Infinity being vs Thanos with HOTU.

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The Merchant
Say the IB exists, somehow. Thanos and the IB have a battle on who is the strongest.

Diesldude
Shouldn't the supreme being be Eternal as well as omnipotent?

rotiart
So if the infinity being (going by descrip in thanks quest) was all things prior to our universe.... Who was so alone it ended its own life...

This creature was also known as nemesis

But It also was the chaos king.... Who is also said to represent the nothing that wa first present before all things came from it...

Infinity being = chaos king? = original infinity gauntlet?!

Vs TOAA who is referred to by the people of zen la was the light bringer? The first being out of the darkness??

My head blew up. Pshaw!

Sundipped
^
Never heard of the Infinity Being being tied to Nemesis.
Chaos King was said to be a aspect of Oblivion.

Galan007
Nemesis = IB.

This bio is pretty accurate:
http://www.comicvine.com/nemesis/29-68699/

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by Galan007
Nemesis = IB.

This bio is pretty accurate:
http://www.comicvine.com/nemesis/29-68699/
It maybe , but for future reference : Comicvine bios are editable by forum users on that site . Not a very credible citation of info presented imo .

Sundipped
Originally posted by Galan007
Nemesis = IB.

This bio is pretty accurate:
http://www.comicvine.com/nemesis/29-68699/

Yeah that's right. I was thinking of the Alien Entity who was also referred to as the nothingness before everything.

Mr Master
^^ AE has nothing to do with Chaos King. AE is not,
and never been the "nothingness before everything."

Chaos King has nothing to do with the Infinity Being or Nemesis.

Nemesis is the Infinity Being, but unfortunately what we saw
was a watered down version of the original monster.

Why?

Because by the time Nemesis's consciousness (Ego gem)
was united with it's power (Infinity Gauntlet)
The Infinity Gems had gained their own separate consciousness,
so when Nemesis was whole, they were all struggling for control,
making it "vulnerable,"
this, of course was a plot-device,
since there was no way anyone was defeating Nemesis.

Still,
it was able to obliterate the two Prime UniverseS of Two separate MultiverseS,
(one of which was 616)
simultaneously with a thought.

Also, a fraction of the Gems' energy was enough to create UniverseS back to back stacking them,
leading to possible Omniversal destruction.

This is monumental but the big bad apple is:

I believe a fraction of Nemesis' power remade the Omniverse on panel.

Which in-turn would mean, a fraction of the IG's power. smile

The Merchant
I thought the stacking universes thing was a FP cosmic cube?

Mr Master
Originally posted by The Merchant

I thought the stacking universes thing was a FP cosmic cube?
It's also guilty. thumb up ... And it was a nascent fractured CCU at that.

If Thanos can harness it the way it was in the Choas Engine Trilogy,
then he still doesn't have a chance against Warlock,
but that will be one hell of a battle.

That nascent Cube was Omniversal in that story.

So was Roma. (finally being portrayed to her full potential)

The Merchant
Yeah, but when did the IG almost destroy the Omniverse? I know it almost destroyed 2 multiverses.

rotiart
So mr master what was the ib. Hrm?

It was the only sentient being thus it was longer an killed itself...
Chaos king was the void. Everything else eventually sprang forth from what he was. But he was what was there

And if you go by what happened with the nemesis issues... The ego gem was supposed to bind the other gems in a way that made them even stronger then before... This nemesis would have been greater then the ig

Mr Master
Originally posted by rotiart

So mr master what was the ib. Hrm?

It was the only sentient being thus it was longer an killed itself...
Right. It was the entirety of all creation. Supreme, without peers or superiors.

Although it encompassed an entire infinite Reality, full of life,
all life was just a part of itself, so yes, it felt lonely.
Originally posted by rotiart

Chaos king was the void.
Everything else eventually sprang forth from what he was.
But he was what was there
Chaos King is nothing more than an "aspect" of Oblivion.

Oblivion has always been, (on panel & bios)
and still is the embodiment of nothingness.

Oblivion is supposedly also the "nothingness" after the prior Infinity Being's Reality,
but before the current Marvelverse.

(in-between)

In other words,
that moment of "nothingness" (after the IB collapsed)
but before the IB exploded into Eternity/Infinity.

But my good friend rot ...
the "nothingness" had nothing to do with the creation event. (big bang)
Originally posted by rotiart

And if you go by what happened with the nemesis issues... The
ego gem was supposed to bind the other gems in a way that made
them even stronger then before... This nemesis would have been greater then the ig
I don't recall ever reading that.

Reference?

KuRuPT Thanosi
Seems like a good fight to me...

Mr Master
THOTI, ... is ... it.

It doesn't get higher than that, and it has no canonical equals.

Imo, I would have to bring out classic Beyonder to find a suitable opponent.

Infinity Being would have to be amongst the next best thing.

the Darkone
Originally posted by Mr Master
THOTI, ... is ... it.

It doesn't get higher than that, and it has no canonical equals.

Imo, I would have to bring out classic Beyonder to find a suitable opponent.

Infinity Being would have to be amongst the next best thing.

Could LT challenge Infinity Being, since he represents TOAA and is notch below THOTU in power?

TheGodKiller
@MrMaster & Galan :

What do you make of this answer from Hickman regarding alternate IGs and UNs ?

http://www.formspring.me/JonathanHickman/q/375507841554872400

Cogito
That answer makes jack shit sense.

iceman24567
Hickman can suck a penis

zopzop
Originally posted by Cogito
That answer makes jack shit sense. Originally posted by iceman24567
Hickman can suck a penis
Exactly! During the Council of Reeds story arc, an alt reality Galactus had no less than 7 (some say EIGHT) alt reality Ultimate Nullifiers pointed his way. Yet in Earth/Universe X, one alt reality UN wiped alt reality Death from existence.

In 616 reality, ONE UN (616 version) made Galactus (616 version) sh|t his pants.

There's no fxxking way all these alt reality items/beings are equal in power. No way.

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