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Ive heard ppl say ock can beat hulk. But how hulk just has to toss him. Or rip them tenticles of of ocks back.

Hulk would waste him.

Originally posted by Shabazz916
Ive heard ppl say ock can beat hulk. But how hulk just has to toss him. Or rip them tenticles of of ocks back.

Ock had the indestructible adamantium harness when he beat him... and he got defeated in a rematch anyway.

Ock has beaten merged hulk but that's an outlier. Any hulk in general would beat the phuck outta ock.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Ock had the indestructible adamantium harness when he beat him... and he got defeated in a rematch anyway.

But the harness wouldnt stop hulk from ripping out the arms because its connected to his body

Then you'd just have a bloody torso with Ock's harness attached to it.

Yeah, the man would be pretty much torn in half... missing a chunk of his torso which would still be attached to the harness.

But Hulk refrains from killing most of the time.

Hulk stomps. Heck a teenage Colossus manhandled the Doc

Ock loses hard

Originally posted by Shabazz916
the harness wouldnt stop hulk from ripping out the arms because its connected to his body


Doesn't work like that, guys.

Unless it's been changed without my knowledge, only Doc Ock's ORIGINAL arms were grafted to his body. And the authorities found a safe, surgical way to remove THOSE arms from Ock relatively early in his career. If you look at a few of the older Spider-man stories from the 1970s, in fact, you'll actually see Ock outfitted as any other normal man.
Then as part of the story progression, usually after he's been confronted by Spider-man or ready to break from jail, the arms come, mentally controlled by Ock, and spring him or attack his enemies.

He actually keeps, or used to keep, extra sets of harnesses around for backup or to do his bidding by "remote" (telepathic control).

One of the most famous incidents of the above occurred when Otto went against Iron Man. Note in this attachment of their first round end fighting scene, Ock simply holds Iron Man with his own standard set of metal arms while a 2nd harness unit rips Iron Man's suit off of him.

Note, by the way, the parallel of Iron Man's suit being ripped off to what you're actually proposing Hulk would do. Tony himself is not truly hurt just by the mere fact of that suit being torn apart because he himself is not part of that suit. Ock, in the Hulk encounter you're theorizing, would be even less so.

Originally posted by Shabazz916
I've heard people say Ock can beat Hulk. But how?
Hulk just has to toss him.
Or rip tentacles off of Ock's .

It's important to remember that characters don't exhibit the same behavior from decade to decade, and often don't even share the same physical properties with later incarnations.

In Hulk's case, it's significant that Hulk was NOT regularly given to using the thunderclap manuevers we seem to see in every other showing on our modern KMC boards. Today's World War Hulk, having that as his bread-and-butter? He'd give Ock a round of applause from the get go. And back Ock would go to jail.

But the Hulk of the 90s era or thereabouts wasn't in that practice.

As for physical properties, the Hulk of yesteryear was less strong than World War Hulk. And Ock's tentacles then were adamantium, the most durable metal known to exist.

And as I've pointed out earlier today in the Ock versus Lizard thread, anyone lacking a ranged attack would, by default, find it VERY tough going against the good Doctor.


But here, besides page 1768 of the Character Ownage thread on these boards, it's easier just to show you what happened:

Hulk versus Doctor Octopus. Hulk tries a sneak attack ...

Hulk versus Doctor Octopus. Scan 3.

Hulk versus Doctor Octopus. Scan 4 of 6.

Hulk versus Doctor Octopus. Scan 5 of 6.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hulk was "holding back"

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/hulkvsdcock1.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/hulkvsdcock2.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/hulkvsdcock3.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/hulkvsdcock4.jpghttp://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/hulkvsdcock5.jpg

I don't know about "holding back", but Hulk did NOT make use of his ranged "thunderclap" attack in this first encounter.

He was also in the air in that first encounter, so Hulk did not have the chance to pull a disoriented Ock toward him and into striking range before Ock could react.

Nothing would have changed if Vegas Hulk had been in the same position as he were in the first encounter.



Hulk versus Doctor Octopus. Scan 6 of 6.


(Note again that a full scan of the whole comic page appears on page 1768 of the character ownage thread.)

It's worth pointing out that Frank Castle does NOT believe Hulk when he says he held back against Ock the last time.

It's also, though, again worth noting that Hulk did not use any ranged attack against Ock in the first encounter. He was caught in the air, had nothing to apply his strength effectively against, and no means to stop the blows raining on him with impunity.

Ock explained as much during that encounter ...

Hulk.

Iirc, in a Sensational She Hulk comic, merged/Professor Hulk was put down by a 20000 volt shock.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Doesn't work like that, guys.

Unless it's been changed without my knowledge, only Doc Ock's ORIGINAL arms were grafted to his body. And the authorities found a safe, surgical way to remove THOSE arms from Ock relatively early in his career. If you look at a few of the older Spider-man stories from the 1970s, in fact, you'll actually see Ock outfitted as any other normal man.
Then as part of the story progression, usually after he's been confronted by Spider-man or ready to break from jail, the arms come, mentally controlled by Ock, and spring him or attack his enemies.

He actually keeps, or used to keep, extra sets of harnesses around for backup or to do his bidding by "remote" (telepathic control).

One of the most famous incidents of the above occurred when Otto went against Iron Man. Note in this attachment of their first round end fighting scene, Ock simply holds Iron Man with his own standard set of metal arms while a 2nd harness unit rips Iron Man's suit off of him.

Note, by the way, the parallel of Iron Man's suit being ripped off to what you're actually proposing Hulk would do. Tony himself is not truly hurt just by the mere fact of that suit being torn apart because he himself is not part of that suit. Ock, in the Hulk encounter you're theorizing, would be even less so.

what im sayn is it doesn't matter how ocks are attached to him. if hulk tugs at them they are coming out of his back easily... and if hulk is on the ground and ock grabs him hulk can easily slam him all over the place because ock isn't heavy enough for the hulk not to pick him up

Well literally speaking the fight depends on distance. If oct has his human body far enough away that a thunder clap doesn't get him (or hulk is too dumb to throw a coffee table...) then oct can win. His arms are fast enough to tag someone as quick as Spider-Man so oct wins some
But once hulk is inside that range the fight changes and oct loses some

Originally posted by rotiart
Well literally speaking the fight depends on distance. If oct has his human body far enough away that a thunder clap doesn't get him (or hulk is too dumb to throw a coffee table...) then oct can win. His arms are fast enough to tag someone as quick as Spider-Man so oct wins some
But once hulk is inside that range the fight changes and oct loses some

Oct doesn't stand a chance against Hulk. Not a chance at all. You can add 10 more octs and you would get the same results.

Hulk 10/10