HOTM Red She Hulk vs Thanos Fist Fight

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TheHulk
HOTM Red She Hulk or maybe even Worldbreaker Red She Hulk vs Thanos in a fist fight. Who wins?

juggerman
Betty

carver9
Even with all powers accessible, Thanos would need to bfr her to win.

LeonBuco666
Originally posted by carver9
Even with all powers accessible, Thanos would need to bfr her to win.

zopzop
Thanos.

Pre-Death upgrade, his fight with Drax destroyed an entire planet. Drax was KOed, Thanos was just fine.

Horrificus
Originally posted by zopzop
Thanos.

Pre-Death upgrade, his fight with Drax destroyed an entire planet. Drax was KOed, Thanos was just fine.

TheHulk
^lolol

Horrificus
Originally posted by zopzop
Thanos.

Pre-Death upgrade, his fight with Drax destroyed an entire planet. Drax was KOed, Thanos was just fine.

Originally posted by TheHulk
^lolol

umm... that's y i quoted zopzop. uh, because it was a silly statement... and, um, i was making fun of it! yup.
roll eyes (sarcastic) ridiculous zop. will u never learn?

The "Hulk lovers" and I find you to be amusing.

a88378438
Originally posted by Horrificus
umm... that's y i quoted zopzop. uh, because it was a silly statement... and, um, i was making fun of it! yup.
roll eyes (sarcastic) ridiculous zop. will u never learn?

The "Hulk lovers" and I find you to be amusing.
silly statement agree cant any more
they are fight just creater some instability in the planet,planet destroy by itself

TheHulk
Yep your right its a silly statement..

753
rulkie wins

TheGodKiller
Rulkette wins.

zopzop
Originally posted by TheHulk
^lolol Originally posted by a88378438
silly statement agree cant any more
they are fight just creater some instability in the planet,planet destroy by itself
The planet was destroyed as a result of their fight.

Here is a fight between Morg and Surfer that devastated a SOLAR SYSTEM :
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/58454/1114874-silver_surfer_annual_07_30_31_super.jpg
Thanos laughs at these clowns. Thanos clubbed the Surfer to death using nothing but his fists.

Thanos wins.

TheHulk
Originally posted by zopzop
The planet was destroyed as a result of their fight.

Here is a fight between Morg and Surfer that devastated a SOLAR SYSTEM :
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/58454/1114874-silver_surfer_annual_07_30_31_super.jpg
Thanos laughs at these clowns. Thanos clubbed the Surfer to death using nothing but his fists.

Thanos wins. This is a fist fight not a energy fight lol that solar system got destroyed because of the energy being released.

a88378438
Originally posted by zopzop
The planet was destroyed as a result of their fight.

Doesnt matter,DRAX just destroy a small planet and they are fight just Cause imbalance in the planet,so that why they are destroy planet
DRAX or thanos was no way can destroy like earth of size planet

Naija boy
Red she hulk wins. What she and hulk did was very different from the scene being shown from surfer and morg or even from drax and thanos. Surfer and Morg first and foremost were blasting one another and had their energy radiate outward destroying the planet. Impressive but Not the same thing as a physical collision whose residual shockwave destroys the planet.

Moreover, thanos and drax were actually grappling on the planets surface and thus making contact with the planet, still pretty impressive quite frankly, but the hulks collision was miles in the air, and thereby would require orders of magnitude more force. Lastly, the most impressive part of the hulks feat was the characters destroyed by the shockwave, which gives us a true indication of how impressive it really was. Armcheddon, highly amped fing fang foom,Bi beast, Wendigo, race of mindless ones to powerful for Umar to defeat etc. That is lacking in these other two feats and in addition to the points mentioned above puts the hulk feat on a whole nother level in terms of it being indicative of his physical prowess.

TheHulk
Originally posted by Naija boy
Red she hulk wins. What she and hulk did was very different from the scene being shown from surfer and morg or even from drax and thanos. Surfer and Morg first and foremost were blasting one another and had their energy radiate outward destroying the planet. Impressive but Not the same thing as a physical collision whose residual shockwave destroys the planet.

Moreover, thanos and drax were actually grappling on the planets surface and thus making contact with the planet, still pretty impressive quite frankly, but the hulks collision was miles in the air, and thereby would require orders of magnitude more force. Lastly, the most impressive part of the hulks feat was the characters destroyed by the shockwave, which gives us a true indication of how impressive it really was. Armcheddon, highly amped fing fang foom,Bi beast, Wendigo, race of mindless ones to powerful for Umar to defeat etc. That is lacking in these other two feats and in addition to the points mentioned above puts the hulk feat on a whole nother level in terms of it being indicative of his physical prowess. Damn Naija you on a roll baby!

TheHulk
Originally posted by a88378438
Originally posted by zopzop
The planet was destroyed as a result of their fight.

Doesnt matter,DRAX just destroy a small planet and they are fight just Cause imbalance in the planet,so that why they are destroy planet
DRAX or thanos was no way can destroy like earth of size planet My mind just got f*cked. What the f**k?

zopzop
Originally posted by a88378438
Originally posted by zopzop
The planet was destroyed as a result of their fight.

Doesnt matter,DRAX just destroy a small planet and they are fight just Cause imbalance in the planet,so that why they are destroy planet
DRAX or thanos was no way can destroy like earth of size planet
Drax did more than one shot a planetoid :
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/drax/draxplanetbusting.jpg

Drax and Thanos' fight wrecked a "living" planet. Living Planets need sufficient gravity to have a thick atmosphere to support life which means it's a good sized world:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/2264667-iron_man_055_16.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/2264668-iron_man_055_17.jpg

Drax tore apart a star. Stars >planets in size :
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499/814552-star2_super.jpg

That's the guy that couldn't hang H2H vs PRE DEATH UPGRADE Thanos.

Thanos wins.

TheHulk
Originally posted by zopzop
Drax did more than one shot a planetoid :
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/drax/draxplanetbusting.jpg

Drax and Thanos' fight wrecked a "living" planet. Living Planets need sufficient gravity to have a thick atmosphere to support life which means it's a good sized world:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/2264667-iron_man_055_16.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/2264668-iron_man_055_17.jpg

Drax tore apart a star. Stars >planets in size :
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499/814552-star2_super.jpg

That's the guy that couldn't hang H2H vs PRE DEATH UPGRADE Thanos.

Thanos wins. So you just really ignored his absolute trash for grammar?

a88378438
Originally posted by Naija boy
Red she hulk wins. What she and hulk did was very different from the scene being shown from surfer and morg or even from drax and thanos. Surfer and Morg first and foremost were blasting one another and had their energy radiate outward destroying the planet. Impressive but Not the same thing as a physical collision whose residual shockwave destroys the planet.

