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Galactus consumed one planet for this fight.

Who wins?

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Was it earth after he ate Scott & Wanda?

Originally posted by -Pr-
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I second that..

Originally posted by carver9
Galactus consumed one planet for this fight.

Who wins?

I'll just say this, a Phoenix avatar (Rachael) 1 shotted a hungry Galactus so the Dark Phoenix version of Scott should be at least on par with a Big G who only ate 1 planet.

Wanda is irrelevant. All of her power did absolutely nothing to a host with only 1/2 of the PF.

^ Rachel didn't one shot him. There was an actual fight, one that did not look to be instantly short by any measure, as the comic kept flashing back and forth between different scenes.

big g loses

as for rachel vs big g

rachel had the advantage

Galactus wins .

Originally posted by ODG
^ Rachel didn't one shot him. There was an actual fight, one that did not look to be instantly short by any measure, as the comic kept flashing back and forth between different scenes.

Feel free to speculate all you want but the significant battle scenes were illustrated and all that was shown was a 1 shot. I wanna say Rachel no sold and evaded Galactus' attacks more than what was shown but I can't because it would be conjecture on my part.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Feel free to speculate all you want but the significant battle scenes were illustrated and all that was shown was a 1 shot. I wanna say Rachel no sold and evaded Galactus' attacks more than what was shown but I can't because it would be conjecture on my part. No, it wouldn't. You know for a fact that the battle went on for far longer than what's suggested by your scans. So don't even try to hide the context from others who haven't read the issue. It's seriously the lowest form of bullsh1t.

Phoenix Cyke wrecks him then gives up his power because it's too much.

Originally posted by ODG
No, it wouldn't. You know for a fact that the battle went on for far longer than what's suggested by your scans. So don't even try to hide the context from others who haven't read the issue. It's seriously the lowest form of bullsh1t.

No lower than some of the bs I've seen sprouted from your fingertips.

Sure you had other stuff happening (notable Brian/Kurt fight) but every time the fight sequence was revisited, Rachel only delivers 1 shot & is not depicted on the offensive at all aside from that but Galactus was very active. That was the course of the whole fight but seriously, I don't care past the insults.

Originally posted by Sundipped
No lower than some of the bs I've seen sprouted from your fingertips.

Sure you had other stuff happening (notable Brian/Kurt fight) but every time the fight sequence was revisited, Rachel only delivers 1 shot & is not depicted on the offensive at all aside from that but Galactus was very active. That was the course of the whole fight but seriously, I don't care past the insults. I don't recall blatantly lying about the context of a fight and then trying to cover up that context when it's pointed out several times. Rachel did not one shot Galactus at all. Don't try to downplay what a blatant liar you are being about this fight. Brian and Kurt fighting isn't the only thing that happens while the Rachel/Galactus fight goes on. Galactus' fight with Rachel takes an entire issue to finish. And during that issue, interspliced with that fight, are scenes cutting away to events in Britain that take place over (at least) several hours. And, no, these aren't flashbacks or flashforwards. The other scenes on Earth are occurring concurrently with the actual fight because every time it cuts from the fight or back to the fight it says, "Meanwhile."

Let's just visit the entire fight so I can limit the amount of time I spend dealing with your blatant lying. Here is where the fight begins where Rachel confronts Galactus and blows up his converter:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_RachelGrey01.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_RachelGrey02.jpg

The scene then directly cuts "light years away on planet Earth" which shows that they're occurring simultaneously along Rachel's fight, where Kurt and Brian have their sparring session at night in the caverns under Braddock Manor. How do we know that the time-frame remains concurrent for these two events? Because the comic directly cuts back to where Rachel and Galactus' fight rages on with a "Meanwhile..." in the top left corner of that page. So, yes, Rachel and been fighting Galactus the entire time Kurt and Brian had been sparring:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Rachel01.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Rachel02.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Rachel03.jpg "Meanwhile..." http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_RachelGrey03.jpg

But it doesn't end there, as the comic makes its second cut to yet another scene on Earth with Micromax to what we assume is that same night from Kurt's and Brian's sparring session and not the next night. As all this is going on, has Rachel ended her fight against Galactus? No. Because the fight once again cuts back to Rachel and Galactus with another "Meanwhile..." in the top left corner of that page signifying their battle has been raging on the entire time we see other events play out on Earth:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Rachel04.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Rachel05.jpg "Meanwhile..." http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_RachelGrey04.jpg

