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With the recent Newtown shooting (and Batman shooting before that) there is a lot of talk on tighter gun laws. And the more radicals banning guns all together.

I am a bit of a conspiracy theorist, and the recent buzz in conspiracys is that Obama's plans for America is to strip the people's weapons (using newtown as a false flag, so that the people would back him) so that they will be defenseless from whatever bigger the government is planning... Supposedly a 2nd Civil War: The government and whoever backs them against the "rebels"


So please answer:
1.Do you believe any of that?
2.Do you believe the Gov is behind the newtown incident?
3.What would you do in the event of another civil war?
4.If you are a gun owner (I am) will you give up your guns?

Discuss anything related to this issue

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Originally posted by armedforbattle

So please answer:
1.Do you believe any of that?
2.Do you believe the Gov is behind the newtown incident?
3.What would you do in the event of another civil war?
4.If you are a gun owner (I am) will you give up your guns?

Discuss anything related to this issue

1)No
2)No
3)There won't be another civil war.
4)Despite the rhetoric there won't be tighter gun laws, just listen to what's coming out of congress.

Originally posted by armedforbattle


So please answer:
1.Do you believe any of that?
2.Do you believe the Gov is behind the newtown incident?
3.What would you do in the event of another civil war?
4.If you are a gun owner (I am) will you give up your guns?

Discuss anything related to this issue

1). I like to keep an open mind about everything so I guess its possible

2). I refer you to my answer to #1

3). If what you purpose is true and they do go with a "trickle effect" to suit an end game like a take over, another Civil War wouldn't last long. What I would do is hard to say. I know I would fight as a "rebel" but I don't know if I would straight up march into war.

4). I am not a Gun Owner nor do I intend to be BUT if I had guns I would not give them up. Just as I hope all other gun owners would not.

1. I don't think they are trying to start a 2nd civil war

2. definitely, but that one video a guy released on it is just plain nonsense

3. stick with my community of friends/family and try to stay alive.

4. If I had any, I wouldn't give them up.


I have to say that a civil war is just not going to happen in this country. As long as people can still have giant LCD tv's and eat all the hamburgers and ding dongs they can shove down their throats, nothing is going to change.

Originally posted by armedforbattle
With the recent Newtown shooting (and Batman shooting before that) there is a lot of talk on tighter gun laws. And the more radicals banning guns all together.

I am a bit of a conspiracy theorist, and the recent buzz in conspiracys is that Obama's plans for America is to strip the people's weapons (using newtown as a false flag, so that the people would back him) so that they will be defenseless from whatever bigger the government is planning... Supposedly a 2nd Civil War: The government and whoever backs them against the "rebels"


So please answer:
1.Do you believe any of that?
2.Do you believe the Gov is behind the newtown incident?
3.What would you do in the event of another civil war?
4.If you are a gun owner (I am) will you give up your guns?

Discuss anything related to this issue

actually your not a conspiracy theorist.Thats a term the government came up with for people who did not accept the lies and propaganda of the government they gave,they started labeling them as conspiracy theorists.Your actually a conspiracy REALIST because your aware of the facts and reality going on here unlike a lot of the american sheople in the country and so many at this site as well.

I highly recommend you going to youtube.com and type in THE OBAMA DECEPTION.its a MUST SEE VIDEO!!! its about two hours long but you watch movies right? so if you do that,you can handle it.

the president is just a puppet for the establishment and here to serve wall street and the bankers not us,and does not believe in the constitution.if they dont do what they tell them to do,they end up like kennedy.

you'll learn a lot of that by watching that video.from here on out,every president that gets in office is going to worse than the previous one thats becvause both parties are corrupt.its a one party system designed to look like two so the sheople think they have a choice in who gets elected.

Your awake and understand a lot of this and understand theresa lot of government corruption going on in our country right now so you dont fal into that catogroy obviously of someone who is a sheople.those people bury their heads in the sand like an ostrich and ignore facts and evidence.sadly most posters here at this site are like that so its a refreshing change to see someone like you on here who isnt one of those people and is aksing questions and open minded.

for the last one,I wont give up my gun.I havent killed anybody in my entire life and dont plan on it unless they break into my house and try and kill me first.

Yes Obama is trying to strip us our guns and I for one,dont plan on doing so.He has already authorized drone attacks against the us citizens.dont expect a republican president in the future to be any different either cause of the reasons I listed.Obama has not only contiuned Bushs policys,he has EXPANDED them.

you should check out this thread here.

Originally posted by armedforbattle
With the recent Newtown shooting (and Batman shooting before that) there is a lot of talk on tighter gun laws. And the more radicals banning guns all together.

