Pure H2H

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.



ColossusGrundy
K this seems to be what a lot of these repetitive posts lead to, so...

Hand to hand ONLY, NO flying, heat vision, Loeb Force, telekinesis, magic, farting, kittens or pepper spray.

Hulk, Thanos, Thing, Thor, Colossus, Sentry, Gladiator and Rulk

vs

Supes, Cap Marvel, Solomon Grundy, Despero, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Power Girl and Black Adam

2 friggin' scenarios.

1 - Typical "in-character"
2 - Morals off, Bloodlusted to the max (There ARE characters that have intentionally killed before on these lists, try to remember).


I would appreciate no blind "Team _ wins" with no explanation bias bullcrap if that's not too much to ask.

StiltmanFTW
Colossus loses.

Silent Master
Yea...Colossus is a major weak link for team one.

quanchi112
Team Thanos slaughter team 2.

armedforbattle
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
K this seems to be what a lot of these repetitive posts lead to, so...

Hand to hand ONLY, NO flying, heat vision, Loeb Force, telekinesis, magic, farting, kittens or pepper spray.

Hulk, Thanos, Thing, Thor, Colossus, Sentry, Gladiator and Rulk

vs

Supes, Cap Marvel, Solomon Grundy, Despero, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Power Girl and Black Adam

2 friggin' scenarios.

1 - Typical "in-character"
2 - Morals off, Bloodlusted to the max (There ARE characters that have intentionally killed before on these lists, try to remember).


I would appreciate no blind "Team _ wins" with no explanation bias bullcrap if that's not too much to ask.
Hulk-Supes. Hulk
Thanos-Cap Marvel. Thanos
Thing-Grundy. Grundy
Thor-Despero. Thor
Colosuss-Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman
Sentry-Manhunter. Sentry
Gladiator-Powergirl. Gladiator
Rulk-Black Adam. Black Adam.

So then we have:
Hulk, Thanos, Thor, Sentry and Gladiator
Vs
Grundy, Wonder Woman and Black Adam

Thor takes out WW, Sentry Kicks BAs ass and the other 3 run a train on Grundy

I'll go with Marvel 7/10

-Pr-
Team 2. Team 1 might have Hulk and Thanos, but the likes of Thing and Colossus are going to cost their team big.

pym-ftw
Who can put Thanos down H2H here?

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Who can put Thanos down H2H here? Not Colossus, he sucks.

LordofBrooklyn
Which versions of Despero and Grundy are being used?

Despero's best is VICE & VIRTUE and he mashes the majority of the Marvel team in a few panels.

Peak Grundy is knocking the Thing and Rulk out cold.

armedforbattle
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Which versions of Despero and Grundy are being used?

Despero's best is VICE & VIRTUE and he mashes the majority of the Marvel team in a few panels.

Peak Grundy is knocking the Thing and Rulk out cold.
Peak Grundy is PC grundy and he would solo. So I hope its not him

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by armedforbattle

Thor takes out WW, Sentry Kicks BAs ass and the other 3 run a train on Grundy


Let me correct this for you.

Hulk vs Superman- Superman
Thor vs Despero- Despero

So then we have

Hulk, Thanos, Sentry, Gladiator

VS

Grundy, Wonder Woman, Black Adam, Superman, Despero

Grundy vs Hulk- Grundy
Superman vs Gladiator- Superman ( take that you filthy imposter!)
Despero, Wonder Woman, Black Adam vs Sentry- Despero, WW, Black Adam

Thanos vs Superman, Despero, Grundy, Wonder Woman, Black Adam.

RIP Mad God!

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
K this seems to be what a lot of these repetitive posts lead to, so...

Hand to hand ONLY, NO flying, heat vision, Loeb Force, telekinesis, magic, farting, kittens or pepper spray.

Hulk, Thanos, Thing, Thor, Colossus, Sentry, Gladiator and Rulk

vs

Supes, Cap Marvel, Solomon Grundy, Despero, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Power Girl and Black Adam

2 friggin' scenarios.

1 - Typical "in-character"
2 - Morals off, Bloodlusted to the max (There ARE characters that have intentionally killed before on these lists, try to remember).


I would appreciate no blind "Team _ wins" with no explanation bias bullcrap if that's not too much to ask. Thing and Colossus don't belong here. Seriously...

armedforbattle
Superman isn't beating hulk hth
ESPECIALLY since its current versions.