Here is where the crux of my issue with your embellishing finally arises. As the pattern re-establishes itself, we've now got another scene on Earth with Kitty Pryde under Braddock manor (apparently that same night). It cuts back to Rachel and Galactus yet again with another "Meanwhile..." in the top left corner of that page, where we finally see the "1 shot" that you insist Rachel delivers to Galactus:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Rachel06.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Rachel07.jpg "Meanwhile..." http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_RachelGrey05.jpg

But is that even the end of the fight? NO. It isn't. How do we know that? Because the comic immediately shifts back to Earth except now it's daytime in another part of England where Brian and Meggan are patching things up after Meggan was upset the night before (presumably) during the training session. And that's assuming this isn't days later after the training session, which is probable since Brian mentions he's been "trying to pluck up the courage the last two days" to propose and that Meggan "wishes could stay more than week" allotted to them. And it's only after all these events have ended throughout the entire issue, that we finally see the outcome of Rachel's battle with Galactus when it cuts back with yet.... ANOTHER "Meanwhile...":

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Rachel08.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Rachel09.jpg "Meanwhile..." http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_RachelGrey06.jpg

So how in the name of Zeus' bunghole, do you get off on trying to pass this fight off as Rachel one-shotting Galactus? Their fight lasted hours, if not days.

Just because you don't see every attack that Rachel Phoenix laid on Galactus doesn't mean in any way that they didn't have an extended fight. Unless you think for hours on end, Rachel never throws out more than "1 shot." And don't try to pretend you haven't done this in other threads. The blatant lying and misinformation you peddled here (especially after I called you out on what you were doing) is nothing short of criminal. I'm quite literally disgusted. As much as anybody can be here on KMC, anyway. Such slimy garbage, man.

The Phoenix Cyclops was not anything impressive actually. I was a bit disappointed with how they ultimately portrayed him. The writer even specifically called this Dark Phoenix a threat of "GLOBAL" proportions.

When Jean was Dark Phoenix, she was out eating stars for snacks, and destroyed a solar system without even noticing or caring, and here we have Scott making volcanos erupt and pulling an Adele with setting fire to the rain.

Destroying a solar system without even intending to vs Making a couple of natural disaster occur that didn't even deal much damage to one planet.

Seems like Galactus the planet eater still trumps this version of Dark Phoenix to me.

Anything involving Earth directly, gets a huge nerf.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Rachel didn't one shot him. There was an actual fight, one that did not look to be instantly short by any measure, as the comic kept flashing back and forth between different scenes. Wasnt the actual Phoenix Force in control of Rachels body (while Rachels mind was healing)... so this was the actual PF against Galactus, not Rachel Grey

^ Basically, yes.

Originally posted by Glorificus
The Phoenix Cyclops was not anything impressive actually. I was a bit disappointed with how they ultimately portrayed him. The writer even specifically called this Dark Phoenix a threat of "GLOBAL" proportions.

When Jean was Dark Phoenix, she was out eating stars for snacks, and destroyed a solar system without even noticing or caring, and here we have Scott making volcanos erupt and pulling an Adele with setting fire to the rain.

Destroying a solar system without even intending to vs Making a couple of natural disaster occur that didn't even deal much damage to one planet.

Seems like Galactus the planet eater still trumps this version of Dark Phoenix to me.

I just see it as a result of that cosmic conflicts largely have changed in the way they are written, for instance 10 years ago the conflict between Galactus and the Celestials or Odin and Galactus would have been portrayed as destroying Galaxies shaking universes blah blah, yet today we here nothing, unless the destruction have a purpose in the comic it's largely written out or left out. But that is just my take on it.

^ Of course, then there's Galactus vs Scrier and the Other. And Chaos War. And Annihilation. And Thanos Imperative.

The Phoenix Force loses as usual...

Originally posted by ODG
^ Of course, then there's Galactus vs Scrier and the Other. And Chaos War. And Annihilation. And Thanos Imperative.

Where with the exception of the Chaos war, the destruction portrayed in the various sitautions served a purpose. Death destroyed the Canceruniverse effectively ending the threat to the 616 Reality (the battle between multiple Abstract and the Galactus Engine didn't produce galaxy shaking aftershocks), Galactus served with his Galaxy wide attack to end the threat of the Annihilation wave, and the battle between Scrier, The other and Galactus was in order to show Oblivion schemings. Which is why I initially said that we don't have the large aftershocks for the sake of them alone any longer, like it was the case previously. It doesn't make the characters any less powerful they are merely being portrayed in a different way. But again that is my take on it.