Moreover, thanos and drax were actually grappling on the planets surface and thus making contact with the planet, still pretty impressive quite frankly, but the hulks collision was miles in the air, and thereby would require orders of magnitude more force. Lastly, the most impressive part of the hulks feat was the characters destroyed by the shockwave, which gives us a true indication of how impressive it really was. Armcheddon, highly amped fing fang foom,Bi beast, Wendigo, race of mindless ones to powerful for Umar to defeat etc. That is lacking in these other two feats and in addition to the points mentioned above puts the hulk feat on a whole nother level in terms of it being indicative of his physical prowess.

The clash rendered the landscape asunder as the planet was wrenched from its normal ebbs and tides. While in battle the planet hit its breaking point.
thanos fight with drax just destroy the planet Balance,red she hulk wins soooo easily..

TheHulk
Originally posted by zopzop
Drax did more than one shot a planetoid :
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/drax/draxplanetbusting.jpg

Drax and Thanos' fight wrecked a "living" planet. Living Planets need sufficient gravity to have a thick atmosphere to support life which means it's a good sized world:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/2264667-iron_man_055_16.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/2264668-iron_man_055_17.jpg

Drax tore apart a star. Stars >planets in size :
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499/814552-star2_super.jpg

That's the guy that couldn't hang H2H vs PRE DEATH UPGRADE Thanos.

Thanos wins. This is the worst ABC logic I have ever seen.....

If you think WBRSH who equalled to WBH,the one getting most of the hype,has no chance against in a slugfest than you are absolutely wrong...

TheHulk
Originally posted by a88378438
The clash rendered the landscape asunder as the planet was wrenched from its normal ebbs and tides. While in battle the planet hit its breaking point.
thanos fight with drax just destroy the planet Balance,red she hulk wins soooo easily.. OHH now you speak proper language! erm

Diesldude
I think thanos and drax feat was greater.

On a much smaller scale, You can blow out a candle by clapping your hands near it but you can't with a handshake.

Naija boy
^ that analogy has absolutely no relation whatsoever...none at all. no expression

Diesldude
Originally posted by Naija boy
^ that analogy has absolutely no relation whatsoever...none at all. no expression why not, the hulk & Betty collision made a shock wave, thanos and drax were in a mercy contest and the planet started to crumble.

TheHulk
Originally posted by Diesldude
why not, the hulk & Betty collision made a shock wave, thanos and drax were in a mercy contest and the planet started to crumble. I know the Reletion of the physics but still there is a huge difference between a mere clap to a candle towards a thunderclap from WBH the difference is the size if a sub atomic particle vs the size of the universe What the f**k?

juggerman
Originally posted by Diesldude
On a much smaller scale, You can blow out a candle by clapping your hands near it but you can't with a handshake.

What if your hands come together and shake directly on the flame?

Naija boy
Originally posted by Diesldude
why not, the hulk & Betty collision made a shock wave, thanos and drax were in a mercy contest and the planet started to crumble.

Well to put it bluntly, Your analogy completely fails because a candle going out is not an accurate indicator of level of force. A clap by virtue of the movement of the open palms through the air, pushes air in the direction of the candle thereby blowing it out. The candles goes out because the air pushes the heat away from the candle thereby reducing it to below ignition temperature and putting out the flame..That has to do with the surface area of the hands and the proper angle to get the air to move in the proper direction. Conversely, a handshake is a continuous application of force between two objects (hands). The disturbance in the air created by the clap is not created by the handshake by virtue of the nature of the interaction, that does not necessarily mean less force was applied.

I mean I could clap my hands very lightly together and still manage to blow out a candle. Conversely Mariuz pudzianowski and zyrdunas savickas ( two of the greatest strongmen competitors of all time) could be squeezing each others hands in the most manly handshake ever and not achieve the same result. It doesn't mean they were generating less overall force than I was. The two interactions are not analogous at all and hence no reasonable conclusion can be draw.

In the case of the thanos feat vs hulk feat, both interactions can be compared directly regarding the force they generated as the destruction of the planet is a mutual indicator of force shared by both feats. What makes hulks feat more impressive in terms of planetary destruction , is that while both generated enough force to destroy the planet, hulks happened miles in the air and thus the force from the actual collision which acted on the planet would have dissipated exponentially and at a far far greater rate than it would have in the thanos instance.

TheHulk
Originally posted by Naija boy
Well to put it bluntly, Your analogy completely fails because a candle going out is not an accurate indicator of level of force. A clap by virtue of the movement of the open palms through the air, pushes air in the direction of the candle thereby blowing it out. The candles goes out because the air pushes the heat away from the candle thereby reducing it to below ignition temperature and putting out the flame..That has to do with the surface area of the hands and the proper angle to get the air to move in the proper direction. Conversely, a handshake is a continuous application of force between two objects (hands). The disturbance in the air created by the clap is not created by the handshake by virtue of the nature of the interaction, that does not necessarily mean less force was applied.

I mean I could clap my hands very lightly together and still manage to blow out a candle. Conversely Mariuz pudzianowski and zyrdunas savickas ( two of the greatest strongmen competitors of all time) could be squeezing each others hands in the most manly handshake ever and not achieve the same result. It doesn't mean they were generating less overall force than I was. The two interactions are not analogous at all and hence no reasonable conclusion can be draw.

In the case of the thanos feat vs hulk feat, both interactions can be compared directly regarding the force they generated as the destruction of the planet is a mutual indicator of force shared by both feats. What makes hulks feat more impressive in terms of planetary destruction , is that while both generated enough force to destroy the planet, hulks happened miles in the air and thus the force from the actual collision which acted on the planet would have dissipated exponentially and at a far far greater rate than it would have in the thanos instance. Plus the herald melting and all that other stuff..

Naija boy
^yeah That stuff is the more impressive part actually and definitively separates the two feats..I was just sticking to strictly the planetary destruction aspect since that is what they share in common.

abhilegend
Originally posted by zopzop
Drax did more than one shot a planetoid :
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/drax/draxplanetbusting.jpg

Drax and Thanos' fight wrecked a "living" planet. Living Planets need sufficient gravity to have a thick atmosphere to support life which means it's a good sized world:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/2264667-iron_man_055_16.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/2264668-iron_man_055_17.jpg

Drax tore apart a star. Stars >planets in size :
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499/814552-star2_super.jpg

That's the guy that couldn't hang H2H vs PRE DEATH UPGRADE Thanos.

