Batman vs Superman with a twist

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golem370
Alright Batman has 1 full year of prep to be ready for Superman but Superman gets to Sundip for a month. Alright Superman can't bfr Bats or Earth to win. Who wins?

pym-ftw
If bats builds a batcave of k-nite he wins

DarkSaint85
Batman. BFRs Ma and Pa Kent to some distant land, then makes Superman forfeit.

golem370
If they're still on earth he could find his parents pretty fast.

Damborgson
Batman gets the rest of the Jla to go beat the shit out of him while he's chilling by the sun.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by golem370
If they're still on earth he could find his parents pretty fast.

Ach, I meant distant planet. With prep, they could be anywhere, any time.

golem370
Alright No stealing Superman parents this is a thread between Bats and Superman plus there is no bfr as well

Mshinu
Like Bats needs a year for this.. he probably got a switch in his belt for turning the sun red already.

golem370
How would that Superman from taking a Oil Tanker and Shoving it down Batman thoat?

Mshinu
Originally posted by golem370
How would that Superman from taking a Oil Tanker and Shoving it down Batman thoat?

I am asuming you missed the word "stop" in there.

Red sun radiation would strip him of his powers? Anyway it was a joke, but the point is supes got plenty of vulnerabilities for Batman to exploit. With his ridicolous levels of prep, he wins easily.

golem370
With him Dipping for a month he was be extremely amped.

juggerman
Without MASSIVE amounts of PIS/CIS Batman could never beat Superman. Supes has too many ways to off Batman without coming close and can move faster than Batman can think.

The only reason Batman ever wins is cuz Clark is trying to reason with him or some crap or he's being mind controlled and isn't going all out. If Superman really wanted to kill Bruce and used his abilities to the max there would be nothing Bats could do.

janus77
Batman's already starched Superman's undies in preparation.

Superman dies from violently scratching his nether-region for a good whole month, while in the sun.

bbrem123
Batman is just one of those characters that can beat pretty much anybody with that kind of prep time

BlackZero30x
batman seeks out lex luther. He explains that he needs his Green K. Lex agrees to help and build a room to "beat" sups. lets face it anychance to beat superman....Batman agrees to be bait. Batman dies in the process of getting him into the room. The room turns on a green kryptonite force field. once he weak as a kitten the red sun energy kicks into high gear. super man turns normal lex cuts off his head.

Lex wins 10/10 shifty

juggerman
^Now this might work laughing

JakeTheBank
Batman isn't Doom. Superman wins.

ares834
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Batman isn't Doom.

Yep. But Doom wishes he was Batman.

Shabazz916
superman makes a suit of thick lead and kills batman

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by ares834
Yep. But Doom wishes he was Batman.

Why would Doom wish to be a weaker, dumber, and less capable being?

CosmicComet
Prep threads are the worst threads.

cdtm
With CIS on, Batman loses. He do half the over the top, potentially lethal scenario's posters come up with, since he doesn't kill (And plunking Supes in the middle of a Green K cave would kill him.)

With CIS off, Gotham gets thrown into the sun.

Mindship
"Batman with prep" is KMC's debate terminator. Speedblitz may be Superman's only hope.

DarkSaint85
Without the help of his parents....
Superman amps.
Then flies off faster than the speed of light. Uses his supervision to observe what Batman did in his year of prep (all he needs to do is fly more than one light year away).

Then flies back, and all of Batman's plans are for naught.

Branlor Swift
Batman runs at Superman, kicks him in half.

Oh, he's got prep too? He ties him up after.

SasuOna
Batman makes a kryptonite powered armor like Luthor and puts the whoopin on supes.

Blight
I hate this "No BFR" horse shit. Suddenly Superman can't use strength to throw Batman into the sun before he blinks because it's BFR? Stupid.

cdtm
Originally posted by Blight
I hate this "No BFR" horse shit. Suddenly Superman can't use strength to throw Batman into the sun before he blinks because it's BFR? Stupid.

So Superman throws the battlefield into the sun. wink

CosmicComet
Originally posted by cdtm
So Superman throws the battlefield into the sun. wink

So literally he's removing the battlefield?

lulz.

Branlor Swift
Batman throws the sun into the battlefield.

juggerman
In that same instance Superman could just punch thru Batman's torso and pull out his spine Russel Edgington style

golem370
I mean Superman could loot all the bombs on earth place then all the places Batman might go and wait to see if that works. He could gather bunker busters and toss them at mach speed over and over again until he got Batman in his cave alot of ways for Supes to win.

cdtm
Originally posted by juggerman
In that same instance Superman could just punch thru Batman's torso and pull out his spine Russel Edgington style

And he could do this despite Green K.

