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Thor (B&T version), with Power gem

versus


1. Team DC (DoS version): Superman, Blue Beetle, Guy Gardner, Bloodwynd, Guardian, Supergirl, Booster Gold, Maxima, Fire, Ice

2. JLA (DoS version) + DoS Doomsday

3. Annihilators: Gladiator, Quasar, Ronan, Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill, Ikon

4. Defenders (The End version): Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Genis-Vel, Namor, Hulk, Thanos

5. Defenders + Offenders (HNM versions): Hulk, Namor, Dr. Strange, Silver Surfer, Terrax, Red Hulk, Tiger Shark, Baron Mordo, Terrax

6. Team B&T: Infinity Watch+ Silver Surfer+ Dr. Strange+ Beta Ray Bill

7. Team DC (OWAW versions): Superman, Doomsday, Steel, Martian Manhunter, GL Rayner, Superboy, Maxima, Aquaman, 2 Imperiex Probes

Rules: Teams are in the midst of battle and suddenly transported away to a battle arena similar to War World. Heroes and villains agree to temporary alliance. Thor starts out at the same power level as after he first aquired the PG, but subconciously taps into it, increasing in power as time progresses, just like in B&T. No stealing the PG, no BFR. Brute force and raw firepower only.

Stops hard at 6

Against the team he raped lol?

Is he healed between rounds?

Assuming he retains the power gains (due to the PG amping him) throughout each battle, he either stops at 7 or clears.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Against the team he raped lol? That isn't the team he raped. He raped Bill and Surfer both individually then when they teamed up. He raped an incomplete IW with Surfer, Strange and Maxam, but he never faced the entire IW, Surfer, Strange, and Bill at the same time.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Is he healed between rounds? Yes

Was B&T Thor resistant to mind-phuckery? If not then he might be in trouble at #1.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
That isn't the team he raped. He raped Bill and Surfer both individually then when they teamed up. He raped an incomplete IW with Surfer, Strange and Maxam, but he never faced the entire IW, Surfer, Strange, and Bill at the same time.


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he faced Maxam, Drax, Moon Dragon, Strange, Warlock, and Surfer. Bill at that point would pretty much be a non factor. Valkyrie didn't add much at all either.

Originally posted by Galan007
Was B&T Thor resistant to mind-phuckery? If not then he might be in trouble at #1.

if he's ready for it yeah

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsInfinityWatch04.jpg

Originally posted by Damborgson
Against the team he raped lol?

Yeah I loled at that too.
Stops at 7.

Originally posted by Damborgson
if he's ready for it yeah

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsInfinityWatch04.jpg Cool.

#7 sounds about right, then.

Originally posted by Damborgson
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/vsInfinity.jpg

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he faced Maxam, Drax, Moon Dragon, Strange, Warlock, and Surfer. Bill at that point would pretty much be a non factor. Valkyrie didn't add much at all either. Nice scans, still doesn't prove he could take the IW, Strange, Surfer and Bill at the same time. The IW never engaged Thor as a complete team. Thanos had him neutralized before the rest of the IW got there.

Originally posted by Galan007
Was B&T Thor resistant to mind-phuckery? If not then he might be in trouble at #1. Good enough to trick Moondragon and her mind gem.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Nice scans, still doesn't prove he could take the IW, Strange, Surfer and Bill at the same time. The IW never engaged Thor as a complete team. Thanos had him neutralized before the rest of the IW got there.

Yes it does. Lol.

He beat Strange, Warlock, Drax, Surfer, Maxam, all at at the same time. Adding Beta Ray Bill would've added another victim.

Who was missing that didn't make that team complete?

Thanos restrained Thor, then the same team Thor beat the shit out of showed up. After which Thanos admits he'd be to much for them if he broke free.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Yes it does. Lol.

He beat Strange, Warlock, Drax, Surfer, Maxam, all at at the same time. Adding Beta Ray Bill would've added another victim.

Who was missing that didn't make that team complete?

Thanos restrained Thor, then the same team Thor beat the shit out of showed up. After which Thanos admits he'd be to much for them if he broke free. The complete IW is Warlock, Pip, Gamora, Drax, Moondragon and Thanos. Maxam was just along for the ride. He never faced more than four IW members at the same time. It's a moot point anyway, he would get to 5 and that's it. Based on feats Rulk would probably solo.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
The complete IW is Warlock, Pip, Gamora, Drax, Moondragon and Thanos. Maxam was just along for the ride. He never faced more than four IW members at the same time. It's a moot point anyway, he would get to 5 and that's it. Based on feats Rulk would probably solo.




take a peek at who was facing him:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/vsInfinity.jpg

He took them all on. Pip did nothing, and the others were dismantled.

