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Primary Adamantium
Diana Bracers
Captain America shield
Mljonir
The Destroyer Armor
Classic Mangog skin
Kyle best shields

Please rank them in order.

Kyle's best shields? Switch that with Brainiac's 13's force field.

Ah my boi Carver.

You do sport that sig well.

Almost...too well...

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Ah my boi Carver.

You do sport that sig well.

Almost...too well...



I think this one is permanent bro.

lol

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lol

So if the Hulk ripped the Destroyer arm off, would you be surprised?

Originally posted by carver9
So if the Hulk ripped the Destroyer arm off, would you be surprised?

I'd be surprised Marvel let you write a comic, yeah.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'd be surprised Marvel let you write a comic, yeah.

http://www.comicdom.gr/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Greg_Pak-300x225.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Primary Adamantium
Diana Bracers
Captain America shield
Mljonir
The Destroyer Armor
Classic Mangog skin
Kyle best shields

Please rank them in order.

Cap's shield
Primary adamantium
Mjolnir/Destroyer armor
Diana's bracers
Mangog's skin
Kyle's shields

Originally posted by CosmicComet
http://www.comicdom.gr/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Greg_Pak-300x225.jpg

Pak's wanking had some semblance of storyline and development for characters. And his wanking was thorough in that he actually was well versed in Hulk's history before building up to Heart of the Monster, which was basically his final stroke (pause).

A "Carver9" run of Incredible Hulk would be the death knell for the character.

Carver's run would be something like Loeb's Rulk on roids.

His Gladiator back up after the comic would be even worse.

Fortunately he never leaves his mom's basement, so Marvel won't hire him.

Originally posted by carver9
So if the Hulk ripped the Destroyer arm off, would you be surprised? just not gonna happen on a comic

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
His Gladiator back up after the comic would be even worse.

Lol...

I remember those days where me and you use to be like Wolverine and Colossus. What happened to those days Jake?

no sign of Mangog's hide ever being damaged. Even against Odin.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...

I remember those days where me and you use to be like Wolverine and Colossus. What happened to those days Jake?

I can save you, but only if you let me.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cap's shield
Primary adamantium
Mjolnir/Destroyer armor
Diana's bracers
Mangog's skin
Kyle's shields
Among those, there is only one thing that's never been broken even by skygather level beings and that's diana's bracers. Cap's shield got broken like paper by Serpent and mjolnir has been cleaved in half by destroyer and Perrikus' scythe.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Among those, there is only one thing that's never been broken even by skygather level beings and that's diana's bracers. Cap's shield got broken like paper by Serpent and mjolnir has been cleaved in half by destroyer and Perrikus' scythe. Mangog's hide has NEVER been broken. Even against THE skyfather. Even in the second Mangog appearance, Odin slashes Mangog with ZERO result.

Well, there was ONE result. That is that Odin got close enough for Mangog to pick up in one hand, carry around like a helpless doll, until he throws him down so hard, Odin was ko.

So, there was that result.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Mangog's hide has NEVER been broken. Even against THE skyfather. Even in the second Mangog appearance, Odin slashes Mangog with ZERO result.

Well, there was ONE result. That is that Odin got close enough for Mangog to pick up in one hand, carry around like a helpless doll, until he throws him down so hard, Odin was ko.

So, there was that result.
Wolverine disagrees.

Classic Mangog =/= Current Mangog

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wolverine disagrees. that was jobber mangog, not classic

can you name the herald level guy wolverine cant cut?

Just gonna leave this here...

http://i.imgur.com/jFX8O.jpg

Classic Mangog would be first followed by Diana's bracers. The destroyer armor could also be up there depending on who animates it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Just gonna leave this here...

http://i.imgur.com/jFX8O.jpg


Hahahahahahahaha...

Originally posted by carver9
Primary Adamantium
Diana Bracers
Captain America shield
Mljonir
The Destroyer Armor
Classic Mangog skin
Kyle best shields

Please rank them in order. Reminds me of the question I posted in Comic Book Questions a while back...Originally posted by Mindship
Not including Hulk's purple pants, what are the 3 most indestructible items used regularly by a herald-level character or below? Just as examples: Wonder Woman's lasso, Cap's shield, Surfer's board.

>>> Is there any item which has never been damaged, not in the least? <<< ...and never got a response to.

Wonder Woman bracers never been damaged.

Merci, Carver.

Hulk is weakest

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Classic Mangog =/= Current Mangog

You're right, modern one was amped, as stated on panel.

Originally posted by Mindship
Merci, Carver.

Word of advice: don't believe everything carver says.

He might be right about this one, I'm not a big dc fan, but it'd be much better to ask some expert/semi-expert.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Word of advice: don't believe everything carver says.

He might be right about this one, I'm not a big dc fan, but it'd be much better to ask some expert/semi-expert. I hear ya. But I think I've been around KMC long enough (I hope so, anyway) to have gotten a good sense of who actually knows what, who BS's, etc. At the very least, I thank Carver for his input, being he's the only one who addressed my question (after I whined in general).

Originally posted by Mindship
I hear ya. But I think I've been around KMC long enough (I hope so, anyway) to have gotten a good sense of who actually knows what, who BS's, etc. At the very least, I thank Carver for his input, being he's the only one who addressed my question (after I whined in general).

You've been around here very long, true. It's just that recently he had a few screw-ups you might have not seen that misled some members.

I think the bracers were broken in at least one Elsewords story (but that obviously doesn't count). Other than that, Rage's been telling me about an instance when it was stated they wouldn't withstand another strike from Superman or something. It isn't saying much though, same has been said about Cap's shield and Mandarin...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You've been around here very long, true. It's just that recently he had a few screw-ups you might have not seen that misled some members.