Thanos wins.
Captain Mar-vell knocked out drax in the very same issue where he busted that star and that planetoid. Also drax conceded to she-hulk as being too strong for him and Thor shrugged him off alongwith Iron man trying to restrain him. TBF drax wasn't even a class 100. That's why space cheese is irrelevent.

TheHulk
Originally posted by abhilegend
Captain Mar-vell knocked out drax in the very same issue where he busted that star and that planetoid. Also drax conceded to she-hulk as being too strong for him and Thor shrugged him off alongwith Iron man trying to restrain him. TBF drax wasn't even a class 100. That's why space cheese is irrelevent. For once Abhi gets a 100% thumb up from me.

TheHulk
Originally posted by Naija boy
^yeah That stuff is the more impressive part actually and definitively separates the two feats..I was just sticking to strictly the planetary destruction aspect since that is what they share in common. Yep since Zopzop and Diesal game is about planetary destruction...

Horrificus
RSH has zero chance. Placing her above these uber-cosmics is nuts!

TheHulk
Originally posted by Horrificus
RSH has zero chance. Placing her above these uber-cosmics is nuts! Uber Cosmic Characters like Thanos are at Trans lvl lol WBH is High Trans lvl What the f**k? And WBRSH is equal to WBH erm

carver9
Originally posted by zopzop
Drax did more than one shot a planetoid :
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/drax/draxplanetbusting.jpg

Drax and Thanos' fight wrecked a "living" planet. Living Planets need sufficient gravity to have a thick atmosphere to support life which means it's a good sized world:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/2264667-iron_man_055_16.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/2264668-iron_man_055_17.jpg

Drax tore apart a star. Stars >planets in size :
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499/814552-star2_super.jpg

That's the guy that couldn't hang H2H vs PRE DEATH UPGRADE Thanos.

Thanos wins.

Lol...Professor Hulk fought this same Drax to a stalemate.

carver9
Originally posted by Diesldude
I think thanos and drax feat was greater.

On a much smaller scale, You can blow out a candle by clapping your hands near it but you can't with a handshake.

Half of the planet was still there after the planet destruction.

TheHulk
Originally posted by carver9
Half of the planet was still there after the planet destruction. That's debatable the planet looked like it was in the middle of exploding that is why we see half the planet still intact.

carver9
Originally posted by TheHulk
That's debatable the planet looked like it was in the middle of exploding that is why we see half the planet still intact.

Be quiet and stop following me and bringing up my name.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Professor Hulk fought this same Drax to a stalemate.
Not this drax carv. Merged hulk fought Drax with PG to a stalemate. Savage hulk did too.

TheHulk
Originally posted by carver9
Be quiet and stop following me and bringing up my name.

1.I created this thread you fool.

2.Hell I posted before you did.

3.Everyone mentions your name,in fact be happy I'm prob one of those few who don't call you Carter miffed

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not this drax carv. Merged hulk fought Drax with PG to a stalemate. Savage hulk did too.


Aaahhh, he did have the power gem when they fought in the city. I can't remember Savage Hulk fighting PG Drax.

zopzop
Originally posted by abhilegend
Captain Mar-vell knocked out drax in the very same issue where he busted that star and that planetoid. Also drax conceded to she-hulk as being too strong for him and Thor shrugged him off alongwith Iron man trying to restrain him. TBF drax wasn't even a class 100. That's why space cheese is irrelevent.
That's cute and all, but that's what makes the Hulk/RShe Hulk AoE irrelevant. So where does that leave us? The "Herald Melting" 'power' of Hulk/RShe Hulk's showdown.

The "heralds" that were melted by the AoE attack, which is what Naija Boy is playing up, were F-list losers.

Thanos has killed HIGH HERALDS like the Surfer with 7 punches.

Thanos wins this.

Rage.Of.Olympus
She-Hulk.

753
Originally posted by zopzop
That's cute and all, but that's what makes the Hulk/RShe Hulk AoE irrelevant. So where does that leave us? The "Herald Melting" 'power' of Hulk/RShe Hulk's showdown.

The "heralds" that were melted by the AoE attack, which is what Naija Boy is playing up, were F-list losers.

Thanos has killed HIGH HERALDS like the Surfer with 7 punches.

Thanos wins this. considering all their amps and everything shown in the comic, they were plenty powerful. thanos clearly worked a lot more to kill SS than the hulks to vaporize those folks

Naija boy
Originally posted by zopzop
That's cute and all, but that's what makes the Hulk/RShe Hulk AoE irrelevant. So where does that leave us? The "Herald Melting" 'power' of Hulk/RShe Hulk's showdown.

The "heralds" that were melted by the AoE attack, which is what Naija Boy is playing up, were F-list losers.

Thanos has killed HIGH HERALDS like the Surfer with 7 punches.

Thanos wins this.

Being f list in terms of popularity has no bearings on ability. Wendigo and Bi beast have historically been peers of savage hulk. Armcheddon was shown to be above them, as he was able to take several blows from a holding back World breaker (who was at the time shaking the west coast with steps) and still retain consciousness. Not too mention in terms of general portrayal, he was portrayed as soundly above professor hulk (able to easily put hm down with blasts) and seemingly a match for surfer in energy manipulation. The combined force of mindless ones was specifically mentioned as being too much for Umar to survive. These characters were all melted/disintegrated from the residual shockwave of a collision happening miles in the air. That necessitates that the amount of force actually within the epicenter of the collision is several several orders of magnitude greater than the shockwave that did all that (several zeros)

Honestly, even if I was absurdly generous and said that on average it takes 10x more force to kill surfer than it does to completely disintegrate Armcheddon, Wendigo , bi beast, an heavily amped ....and the combined army of mindless ones that was too much for even Umar to all put down, The fact remains that the actual collision between hulk and Betty contained astronomically more force than the shockwave ,far far in excess of 10x.

With Betty providing even a quarter of that gargantuan amount of force it'd still be more physically impressive than thanos feat of killing surfer in seven punches...by a hefty margin. Regardless of how you slice it.

zopzop
Originally posted by 753
considering all their amps and everything shown in the comic, they were plenty powerful. thanos clearly worked a lot more to kill SS than the hulks to vaporize those folks
Uhm, you had TWO enraged hulks going at it.

