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Again they both somehow have fully functioning gauntlets. Who wins?

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Adam he's just smarter

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Adam he's just smarter

Thanos showed more power with it.

Nearly becoming god > making a girlfriend

what lol?

Adam creating Magus and Goddess as to become Toaa > Thanos making Terraxia

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Adam creating Magus and Goddess as to become Toaa > Thanos making Terraxia He didn't make them. He just split himself. And he didn't even know he did it...

This is one of those instances that strictly looking feats doesn't work, because they have the exact same power.

It's a stalemate.

Adam Warlock seemed to take the Gauntlet more seriously

Warlock.

Warlock .

Prob warlock...

Originally posted by Astner
This is one of those instances that strictly looking feats doesn't work, because they have the exact same power.

It's a stalemate.
Then you need to look at intelligence, motivations, and morals

These favor Adam

If you don't Zod, ultraman, bizarro, and superman all stalemate everytime

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Then you need to look at intelligence, motivations, and morals

These favor Adam

If you don't Zod, ultraman, bizarro, and superman all stalemate everytime
That's an invalid comparison since the Soul gems aren't affected by those attributes. Nebula was a barely-conscious corpse before she got her hands on the gauntlet.

Superman can make use of his powers better than his Kryptonian brethren because there's a way to make better use them. The same doesn't hold for the god-like powers provided by the gems. There's no way to concentrate or optimize the influence of the gauntlet because its influence is absolute, ignoring the top tiers like the Living Trigunal.

Warlock. IG thanos is going to get beat up by hulk probably in Avengers Assemble.

Adam has the superior IG feats

Like what feats?

Blowing away the abstracts, forcing LT to take him down.

Not saying Thanos couldn't do the same (I'm sure he could)... but he didn't

/shrug

Originally posted by Astner
That's an invalid comparison since the Soul gems aren't affected by those attributes. Nebula was a barely-conscious corpse before she got her hands on the gauntlet.

Superman can make use of his powers better than his Kryptonian brethren because there's a way to make better use them. The same doesn't hold for the god-like powers provided by the gems. There's no way to concentrate or optimize the influence of the gauntlet because its influence is absolute, ignoring the top tiers like the Living Trigunal.

This is spot on.

Stalemate

Definitely stalemate.

Originally posted by Astner
That's an invalid comparison since the Soul gems aren't affected by those attributes. Nebula was a barely-conscious corpse before she got her hands on the gauntlet.

Superman can make use of his powers better than his Kryptonian brethren because there's a way to make better use them. The same doesn't hold for the god-like powers provided by the gems. There's no way to concentrate or optimize the influence of the gauntlet because its influence is absolute, ignoring the top tiers like the Living Trigunal. In *theory* they should all be equals with the IG. However, it was stated a few times throughout the various IG arcs that different beings adapt to the omnipotence of the collective gems, differently-- even for a being such as Magus, it took a considerable amount of time to acclimate himself with said power(hell, he didn't even know the reality gem was missing until Warlock TOLD him so.) And again, that was Magus-- you think idiots like Nebula or The Hood approached even his level of 'adeptivity' with the IG? No way. Point being: all IG users are not equal... Initially, at least.

That said, because Warlock held the gauntlet for much longer than Thanos, he *should* be more accustomed with its powers, which *should* give him an ever-so-slight advantage.

Thanos wins.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Adam he's just smarter

Adam is smarter than Thanos... You jest.. WHAT are you basing that on?

Thanos had superior battle feats.. how does warlock have better feats? This very well could be a stalemate.. but Warlock certainly didn't have the better feats.

The fact he holds council with eternity and infinity

I guess smarter is the wrong word, wiser would be a more correct

Originally posted by Cogito
Blowing away the abstracts, forcing LT to take him down.

Not saying Thanos couldn't do the same (I'm sure he could)... but he didn't

/shrug

Well Thanos did imprison the abstracts.
Thanos wasn't able to appear for cosmic court in order for LT to make a decision due to plot but safe to say it would've led to that eventually.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
The fact he holds council with eternity and infinity

I guess smarter is the wrong word, wiser would be a more correct Thanos is better than Warlock. Thanos is more successful than Warlock. Warlock has needed Thanos to help him not become the Magus for crying out loud. If you don't have self control you aren't that wise, amigo.

Adam Warlock 10/10.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Well Thanos did imprison the abstracts.
Thanos wasn't able to appear for cosmic court in order for LT to make a decision due to plot but safe to say it would've led to that eventually.

To elaborate, plot = LT basically not giving a flying phuck:

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13005709_1067803-the_infinity_guantlet_03_26_super.jpg

Thanos is more ruthless and better h2h fighter than warlock, though adam might be slightly more cunning.