I think the bracers were broken in at least one Elsewords story (but that obviously doesn't count). Other than that, Rage's been telling me about an instance when it was stated they wouldn't withstand another strike from Superman or something. It isn't saying much though, same has been said about Cap's shield and Mandarin... "Indestructible" artifacts have been a staple of comics since nearly the beginning, only to have some (albeit, extraordinary) events show them to be otherwise. I was curious if anything had stayed true to its claim of being indestructible, a property I sometimes treat (erroneously, it would seem) as an "abstract" in and of itself.

Also, like many, I like to know what the "ultimates" are, eg, who's the strongest, the fastest, etc. I find this helps me to organize, if you will, so much comic info.

Bracers, I don't even think they ever were broken but then again idk if the worse punishment it withstood is greater than other things like cap's sheild or primary adamantium.

Originally posted by carver9
Primary Adamantium
Diana Bracers
Captain America shield
Mljonir
The Destroyer Armor
Classic Mangog skin
Kyle best shields

Please rank them in order.

Diana bracers
Primary adamantium
Destroyer
Caps shield
Mjolnir
Mangog

And then there's H1

hulks pants>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all of the above

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk could damage anything if he's pissed enough.

except his pants,

Kyle.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Mangog's hide has NEVER been broken. Even against THE skyfather. Even in the second Mangog appearance, Odin slashes Mangog with ZERO result.

Well, there was ONE result. That is that Odin got close enough for Mangog to pick up in one hand, carry around like a helpless doll, until he throws him down so hard, Odin was ko.

So, there was that result. Odin actually penetrated Mangog with the sword. Look again

Originally posted by h1a8
Odin actually penetrated Mangog with the sword. Look again Do you think Odin could penetrate Hulk's pants? mmm

Gamma-father > All-father

1. Protoadamantium (Cap's shield)
2. Diana's Bracers
3. Primary Adamantium
4. Adamantium Beta
5. Carbonadium
6. Destroyer Armor
7. Mjolnir
8. Mangog's Hide

Note that the Odin Force can penetrate all of these, as can Antimetal/Antarctic Vibranium.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Gamma-father > All-father So Hulk will do the penetrating. mhmm

Originally posted by Darth Jello
3. Primary Adamantium
4. Adamantium Beta


They're equal. If anything, there's more proof that adamantium beta is more durable than primary.

You're probably thinking of secondary adamantium which =/= beta.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They're equal. If anything, there's more proof that adamantium beta is more durable than primary.

You're probably thinking of secondary adamantium which =/= beta.
Adamantium beta is adamantium altered by logan's HF, isn't it? I'd say its more durable than primary adamantium.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Adamantium beta is adamantium altered by logan's HF, isn't it? I'd say its more durable than primary adamantium.

Correct.

It allows his bone marrow to continue manufacturing blood cells.

Yep.

The mutagen actually causes a molecular change in the metal (...)

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2342/wolverine080page15.th.jpg http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3221/wolverine080page16.th.jpg http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3637/wolverine080page17.th.jpg

Originally posted by Darth Jello
1. Protoadamantium (Cap's shield)
2. Diana's Bracers
3. Primary Adamantium
4. Adamantium Beta
5. Carbonadium
6. Destroyer Armor
7. Mjolnir
8. Mangog's Hide

Note that the Odin Force can penetrate all of these, as can Antimetal/Antarctic Vibranium. Caps shield has been broken numerous times and with Skyfather level power. Diana bracers have never been broken, even under Skyfather level power. The Odin force can't penetrate the bracers.

I would say primary and beta are about equal but to allow for biological processes I would assume beta is every so slightly weaker with that being made up by the fact that it's a self-replicating molecule, a smart metal right? Stuff like vibranium, secondary adamantium, Omnium Steel etc. wouldn't even make this list. Nor would Uru with no spell cast on it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Odin actually penetrated Mangog with the sword. Look again Why would you lie? Not good, not good.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/ArealSTUPIguy/Mangog%201/th_weakodin.jpg
There is no evidence of PENETRATION. You, of all people, should be experienced with this situation.

Mangog back to the top of the list.

Originally posted by h1a8
Diana bracers have never been broken, even under Skyfather level power. The Odin force can't penetrate the bracers.
Yeah because Diana and Odin have fought numerous times, right?

Originally posted by Horrificus
Why would you lie? Not good, not good.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/ArealSTUPIguy/Mangog%201/th_weakodin.jpg
There is no evidence of PENETRATION. You, of all people, should be experienced with this situation.

Mangog back to the top of the list.


I always thought that the sword at least sliced him. It probably did, we just can't know for sure. So take that scene as a non feat since we don't know either way. We would have to ask the writer what happened there.
So that feat doesn't count. Also Odin was very weak there so definitely that feat isn't a good one.

Originally posted by armedforbattle
Yeah because Diana and Odin have fought numerous times, right? Odin isn't the only skyfather.

Mangog was amped when Wolverine and some chick stabbed him

Originally posted by h1a8
Odin isn't the only skyfather.
And Spiderman isn't a high-herald.
What's your point?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Mangog was amped when Wolverine and some chick stabbed him Maybe he was MORE amp'd in his classic days. Or, maybe more of a physical manifestation back then, but the recent stabbed-amp'd-Mangog had more power available to him, but wasn't using it as much on his durability.

Remember, it has been shown that his form can change and can suddenly have new powers that weren't seen before. It's possible that he can be what he chooses to be at any given moment.

Maybe he isn't actually a "physical" being at all.

He was bleeding just fine, bub wolverine

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He was bleeding just fine, bub wolverine Maybe he WANTED to bleed! Huh? Huh?

Or, maybe it was all a setup. Maybe Mangog and Wolverine are friends and Mangog made it look like he was stabbed so Wolverine could impress some chick. This is the most feasible scenario.