Stuff hasn't completely debilitated him since the Pre Crisis days.

juggerman
Not when he's uber solar amped

BruceSkywalker
Batman still wins.. he knows Clark's weaknesses so he'll use those to his advantage.. he could certainly build a kryptonite batsuit filled with krypto bat a rangs and gases, etc and Supes dies

SasuOna
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Batman still wins.. he knows Clark's weaknesses so he'll use those to his advantage.. he could certainly build a kryptonite batsuit filled with krypto bat a rangs and gases, etc and Supes dies
Plus Bruce can sneak up on Clark without having any powers imagine what he'd do with that advantage in his kryptonite bat armor

JakeTheBank
If Batman gets plot armor and PIS in addition to prep, Superman stands no chance.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by SasuOna
Plus Bruce can sneak up on Clark without having any powers imagine what he'd do with that advantage in his kryptonite bat armor


yep..


Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If Batman gets plot armor and PIS in addition to prep, Superman stands no chance.


lols .. I have never ever cared about PIS neither here nor in the MVF.. Batman is given a year prep, in that time he will build what is necessary to defeat Clark

JakeTheBank
PIS is what enables Batman to do a great deal of the things he has. Not sure how that can be disputed or ignored.

If Superman sundips for a month, he'll be so astronomically powerful and fast that nothing Batman can feasibly do will matter in the end. Batman's a decent prep artist, but he's not a super genius in the vein of Richards or Doom, and his tech isn't close to being on the same level, either.

SasuOna
Realistically I don't see any scenario where Superman is beating Luthor who has access to all his resources for a year to take down superman without there being CIS and PIS in favor of superman

So consequently putting Batman in place of Luthor isn't changing much if anything at all.

DarkSaint85
Yeah - and good luck on sneaking up on Clark in a Kryptonite suit lol. Considering the effect it has on him in some stories, he'd start detecting it from miles away..

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
PIS is what enables Batman to do a great deal of the things he has. Not sure how that can be disputed or ignored.

If Superman sundips for a month, he'll be so astronomically powerful and fast that nothing Batman can feasibly do will matter in the end. Batman's a decent prep artist, but he's not a super genius in the vein of Richards or Doom, and his tech isn't close to being on the same level, either.


frack PIS as each and every character has it including Supes so yeah I couldn't care less about it.. so yeah Batman builds a krypto batsuit since he was given a year prep and in that time which is plenty for Batman to create and come up with ways to defeat Clark.. Batman does afterall knows Clark's weaknesses which is very helpful.. Batman also possesses a mother box I do believe so he can boom Supes to a far away planet with no sun

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
frack PIS as each and every character has it including Supes so yeah I couldn't care less about it.. so yeah Batman builds a krypto batsuit since he was given a year prep and in that time which is plenty for Batman to create and come up with ways to defeat Clark.. Batman does afterall knows Clark's weaknesses which is very helpful.. Batman also possesses a mother box I do believe so he can boom Supes to a far away planet with no sun

Yeah, and per forum rules, it's turned off by default. Turning off PIS hurts Batman and greatly aids Superman.

Superman, prior to the reboot, has developed a massive resistance to kryptonite under normal conditions. Infinite Crisis was probably his best feat in that regard as he was pushed through Rao, a red sun, and THEN had to deal with the remains of Krypton and he somehow survived (albeit he got depowered for close to a year).

Superman with a month long sundip is going to be bolstered by absurd levels of solar energy, enough to effectively power through any red sun and kryptonite crap Batman could feasibly obtain. He'll also be far faster than Batman can hope to comprehend.

And contrary to popular belief, just as Bruce knows Clark, Clark, likewise, knows Bruce. He'll know that Bruce will likely plan on exploiting weaknesses of his and react accordingly.

If Superman wants Bruce dead or even incapacitated, he'll do it in mere moments, if that.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, and per forum rules, it's turned off by default. Turning off PIS hurts Batman and greatly aids Superman.

Superman, prior to the reboot, has developed a massive resistance to kryptonite under normal conditions. Infinite Crisis was probably his best feat in that regard as he was pushed through Rao, a red sun, and THEN had to deal with the remains of Krypton and he somehow survived (albeit he got depowered for close to a year).

Superman with a month long sundip is going to be bolstered by absurd levels of solar energy, enough to effectively power through any red sun and kryptonite crap Batman could feasibly obtain. He'll also be far faster than Batman can hope to comprehend.

And contrary to popular belief, just as Bruce knows Clark, Clark, likewise, knows Bruce. He'll know that Bruce will likely plan on exploiting weaknesses of his and react accordingly.

If Superman wants Bruce dead or even incapacitated, he'll do it in mere moments, if that.


sorry but i don;t worry about things like that...


and Bruce will know that Clark will know that,, Batman's plans have plans so he will adjust and adapt..

DarkSaint85
So a no limits fallacy for Brucie?

Its not like he has plans for EVERYTHING. Ra's and Talia made a fool out of him, and easily bypassed his security in Tower of Babel. Spoiler made a mockery of his War Games plan. So not infallible.

Plus, Superman could just fly faster than light, and then observe what Bruce does 1 light year away.

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