All of which means nothing since they both hold the same powers. eternal tie imo

Originally posted by Cogito
Blowing away the abstracts, forcing LT to take him down.

Not saying Thanos couldn't do the same (I'm sure he could)... but he didn't

/shrug All he did was bfr the abstracts not that impressive really, Thanos actually fought and defeated all the abstracts at once.

I see it as a stalemate, but Thanos has more and better feats.

adam had a better connection with the soul gem, and thus the other 5. you saw what he did to both nebula and the magus. magus being "33%" of his soul facilitating the feat makes it vague, but him doing it to nebula too shows it's really adam that has an affinity with the gems

^^^ True.. but that didn't stop the weakest version of Thanos with NO gems one shot killing Warlock with his beloved soul gem...

then warlock killed him back after developing a deeper bond with the gem from within soul world.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
then warlock killed him back after developing a deeper bond with the gem from within soul world. And aided by Chaos and Order.

Stalemate.

Originally posted by Nihilist
All he did was bfr the abstracts not that impressive really, Thanos actually fought and defeated all the abstracts at once.

I see it as a stalemate, but Thanos has more and better feats.
This doesn't seem like a BFR : http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12638336/w1.jpg.html

Originally posted by Nihilist
And aided by Chaos and Order.

beat me to it.. and an unexpecting Thanos... Thanos killed warlock in a straight up fight...

so how did LT beat Warlock? Anyone have the scans on hand?

Originally posted by Damborgson
so how did LT beat Warlock? Anyone have the scans on hand? Warlock simply gave the IG up.

^
Originally posted by Damborgson
so how did LT beat Warlock? Anyone have the scans on hand? http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006415_1.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006416_2.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006417_3.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006418_4.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006419_5.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006420_6.jpg

On another note, I love the fact that not even LT was sure if he had enough power to take the gauntlet from Warlock by force.

Warlock is the shit.

he owned dr. strange with all of his books just with the power gem alone

No, he used each and every gem during that fight.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Warlock simply gave the IG up.
Originally posted by Galan007
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http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006415_1.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006416_2.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006417_3.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006418_4.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006419_5.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006420_6.jpg

On another note, I love the fact that not even LT was sure if he had enough power to take the gauntlet from Warlock by force.

Thank you

edit: as a side not Eternity's acting like a little *****

do you have it on you? i had a feeling i was remembering it wrong

Originally posted by Nihilist
And aided by Chaos and Order. The only thing Master Order and Lord Chaos did was guide Spiderman to the Soul Gem and make Warlock aware of one final task.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
do you have it on you? i had a feeling i was remembering it wrong Time:
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/13006526_1.jpg

Space and Reality (separately):
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/13006527_2.jpg

Mind:
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/13006528_3.jpg

Power:
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/13006529_4.jpg

Soul:
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/13006530_5.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Power:
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/13006529_4.jpg
this is what i was mentioning. the caption at the bottom right

Oh, my bad. I thought you meant that was the *only* gem he used against Strange.

Originally posted by ODG
The only thing Master Order and Lord Chaos did was guide Spiderman to the Soul Gem and make Warlock aware of one final task.

True, but this was an aid.

I think main point should be.. The weakest version of Thanos , with no gem, one shot Warlock with the Soul Gem.. in a striaght up battle face to face. Warlock killed Thanos via sneak attack from inside the gem.. Those are really worlds apart.

thanos was terrified to see warlock's "ghost". it wouldn't have mattered if it was a straight up attack cause his touch turned thanos to stone

Originally posted by Galan007
Time:
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/13006526_1.jpg

Space and Reality (separately):
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/13006527_2.jpg

Mind:
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/13006528_3.jpg

Power:
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/13006529_4.jpg

Soul:
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/13006530_5.jpg

This is the Strange feat which often gets described inaccurately as Strange resisting the entire Infinity Gauntlet instead of each Gem separately, right?

Correct.

Hell, the PG alone was enough to easily stomp Strange(who had brought ALL of his artifacts to the battle.) But to be fair, Strange did do well against the other individual gems.

Originally posted by Galan007
Correct.

Hell, the PG alone was enough to easily stomp Strange(who had brought ALL of his artifacts to the battle.) But to be fair, Strange did do well against the other individual gems.

Gotcha.

Definitely impressive showing for Strange.

Originally posted by Galan007
Correct.

Hell, the PG alone was enough to easily stomp Strange(who had brought ALL of his artifacts to the battle.) But to be fair, Strange did do well against the other individual gems.

Strange didn't get stomped by the PG.
He admitted that he would inevitably fall to it but for that brief period of time he stalemated it untill he snatched the soul gem from Adam and used it against him. Happened inbetween the last 2 scans you posted.

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/9694361_DrStrangeSorcerersupre36-18.jpg

"The result is a momentary equilibrium of power".

