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Bloodlust is on. Who wins?

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Considering the following, I've got a few questions:



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Source: Thor #429

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Considering the following, I've got a few questions:



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Source: Thor #429 The links are not working.

They're not links until they appear in the blue colored underlined format you see of your QUOTING of what you're CALLING "links" from me.

Or, perhaps it's more accurate to say, they're not "CLICK-able" links until they appear that way.


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Just like this one is:

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split

At any rate, my questions are as follows:


1. By "bloodlust" do you mean both are sort of mindlessly focusing on killing each other without any real strategy beyond, say, the actions taken by Superman in Greg Rucka's "Sacrifice" battle against Wonder Woman?

Or do you just mean "These guys are fighting in character, perhaps even strategically, but are resolved to make sure the fight ends in the death of their opponent"?

The first kind of fight would much like the following:

... and that type of fight would probably either split or be in Black Adam's favor (given Adam apparently had multiple series of that type of engagement throughout the World War 3 storyline).

On the other hand, if Beta Ray Bill, more used to fighting exotic menaces than Thor (I imagine),

is likewise more given to using the exotic powers his hammer, Stormbreaker, grants him to meet those menaces,

... then I see Bill able to score an easier knockout against Adam than most other heralds.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
At any rate, my questions are as follows:


1. By "bloodlust" do you mean both are sort of mindlessly focusing on killing each other without any real strategy beyond, say, the actions taken by Superman in Greg Rucka's "Sacrifice" battle against Wonder Woman?

Or do you just mean "These guys are fighting in character, perhaps even strategically, but are resolved to make sure the fight ends in the death of their opponent"?

The first kind of fight would much like the following: Originally posted by bluewaterrider
... and that type of fight would probably either split or be in Black Adam's favor (given Adam apparently had multiple series of that type of engagement throughout the World War 3 storyline).

On the other hand, if Beta Ray Bill, more used to fighting exotic menaces than Thor (I imagine),

is likewise more given to using the exotic powers his hammer, Stormbreaker, grants him to meet those menaces,

... then I see Bill able to score an easier knockout against Adam than most other heralds.


lol your silly

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
They're not links until they appear in the blue colored underlined format you see of your QUOTING of what you're CALLING "links" from me.

Or, perhaps it's more accurate to say, they're not "CLICK-able" links until they appear that way.


Try it: Click on the links now available in your quote box REPLY to me, and see if you cannot now get images to come.

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Just like this one is:

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Originally posted by bluewaterrider
At any rate, my questions are as follows:


1. By "bloodlust" do you mean both are sort of mindlessly focusing on killing each other without any real strategy beyond, say, the actions taken by Superman in Greg Rucka's "Sacrifice" battle against Wonder Woman?

Or do you just mean "These guys are fighting in character, perhaps even strategically, but are resolved to make sure the fight ends in the death of their opponent"?

The first kind of fight would much like the following: You can go with either your second option of which they are still mindful enough to use all their powers strategically or go with both scenario's, your choice.

Adam, imo. He's just better in the areas where it counts.

Bill

All I can say is if Marvel and DC ever do another crossover this is a fight that should happen

Probably somewhere out in space

Originally posted by lawest9
You can go with either your second option of which they are still mindful enough to use all their powers strategically or go with both scenario's, your choice.


If we're going with option 2, any Thor class character that is thinking strategically and has even an inkling Black Adam is powered by magic LIGHTNING, is going to use their Uru hammer to block or remove Adam's power.

The images I've posted before now (with, of course, the exception of that kamikaze rush) all display "Thor-type character probing magic-empowered character and then blocking or removing magic-characters power", an inherent ability of Mjolnir and, presumably, Stormbreaker.

Thor figures out that Captain Marvel, for instance, is powered by the Shazam lightning, in DC versus Marvel #2. So he instantly moves to intercept the bolt, and does, and we get some weird results here, presumably so that, 4th Wall, we can have Wonder Woman cosplay in the next issue.

The point, however, is that, being more or less MASTER of most forms of lightning, Shazam characters are a threat to strategic Thors only when they allow them to be. At least, of course, if the abilities of their Uru hammers are allowed.