-Pr-
Hulk isn't WBH anymore, though yes, DCN52 Superman is no preboot version

LordofBrooklyn
The Breakdown.
Hulk VS Supes. Superman

Superman's speed is the tipping point in this match. Clark lands enough punches to drop Hulk before he rages up to unimaginable levels of strength.

Thanos VS Cap Marvel. Thanos

Thanos has taken on Thor and Hulk simultaneously so Marvel is well within his range of power.

Thing VS Grundy. Grundy

I really view this as a single page fight. Grundy hammers Ben into oblivion.

Thor VS Despero. Despero

Despero mashes the bricks of the DCU with brute strength for fun. Superman, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, and Power Girl AT THE SAME DAMN TIME. Not to mention crushing Lobo which is a feat for anyone. The ferocity and speed needed for this makes the Odinson fall.

Colosuss-Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman

Diana is stronger, faster, more experienced and most importantly more skilled.

Sentry-Manhunter. Sentry
Robert has too much raw power.
Gladiator-Powergirl. Gladiator

armedforbattle
Whoops I didn't see your edit PR
But yeah IMO hulk puts supes Down hth.

carver9
He doesn't need to be. He is a monster...especially h2h. No one on that team is beating Thanos or Hulk h2h.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by carver9
He doesn't need to be. He is a monster...especially h2h. No one on that team is beating Thanos or Hulk h2h.

Hulk after he regains consciousness maybe a problem to Superman in the PPV rematch.

Thanos gets put down by the DC anti God squad.

I spelled it our for you. cool

pym-ftw
^not sure if serious?

Hulk will need to be worked over by a team, and Thing and Colossus have a solid amount of staying ability

-Pr-
Originally posted by pym-ftw
^not sure if serious?

Hulk will need to be worked over by a team, and Thing and Colossus have a solid amount of staying ability

Not against these heralds they won't.

pym-ftw
They both have taken a beating from hulk and Thor before, I'm not saying they win, but they a (admitantly slight yet constant) distraction.

-Pr-
Originally posted by pym-ftw
They both have taken a beating from hulk and Thor before, I'm not saying they win, but they a (admitantly slight yet constant) distraction.

They'll get knocked out before anyone else will, though.

pym-ftw
Dependent on match ups sure but a hulk suckerpunch can drop nearly half of team 2

-Pr-
And I would say that a suckerpunch from anyone on team 2 would put down Thing or Colossus.

pym-ftw
Yeah I made kinda a moot point, I can see your side I just think Hulk and Thanos are to much, not to mention Sentry

DTM
I think Despero on team DC (who as shown in VnV, can hang even with Thanos HTH), sways my vote for his team here (thanks to him, and the numbers advantage Team DC gets as well). Not to mention Team Marvel has 2 of the weakest players here, Thing and Colossus (who I give Full Props To, no doubt they are Tough, but this list has The Best, and they just dont match up in the end).

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by pym-ftw
^not sure if serious?

Hulk will need to be worked over by a team, and Thing and Colossus have a solid amount of staying ability

Which part are you refering to?

Hulk gets beaten by Superman.

Hulk gets beaten by Grundy.

Hulk gets beaten by Despero.

No team needed at all.

carver9
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Which part are you refering to?

Hulk gets beaten by Superman.

Hulk gets beaten by Grundy.

Hulk gets beaten by Despero.

No team needed at all.


Lol. laughing out loud

Q99
One person on team 2 could handle both Thing and Colossus and win, thus allowing a double-team against a stronger foe from the start. Like, instead of Superman vs Hulk? Superman and Wonder Woman vs Hulk, leave no doubt as to the outcome.

carver9
Reboot Wonder Woman and Superman?

Newjak
Other than V and V what are some of Despero's other feats in HtH. I thought he didn't do as well after that match and that some of his fighting had to do with his TP.


Thing and Colossus are extremely weak links.


Team 2 has a pretty good speed advantage that should play decisively into their favor.

I'd go with team 2.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Newjak
Other than V and V what are some of Despero's other feats in HtH. I thought he didn't do as well after that match and that some of his fighting had to do with his TP.


Thing and Colossus are extremely weak links.


Team 2 has a pretty good speed advantage that should play decisively into their favor.

I'd go with team 2.