I am a bit of a conspiracy theorist, and the recent buzz in conspiracys is that Obama's plans for America is to strip the people's weapons (using newtown as a false flag, so that the people would back him) so that they will be defenseless from whatever bigger the government is planning... Supposedly a 2nd Civil War: The government and whoever backs them against the "rebels"


So please answer:
1.Do you believe any of that?
2.Do you believe the Gov is behind the newtown incident?
3.What would you do in the event of another civil war?
4.If you are a gun owner (I am) will you give up your guns?

Discuss anything related to this issue

Right....so your theory is that the government are killing kids in order to take people's guns away so they can start a civil war against themselves? Because you're saying it's the government's plans to have a civil war and not the people's plans?

Makes sense.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
actually your not a conspiracy theorist.Thats a term the government came up with for people who did not accept the lies and propaganda of the government they gave,they started labeling them as conspiracy theorists.Your actually a conspiracy REALIST because your aware of the facts and reality going on here unlike a lot of the american sheople in the country and so many at this site as well.

I highly recommend you going to youtube.com and type in THE OBAMA DECEPTION.its a MUST SEE VIDEO!!! its about two hours long but you watch movies right? so if you do that,you can handle it.

the president is just a puppet for the establishment and here to serve wall street and the bankers not us,and does not believe in the constitution.if they dont do what they tell them to do,they end up like kennedy.

you'll learn a lot of that by watching that video.from here on out,every president that gets in office is going to worse than the previous one thats becvause both parties are corrupt.its a one party system designed to look like two so the sheople think they have a choice in who gets elected.

Your awake and understand a lot of this and understand theresa lot of government corruption going on in our country right now so you dont fal into that catogroy obviously of someone who is a sheople.those people bury their heads in the sand like an ostrich and ignore facts and evidence.sadly most posters here at this site are like that so its a refreshing change to see someone like you on here who isnt one of those people and is aksing questions and open minded.

for the last one,I wont give up my gun.I havent killed anybody in my entire life and dont plan on it unless they break into my house and try and kill me first.

Yes Obama is trying to strip us our guns and I for one,dont plan on doing so.He has already authorized drone attacks against the us citizens.dont expect a republican president in the future to be any different either cause of the reasons I listed.Obama has not only contiuned Bushs policys,he has EXPANDED them.

you should check out this thread here.

I see i forgot to post the link.here it is.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f70/t575556.html

Originally posted by jaden101
Right....so your theory is that the government are killing kids in order to take people's guns away so they can start a civil war against themselves? Because you're saying it's the government's plans to have a civil war and not the people's plans?

Makes sense.
Because the government is corrupt. It does make sense. Thanks

Originally posted by Mr Parker
actually your not a conspiracy theorist.Thats a term the government came up with for people who did not accept the lies and propaganda of the government they gave,they started labeling them as conspiracy theorists.Your actually a conspiracy REALIST because your aware of the facts and reality going on here unlike a lot of the american sheople in the country and so many at this site as well.

I highly recommend you going to youtube.com and type in THE OBAMA DECEPTION.its a MUST SEE VIDEO!!! its about two hours long but you watch movies right? so if you do that,you can handle it.

the president is just a puppet for the establishment and here to serve wall street and the bankers not us,and does not believe in the constitution.if they dont do what they tell them to do,they end up like kennedy.

you'll learn a lot of that by watching that video.from here on out,every president that gets in office is going to worse than the previous one thats becvause both parties are corrupt.its a one party system designed to look like two so the sheople think they have a choice in who gets elected.

Your awake and understand a lot of this and understand theresa lot of government corruption going on in our country right now so you dont fal into that catogroy obviously of someone who is a sheople.those people bury their heads in the sand like an ostrich and ignore facts and evidence.sadly most posters here at this site are like that so its a refreshing change to see someone like you on here who isnt one of those people and is aksing questions and open minded.

for the last one,I wont give up my gun.I havent killed anybody in my entire life and dont plan on it unless they break into my house and try and kill me first.

Yes Obama is trying to strip us our guns and I for one,dont plan on doing so.He has already authorized drone attacks against the us citizens.dont expect a republican president in the future to be any different either cause of the reasons I listed.Obama has not only contiuned Bushs policys,he has EXPANDED them.

you should check out this thread here.
definitely good to see some other people are taking note of the corrupt events taking place! Some people are just blind.

The government of the United States is just one in a laundry list of evil organizations whose larger goal is a one world system, featuring a one world government, one world currency, and one world religion.

So, ultimately, while the US government is probably the ones that operated the travesties that occurred in Newtown and Aurora (and Hellywood telegraphed their punches in TDKR), it was ultimately the doing of a larger conspiracy, not confined to one country or ideology. It's not just fascist or communist, Zionist or Muslim, white or black. There is ONE unifying factor to all of them, but I won't go into that here, as someone will yell at me.