Thanos killed Surfer while smiling all the way.

zopzop
Originally posted by Naija boy
Being f list in terms of popularity has no bearings on ability. Wendigo and bast have historically been peers of savage hulk. Armcheddon was shown to be above them, as he was able to take several blows from a holding back world breaker and still retain consciousness. Not too mention in terms of general portrayal, he was portrayed as soundly above professor hulk (able to easily put hm down with blasts) and seemingly a match for surfer in energy manipulation. The combd force of mindless ones was specifically mentioned as being too much for Umar to survive. These characters were all melted/disintegrated from the residual shockwave of a collision happening miles in the air. That necessitates that the amount of force actually within the epicenter of the collision is several several orders of magnitude greater than the shockwave that did all that (several zeros)

Honestly, even if I was absurdly generous and said that on average it takes 10x more force to kill surfer than it does to completely disintegrate Armcheddon, Wendigo , bi beast, an heavily amped ....and the combined army of mindless ones that was too much for even Umar to all put down, The fact remains that the actual collision between hulk and Betty contained astronomically more force than the shockwave ,far far in excess of 10x.

So it beats thanos feat of killing surfer regardless of how you slice...by a hefty margin.
Yeah and Wendigos have been killed by Saberetooth. So........

Umar isn't a good gauge of power. She went from being the respected AND FEARED sister of Dormammu to high class succubus whore.

Thanos wins.

Naija boy
The Wendigo that hulk fought was one that remembered him and so one he had encountered before. All of whom have shown to be good physical matchups for him. It was not just a random Wendigo. The spell afterall brought back hulks previous enemies. Furthermore, this is before getting to bi beast, Armcheddon etc.

Also your disparaging description of Umar notwithstanding, there is nothing at all indicative of her being downgraded and so she is a very effective gauge of power. Just because she has character traits that you find deplorable is not enough reason to discount what is clearly portrayed on panel by the writer...seriously

zopzop
Originally posted by Naija boy
The Wendigo that hulk fought was one that remembered him and so one he had encountered before. All of whom have shown to be good physical matchups for him. It was not just a random Wendigo. The spell afterall brought back hulks previous enemies. Furthermore, this is before getting to bi beast, Armcheddon etc.

Also your disparaging description of Umar notwithstanding, there is nothing at all indicative of her being downgraded and so she is a very effective gauge of power. Just because she has character traits that you find deplorable is not enough reason to discount what is clearly portrayed on panel by the writer...seriously
Oh yes there is. Her classic years had her putting the fear of God into Strange and the AO.

She held back the MOs and reinforced the barrier setup by Dormammu binding them all by herself, something Clea said no one but Dormammu could do.

She's nothing but a high class succubus now.

Thanos wins.

carver9
Originally posted by zopzop
That's cute and all, but that's what makes the Hulk/RShe Hulk AoE irrelevant. So where does that leave us? The "Herald Melting" 'power' of Hulk/RShe Hulk's showdown.

The "heralds" that were melted by the AoE attack, which is what Naija Boy is playing up, were F-list losers.

Thanos has killed HIGH HERALDS like the Surfer with 7 punches.

Thanos wins this.

Even though Thanos could repeat what he did on Surfer to Morg. Morg and Thanos had a prolong fight physically.

Naija boy
As expected.So yeah no substantive evidence her being downgraded as none exists. Just character bashing and reiterating your initial stance.

She hulk wins. smile

mighty adam
Originally posted by zopzop
Oh yes there is. Her classic years had her putting the fear of God into Strange and the AO.

She held back the MOs and reinforced the barrier setup by Dormammu binding them all by herself, something Clea said no one but Dormammu could do.

She's nothing but a high class succubus now.

Thanos wins. agreed but it won't be easy for thanos in a fist fight. Still he mite be able to edge out a victory.

753
Originally posted by zopzop
Uhm, you had TWO enraged hulks going at it.

Thanos killed Surfer while smiling all the way. their mid air collision did the damage. it's still a lot more impressive than thanos's performance against surfer.

a88378438

-Pr-
She-Rulk wins, imo.

abhilegend
Originally posted by zopzop
That's cute and all, but that's what makes the Hulk/RShe Hulk AoE irrelevant. So where does that leave us? The "Herald Melting" 'power' of Hulk/RShe Hulk's showdown.

The "heralds" that were melted by the AoE attack, which is what Naija Boy is playing up, were F-list losers.

Thanos has killed HIGH HERALDS like the Surfer with 7 punches.

Thanos wins this.
It doesn't as that feat isn't impressive because of planet busting. Its impressive because it dis-integrated several of hulk's past peers.

7 punches and a huge sucker-shot you mean?

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_21_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_22_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_23_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_24_Image_0001.jpg

Certainly not that impressive.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Aaahhh, he did have the power gem when they fought in the city. I can't remember Savage Hulk fighting PG Drax.
That was dumb drax. Hulk never fought this version of drax. Also savage fough drax in secret defenders 24.

a88378438
Originally posted by abhilegend
That was dumb drax. Hulk never fought this version of drax. Also savage fough drax in secret defenders 24.
Bro,in your point,Wbh hulk or Pre-52 superman who stronger?or new 52 superman?sbp?

Damborgson
Originally posted by abhilegend
It doesn't as that feat isn't impressive because of planet busting. Its impressive because it dis-integrated several of hulk's past peers.

7 punches and a huge sucker-shot you mean?

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_21_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_22_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_23_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_24_Image_0001.jpg

Certainly not that impressive.

The striking wasn't as impressive as the way he just raised his arm and blocked the point black PC blast.

Horrificus
Originally posted by zopzop
That's cute and all, but that's what makes the Hulk/RShe Hulk AoE irrelevant. So where does that leave us? The "Herald Melting" 'power' of Hulk/RShe Hulk's showdown.

The "heralds" that were melted by the AoE attack, which is what Naija Boy is playing up, were F-list losers.

Thanos has killed HIGH HERALDS like the Surfer with 7 punches.

Thanos wins this. Welcome, welcome, to project: "Gamma Shadow". Have a seat and let's talk. big grin

I knew you would eventually step over the line, to MY world! roll eyes (sarcastic)

You have made Powerful enemies this day.

Well, maybe not Powerful, but Dangerous.

OK, maybe not all that Dangerous, but Intelligent.

OK, they aren't Intelligent at all, but they are now your enemies.



They will spread lies and confusion amongst your peers as they secretly dream of large, green buttocks.

But, they are weak and they can be defeated. Here is what we shall do...















laughing

Diesldude
Originally posted by Naija boy
Well to put it bluntly, Your analogy completely fails because a candle going out is not an accurate indicator of level of force. A clap by virtue of the movement of the open palms through the air, pushes air in the direction of the candle thereby blowing it out. The candles goes out because the air pushes the heat away from the candle thereby reducing it to below ignition temperature and putting out the flame..That has to do with the surface area of the hands and the proper angle to get the air to move in the proper direction. Conversely, a handshake is a continuous application of force between two objects (hands). The disturbance in the air created by the clap is not created by the handshake by virtue of the nature of the interaction, that does not necessarily mean less force was applied.