Rulk isn't soloing B&T+PG Thor. He'd be lucky if he came out of it with his head on.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Based on feats Rulk would probably solo. You might have forgotten that Rulk got destroyed by Parker Robbins w/ the Power Gem.

B & T Thor w/Power Gem would kill Rulk.

Originally posted by ODG
You might have forgotten that Rulk got destroyed by Parker Robbins w/ the Power Gem. Irrelevant, the OP stipulated Hulk No More version. Hood wasn't in HNM. If Rulk can siphon the Power Cosmic to amp himself there's no reason he can't to the same with the PG.

Would he do that before or after Thor put Mjolnir through his head?

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Irrelevant, the OP stipulated Hulk No More version. Hood wasn't in HNM. If Rulk can siphon the Power Cosmic to amp himself there's no reason he can't to the same with the PG.

Surfer's Power Cosmic =/= the Power Gem.

And even Loebforce Rulk was nearly killed by Thor before.

Originally posted by Damborgson



take a peek at who was facing him:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/vsInfinity.jpg

He took them all on. Pip did nothing, and the others were dismantled.

Rulk isn't soloing B&T+PG Thor. He'd be lucky if he came out of it with his head on. I stand corrected, he never faced more than five members of the IW, that's still not the full six member roster.

Moon dragon was already a non factor. They were all non factors really. This is how the strongest among them did:


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/vsInfinity7.jpg

Originally posted by Damborgson
Moon dragon was already a non factor. They were all non factors really. This is how the strongest among them did:


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/vsInfinity7.jpg You scan doesn't include the most powerful IW member, Thanos.

Thanos agreed Thor would be to much for the team when he broke free from the force block.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Surfer's Power Cosmic =/= the Power Gem.

And even Loebforce Rulk was nearly killed by Thor before. Two problems with that. Rulk wasn't amped with the PC at the time and it didn't happen in HNM.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Irrelevant, the OP stipulated Hulk No More version. Hood wasn't in HNM. If Rulk can siphon the Power Cosmic to amp himself there's no reason he can't to the same with the PG. Actually there's no reason to assume that's even possible. The Power Gem is power incarnate. It's never been drained nor have any of its users ever been drained.

Your no limit fallacy concerning Rulk's absorption abilities isn't any better (indeed it's much worse) than a no limit fallacy concerning the Power Gem's on-panel limitless power and trait of feedbacking a foe's power back onto them.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Thanos agreed Thor would be to much for the team when he broke free from the force block.
True, but only if they allowed him to tap the power gem long enough to free himself. Had they released the forcefield before that he would be less powerful and faced with the combined power of all six Watch memebers plus Bill, Surfer, and Strange.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
True, but only if they allowed him to tap the power gem long enough to free himself. Had they released the forcefield before that he would be less powerful and faced with the combined power of all six Watch memebers plus Bill, Surfer, and Strange.

Prove it. Thanos already saw it in his best interest if he restrained Thor instead of fighting him head on. Does that mean he would automatically lose? Of course not since, no one rational wanted to fight that psychotic Thor who Thanos fought. The other memebers there however were pretty insignificant by that point, and Thanos wasn't liking his chances either, that much was true.

Originally posted by ODG
Actually there's no reason to assume that's even possible. The Power Gem is power incarnate. It's never been drained nor have any of its users ever been drained.

Your no limit fallacy concerning Rulk's absorption abilities isn't any better (indeed it's much worse) than a no limit fallacy concerning the Power Gem's on-panel limitless power and trait of feedbacking a foe's power back onto them. HNM Rulk had just enough PIS to make it entirely possible that he could tap the PG as well. Writers intent seemed pretty obvious.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
HNM Rulk had just enough PIS to make it entirely possible that he could tap the PG as well. Writers intent seemed pretty obvious. Rulk's feats suggest no such thing. Particularly in the context of all the writers that have written about the Infinity Gems.

Gamora did pretty good.

She did. Thor failed to lay a hand on her.

^ Which means she clearly is a far less formidable opponent than Wolverine is and would lose to him despite him getting roflstomped by an unamped Thor.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Prove it. Thanos already saw it in his best interest if he restrained Thor instead of fighting him head on. Does that mean he would automatically lose? Of course not since, no one rational wanted to fight that psychotic Thor who Thanos fought. The other memebers there however were pretty insignificant by that point, and Thanos wasn't liking his chances either, that much was true. I don't have a scanner, but on page 6 of Warlock Chronicles (B&T #11) Thanos states that Thor draws more power with each passing second. On the last page of the same issue Thanos also stated that it would take almost two hours for Thor to reach the power level required to free himself. In B&T #10 Thanos doesn't say it's in his best interest, just that he grew weary, which is basically like saying he's bored. Thanos was fighting Thor to a stalemate on his own, the addition of Drax, Warlock, Surfer and Bill should be enough to tip the scales against a Thor that hasn't been allowed enough time to fully amp himself with the PG.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
I don't have a scanner, but on page 6 of Warlock Chronicles (B&T #11) Thanos states that Thor draws more power with each passing second. On the last page of the same issue Thanos also stated that it would take almost two hours for Thor to reach the power level required to free himself. In B&T #10 Thanos doesn't say it's in his best interest, just that he grew weary, which is basically like saying he's bored. Thanos was fighting Thor to a stalemate on his own, the addition of Drax, Warlock, Surfer and Bill should be enough to tip the scales against a Thor that hasn't been allowed enough time to fully amp himself with the PG.

