot that was givving Spider-man trouble. He didn't jobb once ever since Slott took over.

Think I misread it, thought 1 was no IF while 2 all out. spiderman popped the docs arms shortly after that in a busted suit iirc they were carbondanium... and he couldnt budge rhino.

Originally posted by SamZED
Really? Rhino used to get beaten by Misty Knight alone. On the first scans he has Spider-man (an upgraded and prepped one) Widown and Sable on the run. They admit they can't do jack to him and Peter even refers to him as "big guns", says he's gotten stronger. You think that's the normal level Rhino operates on? On the second scans Spider-man makes an attempt to move him but fails to move his hand even an inch. Normally Peter would've just kicked him away from Sable. Also there's an issue where Alexei destroyed a very powerful Rhinobot that was givving Spider-man trouble. He didn't jobb once ever since Slott took over.



not really sure if spidey was upgraded that much, seeing that his suit failed i dunno about 5 times? correct me if im wrong.


TBH, i reread the story, and saw that rhino was well written, but that alone wont make up for his bad record.