When he fought Jonn and Aquaman, he was fighting them physically and telepathically at the same time, and had already dominated J'onn pretty severely.

I don't recall too much, but I think when he was in S/B we saw his physical prowess too.

Newjak
Originally posted by -Pr-
When he fought Jonn and Aquaman, he was fighting them physically and telepathically at the same time, and had already dominated J'onn pretty severely.

I don't recall too much, but I think when he was in S/B we saw his physical prowess too. Okay I don't know why but I thought after V and V he got toned down some.

It doesn't matter either way I would still pick team 2 stick out tongue

-Pr-
Originally posted by Newjak
Okay I don't know why but I thought after V and V he got toned down some.

It doesn't matter either way I would still pick team 2 stick out tongue

He was toned down, yes, but he was still at the very least a HH in terms of strength. V&V just had him somewhat higher than that.

Newjak
Cool thanks bro.

I still pick team 2 less weak links more of a speed advantage.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Newjak
Cool thanks bro.

I still pick team 2 less weak links more of a speed advantage.

Just sad that with most of team 2 being N52, it's kinda vague.

Newjak
Originally posted by -Pr-
Just sad that with most of team 2 being N52, it's kinda vague. You know what I didn't even think about that, I tend to just use Pre-Reboot in mind still. I need to get out of that.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Newjak
You know what I didn't even think about that, I tend to just use Pre-Reboot in mind still. I need to get out of that.

I'm still half and half about it.

I don't think there's been a Despero post reboot, so obviously he'd be preboot.

DarkSaint85
I still don't think there are enough issues, to judge.

I mean, there have been what, 16 issues of each character., roughly. Yes, Batman has like 4 or so books out, but some of them take place 5 years earlier, and then you have to take into account scene setting.

Even Aquaman, who's been getting a push...he's had maybe 3 or 4 feats? No idea on his TP power, for example.

Hence why I use preboot still.

curryman
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy

Hulk, Thanos, Thing, Thor, Colossus, Sentry, Gladiator and Rulk

vs

Supes, Cap Marvel, Solomon Grundy, Despero, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Power Girl and Black Adam


Hulk vs Supes = Supes

Thanos vs Cap Marvel = Thanos

Thing vs Grundy = lol come on, gundy obviously

Thor vs Despero = Despero

Colossus vs WW = WW

Sentry vs MM = Saddest fight ever, but MM

Gladiator vs **** = Gladiator

Rulk vs Black Adam = Black Adam.

So in the end you have Thanos and Gladiator staring down Superman, Solomon Grundy, Despero, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter and Black Adam. MM might be in terrible shape and same with Despero, but yeah.

Marvel gets slaughtered in my opinion.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by curryman
Hulk vs Supes = Supes

Thanos vs Cap Marvel = Thanos

Thing vs Grundy = lol come on, gundy obviously

Thor vs Despero = Despero

Colossus vs WW = WW

Sentry vs MM = Saddest fight ever, but MM

Gladiator vs **** = Gladiator

Rulk vs Black Adam = Black Adam.

So in the end you have Thanos and Gladiator staring down Superman, Solomon Grundy, Despero, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter and Black Adam. MM might be in terrible shape and same with Despero, but yeah.

Marvel gets slaughtered in my opinion.

Gets worse if you put Thing AND Colossus against WW, and put Grundy and PG against Gladiator.....

Raisen
Originally posted by armedforbattle
Hulk-Supes. Hulk
Thanos-Cap Marvel. Thanos
Thing-Grundy. Grundy
Thor-Despero. Thor
Colosuss-Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman
Sentry-Manhunter. Sentry
Gladiator-Powergirl. Gladiator
Rulk-Black Adam. Black Adam.

So then we have:
Hulk, Thanos, Thor, Sentry and Gladiator
Vs
Grundy, Wonder Woman and Black Adam

Thor takes out WW, Sentry Kicks BAs ass and the other 3 run a train on Grundy

I'll go with Marvel 7/10

Raisen
Originally posted by armedforbattle
Hulk-Supes. Hulk
Thanos-Cap Marvel. Thanos
Thing-Grundy. Grundy
Thor-Despero. Thor
Colosuss-Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman
Sentry-Manhunter. Sentry
Gladiator-Powergirl. Gladiator
Rulk-Black Adam. Black Adam.

