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Zealot W/Kusar Blades
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Nemesis
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vs

Silver Samurai
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Blade
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Team 2

I'll go with team 1. Nemesis's gear would tip it for me.

It's just her shields that would be the problem, but I didn't know you were giving those to her for the fight.

Without those, it basically comes down to how well Blade can do. Silver Samurai vs either would be a good fight, but he can't take both alone.

Team 2 can cut through anything, what are Zealot's and Nemesis' swords made out of?

Can her shield stop what is effectively a lightsaber?

I don't think that will be a problem, anyway. Nemesis can read movements and is likely faster than Blade. Same with Zealot.

Silver samurai is at the very least peak human, and can teleport

His sword or really anything he picks up is wrapped in a takion field capable of cutting through near anything

Z fought Midnighter for hours, stalemating him.

Wolverine > Midnighter

Originally posted by Golgo13
I don't think that will be a problem, anyway. Nemesis can read movements and is likely faster than Blade. Same with Zealot.

Nemesis can't read body movements, she isn't Batgirl. The Coda have a specific fighting style that they can use to communicate, ala Drow hand signals, but the can't read body language across the board. Zealot and Nemesis together couldn't beat Shiba, because of her body reading abilities.

Stilt, Nemisis swords are created from shards of the creation engine, they are unbreakable, but there are several instances of Kherubian steal matching them so there is little chance she will be able to break SS sword.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Silver samurai is at the very least peak human, and can teleport

His sword or really anything he picks up is wrapped in a takion field capable of cutting through near anything

Teleport ring isn't his standard equipment and he used it to flee from battles, it wasn't a part of his fighting style like in the 90's cartoon.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Nemesis can't read body movements, she isn't Batgirl. The Coda have a specific fighting style that they can use to communicate, ala Drow hand signals, but the can't read body language across the board. Zealot and Nemesis together couldn't beat Shiba, because of her body reading abilities.

Stilt, Nemisis swords are created from shards of the creation engine, they are unbreakable, but there are several instances of Kherubian steal matching them so there is little chance she will be able to break SS sword.

In Z's capability thread, Nemeis showed that she can predict movements though emotions. Unless it was stated wrong. Either way, both have enhanced stats and pretty good gear.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Stilt, Nemisis swords are created from shards of the creation engine, they are unbreakable, but there are several instances of Kherubian steal matching them so there is little chance she will be able to break SS sword.

Last time there was a confirmation of Harada using the Black Blade was during Hama's run, correct? I wonder what happened to that sword.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I don't think that will be a problem, anyway. Nemesis can read movements and is likely faster than Blade. Same with Zealot. speed feats for either?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Last time there was a confirmation of Harada using the Black Blade was during Hama's run, correct? I wonder what happened to that sword.

Yeah, then he used the honor blade for a while, and now he seemingly uses a standard katana for whatever reason.

Originally posted by Golgo13
In Z's capability thread, Nemeis showed that she can predict movements though emotions. Unless it was stated wrong. Either way, both have enhanced stats and pretty good gear.

She has empathic abilities, but she isn't a move reader.

Originally posted by Trackz
speed feats for either?

Street level standard bullet dodging more or less Trackz.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Teleport ring isn't his standard equipment and he used it to flee from battles, it wasn't a part of his fighting style like in the 90's cartoon.
Well, he did send Wolverine off a building by teleporting.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Can her shield stop what is effectively a lightsaber?
In all honestly, I think it probably could. I think she's blocked her own swords with it, but I'll check later.
Originally posted by Golgo13
In Z's capability thread, Nemeis showed that she can predict movements though emotions. Unless it was stated wrong. Either way, both have enhanced stats and pretty good gear.
Nemesis has empathic abilities, but I only recall her using them to detect potential enemies. I'll check her mini when I get back home.


srank has covered most everything else quite nicely. As I said before, this really depends on how much help Blade will be against the Coda duo. Silver Samurai could probably split against either one.

Nemesis's shields notwithstanding.

With Nemesis' shields and grenades the Coda duo should win. Otherwise it's pretty close and I don't have problem with it going either way.

Originally posted by StyleTime
In all honestly, I think it probably could. I think she's blocked her own swords with it, but I'll check later.
Nevermind. After checking, I remembered her fight with Raven incorrectly.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
With Nemesis' shields and grenades the Coda duo should win. Otherwise it's pretty close and I don't have problem with it going either way.
Sounds good to me.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Street level standard bullet dodging more or less Trackz. specific instances? or issue numbers for their best feats. admittedly I know next to nothing about the DCnU characters.