Victor von Doom vs. Steve Rogers

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JakeTheBank
Which man possesses the greatest willpower?

DarkSaint85
Has Steve gone up against the Purple Man before?

pym-ftw
Doom

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Which man possesses the greatest willpower?
Reported for making a spite thread .

Doom wins .

JakeTheBank
If there's anyone whose force of will can even compete with Doom's in Marvel, it's Steven Grant Rogers.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Has Steve gone up against the Purple Man before?

I want to say he has, but I can't for the life of me remember.

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If there's anyone whose force of will can even compete with Doom's in Marvel, it's Steven Grant Rogers.
Thanos can as well .

pym-ftw
I think Rogers would win in a stress test but is more likely to be influenced by suggestion

Tony Stark
Ben Grimm duh...

JakeTheBank
I also think ego plays a large in it. Doom's sense of self is pretty well documented.

On the flip side, Rogers force of will stems from beyond his sense of self (ie. selflessness)

Tbh, I think it's an interesting match.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Ben Grimm

Would lose to either man.

cdtm
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I want to say he has, but I can't for the life of me remember.

I don't think he has, which is a good thing imo.. We already had Kingpin resist him easy.. And DD with more effort. Those right there kind of cheapen the feat for Doom. (Though is still impressive given it's a rare thing..)

Tony Stark
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Would lose to either man.


Nope

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Nope

Ben's will and "heart" are nice and all.

Completely not on the level of either Doom or Rogers, but nice.

Tony Stark
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Ben's will and "heart" are nice and all.

Completely not on the level of either Doom or Rogers, but nice.



What willpower feats puts them ahead of him?

pym-ftw
Doom

Purple man feat

Cap

His entire history

cdtm
Originally posted by Tony Stark
What willpower feats puts them ahead of him?

From Doom, lots..

The Marquis of Death arc was a pretty good example, where he gets nearly killed, gets tossed back in time with his armor totally destroyed and near death, and somehow manages to not only survive, but make himself the Marquis's apprentice for who knows how long, arranges for the FF to defeat him, and then delivers the finishing blow while practically gloating "HAHA!"..

His history is full of stuff like that.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Tony Stark
What willpower feats puts them ahead of him?

Doom
-Being peeled away by the Beyonder and usurping his power

Rogers
-Korvac Saga

Just for starters in any case. Ben's really got nothing to compete with in terms of their high end stuff.

DarkSaint85
You forgot some details...

He was tossed back 50 million years...

Uriel005
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18863/2015452-fearitself_7_preview1.jpeg http://marvel.com/images/gallery/issue/38045/images_from_fear_itself_2010_6/image/889208/full


Captain America has no magics and technological trickery to draw confidence from.... He needs none.

Uriel005
meant to post this one first.
not showing up damn
http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/3/70/4e7374b83132e/detail.jpgl

Mindset
Originally posted by cdtm
I don't think he has, which is a good thing imo.. We already had Kingpin resist him easy.. And DD with more effort. Those right there kind of cheapen the feat for Doom. (Though is still impressive given it's a rare thing..) Did PM have the power to enslave the entire world when KP and DD resisted him?

DarkSaint85
For those of you trying to downplay it....you guys are trying to compare this:

http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/scans8/MTUAnn4_Kingpin.jpg

To this:

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p388/proteus_lives/Scan11942.jpg.

No comparison....

DTM
Love that book, Emperor Doom. smile Cap was one of the billions that the Purple Man (augmented by Dooms machine) was able to control, though to Caps credit he was the first one that snapped out of it (with some help), and unlike Doom, Cap wasnt actively trying to resist PM, he couldnt prepare himself as Doom did, it was simply WHAM Caps under PMs control.

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