That just means he was gaining more power. Not that he didn't already have enough to win.

Nor did I say he did. But lets not kid ourselves, Thanos didn't want to go on because sooner or later, Thor was going to come out on top. Not that he was bored. He picked an interesting time to "grow weary" anyway, since Thor had just drawn blood from him.

Not with they way they were fighting. Thor was tearing through them like a force of nature.

Didn't Thanos stop him? So he stops at 4

Per the OP: Originally posted by Brockalizer
Brute force and raw firepower only.

Originally posted by ODG
Rulk's feats suggest no such thing. Particularly in the context of all the writers that have written about the Infinity Gems. If PC=PG, if he could drain the PC why not the PG too? IMHO Rulk+HNM level PIS= anything is possible.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
You said it yourself PC=PG, if he could drain the PC why not the PG too? IMHO Rulk+HNM level PIS= anything is possible. When did I equate the Power Cosmic with the Power Gem?

There has been nothing ever done on panel to suggest any of the Gems can be siphoned in power.

Originally posted by Damborgson
That just means he was gaining more power. Not that he didn't already have enough to win.

Nor did I say he did. But lets not kid ourselves, Thanos didn't want to go on because sooner or later, Thor was going to come out on top. Not that he was bored. He picked an interesting time to "grow weary" anyway, since Thor had just drawn blood from him.

Not with they way they were fighting. Thor was tearing through them like a force of nature. It is true that Thor was able to easily handle various Watch members, as well as Bill and Surfer individually and in small groups, but he NEVER faced the combined might of Bill, Surfer, Drax, Thanos, and Warlock. Surfer and Bill were able to put him down long enough for a forum win on their own. As long as he isn't allowed enough time to fully tap the gem I don't see why all of them together couldn't do the same. Using Gamora's time gem strategically they should be able to pull it off.

Originally posted by ODG
When did I equate the Power Cosmic with the Power Gem? I corrected that, I had you and Jake mixed up for a second. My bad.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Surfer and Bill were able to put him down long enough for a forum win on their own. He didn't have the Power Gem then. And they ultimately lost.

Originally posted by ODG
He didn't have the Power Gem then. And they ultimately lost. I said long enough for a forum win, not a total victory. Speaking of forum win as opposed to total victory in B&T 10 Thanos was nearly able to put Thor down long enough for a forum win, by himself.

^ Yea but that wasn't Thor w/ PG. Thor hadn't obtained the PG when he fought Surfer and BRB. He didn't have it either when he beat Warlock and Surfer.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Which means she clearly is a far less formidable opponent than Wolverine is and would lose to him despite him getting roflstomped by an unamped Thor. Srank induced off topic rant?

Originally posted by Damborgson
Srank induced off topic rant? Not so much "induced." More like "uncontrollably ironic flashbacks compelled."

Yeah that sounds about right.

Stops at team 4. If he passes 4 he'll probably get to 7.

Stops hard at 7.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
There has been nothing ever done on panel to suggest any of the Gems can be siphoned in power. Correct me if I'm wrong but when Thanos collected the gems the first time, before IG, didn't he siphon the gems power for one of his weapons?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
There has been nothing ever done on panel to suggest any of the Gems can be siphoned in power.

Didn't Thanos do that though...

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Didn't Thanos do that though... Do you got the scans for that?

the first time he collected the gems it was to blow up every star in a galaxy or something similar. Don't remember anything about siphoning the power so much as using it.

If Thor keeps growing in power during each fight, and isn't reset to original levels, he should clear this. Even Thanos admitted that when he broke out of the stasis block they were completely screwed and would be helpless to stop him or something.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
B & T Thor w/Power Gem would kill Rulk.
Not the same Rulk that owned him initially.

Has serious problems with 1 but stops hard at 2

Why wouldn't he?

There's no evidence that Rulk could absorb the energies of the Power Gem and we've seen on panel evidence of Thor being able to, per Rulk's own admission, nearly kill him as well as the fact that the most n00biest PG wielder yet, Parker Robins, beat the shit out of him.

Originally posted by h1a8
Has serious problems with 1 but stops hard at 2 I love your sense of humor, or were you serious?