Kyle Rayner vs Wonder Man (Ionic)

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cdtm
Who wins?

cdtm
While I liked Busiek's JLA/Avengers, he underwrote Kyle a bit..

Since nearly day one, he was creating all kinds of power armors and strength enhancements to just beat down bricks. Even beat down Kalibak with a Mjolnir inspired hammer, in just two hits. Easier than time displaced Hal beat him.

Q99
Kyle, fairly solidly.

abhilegend
Originally posted by cdtm
While I liked Busiek's JLA/Avengers, he underwrote Kyle a bit..

Since nearly day one, he was creating all kinds of power armors and strength enhancements to just beat down bricks. Even beat down Kalibak with a Mjolnir inspired hammer, in just two hits. Easier than time displaced Hal beat him.
Yeah and before that kalibak oneshotted him. Hal beat kalibak easily. As for the fight simon has become a joke now. Classic simon can get 3-4/10 on kyle.

cdtm
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah and before that kalibak oneshotted him.

Yes. big grin

Hey, Kalibak's tough. But my point, is when Kyle gets serious, he can slug it out with the best of them.



Are you thinking of rookie time displaced Hal, or another fight? Hal did beat Kalibak, but through his wits. Hit for hit, Hal's oversized mallet did less damage than Kyle's Mjolnir shots.

Golgo13
Kyle with ease.

abhilegend
Originally posted by cdtm
Yes. big grin

Hey, Kalibak's tough. But my point, is when Kyle gets serious, he can slug it out with the best of them.



Are you thinking of rookie time displaced Hal, or another fight? Hal did beat Kalibak, but through his wits. Hit for hit, Hal's oversized mallet did less damage than Kyle's Mjolnir shots.
Yeah and he has had his troubles with mid-tier bricks too.

Hal beatdown kalibak easily than kyle in the same fight which you are describing i.e the rookie hal. Experienced hal oneshotted mongul.

Bentley
Kyle with ease.

Horrificus
Classic Simon 5/10.

Mindset
Kyle at least 10/10.

cdtm
Bump, just to post this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/act784pg17_zpsa4467df3.jpg

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"Y-your face... What did I do to your face?"

"It'll heal! "

Kyle messed him up. Superman surviving it is expected, because he's Superman, but that's pretty impressive imo..

abhilegend
^ That was Ion amped kyle, not regular kyle.

Branlor Swift
Kyle should never try hurting Superman. He's the reason he's still alive

"Save me better hero than me! Save me!"

Kyle loses here, Hal would dominate though

cdtm
Originally posted by abhilegend
^ That was Ion amped kyle, not regular kyle.

He didn't ditch the ring when he was Ion 2?

Yat only keeps his because it regulates his lead poisoning.

ThereIsHope
Yeah, and you guys say that Superman would get beat up by Thanos in a few shots. LOL isnt that ****ing ION Kyle?

Branlor Swift
Nobody here said that

Thanos isn't a relevant topic to any character here though

cdtm
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
Yeah, and you guys say that Superman would get beat up by Thanos in a few shots. LOL isnt that ****ing ION Kyle?

Abhi said it is, and I'm not calling him a liar, but I thought Kyle as Iron 2 had a different look. Here, he looks like "classic" Kyle.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Oxzh9Q1GoWQ/S974XDauurI/AAAAAAAAB-Y/0WwQh63dglA/s400/gl_kylerayner_4_ion_2.jpg

Like that, as Ion 2.

abhilegend
Originally posted by cdtm
He didn't ditch the ring when he was Ion 2?

Yat only keeps his because it regulates his lead poisoning.
He was accessing Ion power left in the sun by hallax at that point. That comic is just after OWAW and in OWAW:Green Lantern it was confirmed that kyle was accessing Ion power since circle of fire. He became Ion just a few months after that comic.

cdtm
Originally posted by abhilegend
He was accessing Ion power left in the sun by hallax at that point.

Ohh, THAT Ion. Ok.

Yeah, that's more of a feat for Superman then Kyle, in that case.

abhilegend
Originally posted by cdtm
Ohh, THAT Ion. Ok.

Yeah, that's more of a feat for Superman then Kyle, in that case.
Yeah, superman is just that powerful.

Mindset
Kyle was barely tapping into the residual power at that point.

Pretty sure that happened pre Oblivion.

Mindset
Anyway, Kyle > Superman > Hal.

abhilegend
He was heavily tapping into the residual power as explained in GL:OWAW.

Circle of fire happened in 2000, Action comics 784 happened in 2001.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Green_Lantern:_Circle_of_Fire_Vol_1

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Action_Comics_Vol_1_784

Bentley
Kyle is a White Lantern, he sh_ts on poor Simon

Horrificus
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Kyle should never try hurting Superman. He's the reason he's still alive

"Save me better hero than me! Save me!"