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It demonstrates that Thor can remove or redirect magic power ALREADY CONTAINED in a person's body. Or even that of several people at once:

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As to the objection: "Unless Adam transforms or uses the lightning, Beta Ray will have no way to know Adam's power is magic"?

That's what the Juggernaut versus Thor showing was about.

Wondering exactly why Juggernaut is so tough, Thor simply makes Mjolnir examine the nature of his invulnerability, concludes it is magic, and then has Mjolnir block it accordingly.

(I posted/am re-posting most of the scans after that scene simply for fan/reader enjoyment)


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Source: Thor #429




At any rate, a fight between Adam and a thinking Bill should have a similar result.

Originally posted by Newjak
All I can say is if Marvel and DC ever do another crossover this is a fight that should happen

Probably somewhere out in space

Originally posted by -Pr-


Ditto man, This would be one hell of a fight, and it's too close to call. Soon as I think that one of them wins, I remember what the other can do. Split.

Originally posted by Stoic
Ditto man, This would be one hell of a fight, and it's too close to call. Soon as I think that one of them wins, I remember what the other can do. Split.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Adam, imo. He's just better in the areas where it counts. Like what? Durability? Bill takes it. Speed? bill takes it.

Originally posted by googol
Like what? Durability? Bill takes it. Speed? bill takes it.

Disagree on both counts.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Disagree on both counts. Bill Has FTL speeds, Black addam took 5,000 years to fly across the Universe, he is slower than the enterprise

Originally posted by googol
Bill Has FTL speeds, Black addam took 5,000 years to fly across the Universe, he is slower than the enterprise

That's some pretty outdated info.

And Adam combat wise is as fast as Bill, easily.

Combat wise I'm sure he's faster.

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's some pretty outdated info.

And Adam combat wise is as fast as Bill, easily. Pre Crysis? or Pre Boot?

Preboot Adam is as fast.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Combat wise I'm sure he's faster. ofcourse Bill is faster

Originally posted by -Pr-
Preboot Adam is as fast. didnt Martian Man Hunter killed him?

Originally posted by googol
Like what? Durability? Bill takes it. Speed? bill takes it.


wrong,wrong and wrong again.

bill is more powerful over all but adam pounds him into the ground. Bill has showed nothing to say he can keep up with BA durability wise. And as far as speed goes bill is not even in BA's league there.

Originally posted by lawest9
Bloodlust is on. Who wins? Does this permit BRB decoupling and releasing all his power? Because I think he'd need to in this fight. Originally posted by zeel
wrong,wrong and wrong again.

bill is more powerful over all but adam pounds him into the ground. Bill has showed nothing to say he can keep up with BA durability wise. And as far as speed goes bill is not even in BA's league there. I'm curious, and on the verge of being outright baffled, at why and how you think this.

Originally posted by googol
didnt Martian Man Hunter killed him?

Nope.

Originally posted by googol
didnt Martian Man Hunter killed him? get out of my face

Originally posted by ODG
Does this permit BRB decoupling and releasing all his power? Because I think he'd need to in this fight. I'm curious, and on the verge of being outright baffled, at why and how you think this.


BA did battle with the likes of Martian Manhunter, wonder woman,powergirl,stargirl, jay Garrick several speedster and multiple green lanterns and other mid hearlds and held his own. He down right scared the crap outta PG and resisted MM telepathy, he actually had MM beat and let him go. It took captian marvel just to restrain him and depower him with a lighting bolt.

No BRB is not beating WW3 ba,

Originally posted by zeel
BA did battle with the likes of Martian Manhunter, wonder woman,powergirl,stargirl, jay Garrick several speedster and multiple green lanterns and other mid hearlds and held his own. He down right scared the crap outta PG and resisted MM telepathy, he actually had MM beat and let him go. It took captian marvel just to restrain him and depower him with a lighting bolt.

No BRB is not beating WW3 ba, When he stopped holding back, BRB beat down B&T Thor. He also decimated a fleet that was overpowering a weakened Galactus, Surfer and Stardust. And that was all without Stormbreaker.

Your proclamation doesn't seem to account for BRB's own achievements in the slightest.

Your proclamation doesn't seem to account for BRB's own achievements in the slightest.


nope just don't agree but we are all entitled to our own opinion.

Adam.