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1.Standard SM Ultron at best/peak
a. H2H
B. Both use full powers and abilities no BFR
c. The above with BFR on

2.Standard versions of both
a. H2H
B. Both use full powers and abilities no BFR
c. The above with BFR on


Who wins in each of the above?

Peak Ultron wins, supes can take some though

Superman speed blitz & rips him apart

Phalanx Ultron, especially Adam Warlock Ultron are a little much for superman

Ultron

Superman could win this, intense heat has damaged Ultron inside before. Let me think, location might play a part- if this is a deserted atmosphere-less moon. What is to stop Superman cracking the moon wide open and drop kicking Ultron into the nearest blackhole at Superspeed.

Originally posted by Shabazz916
Superman speed blitz & rips him apart

Originally posted by quanchi112


WHAT???!!!

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So Quan,

Superman > Mighty Avengers including Sentry...

Superman grabs him and spins him so hard ultrons inside melt

Ultron zaps him with the Encephalo ray repeatedly.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Ultron zaps him with the Encephalo ray repeatedly.
And fails. Brainiac 13 failed to control superman by that tactic even after he threw the emotions of everyone on Earth in his mind to make him go mad.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And fails. Brainiac 13 failed to control superman by that tactic even after he threw the emotions of everyone on Earth in his mind to make him go mad.

Superman's been mentally mentally manipulated and assaulted by far less than that though. If that were Superman standard mental defense than yeah of course Ultron fails miserably.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Superman's been mentally mentally manipulated and assaulted by far less than that though. If that were Superman standard mental defense than yeah of course Ultron fails miserably. Like who? That's superman's average mental defenses btw. At high end he endured Dominus throwing the whole information of a multiverse in his mind and even then resisting his control.

LoL Superman is so OP.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Like who?

That's superman's average mental defenses btw. At high end he endured Dominus throwing the whole information of a multiverse in his mind and even then resisting his control.

He was possessed to fight Cap Marvel, have sex with Big Barda, fight wonderwoman, Darkseid's soldier, you know them. There's nothing I can tell you of his mind controlled sessions that you don't already know of.

Also-
Originally posted by abhilegend

That's superman's average mental defenses btw. At high end he endured Dominus throwing the whole information of a multiverse in his mind and even then resisting his control.

****ing ****ity ****. Who comes up with these feats for him?

Seriously, it's impossible to compare high ends with this guy. "

Oh your hero survived a star exploding in his face? That's cute, Superman had the entire multiverse thrown at him over and over and he only sweat one drop throughout the entire feat. *****."

That's how it feels like

^

You forgot to mention "while under a red sun, surrunded by kryptonite"

And seriously, some of his mind controled situatios involved magic or other context, SOME

You shoul join the house of kal caeda, seeing that marvel is dising thor so much lately

Superman is in general hard to mentally control. That's not how you beat him.

Originally posted by Damborgson
He was possessed to fight Cap Marvel, He threw Eclipso out of his mind the first time and then willingly gave Eclipso the control when he had the first fight with cap. The second time Eclipso tricked him via lois. Because Byrne was a hack. Max took years to do that and it was due to his guilt over killing pocket dimension kryptonians acting as a backdoor for him. He was amnesiac. I know the context behind them.

Originally posted by abhilegend
One universe? ***** please, Dominus tries to break superman by experiencing infinite realities and their information. Guess what happened?

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9112/ccf0528201200007.jpg

Nothing of course

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As for Lucifer Enjoy.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Seriously, it's impossible to compare high ends with this guy. "

Oh your hero survived a star exploding in his face? That's cute, Superman had the entire multiverse thrown at him over and over and he only sweat one drop throughout the entire feat. *****."

That's how it feels like
Have I mentioned Emperor Joker failing to control him or an Elder Goddess who enslaved Spectre failing to control him?

BTW Dambo, superman did survive multiversal source wall exploding in his face.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Have I mentioned Emperor Joker failing to control him or an Elder Goddess who enslaved Spectre failing to control him?
Quit trolling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit trolling.

WHAT???!!!


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