Originally posted by ODG
I don't recall blatantly lying about the context of a fight and then trying to cover up that context when it's pointed out several times. Rachel did not one shot Galactus at all. Don't try to downplay what a blatant liar you are being about this fight. Brian and Kurt fighting isn't the only thing that happens while the Rachel/Galactus fight goes on. Galactus' fight with Rachel takes an entire issue to finish. And during that issue, interspliced with that fight, are scenes cutting away to events in Britain that take place over (at least) several hours. And, no, these aren't flashbacks or flashforwards. The other scenes on Earth are occurring concurrently with the actual fight because every time it cuts from the fight or back to the fight it says, "Meanwhile."

Let's just visit the entire fight so I can limit the amount of time I spend dealing with your blatant lying. Here is where the fight begins where Rachel confronts Galactus and blows up his converter:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_RachelGrey01.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_RachelGrey02.jpg

The scene then directly cuts "light years away on planet Earth" which shows that they're occurring simultaneously along Rachel's fight, where Kurt and Brian have their sparring session at night in the caverns under Braddock Manor. How do we know that the time-frame remains concurrent for these two events? Because the comic directly cuts back to where Rachel and Galactus' fight rages on with a "Meanwhile..." in the top left corner of that page. So, yes, Rachel and been fighting Galactus the entire time Kurt and Brian had been sparring:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Rachel01.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Rachel02.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Rachel03.jpg "Meanwhile..." http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_RachelGrey03.jpg

But it doesn't end there, as the comic makes its second cut to yet another scene on Earth with Micromax to what we assume is that same night from Kurt's and Brian's sparring session and not the next night. As all this is going on, has Rachel ended her fight against Galactus? No. Because the fight once again cuts back to Rachel and Galactus with another "Meanwhile..." in the top left corner of that page signifying their battle has been raging on the entire time we see other events play out on Earth:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Rachel04.jpg http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Rachel05.jpg "Meanwhile..." http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_RachelGrey04.jpg

I'll just take a page out of your book and say "I don't care" how long the fight was so you can keep your extended post essays. If you don't agree then fine but most importantly, save the hypocritical criticism.
My view of Galactus tiring himself out and succumbing/Rachel only being shown actually attacking on one panel throughout is subjective.
So you don't agree, good. That is all.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Anything involving Earth directly, gets a huge nerf.

Indeed

Originally posted by Sundipped
I'll just take a page out of your book and say "I don't care" how long the fight was so you can keep your extended post essays. If you don't agree then fine but most importantly, save the hypocritical criticism.
My view of Galactus tiring himself out and succumbing/Rachel only being shown actually attacking on one panel throughout is subjective.
So you don't agree, good. That is all. It's not that I don't agree with you. It's that I called you a liar.

And you've done it every time you've mentioned this fight across numerous threads trying to make this out to be some short easy fight that ended with one shot and that somehow that can be held against Galactus in fights of this magnitude.

But I imagine that isn't going to happen anymore, will it? Originally posted by Utrigita
Where with the exception of the Chaos war, the destruction portrayed in the various sitautions served a purpose. Death destroyed the Canceruniverse effectively ending the threat to the 616 Reality (the battle between multiple Abstract and the Galactus Engine didn't produce galaxy shaking aftershocks), Galactus served with his Galaxy wide attack to end the threat of the Annihilation wave, and the battle between Scrier, The other and Galactus was in order to show Oblivion schemings. Which is why I initially said that we don't have the large aftershocks for the sake of them alone any longer, like it was the case previously. It doesn't make the characters any less powerful they are merely being portrayed in a different way. But again that is my take on it. I don't see the distinction you're making. But, whatever it is, I just wanted to remind you that the scale of destruction you're reminiscing about in fights at the cosmic level remains at the absurd universe, galaxy and planetary busting levels. How you might treat them differently is your opinion and you've a right to it. Originally posted by Bentley
The Phoenix Force loses as usual... Dark Phoenix Cyclops showed no ability to continually amp himself off the "sea of life yet unborn," which is the only reason the Phoenix defeated a hungry Galactus after hours of fighting. And here, Galactus isn't even hungry. So... yea.

just going by cyclops' showing, galactus really doesn't have to try too hard to phuck shit up, even strictly telepathically this goes to galactus.

Originally posted by ODG
I don't see the distinction you're making. But, whatever it is, I just wanted to remind you that the scale of destruction you're reminiscing about in fights at the cosmic level remains at the absurd universe, galaxy and planetary busting levels. How you might treat them differently is your opinion and you've a right to it.

Cool, btw. thanks for showing the Galactus vs Phoenix fight in the "full" length I actually believed that the only fight between them was in those scans and nothing besides that.