So then we have:
Hulk, Thanos, Thor, Sentry and Gladiator
Vs
Grundy, Wonder Woman and Black Adam

Thor takes out WW, Sentry Kicks BAs ass and the other 3 run a train on Grundy

I'll go with Marvel 7/10

Perfect by me except I think that Despero would beat Thor

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by armedforbattle
Hulk-Supes. Hulk
Thanos-Cap Marvel. Thanos
Thing-Grundy. Grundy
Thor-Despero. Thor
Colosuss-Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman
Sentry-Manhunter. Sentry
Gladiator-Powergirl. Gladiator
Rulk-Black Adam. Black Adam.

So then we have:
Hulk, Thanos, Thor, Sentry and Gladiator
Vs
Grundy, Wonder Woman and Black Adam

Thor takes out WW, Sentry Kicks BAs ass and the other 3 run a train on Grundy

I'll go with Marvel 7/10

Hulk-Supes AND Grundy. Supes and Grundy.
Thanos-Cap Marvel. Thanos
Thor-Despero. Despero
Colosuss and Thing-Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman
Sentry-Manhunter. Sentry
Gladiator-Powergirl. Gladiator
Rulk-Black Adam. Black Adam.

So then we have:
Thanos, Sentry and Gladiator
Vs
Grundy, Superman, Despero, Wonder Woman and Black Adam.

Thanos vs Despero. Thanos
Sentry vs Grundy/BA. Grundy/BA.
Gladiator vs Superman/WW. Superman/WW win.

Thanos vs Grundy/BA/WW/Superman.

Thanos WRECKS.

Marvel 20/10. evil face

The Sorrow
Originally posted by armedforbattle
Hulk-Supes. Hulk
Thanos-Cap Marvel. Thanos
Thing-Grundy. Grundy
Thor-Despero. Thor
Colosuss-Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman
Sentry-Manhunter. Sentry
Gladiator-Powergirl. Gladiator
Rulk-Black Adam. Black Adam.

So then we have:
Hulk, Thanos, Thor, Sentry and Gladiator
Vs
Grundy, Wonder Woman and Black Adam

Thor takes out WW, Sentry Kicks BAs ass and the other 3 run a train on Grundy

I'll go with Marvel 7/10
This.

Also even though Colossus and Ben are weak links Thanos and Hulk can take on more than one member of Team 2 which makes it more even in terms of line ups.

carver9
Originally posted by The Sorrow
This.

Also even though Colossus and Ben are weak links Thanos and Hulk can take on more than one member of Team 2 which makes it more even in terms of line ups.

They sure the hell can. Hulk is gradually getting more powerful physically "every year". No one here is stopping him h2h, even as a team imo. Thanos and Hulk are the key to victory.

StiltmanFTW
lmao@ unspecified gender

curryman
No one honestly believes that the Hulk would stand a chance against Superman?

Mshinu
Originally posted by carver9
They sure the hell can. Hulk is gradually getting more powerful physically "every year". No one here is stopping him h2h, even as a team imo. Thanos and Hulk are the key to victory.

Did you just say Hulkie Boy soloes Team 2?

carver9
Originally posted by curryman
No one honestly believes that the Hulk would stand a chance against Superman?

Writers believe it and numerous of people on the forum believes it. confused

carver9
Originally posted by Mshinu
Did you just say Hulkie Boy soloes Team 2?

No...I said he can take on more than one member.

StiltmanFTW
troll

armedforbattle
Everybody is saying that one member of team DC could take on colossus and thing. If we go with that route then:
Thanos can take On 4 members and do handily.

DTM
Not if that one DC member is VnV Despero. smile

armedforbattle
Originally posted by DTM
Not if that one DC member is VnV Despero. smile I agree.
This fight, IMO, definitely depends on what versions were talking about with the DC characters.
If its current DC loses. If Despero is V&V or Grundy is at his absolute peak the Marvel goes down hard.

But the forum rules say that unless specified otherwise we use current versions. So I'll still go with marvel big grin

DarkSaint85
Current Grundy in the DCnU soloes if you wanna use current....

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Current Grundy in the DCnU soloes if you wanna use current....

He really doesn't.

Branlor Swift
Hulk's...





















(Are you following me)


























... Penis.


That should solve all of this thread's problems. My work here is done.

DarkSaint85
How would they beat an avatar of the Rot? Not just throwing titles out there, but he exists as long as he hasties to the earth.