The thing you don't understand is that I never said that Thanos and drax applied lesser force. On the contrary, they applied greater force than that which was applied by Hulk and Betty colliding by just grappling.




It's easier to create greater disturbance, by colliding objects than by grappling. Hence, Clap and handshake analogy. A thunder clap, or 2 bodies colliding against each other causes disturbance by air and sound.

Now consider how much force must be applied to grappling in order to cause the same amount of disturbance and collateral damage.


I'll use your "light" clap and strong man example, no matter how lightly you clap you will create a greater disturbance than 2 strongmen grappling.

Now think about it, how much force the strongmen need to apply in order for them to do what you did with a clap by just grappling. That's what Thanos and Drax did.

In essence, hulk and Betty clapped (collided) to blow out a planet and Thanos and drax clenched their fist (grappled) to do the same.


So thanos and drax displayed more strength and force than WBH and Betty in their respective feats.

a88378438
Originally posted by Diesldude
The thing you don't understand is that I never said that Thanos and drax applied lesser force. On the contrary, they applied greater force than that created by Hulk and Betty colliding by just grappling.




It's easier to create greater disturbance, by colliding objects than by grappling. Hence, Clap and handshake analogy. A thunder clap, or 2 bodies colliding against each other causes disturbance by air and sound.

Now consider how much force must be applied to grappling in order to cause the same amount of disturbance and collateral damage.


I'll use your "light" clap and strong man example, no matter how lightly you clap you will create a greater disturbance than 2 strongmen grappling.

Now think about it, how much force the strongmen need to apply in order for them to do what you did with a clap by just grappling. That's what Thanos and Drax did.

In essence, hulk and Betty clapped (collided) to blow out a planet and Thanos and drax clenched their fist (grappled) to do the same.


So thanos and drax displayed more strength and force than WBH and Betty in their respective feats.
The planet destroyed itself. Thanos and Drax just created an instability to cause the chain reaction.Read the panel carefully and you will see their grappling cause the ebbs and flow to be out of balance. This caused an instability in the planet which in turn caused the planet to destroy itself.
Thanos and Drax didn't destroy the planet directly (as in supply all of the power) but rather they just started an irreversible chain reaction that ultimately lead to the planet's demise.
back the thread,Hulk and Betty did it with both kinetic energy and gamma energy. Thus it wasn't all strength,so...

Diesldude
edit.

Naija boy
Originally posted by Diesldude
The thing you don't understand is that I never said that Thanos and drax applied lesser force. On the contrary, they applied greater force than that created by Hulk and Betty colliding by just grappling.




It's easier to create greater disturbance, by colliding objects than by grappling. Hence, Clap and handshake analogy. A thunder clap, or 2 bodies colliding against each other causes disturbance by air and sound.

Now consider how much force must be applied to grappling in order to cause the same amount of disturbance and collateral damage.


I'll use your "light" clap and strong man example, no matter how lightly you clap you will create a greater disturbance than 2 strongmen grappling.

Now think about it, how much force the strongmen need to apply in order for them to do what you did with a clap by just grappling. That's what Thanos and Drax did.

In essence, hulk and Betty clapped (collided) to blow out a planet and Thanos and drax clenched their fist (grappled) to do the same.


So thanos and drax displayed more strength and force than WBH and Betty in their respective feats.

I understand fully well. Ill break it down. The issue remains that the analogy is indisputably terrible from the get go. I know you never said thanos and Drax applied lesser force. The main point is that a candle being blown out is NOT an accurate mutual indicator of force when comparing a handshake and a clap and thus invalidates the whole analogy. A candle being blown out as I said has to do with air pushing away the heat from the flame when the clap is done at the right angle and less to do with amount of force used than the method in which it is applied (through a swift clap as opposed to continuous grapple). The method of force application in this case is what is significant as it is the type/nature of disturbance created, ( air) that induces the gaseous reaction that puts the flame out in the case of the clap, and the lack of that same type of disturbance that prevents the flame from going out in the case of the handshake. Hence the flame being blown out is not a phenomenon that you can use to do a comparison regarding the amount force applied in the handshake vs that applied in a clap Rather a better example would be seeing what could actually damage the candle itself, as that would actually involve causing an object (the candle) to undergo change or deform and where we would actually be able to guage the amount of force in the two respective incidents.

Similarly, In the part of my post you didnt quote, i mentioned how an accurate mutual indicator of the amount force was the damage done to the planets. Now while rapid collisions, do create disturbances in air and sound, its irrelevant as whether or not the planet gets deformed/damaged in one instance vs another is directly dependent on the amount of force applied and total area of application irrespective of the method through which it is applied . Hence whether it be through the air or soundwaves it is irrelevant as the important thing is the actual amount of force acting on the planet divided by the area on which it is acting. Now, in this scenario, we dont know the respective sizes of the planets, but for the sake of argument and comparison I will assume they were exactly the same. With area of application equalized, the only relevant point of difference will be force applied.

Now the fact that Hulks feat took place miles in the air with no contact with the ground means that After acting on Hulk and Betty, who are the two initial objects the force acts upon, the force had to travel through the air in a huge area of outward radiation (inefficient) before reaching the characters involved as well as the planets surface. However, because it was a collision that happened in midair, the force contained in that outwardly radiating shockwave would have dissipated exponentially when it finally does make contact with the planet and thus be astronomically less than what was actually in the first collision. Conversely, Thanos and drax were on the ground already, and the nature of their interaction (a continuous grapple) also means that the forces area of outward radiation would be far smaller. This means that by the time the force from their grapple acts on the planet it would have dissipated far far far far less than in the case of Hulk and Betty as the force application is more efficient AND the distance it travells is far far less.

Ergo, and in simpler terms, Hulks feat is definitively and considerably more impressive.

Diesldude
^^
Ok is it easier to blow out a candle by clapping near it or by holding someone's hand and squeezing with all your might?

a88378438
Originally posted by Naija boy
I understand fully well. Ill break it down. The issue remains that the analogy is indisputably terrible from the get go. I know you never said thanos and Drax applied lesser force. The main point is that a candle being blown out is NOT an accurate mutual indicator of force when comparing a handshake and a clap and thus invalidates the whole analogy. A candle being blown out as I said has to do with air pushing away the heat from the flame when the clap is done at the right angle and less to do with amount of force used than the method in which it is applied (through a swift clap as opposed to continuous grapple). The method of force application in this case is what is significant as it is the type/nature of disturbance created, ( air) that induces the gaseous reaction that puts the flame out in the case of the clap, and the lack of that same type of disturbance that prevents the flame from going out in the case of the handshake. Hence the flame being blown out is not a phenomenon that you can use to do a comparison regarding the amount force applied in the handshake vs that applied in a clap Rather a better example would be seeing what could actually damage the candle itself, as that would actually involve causing an object (the candle) to undergo change or deform and where we would actually be able to guage the amount of force in the two respective incidents.