Kyle loses here, Hal would dominate though I agree. Kyle should go back to new kids on the block. leave the tough stuff for the Danzigs and Motorheads.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by Mindset
Kyle was barely tapping into the residual power at that point.

Pretty sure that happened pre Oblivion. you've swayed me, maybe overswayed since I don't think he was tapping into anything at all

He's still bottom of the barrel

ThereIsHope
Lol, Brandon actually had the gaul to report me for being a troll. You actually say stupid crap like this and yet you say im a troll.

Dude you make me sick enough to vomit, yet my stomach got confused and my ass blew chunks, Why dont you give it a french kiss?

abhilegend
Bran has claimed another soul.

Branlor Swift
Go create a Thanos or bran thread if you only want to talk about me or Thanos

Although I'd prefer it if you stopped being in love with me, but that won't happen, I'm 2cute

Martian_mind
Kyle gets choked out like the ***** he is.

Mindset
Originally posted by abhilegend
He was heavily tapping into the residual power as explained in GL:OWAW.

Circle of fire happened in 2000, Action comics 784 happened in 2001.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Green_Lantern:_Circle_of_Fire_Vol_1

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Action_Comics_Vol_1_784 AC 784 happened before Circle of Fire in the DCU.

Mshinu
Simon takes the ring then chokes Kyle out mercifully.

curryman
Kyle takes him down, 10/10.

ThereIsHope
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Go create a Thanos or bran thread if you only want to talk about me or Thanos

Although I'd prefer it if you stopped being in love with me, but that won't happen, I'm 2cute

LOL. im not the one who visits your threads. You visit mine. Secondly I dont report you like a little cry baby for every dumb thing you say.

I dont know how anyone could be in trouble for being a troll since your a troll almost all the time.

Oh by the way. Ion was universal if not multiversal.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
LOL. im not the one who visits your threads. You visit mine. Secondly I dont report you like a little cry baby for every dumb thing you say.

I dont know how anyone could be in trouble for being a troll since your a troll almost all the time.

Oh by the way. Ion was universal if not multiversal. I reported you once because your incoherent nonsense cut me deep. smile
Like I said, go make a bran or Thanos thread to talk about your obsessions

Ion isn't even in this thread. His power level is irrelevant

Enough indulging though, Wonder Man chokes him out worse than Rulk

ThereIsHope
Um no he doesnt. Power level is never irrelevent. Kyle Rayner wins.

ThereIsHope
You reported me cause your a hypocrite and a coward.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
You reported me cause your a hypocrite and a coward. thumb up
What else am I?

Originally posted by ThereIsHope
Um no he doesnt. Power level is never irrelevent. Kyle Rayner wins. Ion's power level is entirely irrelevant to anything said here

This regular Kyle, not Ion in this thread. Read the OP

-Pr-
Guys, cut it out.

ThereIsHope
I dont know what your talking about...........the OP doesnt say nothing.

It says who wins. Kyle wins. I cant call you names..........you might call your daddy in here to tell me something about how when you cry your emo mascera shames him.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, cut it out. thumb up

Anyway WM's sig move comes into play:
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Kyle gets choked out like the ***** he is. Originally posted by Mshinu
Simon takes the ring then chokes Kyle out mercifully.

ThereIsHope
Yeah, I remmeber all those times that a Lantern has lost his ring. Oh no I dont.

Anyway Kyle wins.

abhilegend
Really? Deathstroke, Majestic and Wonder Woman have all done it to kyle, supergirl has done it to John, Batman has done it to Hal.

Batman-Prime
WM has a good chance against a rookie Kyle. The more experienced version wins a solid majority though.

curryman
Originally posted by abhilegend
Really? Deathstroke, Majestic and Wonder Woman have all done it to kyle, supergirl has done it to John, Batman has done it to Hal.

The common factor being

- writers having hard ons for said characters
- said characters being fast/agile as all hell

abhilegend
Originally posted by curryman
The common factor being

- writers having hard ons for said characters
- said characters being fast/agile as all hell
1st is true except Johns hates batman.
Second is also true. I didn't say WM would take the ring away though.

celeyhyga17
A lantern getting his ring taken away from his or her person is sooo PISssy. I mean come on, they have a protective aura. In a forum fight that aint happening. Wonderman's been beastly lately, but taking Kyle here even though he a little beetch.

Hal > Kyle > Guy > John

Bentley
Kyle is a frigging white lantern, he punks Simon.

Also, Martian Mind is the worst kind of fanboy flirt

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