And BFR is off. Unless I misunderstand Hth only?

Also carver, you're not in the other threadsad

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by carver9
Lol. laughing out loud

I'm calling you out!

Hulk vs Superman- Despero. Every. Time.

Hulk vs Despero- Despero. Every. Time.

Hulk vs Grundy- Grundy. Every. Time.

The canon proves this.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hulk-Supes AND Grundy. Supes and Grundy.
Thanos-Cap Marvel. Thanos
Thor-Despero. Despero
Colosuss and Thing-Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman
Sentry-Manhunter. Sentry
Gladiator-Powergirl. Gladiator
Rulk-Black Adam. Black Adam.

So then we have:
Thanos, Sentry and Gladiator
Vs
Grundy, Superman, Despero, Wonder Woman and Black Adam.

Thanos vs Despero. Thanos
Sentry vs Grundy/BA. Grundy/BA.
Gladiator vs Superman/WW. Superman/WW win.

Thanos vs Grundy/BA/WW/Superman.

Thanos WRECKS.

Marvel 20/10. evil face

This is terribly off.

DC with ease every time.

Rage.Of.Olympus
If you think Team 2 wins it easy every time, then somethings terribly off with you.

armedforbattle
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If you think Team 2 wins it easy every time, then somethings terribly off with you.
thumb up yep either way you look at it, it's not easy

carver9
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
This is terribly off.

DC with ease every time.


Sometimes Marvel makes good comics...you should try reading them sometime.

wink

DTM
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Hulk vs Superman - Despero. Every. Time.

Er, wha? stick out tongue

Personally, while Id give the win of Superman and Despero over Hulk, Id vote for Hulk to beat Grundy more than not.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If you think Team 2 wins it easy every time, then somethings terribly off with you.

DC ends up with a numbers advantage at the end of each round. How does that not equate to an easy victory?

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by carver9
Sometimes Marvel makes good comics...you should try reading them sometime.

wink

I've read thousands and that is the reason why I can confirm team DC wins. cool

carver9
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I've read thousands and that is the reason why I can confirm team DC wins. cool

Not much if you think anyone here can beat Thanos or Hulk 1 on 1.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by DTM
Er, wha? stick out tongue

Personally, while Id give the win of Superman and Despero over Hulk, Id vote for Hulk to beat Grundy more than not.

Sorry, I had visions of this while typing.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/120549/2656811-2043605_despero.jpg

DTM
Im a big fan of the Hulk, I really am, but I dont see Hulk coming close to doing what Despero did on the above post, really. To me, VnV Despero and Thanos are pretty much matches in the physical HTH dept, adding in DC has more members and overall more powerful characters (sorry Thing and Colossus), and Ive got to support DC Team to win here.

carver9
Originally posted by DTM
Im a big fan of the Hulk, I really am, but I dont see Hulk coming close to doing what Despero did on the above post, really. To me, VnV Despero and Thanos are pretty much matches in the physical HTH dept, adding in DC has more members and overall more powerful characters (sorry Thing and Colossus), and Ive got to support DC Team to win here.

Don't know why you think that when Hulk has taken it to a group of Heralds his entire career.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by carver9
Not much if you think anyone here can beat Thanos or Hulk 1 on 1.

Ahh, Thanos is a true battle but in the case of the Hulk the outcome is definitively not in Hulk's favor.

V&V Despero is a high meta group stomper. Non V&V Despero is a high meta group stomper. The varied abilities he has contended with literally simultaneously is more impressive that anything the Hulk has pulled off without being extremely amped.

Wonder Woman, Superman, Captain Marvel, Martian Manhunter, and Power Girl. The highlight being Despero's use of high level STOOGE-JITSU on Superman and Captain Marvel at the same damn time for a KO!

Grundy- PC Grundy annihilates Hulk. Post Crisis Grundy beats Hulk. Again, the canon lies with Grundy in terms of scalps collected and powers overcome.

Superman- The closest of the Hulk beaters but still handily in his favor.

If you drop in a WWH or WBH, then that is another story.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
Don't know why you think that when Hulk has taken it to a group of Heralds his entire career.

So has most of team 2, so your point isn't really one at all.

DTM
Originally posted by carver9
Don't know why you think that when Hulk has taken it to a group of Heralds his entire career.