But to answer your questions:

1. Yes
2. Yes, but only in certain capacities. There are more high level people in charge
3. In the event of a civil war, it would almost certainly be like every other war in the last 100 or so years: the Illuminati runs both sides. So I wouldn't fight in it. Both sides would be corrupt. I'd build up a compound and protect my family/friends/anyone that would come to me for help from the chaos going on out there. (And God would protect me).
4. I'm not a gun owner (yet), but I would not turn in my gun(s). We have the right to protect ourselves and our families. This "gun grab" is unlawful and dangerous.

Hmm.

Originally posted by armedforbattle
definitely good to see some other people are taking note of the corrupt events taking place! Some people are just blind.

Originally posted by armedforbattle
With the recent Newtown shooting (and Batman shooting before that) there is a lot of talk on tighter gun laws. And the more radicals banning guns all together.

I am a bit of a conspiracy theorist, and the recent buzz in conspiracys is that Obama's plans for America is to strip the people's weapons (using newtown as a false flag, so that the people would back him) so that they will be defenseless from whatever bigger the government is planning... Supposedly a 2nd Civil War: The government and whoever backs them against the "rebels"


So please answer:
1.Do you believe any of that?
2.Do you believe the Gov is behind the newtown incident?
3.What would you do in the event of another civil war?
4.If you are a gun owner (I am) will you give up your guns?

Discuss anything related to this issue

1) The anti gun people will use a tragedy for their cause just as the pro gun people will. Gun violence happens = "We need tighter gun laws" vs "We need looser gun laws/more guns"

2) LoL, no.

3) Probably try and leave the country before some gun loon who has been waiting for an excuse to kill people under the "for freedom!!1!" sentiment shoots me.

4) Don't own a gun.

Originally posted by armedforbattle
Because the government is corrupt. It does make sense. Thanks

So the government's corrupt and so wants to start a fight with itself?

Is it like, schizophrenic or something?

Originally posted by armedforbattle
With the recent Newtown shooting (and Batman shooting before that) there is a lot of talk on tighter gun laws. And the more radicals banning guns all together.

I am a bit of a conspiracy theorist, and the recent buzz in conspiracys is that Obama's plans for America is to strip the people's weapons (using newtown as a false flag, so that the people would back him) so that they will be defenseless from whatever bigger the government is planning... Supposedly a 2nd Civil War: The government and whoever backs them against the "rebels"


So please answer:
1.Do you believe any of that?
2.Do you believe the Gov is behind the newtown incident?
3.What would you do in the event of another civil war?
4.If you are a gun owner (I am) will you give up your guns?

Discuss anything related to this issue

Typical NRA member, or Church member, being converted to superstitionism.

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"There are white folks, and then there are ignorant mother****ers like you."

In the events of another civil war you should dress up as Axl Rose and shout

"I DON'T NEED YOUR CIVIL WOWAAAAW...IT FEEDS THE RICH WHILE IT BURIES THE POWAAAAW....THE POWER HUNGRY SELLING SOLDIERS IN A HUMAN GROCERY STOWAAAW

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As my arm pits, baby.

Originally posted by Dolos
Typical NRA member, or Church member, being converted to superstitionism.

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-12T2JDHZAcI/Sq2J29qeiXI/AAAAAAAABW8/1l_7-mpLZIY/s400/Obama+Vampire.jpg

"There are white folks, and then there are ignorant mother****ers like you."

"Church member?" When did he say anything about that? As a Christian, I find your unprovoked shot a little... strange, but to be expected, I guess.

I think you're trying to convince yourself that you are right by taunting the truth. I feel bad for you.

And in regards to the "gun grab", just do a little research. Even if they "just" want to register firearms, the next step is ALWAYS confiscation. And after you register/confiscate assault firearms, then the others will get the same treatment, if not in the same year, then not long afterward.

Nazis in Austria registered guns, then confiscated them not long after. China did the same thing. And Soviet Russia. And Cuba. And Australia. And Ireland. And Canada. Now granted some of these were only partial confiscation, but it most certainly softens them up to more confiscation down the road, no?

And assuming that he is white is a little racist, don't you think?

Guns are always a bad idea but now that there's so many of them in the world bad people are always going to get there hands on one pretty easy even if they tighten the laws it's only going to affect the good people that have a real pride in there gun ownership and collectors , there will always be shootings and screwed up things like that in the states because that's the way the country's headed , I really can't beleave that more shootings haven't happened but not at schools and against there own people but against the people in power , heads of corporations people in government the real evil mothers out there that smile in front of cameras and tell u bull , you people have to wake up and spread the word , most of the information u need is on public record which makes no sence cause it's on black and white there plans what they have done and how you are being lied to bit as one of people said earlier on here there won't be a war as long as people can eat there KFC and the burger king and watch movies and be lazy because while they are doing that your not paying attention , please America wake up learn before its to late help yourselfs

Originally posted by jaden101
So the government's corrupt and so wants to start a fight with itself?