Similarly, In the part of my post you didnt quote, i mentioned how an accurate mutual indicator of the amount force was the damage done to the planets. Now while rapid collisions, do create disturbances in air and sound, its irrelevant as whether or not the planet gets deformed/damaged in one instance vs another is directly dependent on the amount of force applied and total area of application irrespective of the method through which it is applied . Hence whether it be through the air or soundwaves it is irrelevant as the important thing is the actual amount of force acting on the planet divided by the area on which it is acting. Now, in this scenario, we dont know the respective sizes of the planets, but for the sake of argument and comparison I will assume they were exactly the same. With area of application equalized, the only relevant point of difference will be force applied.

Now the fact that Hulks feat took place miles in the air with no contact with the ground means that After acting on Hulk and Betty, who are the two initial objects the force acts upon, the force had to travel through the air in a huge area of outward radiation (inefficient) before reaching the characters involved as well as the planets surface. However, because it was a collision that happened in midair, the force contained in that outwardly radiating shockwave would have dissipated exponentially when it finally does make contact with the planet and thus be astronomically less than what was actually in the first collision. Conversely, Thanos and drax were on the ground already, and the nature of their interaction (a continuous grapple) also means that the forces area of outward radiation would be far smaller. This means that by the time the force from their grapple acts on the planet it would have dissipated far far far far less than in the case of Hulk and Betty as the force application is more efficient AND the distance it travells is far far less.

Ergo, and in simpler terms, Hulks feat is definitively and considerably more impressive.
I agree hulk fight with red she hulk was more impressive,but they are not just muscle strength to destroy planet,they are has a lot of the energy,more like energy help them destroy planet

zopzop
Originally posted by abhilegend
It doesn't as that feat isn't impressive because of planet busting. Its impressive because it dis-integrated several of hulk's past peers.

7 punches and a huge sucker-shot you mean?

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_21_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_22_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_23_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_24_Image_0001.jpg

Certainly not that impressive.
I'm aware of those scans.

And that was some sucker shot. The Surfer instantly recovered and went on the offensive only to be casually beaten to death.

Thanos wins.

abhilegend
Originally posted by zopzop
I'm aware of those scans.

And that was some sucker shot. The Surfer instantly recovered and went on the offensive only to be casually beaten to death.

Thanos wins.
Admittedly not.

So? He still sucker-shotted surfer. Killing surfer with 7 shots and a huge sucker attacks isn't impressive like vaporizing three top tiers via indirect means.

He certainly doesn't wins here.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, Thor could have replicated Thanos' feat (With Mjolnir).

I don't know how that's even comparable to what Hulk and She-Hulk accomplished in the Dark Dimension.

zopzop
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, Thor could have replicated Thanos' feat (With Mjolnir).

I don't know how that's even comparable to what Hulk and She-Hulk accomplished in the Dark Dimension.
Yeah, but Thanos did it with his FISTS.

See the difference?

Naija boy
Originally posted by Diesldude
^^
Ok is it easier to blow out a candle by clapping near it or by holding someone's hand and squeezing with all your might?

Go and reread the posT and make an effort to grasp the concepts therein. It contains a detailed explanation regarding the faultiness,irrelevance and futility of the reasoning behind this line of questioning and the use this whole candle analogy in the first place. It is misplaced and based off of a lack of understanding of basic physical concepts and interactions. It does not matter whether it easier or harder to blow out a candle by squeezing yur hands or by clapping near it because blowing out a candle is not dependent on the amount of force used in one vs the other. Rather it relates to the method of force application and type of disturbance created. In a case where we are talking about damage to the planet however, amount of force applied and total area of application are what's important. Hence your candle example is absolutely inapplicable and not in the slightest capacity analogous to the sitaution at hand which involves environmental damage/ planetary deformation. That's the simplest way I can
put it and nothing more needs to be said. smile

Horrificus
Originally posted by Naija boy
Go and reread the posT and make an effort to grasp the concepts therein. It contains a detailed explanation regarding the faultiness,irrelevance and futility of the reasoning behind this line of questioning and the use this whole candle analogy in the first place. It is misplaced and based off of a lack of understanding of basic physical concepts and interactions. It does not matter whether it easier or harder to blow out a candle by squeezing yur hands or by clapping near it because blowing out a candle is not dependent on the amount of force used in one vs the other. Rather it relates to the method of force application and type of disturbance created. In a case where we are talking about damage to the planet however, amount of force applied and total area of application are what's important. Hence your candle example is absolutely inapplicable and not in the slightest capacity analogous to the sitaution at hand which involves environmental damage/ planetary deformation. That's the simplest way I can
put it and nothing more needs to be said. smile um... Oh Yeah?! confused

Horrificus
The Nature of the Dark Dimension-



Dr. Strange- "The laws of reality you know are altered or negated here!"

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/ArealSTUPIguy/th_DrStrangeSorcerersupre50-11_zpsa7e514d2.jpg



Silver Surfer- "The matter of this dimension would seem to be more fragile than that with which we are accustomed."

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/ArealSTUPIguy/th_DrStrangeSorcerersupre50-11_zpsa7e514d2.jpg

TheHulk
Originally posted by Horrificus
The Nature of the Dark Dimension-



Dr. Strange- "The laws of reality you know are altered or negated here!"

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/ArealSTUPIguy/th_DrStrangeSorcerersupre50-11_zpsa7e514d2.jpg



Silver Surfer- "The matter of this dimension would seem to be more fragile than that with which we are accustomed."

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/ArealSTUPIguy/th_DrStrangeSorcerersupre50-11_zpsa7e514d2.jpg yes I seen this before....but ironically the high heralds melt but the pieces of rock in the dark dimension don't eek!

Damborgson
Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah, but Thanos did it with his FISTS.

See the difference?

how does that change anything? All it would mean is that Thanos can't hit harder with his fists than a high herald can with his weapon.

The feat isn't that special as far as striking. That the surfer is a non factor to him is special, but killing with 7 amped blows and a massive cheap shot isn't something impossible from another high herald.

Horrificus
Originally posted by TheHulk
yes I seen this before....but ironically the high heralds melt but the pieces of rock in the dark dimension don't eek!