When has normal, non-WBH Hulk taken on characters the likes of Superman, Capt Marvel, Wonder Woman and Power Girl COMBINED, and did Very Well during so (not saying VnV would have won, but he was doing Darn Good during the time the fight went on)?

Zack Fair
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Sorry, I had visions of this while typing.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/120549/2656811-2043605_despero.jpg I always see this scan and I have to ask; who was talking to Despero and what happened?

Can someone post the entire fight?

-Pr-
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I always see this scan and I have to ask; who was talking to Despero and what happened?

Can someone post the entire fight?

Hawkman was saying it, just before he smashed him in the mouth with his mace and broke his teeth.

the whole page:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/120549/2595906-despero2_super.jpg

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by carver9
Don't know why you think that when Hulk has taken it to a group of Heralds his entire career.

A group of heralds comprable to this?

http://www.beyondhollywood.com/uploads/2011/01/alex-ross-wonder-woman.jpg

http://cupcakerogues.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/shazam01.jpg

http://supermantv.net/art/data/media/28/Alex_Ross.jpg

http://buymetoys.com/catalog/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x500/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/j/l/jlagmmposter_lg.gif

carver9
Originally posted by DTM
When has normal, non-WBH Hulk taken on characters the likes of Superman, Capt Marvel, Wonder Woman and Power Girl COMBINED, and did Very Well during so (not saying VnV would have won, but he was doing Darn Good during the time the fight went on)?

He has taken on Herc, Namor, Submarinar, Ironman, Wonderman, Vision, giant man, and the list goes on. It's what super brick does...they run through teams. What I know is Hulk is stronger, faster, and more durable than Despero.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
He has taken on Herc, Namor, Submarinar, Ironman, Wonderman, Vision, giant man, and the list goes on. It's what super brick does...they run through teams. What I know is Hulk is stronger, faster, and more durable than Despero.

At least four people on team 2 would be considered "super bricks".

You don't.

StiltmanFTW
Who is Submarinar? Another cousin of Namor? laughing out loud

Zack Fair
Thanks PR thumb up

DTM
Originally posted by carver9
He has taken on Herc, Namor, Submarinar, Ironman, Wonderman, Vision, giant man, and the list goes on. It's what super brick does...they run through teams. What I know is Hulk is stronger, faster, and more durable than Despero.

I know a Bannerless Hulk once fought Hercules, Wonder Man, Iron Man and Namor together, and yes was doing very well against them, but that team doesnt hold a candle to Superman, Capt Marvel, Wonder Woman and Power Girl. Like I said, Im a fan of the Hulk, but considering I wouldnt give him the win over Superman alone, I dont see him handling Superman +++ as Despero did.

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
At least four people on team 2 would be considered "super bricks".

You don't.

I agree but they are not "Hulk" super brick. Someone that gets more powerful as the fight progress. I'm not calling them weak at all but based on fts, they are not Hulk.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
I agree but they are not "Hulk" super brick. Someone that gets more powerful as the fight progress. I'm not calling them weak at all but based on fts, they are not Hulk.

That's some horrible logic. And factually incorrect.

carver9
Originally posted by DTM
I know a Bannerless Hulk once fought Hercules, Wonder Man, Iron Man and Namor together, and yes was doing very well against them, but that team doesnt hold a candle to Superman, Capt Marvel, Wonder Woman and Power Girl. Like I said, Im a fan of the Hulk, but considering I wouldnt give him the win over Superman alone, I dont see him handling Superman +++ as Despero did.

And a lot of people has fought the JLA and done well against them. Its call ninja law. Every team Hulk has faced, he has done well against them. Hulk has also fought Galaxy Master and he was hitting Hulk with attacks powerful enough to level planets and Hulk ran through it. Galaxy Master is a skyfather and admitted he couldn't stop Hulk outside of gassing him. Hulk high end fts poo poo on any super brick here.

Despero had a good showing but its nothing outside of what Hulk can and has done and let's not forget, a couple of issues after that, Superman defeated Despero.

DTM
I dont see why Hulk is only fighting one person on Team DC anyway, as Team DC has the superior numbers, and Team Marvel has 2 of the weakest combatants here (meaning both Thanos and Hulk can be double-teamed, virtually assuring their defeats).

carver9
Originally posted by DTM
I dont see why Hulk is only fighting one person on Team DC anyway, as Team DC has the superior numbers, and Team Marvel has 2 of the weakest combatants here (meaning both Thanos and Hulk can be double-teamed, virtually assuring their defeats).