Is it like, schizophrenic or something?


Or... It knows its going to collapse, so it orchestrates a collapse.

Originally posted by Dolos
Typical NRA member, or Church member, being converted to superstitionism.

EqQuihD0hoI

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-12T2JDHZAcI/Sq2J29qeiXI/AAAAAAAABW8/1l_7-mpLZIY/s400/Obama+Vampire.jpg

"There are white folks, and then there are ignorant mother****ers like you."

great stuff there on Obama but you could have left out the childish name calling.He is actually a lot smarter than a lot of other posters here and understands whats going on.

Originally posted by Kiwisam1991
Guns are always a bad idea but now that there's so many of them in the world bad people are always going to get there hands on one pretty easy even if they tighten the laws it's only going to affect the good people that have a real pride in there gun ownership and collectors , there will always be shootings and screwed up things like that in the states because that's the way the country's headed , I really can't beleave that more shootings haven't happened but not at schools and against there own people but against the people in power , heads of corporations people in government the real evil mothers out there that smile in front of cameras and tell u bull , you people have to wake up and spread the word , most of the information u need is on public record which makes no sence cause it's on black and white there plans what they have done and how you are being lied to bit as one of people said earlier on here there won't be a war as long as people can eat there KFC and the burger king and watch movies and be lazy because while they are doing that your not paying attention , please America wake up learn before its to late help yourselfs



taking away guns from the citizens doesnt work anyways.a few countrys tried it and all that resulted in was more crimes against its citizens and more murders than ever before,

No, in fact Obama Care has been grossly changed due to the States' lack of cooperation. The House of Representatives have made most of his efforts to naught. In fact, curious that this new Health Care Website is literally the only way for it to be supplied to everyone, even more curious were all the bugs.

My thoughts? Obama's being made to look like the bad guy by the same mother****ers who sent us into a second Vietnam, this time in the Middle East. The same mother****ers who're spreading a global debt like a mother****ing virus and making sure Saudi Arabia gets all that money for Bugattis and the tallest luxury skyscrapers in the world in return for Dat Oil.

There's no Nuclear War on the brink, there's just one big fat technocratic dystopian under-society supplying the small utopian upper society.

It's called a pyramid.

Not really, it's the same thing that gets trotted out every liberal president. Also, keep in mind that early on no-one expected Obama to get a second term, not even Obama. He managed to go his entire first term, all he expected to get, without enacting any steps in that plan, and any moves to gun control on his part have been pretty mild. He hasn't even restored the ATF's ability to force gunstores to do simple inventory checks. Something I think most gun owners should be for! Here's a nice statistic for you: Under 5% of gunstores are estimated to be responsible for over 90% of all illegal guns. A Republican backed measure specifically banned the ATF from checking which stores these are. Purposefully making it easier to funnel guns to unknown peoples? Now that is more suspicious than anything Obama's ever done, consider the motives behind such a move.

The actions don't match the accusations, and there's some mighty suspicious moves coming from other quarters, y'know?

Originally posted by Dolos
No, in fact Obama Care has been grossly changed due to the States' lack of cooperation. The House of Representatives have made most of his efforts to naught. In fact, curious that this new Health Care Website is literally the only way for it to be supplied to everyone, even more curious were all the bugs.

My thoughts? Obama's being made to look like the bad guy by the same mother****ers who sent us into a second Vietnam, this time in the Middle East. The same mother****ers who're spreading a global debt like a mother****ing virus and making sure Saudi Arabia gets all that money for Bugattis and the tallest luxury skyscrapers in the world in return for Dat Oil.

There's no Nuclear War on the brink, there's just one big fat technocratic dystopian under-society supplying the small utopian upper society.

It's called a pyramid.

thats because like I said before,Obama is the latest puppet of a president willing to serve them and wall street instead of the people burning the constitution like every president we have had since Lyndon johnson.

He is a communist willing to serve their interests.there was never a doubt in MY mind he was going to get reelected.He has done an excellent job of destroying america and furthering the agenda of the new world order like they want him to just like Bush and clinton before him did so it was obvious he was going to get reelected.

You got to remember,we dont elect these people and put them in office,they are selected for us by the establishment.

Good presidents never serve past one term anymore.

Bush sr had already been president since his second term in office as vp under reagan.Reagan by his second term was too senile to run the country with alzhemiers diseace so Bush ran it so he really served TWO terms as president,so he didnt want to win relection the second time especially since he knew his son was going to be future president.

Obomination is going along with the establishments plan for a new world order,he has to or he will end up like Kennedy,our last REAL president we had not a puppet for the establishment.

again you should watch the obama deception video.