"Stupid Dark Dimension!"
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/ArealSTUPIguy/HomerSimpson2_zps3fde0e95.gif

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Diesldude
why not, the hulk & Betty collision made a shock wave, thanos and drax were in a mercy contest and the planet started to crumble. hulk and betty would be the combined size of a hydrogen molecule for your analogy to make any sense. That molecule sized duo then claps hoping to blow out the flame smile

Diesldude
Originally posted by Naija boy
Go and reread the posT and make an effort to grasp the concepts therein. It contains a detailed explanation regarding the faultiness,irrelevance and futility of the reasoning behind this line of questioning and the use this whole candle analogy in the first place. It is misplaced and based off of a lack of understanding of basic physical concepts and interactions. It does not matter whether it easier or harder to blow out a candle by squeezing yur hands or by clapping near it because blowing out a candle is not dependent on the amount of force used in one vs the other. Rather it relates to the method of force application and type of disturbance created. In a case where we are talking about damage to the planet however, amount of force applied and total area of application are what's important. Hence your candle example is absolutely inapplicable and not in the slightest capacity analogous to the sitaution at hand which involves environmental damage/ planetary deformation. That's the simplest way I can
put it and nothing more needs to be said. smile You know you ain't as smart as you pretend to be or you're just refusing to accept that you made a mistake. Of course a handshake, grappling, folded fist is not going to cause a disturbance similar to a clap, if at all. But in comics it did cause a disturbance when thanos and drax grappled, that disturbance was enough to destroy the planet. Creating that disturbance required more strenght than what hulk and betty used to perform their feat. Now, you can bring all the real world science or use as many fancy words as you like but the fact of the matter is that grappling created enough disturbance to destroy the planet. There is no point to argue here, I know you won't have any rest until you get the last word so spin whatever you want to make yourself sleep easier. You can take another route to make a case for hulk by explaining what really happened between thanos and drax, but you won't do that either because that will lower your boy thano's feat. I'm done with with this argument. Good day smile

Diesldude
Originally posted by TheHulk
yes I seen this before....but ironically the high heralds melt but the pieces of rock in the dark dimension don't eek!

So you read my apology?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=577785&pagenumber=5

Raisen
Originally posted by Damborgson
how does that change anything? All it would mean is that Thanos can't hit harder with his fists than a high herald can with his weapon.

The feat isn't that special as far as striking. That the surfer is a non factor to him is special, but killing with 7 amped blows and a massive cheap shot isn't something impossible from another high herald.

It makes a big difference. Are you really saying it doesn't? My six year old niece can do major damage with a hammer but I'd smash her in a fist fight. She already learned her lesson.................. evil face

Naija boy
Originally posted by Diesldude
You know you ain't as smart as you pretend to be or you're just refusing to accept that you made a mistake. Of course a handshake, grappling, folded fist is not going to cause a disturbance similar to a clap, if at all. But in comics it did cause a disturbance when thanos and drax grappled, that disturbance was enough to destroy the planet. Creating that disturbance required more strenght than what hulk and betty used to perform their feat. Now, you can bring all the real world science or use as many fancy words as you like but the fact of the matter is that grappling created enough disturbance to destroy the planet. There is no point to argue here, I know you won't have any rest until you get the last word so spin whatever you want to make yourself sleep easier. You can take another route to make a case for hulk by explaining what really happened between thanos and drax, but you won't do that either because that will lower your boy thano's feat. I'm done with with this argument. Good day smile


erm What a display of whiny weakminded projection. Im sorry you feel intimidated by my "fancy" words and use of sound logical principles but your lack of basic understanding of physical concepts like force is nobodies fault but your own. If you would let go of your penchant to defend your obvious ignorance, you might actually learn something. Instead, you are attempting to argue past the actual substantive issue at hand in order to save face while still holding on to your initial unsupported assertion which has already been categorically disproven. Its laughably transparent.

You claim that what drax and Thanos did required more strength than what Hulk and Betty did and when challenged utilized a scientifically nonsensical analogy which you didnt have a hope of defending. I painstakingly explained to you why the analogy was entirely inapplicable and you couldnt even muster a coherent rebuttal. Now your re-enforcing your already embarassing obliviousness by making even more idiotically ignorant assertations about "disturbances" while blatantly trying your best to disassociate the analysis of these two feats from the real issue of importance: the relative amount of force required. There is no point to argue at all and simply accepting that your analogy was misplaced would not take anything away from you. Sheesh, Is discrediting the hulk at the expense of rationality really that exhilarating?

And My boy Thanos?, despite the fact that im defending She rulk in this thread? . The "fancy" words I use must really have you bewildered. My apologies once again, didnt mean to overwhelm your tender illiterate sensibilities. facepalm

psycho gundam
it's simple: indirect kinetic energy from a single mid-air impact causing a planetary explosion vs a struggle on the planet's surface that caused a planetary explosion after causing a chain reaction.

insane feats of power, but one is clearly greater

then, you factor in that each punch traded from hulk/betty causes very similar output

strange stopped time after the initial clash, he's apparently safe cause of his 'ego shifting' ghost or whatever, but the duo are hitting each other re-vaporizing everything:

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/during_time_stop1.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/during_time_stop2.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/during_time_stop3.jpg

Diesldude
Originally posted by Naija boy
erm What a display of whiny weakminded projection. Im sorry you feel intimidated by my "fancy" words and use of sound logical principles but your lack of basic understanding of physical concepts like force is nobodies fault but your own. If you would let go of your penchant to defend your obvious ignorance, you might actually learn something. Instead, you are attempting to argue past the actual substantive issue at hand in order to save face while still holding on to your initial unsupported assertion which has already been categorically disproven. Its laughably transparent.

You claim that what drax and Thanos did required more strength than what Hulk and Betty did and when challenged utilized a scientifically nonsensical analogy which you didnt have a hope of defending. I painstakingly explained to you why the analogy was entirely inapplicable and you couldnt even muster a coherent rebuttal. Now your re-enforcing your already embarassing obliviousness by making even more idiotically ignorant assertations about "disturbances" while blatantly trying your best to disassociate the analysis of these two feats from the real issue of importance: the relative amount of force required. There is no point to argue at all and simply accepting that your analogy was misplaced would not take anything away from you. Sheesh, Is discrediting the hulk at the expense of rationality really that exhilarating?

And My boy Thanos?, despite the fact that im defending She rulk in this thread? . The "fancy" words I use must really have you bewildered. My apologies once again, didnt mean to overwhelm your tender illiterate sensibilities. facepalm


This pretentious verbiage diarrhea is nothing but foul excrement. sick This isn't anything new, you are known for this anal discharge because you're in a constant state of butt hurt. Your inability to comprehend simple analogies is profusely sad given your methodical pursuit to appear supremely intelligent. It's an obvious charade and frankly it's pathetic. I'm well acquainted with your penchant for personal attacks after losing an argument. It's a deplorable tactic but definitely expected from a pathetic little man and that's all you are. Apology not accepted nor required.

psycho gundam
notice dieseldude's improved vocabulary. naija boy nipple-twisted your soul thumb up

JakeTheBank
I think HoTM Hulk/Red She Hulk performed a greater feat than Thanos/Drax. Doesn't seem to be a hard distinction to make, imo.