If its the reboot versions, I really don't think double teaming would matter imo.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by carver9
He has taken on Herc, Namor, Submarinar, Ironman, Wonderman, Vision, giant man, and the list goes on. It's what super brick does...they run through teams. What I know is Hulk is stronger, faster, and more durable than Despero.

Maybe you missed my prior post.

I mentioned the diversity involved in the groups that Despero has taken on and defeated.

Namor- Near 100 ton brawler.

Herc- 100 ton brawler.

Iron-Man- 40-80 tonner depending on armor. High tech offense. Ironically enough, it is the Hulk that proves that brute force can overcome Stark's standard tech.

Giant-Man- 40 tons? Great intellect.

Wonder Man- 100 ton brawler with infinite stamina.

Vision- 30 tons. High tech offense, intangibility, ranged attacks.

Of the group 4 are immensely strong but have no versatility in terms of attack. They have to play on the Hulk's terms.

The remaining 2 have incredible tech and range but can be overcome by brute strength.

This is nowhere near what Despero crushed singlehandedly.

DTM
Eh, I think you and I have a bit different POV of what Hulk is really capable of, especially against Top Tier characters like Superman. To me, Hulk is No Where Near capable of doing what Despero did to THAT grouping of heroes.

-Pr-
I think we should just straight up ban carver from posting in threads containing Hulk.

Zack Fair
Originally posted by -Pr-
I think we should just straight up ban carver http://www.deviantart.com/download/201225328/jensen_ackles___no__yes_by_joeleneybeaney-d3bsygg.gif

-Pr-
laughing out loud

carver9
Originally posted by DTM
Eh, I think you and I have a bit different POV of what Hulk is really capable of, especially against Top Tier characters like Superman.

Not saying Superman won't give him a hell of a fight but in a fist fight...the odds are slim. Hulk has completely dominate Thor and Glads in similar matches and I can't see Superman doing any better imo.

DTM
Again, I see this as different to you, I also dont see Hulk dominating Thor or Gladiator, both of which (individually of course) Id give Superman the win over as well. Even just using physical powers as stipulated here (no flight, heat vision, freeze breath, etc) Supermans strength, toughness and speed would allow him to KO Hulk, IMO (and again, Team DC doesnt even need to send 1 person against him, when they can send 2 for the Vast Overkill).

carver9
Originally posted by DTM
Again, I see this as different to you, I also dont see Hulk dominating Thor or Gladiator, both of which (individually of course) Id give Superman the win over as well. Even just using physical powers as stipulated here (no flight, heat vision, freeze breath, etc) Supermans strength, toughness and speed would allow him to KO Hulk, IMO (and again, Team DC doesnt even need to send 1 person against him, when they can send 2 for the Vast Overkill).


Hulk has already dominated Gladiator and Thor and I wouldn't put Superman that much above either (I honestly think Gladiator is stronger). Superman would do just as good as both, probably better but not in the sense you are making it.

-Pr-
lol, Superman is stronger than Gladiator. By a fair bit too.

DTM
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk has already dominated Gladiator and Thor and I wouldn't put Superman that much above either (I honestly think Gladiator is stronger). Superman would do just as good as both, probably better but not in the sense you are making it.

I think youre confusing "dominating" with "doing quite well against", personally. And again, as Id give Superman the win over either Gladiator or Thor, that goes for him fighting Hulk solo as well (again IMHO).

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
lol, Superman is stronger than Gladiator. By a fair bit too.

No he isn't.

carver9
Originally posted by DTM
I think youre confusing "dominating" with "doing quite well against", personally.

No, dominated. I can post the fights if you want.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
No he isn't.

Yes, he is. People like Supergirl and Wonder Woman are closer to Gladiator than Gladiator is to Superman.

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
Yes, he is. People like Supergirl and Wonder Woman are closer to Gladiator than Gladiator is to Superman.

I disagree but that's your opinion.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
I disagree but that's your opinion.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/pr1983/je0pY_zps327ac228.gif

Sure carver...

DarkSaint85
Would be interesting to see how an agent of the Grey like DCnU Grundy would treat someone like Hulk, with a HF....

TheHulk
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Would be interesting to see how an agent of the Grey like DCnU Grundy would treat someone like Hulk, with a HF.... shifty

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.