Originally posted by Galan007
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http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006415_1.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006416_2.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006417_3.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006418_4.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006419_5.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/13006420_6.jpg

On another note, I love the fact that not even LT was sure if he had enough power to take the gauntlet from Warlock by force.


It's so funny that you mention this little fact, because when I mentioned this years ago, people just kept saying, that the LT would have taken it away from him with little to no proof to back the opinion up. What I got from it was that Warlock didn't want to destroy everything just to keep the mitt.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Strange didn't get stomped by the PG.
He admitted that he would inevitably fall to it but for that brief period of time he stalemated it untill he snatched the soul gem from Adam and used it against him. Happened inbetween the last 2 scans you posted.

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/9694361_DrStrangeSorcerersupre36-18.jpg

"The result is a momentary equilibrium of power". "Which I know, almost at once, cannot long endure. And WHEN I fall..."

So yes, the PG alone WAS enough to easily beat Strange /w/ all of his artifacts. Strange himself stated as much.

Originally posted by Stoic
It's so funny that you mention this little fact, because when I mentioned this years ago, people just kept saying, that the LT would have taken it away from him with little to no proof to back the opinion up. What I got from it was that Warlock didn't want to destroy everything just to keep the mitt. That's exactly what happened.

Originally posted by ODG
The only thing Master Order and Lord Chaos did was guide Spiderman to the Soul Gem and make Warlock aware of one final task. smh......

Originally posted by Galan007
"Which I know, almost at once, cannot long endure. And WHEN I fall..."

So yes, the PG alone WAS enough to easily beat Strange /w/ all of his artifacts. Strange himself stated as much.

Easily beat my ass. no2

He was still standing face to face with Adam.
People get the infamous misconception that he was wtf pwned because of the line of narration at the bottom of this page:

"Against It None Of My Vaunted Talismans Could Stand..."
He was speaking of his Talismans individually:

http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/13015540_1311545-ig58iz.jpg

But as we see on the next page, Strange says:

"I had arranged for all my talismans to act TOGETHER to counteract it."
Which resulted in "An outpouring of power against power" thus leading to a momentary equilibrium.

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/13015543_DrStrangeSorcerersupre36-18.jpg

The statement "which I know, almost at once, cannot long endure" means he would be incapable of maintaining the power struggle for a prolonged period. But it didn't come to that. As is, he stalemated the gem. He wasn't beaten nor stomped.

Apparently you aren't comprehending what I'm saying...

I said that the PG alone was enough to easily beat Strange /w/ all of his artifacts. ie. the power gem would have eventually prevailed against Strange in that confrontation. That much was stated by Strange himself. However(and this is where you seem to be getting confused), I never said the PG actually defeated Strange-- he (Strange) shifted the battle elsewhere before that happened.

So you can save your snide comments/scans for when they're relevant.

stalemate

It's not a question of what would've happened.
You said he was easily beaten & stomped but.....HE WASN'T.
Nothing snide about it.

Originally posted by Sundipped
It's not a question of what would've happened.
You said he was easily beaten & stomped but.....HE WASN'T.
Nothing snide about it. THIS was my exact quote:Originally posted by Galan007
Hell, the PG alone was enough to easily stomp Strange(who had brought ALL of his artifacts to the battle.) As was confirmed through narration, the PG alone *was* enough to stomp Strange in that encounter. But again: I *never* said the PG was *actually* used to defeat Strange. That doesn't change the fact that it *could* have, though-- which was my point.

Easy, right?

Originally posted by Galan007
THIS was my exact quote: As was confirmed through narration, the PG alone *was* enough to stomp Strange in that encounter. But again: I *never* said the PG was *actually* used to defeat Strange. That doesn't change the fact that it *could* have, though-- which was my point.

Easy, right?

Im aware of what you said & you can twist the words all you want but you said flat out that he was easily beaten and stomped Galan, This is far from the truth.

We can treat this like Burger King and you can have it your way though.
Would you like a shake with that combo?

Originally posted by Sundipped
Im aware of what you said & you can twist the words all you want but you said flat out that he was easily beaten and stomped Galan, This is far from the truth. What words am I twisting? Heck, I just reposted my EXACT quote.

AGAIN: I said the PG was enough to stomp Strange-- which it WAS (Strange confirmed this.) However, I never once said that Strange was actually stomped by the gem (that's YOU twisting MY words.) In fact, if you simply LOOK at the scans I posted on the last page, you can very clearly see that Strange was still fighting Warlock AFTER the PG was used-- so obviously the battle didn't end with the PG.

You are making this harder than it needs to be, and twisting what I actually said in an effort to justify whatever point you thought you had. Stop. Arguing just to argue is no bueno.

No biggie