Naija boy
.Originally posted by psycho gundam
notice dieseldude's improved vocabulary. naija boy nipple-twisted your soul thumb up
Apparently I must have lol, "fancy words" FTW


Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think HoTM Hulk/Red She Hulk performed a greater feat than Thanos/Drax. Doesn't seem to be a hard distinction to make, imo.

It isn't. Its very basic and inarguable. His reasoning for why thanos' is more impressive is adhoc, and contrary to both scientific principles and common sense. He can't muster an argument against this so he would rather ignore entire posts that deconstruct his "argument" and get into vocabulary pissing contests...lol

Diesldude
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think HoTM Hulk/Red She Hulk performed a greater feat than Thanos/Drax. Doesn't seem to be a hard distinction to make, imo. my point is that hulk and Betty collided, while drax and thanos squeezed each other's hands to accomplish planetary destruction.

Raisen
Someone please make this stop

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Diesldude
my point is that hulk and Betty collided, while drax and thanos squeezed each other's hands to accomplish planetary destruction.

I get that, and both feats are certainly impressive, but I'm not sure how Drax/Thanos' feat is more so than Hulk and Betty's. The collision not only caused planetary destruction, but the destruction of celestial bodies away from the initial impact. It was also a single burst of energy where as the grappling from Drax and Thanos built up to the point of causing planetary destruction. I suppose you could argue Hulk/Betty's feat being as much about energy projection - if not more so - than pure strength, but its a moot point per this thread.

Diesldude
Originally posted by psycho gundam
notice dieseldude's improved vocabulary. naija boy nipple-twisted your soul thumb up dude's posts are boring as hell, no humor whatsoever.
I doubt he speaks that way in person. No way he picks up guys/girls or whatever talking like that. It's all a game of make believe.

Raisen
Originally posted by Diesldude
dude's posts are boring as hell, no humor whatsoever.
I doubt he speaks that way in person. No way he picks up guys/girls or whatever talking like that. It's all a game of make believe.

most people don't write like they speak; doesn't mean you shouldn't write as intelligently as possible. it just isn't feasible with the spoken word. write intelligently as much as possible and you hold on to your vocabulary better.

zopzop
Originally posted by Diesldude
dude's posts are boring as hell, no humor whatsoever.
I doubt he speaks that way in person. No way he picks up guys/girls or whatever talking like that. It's all a game of make believe.
Even assuming this is true, he's been polite and there's no reason to unload on him.

Thanos still wins btw wink

Naija boy
Who knew that being articulate could induce such butthurt laughing out loud And do tell more about how well spoken people can't pick up girls..... facepalm

Foolishness aside, for the reasons already mentioned
She Rulk wins.

-Pr-
Guys, how about you actually stay on topic?

zopzop
Originally posted by Naija boy
Foolishness aside, for the reasons already mentioned
She Rulk wins.
Nope. Thanos all the way. Happy Dance

Raisen
it's a damn shame that moderators don't get paid. moderating this seems like it would be akin to herding a bunch of meth'ed out monkeys.

Horrificus
Originally posted by Horrificus
The Nature of the Dark Dimension-



Dr. Strange- "The laws of reality you know are altered or negated here!"

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/ArealSTUPIguy/th_DrStrangeSorcerersupre50-11_zpsa7e514d2.jpg



Silver Surfer- "The matter of this dimension would seem to be more fragile than that with which we are accustomed."

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/ArealSTUPIguy/th_DrStrangeSorcerersupre50-11_zpsa7e514d2.jpg If these statements are canon, how can a solid argument be made for the feats of Hulk and She Hulk in the Dark Dimension?

zopzop
Originally posted by Horrificus
If these statements are canon, how can a solid argument be made for the feats of Hulk and She Hulk in the Dark Dimension?
ROFLMAO. Owned!

Nice find Horri. I take back all the mean things I said about your taste in characters smile

Diesldude
Originally posted by Horrificus
If these statements are canon, how can a solid argument be made for the feats of Hulk and She Hulk in the Dark Dimension? honest question, so how weak were those amped by 1000x hulk villians and the mindless ones if they disintegrated before the rocks?

Thanos wins btw.

Horrificus
Originally posted by zopzop
ROFLMAO. Owned!

Nice find Horri. I take back all the mean things I said about your taste in characters smile Thanks, but it was actually Damborson's find. He saw what I had been arguing and put 2 and 2 together. I had seen these statements and others like it in the past, but could not remember where.

He dug them up. I'm just the "Idea Man". cool

Horrificus
Originally posted by Diesldude
honest question, so how weak were those amped by 1000x hulk villians and the mindless ones if they disintegrated before the rocks?

Thanos wins btw. if they disintegrated before the "more fragile" rocks. laughing


Not looking good.

Naija boy
Originally posted by Horrificus
If these statements are canon, how can a solid argument be made for the feats of Hulk and She Hulk in the Dark Dimension?

The nature of the dark dimension does not affect the power level of the characters destroyed which is self evident. Unless you are. Going to claim that the characters involved were somehow made weaker by the fact that they were in the dark dimension (which is unsupported) , then those scans do nothing to invalidate the most impressive part of the feat, which is characters destroyed. You know this and have been called on this before.

Additionally the dark dimension was portrayed as a run of the mill solid planetary body under pak as opposed to a combination of abstract dimensions with wonky space as it had previously been shown as. Additionally in regards to the fragility issue, the hulks also destroyed the realm of the mindless ones which has been mentioned as being actually denser than earth.

TheHulk
Originally posted by Naija boy
The nature of the dark dimension does not affect the power level of the characters destroyed which is self evident. Unless you are. Going to claim that the characters involved were somehow made weaker by the fact that they were in the dark dimension (which is unsupported) , then those scans do nothing to invalidate the most impressive part of the feat, which is characters destroyed. You know this and have been called on this before.

Additionally the dark dimension was portrayed as a run of the mill solid planetary body under pak as opposed to a combination of abstract dimensions with wonky space as it had previously been shown as. Additionally in regards to the fragility issue, the hulks also destroyed the realm of the mindless ones which has been mentioned as being actually denser than earth. Damn Naija you got a answer to everything.....

Stoic
We've seen Thanos defeated, albeit by himself. This took a lot of energy to accomplish. Did Betty have the power, to pull off something like that?

That's the real question here.

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